[06:09] <didrocks> good morning
[06:15] <jibel> Salut didrocks
[06:15] <jibel> hi all
[06:17] <didrocks> salut jibel
[06:37] <duflu> Salut didrocks, jibel
[06:39] <didrocks> hey duflu
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[07:29] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:29] <duflu> Morning seb128
[07:29] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[07:29] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:30] <duflu> seb128, sore... I think I need to change pillows, but otherwise good. You?
[07:30] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme aujourd'hui ?
[07:30] <oSoMoN> seb128, ça va, et toi?
[07:30] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:30] <seb128> duflu, I'm good, gnome hackfest day 1 was fun, I didn't come back too late which was smart since I had a proper night and feel good today :)
[07:30] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça va !
[07:37] <didrocks> salut seb128, oSoMoN
[07:37] <seb128> lut didrocks, en forme ?
[07:38] <didrocks> seb128: on fait aller, et toi ? :)
[07:38] <seb128> ça va bien !
[07:38] <didrocks> cool que la hackfest se passe bien
[07:38] <seb128> is the zfs/19.10 situation stabilizing or still new day, new reports/tweaks to do?
[07:38] <seb128> oui :)
[07:39] <didrocks> seb128: new things, but I think labelled under the "experimental" feedback we have, like swap zvol being slow
[07:39] <didrocks> which is exactly what we wanted to discover
[07:39] <didrocks> nothing critical for the release yet
[07:39] <seb128> great
[07:47] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:48] <jibel> actually there's been a low number of bugs. missing zfs utils in initramfs, readyness of the partition table and the perf of the swap on zvol
[07:49] <marcustomlinson> good morning didrocks jibel duflu seb128 oSoMoN
[07:50] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[07:50] <seb128> lut jibel, hey marcustomlinson, ca va/how are you today?
[07:51] <marcustomlinson> seb128: good thanks, just now getting over this cold thing. you?
[07:51] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson
[07:51] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm good, thanks :)
[07:53] <didrocks> seb128: guess what's broken before release?
[07:53] <didrocks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1848141
[07:54] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1848141 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No screen reader started with ctrl+alt+s nor in maybe-ubiquity or live session" [Undecided,New]
[07:54] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[07:57] <seb128> didrocks, if it's buggy in the live session then it's probably the reader itself because ubiquity isn't handling it there right?
[07:57] <seb128> or gnome-shell
[07:58] <didrocks> seb128: only the shortcut is broken
[07:58] <didrocks> I appended my task from isolinux
[07:58] <jibel> Salut seb128, ça va bien, release week is always exciting
[07:58] <jibel> hi marcustomlinson
[07:58] <didrocks> test*
[07:58] <seb128> jibel, indeed! you are going to London/there already?
[07:59] <didrocks> so yeah, only the shortcut/activation is broken, as mostly every cycles :p
[07:59] <jibel> no staying home for this release, I'll go for next prolly
[07:59] <seb128> keeping the energy for the LTS :)
[08:00] <seb128> didrocks, looking in the keybindings part from settings, the combo is alt-super-S and it works (at least on the live session)
[08:01] <didrocks> ah, we need to update the testcase, wasn't it used to be ctrl+alt+s forever?
