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Sven_vBhi! how can my bash script query what text is in a specific part of another program's status bar (e.g. VLC playback speed, LibreDraw zoom level)? they run as the same user on the same X display. can it register as an accessibility helper program or sth.? can I access their memory directly since it runs as the same user? (probably the most brittle approach though)00:49
Sven_vBlooking for approaches that work on xenial or bionic, amd6400:49
AscavasaionHOw do I browse network in Nautilus?  I have tried the "+ Other Locations" option but it will not allow me to browse smb://xyz/ or smb://IP  The "Connect" button remains greyed out all the time.01:05
AscavasaionI figured it out... cannot do it using sudo nautilus.  As soon as I drop to normal user it works.01:07
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loganleehello02:47
lotuspsychjewelcome loganlee02:49
loganleehi02:49
lotuspsychjehow can we help you today loganlee ?02:49
loganleejust chillin' man02:50
FrommholdDamn. Ubuntu really is annoying when you install it to an hdd. When the hdd is doing alot of work, youtube videos and even the mouse sometimes begin to stutter for 1-2sec every 10seconds or so. Is the default scheduler not good for hdds or something or is it because i encrypted it? (using 19.04)03:28
Frommhold(i think i'm going to buy a SSD for ubuntu this week anyway and clone it there, so more a question out of curiosity)03:30
OerHeksi guess it depends on your hardware, choose a lighter desktop?03:31
OerHekssome GPUs will not play youtube flawlessly03:32
OerHeks!flavors03:32
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours03:32
loganleedoes latest ubuntu support finger print sensor in laptop?03:37
OerHeksall ubuntu versions do, it depends on the fingerprint gui and supported chips03:39
OerHekshttps://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui and the rest of chips on https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html03:40
OerHeksnot yet for EOAN, i see03:40
lotuspsychjeFrommhold: spinner hd's + gnome3 bit of bottleneck03:42
OerHeksIDE spinners surely03:42
Frommholdgonna try bfq scheduler soon, maybe it will work better then, lets see... definetely not a cpu/ram/gpu issue, more than enough for gnome3.03:44
Frommholdgod, HDDs are annoying once you are used to a SSD, it's like hell.03:45
OerHeksyes, slower menus ..03:45
lotuspsychjeFrommhold: id go for what OerHeks suggests, lightweight flavour, lubuntu/xubuntu03:46
loganleethe latest version of lubuntu looks great03:50
OerHeks2 days until 19.10 will be released, you can test the releasecandidate today, that would be appreciated03:52
OerHekshttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/407/builds03:53
Frommholdlotuspsychje, yeah, you are right. Installed lxde and tested playing youtube there while writing a tempfile with dd, not a single stutter, filemanager etc took ages to load, so hdd was @ 100% i guess, but alot smoother there. I guess my only option is to buy a second SSD for ubuntu, cause i really like gnome3 :)03:59
Frommhold(the vanilla version, not ubuntu-desktop)04:00
lotuspsychjeFrommhold: its possible to tweak gnome to the extreme also to make it more lightweight, installing: preload, haveged,bleachbit the system, tweak systemd services, disable unwanted startup items, disable animations,..04:25
loganleehmmmm04:57
lotuspsychjewhats wrong loganlee04:57
loganleenothing man04:58
loganleei remember the days when i plug in a usb stick and i had to manually mount it05:05
loganleewe've came a long way05:05
lotuspsychjecome to #ubuntu-discuss if you like loganlee05:05
loganleeim fine thx05:06
nikolamWhat a shitty world now become, because of this ' sudo ' bug. doing admin tasks without separate admin password were always problematic and now it seems it is truly bad with this bug. https://thehackernews.com/2019/10/linux-sudo-run-as-root-flaw.html05:12
lotuspsychje!language | nikolam and offtopic05:12
ubottunikolam and offtopic: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList05:12
nikolamI am sorry for my language.05:12
nikolamBut I think it is on topic, since ubuntu surely also shipped 'sudo' with this bug for years.05:13
lotuspsychjenikolam: its not, this channel is for supporting issues only, join #ubuntu-discuss instead please05:13
OerHeksnikolam, just update, fix is released. and it is not ubuntu only..05:16
nikolamYes, I got update now for sudo, it's in the updates.05:16
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amosbirdeww, still cannot find out why I don't need to enter password to gpg anymore. I feel unsafe ...06:07
nikolamamosbird, it would be more safe if you enter som other password but your own for login. You can set for your home directory to be encrypted, during account creation.06:33
nikolambut the question of isolation of apps is valid, I for sure, use password for getting remembered passwords in Firefox password manager. Maybe you can digg if that is upstream change or Ubuntu protects them some other way. but I surely know that my Firefox password and it's cypher is not particularly strong one.06:36
The_LoudSpeakerHow do I install amdgpu pro driver on 19.04 ?06:37
amosbirdnikolam: The question is , I'd like to know who is keeping my password06:37
nikolamThe_LoudSpeaker, I wonder, is there a particular reason to install and use Pro driver with proprietary parts, instead of AMD's open one?06:37
