[00:44] <CarlenWhite> Getting some kernel panics related to memory. Hoping my memory isn't giving up the ghost.
[00:44] <CarlenWhite> Or best case something has a nasty bug.
[00:48] <CarlenWhite> https://termbin.com/qf06
[00:49] <CarlenWhite> journalctl -b -1 output, trimmed.
[00:49] <CarlenWhite> Oh, it's amdgpu
[00:50] <CarlenWhite> Well, now I know who to heckle.
[01:19] <sparr> 19.10 changes sudo to not preserve $HOME?
[01:19] <sparr> I can't find this mentioned anywhere, but am noticing the behavior change
[02:25] <donofrio> anyone know of a "ports" version of  19.04 for ppc?
[02:25] <donofrio> 20.04 I mean
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> 20.04 isnt out yet
[02:46] <OerHeks> 16.04.6 was the latest version that supports ppc
[04:21] <guiverc> donofrio, 20.04 = 2020.April which is still a long time away; ppc64el 19.04 can be obtained via http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/disco/main/installer-ppc64el/current/images/netboot/
[19:49] <nt0> re: "unstable and will probably break your computer [...]": is 19.10 in good enough shape at this point (two days from release, iirc) that i can expect to plink around on it in a VM without much trouble?  i tried a 19.10 daily very early on and it was borked.
[19:51] <tomreyn> "plink around on it" as in use ssh?
[19:52] <Faux> nt0: I'm surprised it was broken even at the start, but yeah, it's fine.
[19:53] <nt0> tomreyn: well i suppose i might, but what i meant was to use it for general computing without anything important going on.  i'm planning to set up a haskell dev vm on my laptop and would like to use ubuntu 19.10.
[19:53] <Faux> "plink around" means "mess around", not "run plink".
[19:53] <nt0> Faux: great, downloading now.
[19:53] <tomreyn> thanks Faux
[19:56] <tomreyn> nt0: i guess you should use the daily iso, not the beta, in case you're undecided there
[19:57] <dax> i.e. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[19:57] <nt0> tomreyn: aye.  that's what i chose.  i assume that it's "rolling" in the sense that it'll be sync'ed up with whatever ships on the 17th.
[19:58] <tomreyn> you can install updates and thus land on the same state as the release installer would put you, yes
[19:58] <tomreyn> not rolling as in a rolling linux distro, but i'm sure you're aware of this.
[19:59] <dax> !final
[19:59] <ubottu> If you install a development version of Ubuntu Eoan and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 19.10 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal.
[20:00] <dax> (full-upgrade being notable because it usually isn't needed once Ubuntu's released, but occasionally is during development, even this late in the game)
[20:06] <nt0> tomreyn: of course.  hence quotes and why i asked :D.  dax: i habitually do full-upgrade every few logins, so it sounds like i'm covered.  what would i use instead?  dist-upgrade?
[20:06] <dax> lots of people just do upgrade instead of full-upgrade
[20:07] <dax> assuming you're checking the package list and making sure it's doing something sane, full-upgrade is fine
[20:08] <nt0> ah, just read up on it.  sounds like the major (only?) difference between upgrade and full-upgrade is that full will remove packages if the maintainers have done so whereas upgrade will not
[20:53] <bittin_> https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/1030/jblive/ Review of Ubuntu 19.10 tonight
[21:21] <bittin_>  burning the iso with fixed sudo now :)
[21:44] <bittin_> Now there is 19.10 time in this weeks LUP