[08:01] <seb128> I wonder if the default changed in GNOME
[08:02] <seb128> I would need to test on bionic/disco to be sure, I never remember that kind of things :/
[08:02] <didrocks> confirming that alt+super+S works
[08:02] <didrocks> yeah, same…
[08:02] <didrocks> if different, it should be release noted at least
[08:03] <seb128> ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py has
[08:03] <seb128>             elif (sr_profile_found is True and event.state &
[08:03] <seb128>                   Gdk.ModifierType.SUPER_MASK and
[08:03] <seb128>                     event.state & Gdk.ModifierType.MOD1_MASK and
[08:03] <seb128>                     event.keyval == Gdk.keyval_from_name('s')):
[08:03] <seb128>                 self.a11y_profile_screen_reader_activate()
[08:03] <seb128> so it seems ubiquity has the same combo in its code
[08:03] <seb128> so I guess it's wanted, unsure when it changed though
[08:05] <seb128> git blame has a change from Luke in 2016 and it was already super
[08:05] <didrocks> yeah, just saw that
[08:05] <seb128> so I guess it's not new, just our memory/documentation fail :)
[08:05] <didrocks> looks like nobody updated the test case :p
[08:05] <didrocks> yeah
[08:05] <didrocks> "good" I think ;)
[08:05] <seb128> thx for testing that part btw
[08:05] <didrocks> no pb
[08:06] <didrocks> I'll delete the bug, just targetting one for doc
[08:06] <seb128> yeah, I'm surprised it works, as you said usually it's buggy every cycle :p
[08:06] <seb128> k
[08:06] <didrocks> indeed, let's look at the positive side, for once, it works :)
[08:18] <jibel> latest iso works surprisingly well for a tuesday on release week
[08:19] <didrocks> "something must be wrong"
[08:19] <jibel> yeah, we didn't test hard enough
[08:19] <jibel> ah, I've a crash of shim-singed
[08:19] <jibel> signed*
[08:22] <didrocks> ah, still a screen reader-related issue
[08:22] <didrocks> started on GDM after reboot
[08:22] <didrocks> not on user session
[08:25] <didrocks> (I still mark it as passed, but attached the bug and maybe worth some digging)
[08:27] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[08:29] <duflu> Morning Wimpress
[08:29] <didrocks> hey Wimpress
[08:32] <Wimpress> ZFS confirmed working in current RC by the Ubuntu MATE QA team last night 🙂
[08:32] <didrocks> yeah, saw that on the bug report, great
[08:33] <jibel> Wimpress, thanks
[08:33] <Wimpress> Nvidia is broken however.
[08:33] <Wimpress> I'm in Bluefin today and will run through a series of tests to figure out what is going on.
[08:34] <jibel> Wimpress really, I just tested it
[08:34] <jibel> Wimpress, what is broken?
[08:35] <duflu> ?
[08:35] <Wimpress> i386 nvidia drivers are not automatically installed.
[08:35] <Wimpress> So, installing Steam results in broken Steam.
[08:36] <Wimpress> Might only affect Ubuntu MATE, the reports are not clear.
[08:36] <duflu> It's still possible to get to eoan i386 via upgrades
[08:36] <duflu> With GNOME
[08:36] <Wimpress> So I am going to test Xubuntu, Ubuntu and Ubuntu 19.10 to see where it works/fails.
[08:37] <Wimpress> Yes, the i386 drivers still exist. But in past releases they were automatically installed.
[08:39] <jibel> 32bit drivers are not installed with 64bit which is different from the alarming comment nvidia is broken
[08:39] <jibel> Wimpress, when you say past does it include disco?
[08:39] <jibel> I've an iso there I can verify
[08:41] <seb128> wasn't that problem discussed here yesterday already?
[09:35] <Laney> greetings
[09:36] <didrocks> hey londoner Laney
[09:36] <Laney> bloody london
[09:36] <Laney> already almost walked into someone
[09:38] <duflu> It's a skill acquired by living in London or any big city
[09:38] <duflu> I assume
[09:39] <duflu> Morning Laney
[09:39] <oSoMoN> hi Laney
[09:54] <Laney> hey didrocks duflu oSoMoN
[09:57] <xnox> Laney: hello
[09:57] <Laney> hi
[10:10] <clobrano_> good morning everyone 0/
[10:11] <didrocks> hey clobrano_
[10:16] <clobrano_> hey didrocks, how are you?
[10:19] <seb128> hey Laney, good luck with the city and its people ;-)
[10:20] <didrocks> and you clobrano_? :)
[10:21] <seb128> hey clobrano_
[10:21] <clobrano_> I think I got a cold, but fine overall :)
[10:21] <clobrano_> hey seb128
[10:25] <Laney> hey seb128
[10:26] <Laney> hackfest good today?
[10:27] <seb128> I'll tell you in a bit, I had an appointement at 11:30 so I'm only going now (in the tram at the moment)
[10:27] <Laney> ah
[10:33] <Laney> so following up from yesterday, going to drop example-content if we respin (not otherwise, will be for F then)
[10:36] <seb128> ah, I though we would have another 'translation update' for ubiquity but looks like an export was included on friday so probably not
[10:36] <seb128> how are things looking from the London secret room? ;-)
[10:38] <Laney> nothing going on atm
[10:39] <Laney> usually means we find something tomorrow :>
[10:56] <jibel> hm, all the cases have been covered and no important bug, that's suspicious
[10:57] <jibel> beach time then ;)
[11:21] <jibel> my wifi connection fails to reestablish on resume from suspend and I've to restart the machine (restarting nm or network is not enough) Has anyone seen this on eoan?
[13:30] <seb128> ok, it's meeting time!
[13:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-10-15
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 15 13:30:57 2019 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), hellsworth, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:31] <marcustomlinson> o/
[13:31] <seb128> between rls week and hackfest unsure if everyone is around
[13:31] <kenvandine> o/
[13:32] <seb128> but let's started/see
[13:32] <didrocks> hey
[13:32] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
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[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> no desktop entry
[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:33] <seb128> no unassigned entry
[13:33] <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs
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[13:33] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:33] <seb128> bug #1831295
[13:33] <ubot5> bug 1831295 in firefox (Ubuntu Disco) "Firefox freeze when I drag an URL address to a Nautilus window under Wayland" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831295
[13:34] <seb128> oSoMoN, you nominated it without assignee bypassing the team workflow? ;)
[13:34] <oSoMoN> did I?
[13:34] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1831295/+activity suggests so
[13:34] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1831295 in firefox (Ubuntu Disco) "Firefox freeze when I drag an URL address to a Nautilus window under Wayland" [Undecided,New]
[13:35] <seb128> anyway
[13:35] <seb128> I would vote -1 for rls
[13:35] <oSoMoN> I added the tag
[13:35] <seb128> Disco is about to be non-current and is non-LTS
[13:35] <oSoMoN> anyway, I'm -1 for rls, too
[13:35] <kenvandine> -1
[13:35] <oSoMoN> it's affecting wayland/disco only
[13:35] <seb128> and it's wayland only
[13:35] <seb128> k
[13:35] <seb128> oSoMoN, I'm deleting the disco line then
[13:36] <seb128> and removing the tag
[13:36] <oSoMoN> thx
[13:36] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:37] <seb128> only that firefox one
[13:37] <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
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[13:37] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:37] <seb128> bug #1631161
[13:37] <ubot5> bug 1631161 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Preferred output device is not remembered between logins" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1631161
[13:38] <seb128> would be nice to see the user experience improved around this for the LTS
[13:38] <seb128> but I don't think it's rls material for e
[13:38] <seb128> I vote -1
[13:39] <didrocks> we couldn't spend time working on it for quite some cycles, so yeah, not rls material (not a regression anyway)
[13:39] <didrocks> so -1
[13:39] <Laney> wait
[13:39] <Laney> you sure this isn't a regression?
[13:39] <didrocks> (we have multiple similar cases, so maybe this one is)
[13:39] <didrocks> but it's been a couple of years pulseaudio audio sink automatic switch is broken at least
[13:40] <Laney> this sounds like every reboot comes up with the wrong output
[13:40] <Laney> I think that's a new one
[13:40] <seb128> Laney, the description states 'Tested not working in 16.04, 16.10 and Mint 18 (packages from 16.04).'
[13:40] <seb128> and the report is from 2016
[13:40] <seb128> Laney, do you think of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1847570 ?
[13:40] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1847570 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "PulseAudio automatically switches to HDMI sound output on login" [Medium,Triaged]
[13:41] <Laney> ah
[13:41] <Laney> I clicked that following Daniel's comment
[13:41] <Laney> that one should be the rls one imho
[13:41] <seb128> I would agree with that
[13:41] <seb128> let's review it as if it was tagged
[13:42] <seb128> I think I lean to +1 for that one as well
[13:42] <seb128> other opinions?
[13:43] <hellsworth> i'd say +1 because it's likely to be hit by many. so high ux
[13:43] <didrocks> my audio sink being broken for release stopped driving me mad :)
[13:43] <didrocks> releases*
[13:43] <didrocks> so unsure
[13:43] <didrocks> (I think we have a bigger task to tackle)
[13:43] <seb128> k, let's nominate and assign to Daniel, we can revisit depending of what he finds out
[13:43]  * Laney is +1
[13:43] <Laney> thx
[13:43] <didrocks> makes sense
[13:44] <seb128> k, next
[13:44] <seb128> bug #1847551
[13:44] <ubot5> bug 1847551 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Mutter 3.34.1 broke Night Light, screen color profiles" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847551
[13:44] <seb128> that's fixed upstream
[13:45] <seb128> and the title doesn't tell but it's wayland specific
[13:45] <seb128> well since it's fixed it's just a matter of getting .2 SRUed once available
[13:45] <seb128> so I vote -1 for rls
[13:45] <seb128> doesn't need special tracking and it's wayland only
[13:45] <didrocks> +1 on the -1 :p
[13:46] <seb128> k, let's do that
[13:46] <seb128> bug #1848156
[13:46] <ubot5> bug 1848156 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "Update gnome-terminal to 3.34.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848156
[13:46] <seb128> same class of issue, fixed upstream, wayland specific
[13:47] <seb128> I vote to untag and just SRU the .1
[13:47] <didrocks> yeah, sounds good for a day 0 SRU
[13:47] <seb128> does somebody want to do that SRU?
[13:47] <seb128> well if you want please assign yourself the bug
[13:47] <seb128> if you don't it might land later on someone's plate through managements' decision :)
[13:49] <seb128> next bug #1826040	
[13:49] <ubot5> bug 1826040 in example-content (Ubuntu) "examples.desktop file is not executable and only opens into default text editor(gedit)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1826040
[13:49] <seb128> Laney said he's going to handle it
[13:50] <seb128> it doesn't need to be rls tagged imho, no point SRUing it if we miss the release because it's a new install thing only
[13:50] <seb128> so I vote to untag it
[13:51] <oSoMoN> agreed-
[13:51] <seb128> thx, doing that
[13:51] <seb128> I tagged a bug that didn't get picked by the report yet
[13:51] <seb128> bug #1848202
[13:51] <ubot5> bug 1848202 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "Use after free in gdbus leads to eds segfaults" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848202
[13:51] <seb128> on my new installs testing, adding google account to goa often leads to eds segfaults
[13:52] <seb128> which seem to lead to that error/fix (I reported upstream on eds which was dupped from the glib fix)
[13:52] <seb128> it's also quite high on e.c.c reports, so I vote +1 for nominating/SRUing
[13:53] <marcustomlinson> fair enough
[13:54] <Laney> feel free to SRU it
[13:54] <Laney> I don't think we need to discuss bugs like this one which have a fix available already
[13:54] <Laney> imho snyesy
[13:54] <Laney> anyway* wtf
[13:55] <seb128> Laney, k, I was going to ask if you wanted to own that SRU but seems you just tried to bounce away
[13:55] <seb128> I will have a look
[13:55] <seb128> and I think that is for incoming ee bugs
[13:55] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:55] <Laney> haha
[13:55] <seb128> no unassigned bugs
[13:56] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
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[13:56] <Laney> EMPTYYYYYYYYYYYY
[13:56] <seb128> indeed, good work!
[13:57] <seb128> #topic AOB
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[13:57] <seb128> other topics?
[13:57] <didrocks> nothing for me
[13:57] <hellsworth> goals for testing before release?
[13:58] <hellsworth> or is it just test as much of all the things
[13:58] <Laney> you can assign that glib one to me if you want, just sounded like you were on it
[13:59] <seb128> Laney, I can backport that one fix but I was unsure if maybe you wanted also to look at fixing the dbg packages to work with valgrind since you were poking at that ... let's sync up on that after the meeting, no urgency
[14:00] <Laney> going to need doko for that one
[14:00] <seb128> jibel, ^ testing, do you know if anything specific is needed atm?
[14:00] <seb128> Laney, k
[14:01] <seb128> hellsworth, I guess jibel can reply later once he's back but I don't think there is any specific need at this poin, usually it's a good idea to try to cover things that got less testing from the iso tracker
[14:01] <seb128> any other topic?
[14:02] <hellsworth> you got it
[14:02] <seb128> k, seems no other topic
[14:02] <seb128> good efficient meeting, thanks team :)
[14:03] <seb128> reminder that if people could keep an eye on bugs reports in the days after release and help with triage that's always useful
[14:03] <seb128> and it's a wrap then
[14:03] <seb128> #endmeeting
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[14:03] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 15 14:03:15 2019 UTC.
[14:03] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-10-15-13.30.moin.txt
[14:03] <didrocks> thx
[14:04] <seb128> Laney, I didn't get much traction to pinging d_oko about the valgrind thing, can you maybe ask inf_inity if that's something he would be interested to poke at? could go down to glibc since downgrading valgrind doesn't fix it...
[14:04] <Laney> can ask
[14:04] <Laney> is there a bug number?
[14:05] <seb128> Laney, no, let me open one, I was first unsure if that was me only/a local problem/one with gnome-calendar
[14:10] <seb128> Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/valgrind/+bug/1848211
[14:10] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1848211 in valgrind (Ubuntu) "valgrind fails to use debug symbols from glib/gtk" [Undecided,New]
[14:14] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128, did you see my 'ping' (comment #24) at bug #1847021?
[14:14] <ubot5> bug 1847021 in ibus-libpinyin (Ubuntu) "Cannot input Chinese if only "Chinese (Intelligent Pinyin)" is set" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847021
[14:15] <seb128> GunnarHj, now I did
[14:16] <tjaalton> seb128: I'm not able to reply to the discourse thread about rls bugs
[14:16] <seb128> tjaalton, ah, I guess you need to be added to the desktop group
[14:17] <seb128> need to ping willcooke when he's online
[14:17] <tjaalton> ok
[14:41] <Laney> we broke the drums thing in the iso when switching to yaru-theme sound
[14:42] <seb128> ah :/
[14:42] <seb128> isn't that also the sound to tell the UI is ready which is needed for blind users?
[14:43] <Laney> yeah
[14:43] <seb128> :(
[14:43] <Laney> thats what i mean
[14:44] <seb128> so it was already broken in disco but we didn't notice?
[14:46] <Laney> got an iso handy to check that?
[14:47] <seb128> no, let me download one
[14:53] <jibel> I've a disco image, I can check if you want
[14:53] <seb128> please do :)
[14:53] <jibel> my pleasure
[14:53] <seb128> thx
[14:56] <jibel> no sound in disco
[14:56] <jibel> that's a pity for a disco
[14:58] <Laney> rls-ff!
[16:01] <k_alam> seb128: Hi, good afternoon, you there?
[16:01] <seb128> k_alam, hey
[16:03] <k_alam> seb128: There is a issue with u-c-c, in trunk i see a new leases but in release pocket it is still using the old version
[16:03] <k_alam> https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-control-center-team/unity-control-center/trunk
[16:03] <k_alam> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center
[16:04] <k_alam> can you plz check
[16:04] <seb128> k_alam, indeed
[16:06] <didrocks> hum, having the Shell crashing or killing it still vanishes most of the apps :/
[16:06] <seb128> k_alam, no idea what happened, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/3812/publish/1/info/ suggests it was landed/copied
[16:07] <didrocks> got it twice, I thought that was supposed to be fixed
[16:07] <seb128> Laney, ^ do you know the status?
[16:08] <seb128> k_alam, try asking sil if he knows what happened to that upload
[16:09] <k_alam> seb128: alright, but may it needs to be republished..
[16:11] <Laney> what status?
[16:11] <seb128> k_alam, the ppa got disposed so it doesn't exist anymore, unsure if the source is somewhere on the launchpad side though
[16:11] <seb128> Lukasz might know
[16:12] <Laney> don't see a record of that copy
[16:12] <seb128> looks like https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/3812/publish/1/info/ is lying
[16:12] <seb128> 'Succeeded'
[16:15] <k_alam> seb128: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/3812/finalize/1/ gives bzr: ERROR: No changes to commit.
[16:15] <seb128> k_alam, well, the vcs was updated right?
[16:15] <k_alam> yes, it was
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[16:27] <Laney> RikMills: yo, can you review the plasma bit in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/446731909/chromium-browser_76.0.3809.100-0ubuntu1~snap1_77.0.3865.120-0ubuntu1~snap1.diff.gz at all?
[16:33] <oSoMoN> oh, that would be very handy, thanks in advance!
[16:34] <GunnarHj> seb128: Did you make a note about that possible libpinyin SRU? No urgency, but I'd appreciate your view before spending time on it.
[16:35] <seb128> GunnarHj, it's a tricky one but I didn't see enough user complains to convince me there is enough of a reason to wipe that user db with an incompatible upgrade
[16:35] <seb128> GunnarHj, bionic is out with the issue for 1.5 years, now users can probably wait another cycle and use the next LTS if they want the improvements
[16:39] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yeah, that was my spontaneous conclusion too. Peng Wu is the upstream maintainer, but I don't think he is very familiar with the concept of stable releases and SRUs... So then we stick to what we have for now. Thanks for your input!
[17:08] <RikMills> Laney oSoMoN: I will try to test in a little while. Looks like it only handles a pinned taskmanager launcher though. People sometimes add launchers as panel widgets which don't live in the taskmanager, or as desktop icon
[17:08] <RikMills> typical KDE. many ways to do things!
[17:09] <seb128> Laney, on that example-content issue, what do you mean is still an issue, nautilus not opening link .desktop types?
[17:09] <oSoMoN> RikMills, thanks, your feedback much appreciated!
[17:09] <Laney> seb128: the bug as described in there is not fixed in any way
[17:09] <Laney> just not our problem any more
[17:10] <oSoMoN> RikMills, note that this code path is only really useful for pinned launchers, because it ensures the DE matches the running app to the launcher
[17:10] <oSoMoN> it's less of a concern for launcher icons that are not linked to running apps
[17:10] <RikMills> oSoMoN: fair enough
[17:11] <seb128> Laney, well, the description to me looks like the nautilus wontfix part
[17:12] <seb128> nautilus upstream said they have no interest in doing something better with Desktop =link types
[17:12] <Laney> ok, feel free to handle it however you think is best
[17:12] <seb128> handle however to?
[17:12] <seb128> it has a "nautilus (wontfix)" line
[17:12] <Laney> the example-content part is confirmed
[17:12] <Laney> it's still true that it creates a link which can't be used
[17:13] <seb128> with nautilus, I guess e.g nemo deal with it fine, so it would work on other flavors
[17:13] <Laney> ok
[17:13] <Laney> not sure what you're asking from me
[17:13] <seb128> I was unsure to understand your comment
[17:13] <seb128> I think I do get what you mean now
[17:13] <seb128> so thx :)
[17:14] <Laney> the bug is exactly as valid as it was before
[17:14] <Laney> just less relevant for ubuntu desktop
[17:14] <Laney> think that's a clear enough statement
[17:16] <seb128> right, it's just that kind of bug that is weird because a combinaison of factors
[17:17] <seb128> it's example-content doing something not common and nautilus having remove support for that
[17:17] <seb128> so it happens only in a combinaison of using example-content and nautilus
[17:17] <Laney> ok
[17:17] <seb128> and we sort of removed the only case of that setup we had
[17:17] <Laney> close it as won't fix then
[17:17] <seb128> I guess
[17:18] <Laney> example-content is not supported in nautilus
[17:18] <seb128> at the same time this package is probably not important enough to even justify the time we spent having that discussion :)
[17:18] <seb128> we could probably just remove it from the archive or let it as it with the bug confirmed, it's not like it was the only cruft around
[17:19] <seb128> so yeah, enough discussed it, thx for the input and sorry for turning that into a not very useful discussion
[17:19] <Laney> removing it is fine by me
[17:19] <Laney> that would also close the bug ;-)
[17:19] <seb128> right; let's see with willcooke once he's back
[17:27] <RikMills> oSoMoN: Installed chromium deb. Piined it to taskmanager. Upgraded chromium with the transitional snap package. ran your code snippet. launcher still works
[17:27] <RikMills> *pinned
[17:38] <oSoMoN> RikMills, so far so good :) doesn't the code snippet look too clumsy? that's my first contact with KDE scripting…
[17:42] <RikMills> it looks similar to a lot of other plasma desktop scripting. KDE didn't keep it simple!
[17:43] <RikMills> I am far from an expert at it also. if it works it works
[18:28] <seb128> marcustomlinson doing some serious libreoffice bug triaging :)
[18:32] <oSoMoN> yeah
[18:33] <oSoMoN> and spamming my inbox while I should really be looking at something else ;)
[18:35] <oSoMoN> good night all