nikolamamosbird, good question, maybe good enough to create bug report to get clarification. I think there are GNOME tools in the background, managing that for apps.06:39
The_LoudSpeakernikolam: I have radeon R7 series gpu which needs amdgpu pro afaik.06:40
nikolamafaik pro version is optional and for some proprietary features not found in AMD's open driver.06:41
The_LoudSpeakerHow do I install the open one btw?06:41
OerHeksif your card is capable, amdgpu is already running, and amdgpu-pro is on their website06:42
The_LoudSpeakerI don't see amdgpu running when I search using ps and grep06:44
The_LoudSpeakerOerHeks: ^06:44
OerHekslspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga # would show06:48
dCLCpanybody here familiar with ubuntu server, aws, and lamp stack type stuff? I am kinda stuck. I have been following this tutorial and everything works except for the php.info portion at the end: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu06:54
dCLCpUltimately I am wanting to install tiny rss on this thing and get the most out of my free tier usage.06:54
OerHeksdCLCp, after edit, did you restart apache?06:56
OerHekssudo systemctl restart apache206:57
dCLCpyup06:57
dCLCpit serves up a blank page in firefox and error 500 in chrome06:57
dCLCpthe test page works fine but not the php script.06:57
dCLCpbeen trying to do the same thing on a virtual box image but that isn't working hardly at all for I suspect a whole different can of worms (networking stuff)06:59
dCLCpcan't even get that to serve up a test page.06:59
The_LoudSpeakerOerHeks: It shows only my Intel uhd graphics 620 driver.06:59
jerichowasahoax`I'm trying to install lvm2 in a chroot and it's stuck. Where do I start07:00
dCLCpjerichowasahoax`, have you tried turning it off and on again?07:01
jerichowasahoax`dCLCp: this would be attempt six.07:01
dCLCphave I tried turning it off and on again...07:01
jerichowasahoax`I can't just boot into the system - root is on an LVM volume, which the initrd doesn't support because lvm2 wasn't installed when it was generated07:02
jerichowasahoax`chicken, meet egg.07:02
dCLCp(I was mostly joking I really am probably less qualified than anyone in here to help anyone with anything)07:03
dCLCphuh. so I rebooted and that broke everything lol07:06
jerichowasahoax`it unstuck!07:07
dCLCppatience worked at last :)07:12
dCLCpok...07:14
dCLCplet's try this again07:14
dCLCpok so now the apache page isn't showing up after reboot lol07:18
dCLCpbouncer works though so it's not the machine07:20
tommy``http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GKmnjmmBs/ <------ i would like to understand what that managed=false means07:43
Harishello all07:51
Harison 14.04 where are default apache error files housed07:51
Harisapache2+07:51
lotuspsychjeHaris: are you paying for ESM support?07:52
Harisno07:52
Haristhis is one box I haven't migrated off of yet07:52
OerHeks14.04 is dead, no support.07:52
Harisits a standard location. nothing custom which requires thinking07:52
OerHeksoh, why do you need error files then?07:52
HarisI'm having a strange affect07:52
OerHeksyeah, you are vulnerable. good luck then07:53
Harisapache2 is logging 200 in log at my end. but remote end is getting 403 in raw manual telnet hit07:53
HarisI want to confirm if the error detail being sent is standard from apache or a possible proxy at remote end07:54
Harisapache2+07:54
lotuspsychjeHaris: did you read what OerHeks just said?07:54
Harisyes. every word07:54
Harisits not in my control07:54
lotuspsychjeend of life= no support07:54
Harisand I said its nothing that is custom or complex or anything. its just a path07:55
lotuspsychjeHaris: we advise you to install a supported version of ubuntu, from the topic07:55
lotuspsychjeHaris: backups & configs from an eol version, will be your task07:56
OerHekshow does one tell if there is a proxy or mitm thingy going on.07:56
tommy``https://i.stack.imgur.com/wt4EE.png <---- what's this icon means? I got that too07:56
OerHeksnever seen that icon before? same icon as in the menu, if you hit that icon07:57
Harismy end web server is logging a different response. remote end is receiving a different response07:58
tommy``OerHeks: no i only do a restart network-manager, ant that's appeared07:58
lotuspsychjeHaris: please dont use this channel to describe every step you do, specially from an eol version07:58
Harisok07:59
Haristhis is common conceptual stuff. it doesn't specifically fall onto an eol version08:00
lotuspsychjeHaris: yes, and it doesnt fit here08:00
Harisbut talking here because many other than me are more experienced08:00
lotuspsychjeHaris: i hope you understand we can only support ubuntu related issues, on supported versions and derivatives08:00
tommy``OerHeks: i didn't see with that "x" on bottom right, usually is white08:00
Harisofcourse. I agre08:01
Harisagree+08:01
dCLCpok so I restarted my aws instance of ubuntu server and now I can't get even the apache test page to show up on this lamp stack I am trying to build.08:01
dCLCpBefore I couldn't get the php script to load from this tutorial: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu08:02
dCLCpso I thought maybe I would restart the vps and see if that helped but now the apache web serving anything I guess?08:02
dCLCpI am running a znc bouncer from it so I know it's on and working. I just don't know why apache isn't working or for that matter php.08:03
OerHeksmaybe  phpinfo() is disabled in the php.ini > disable_functions = phpinfo08:08
OerHeksi think it should be, for security reasons08:09
dCLCpok but why isn't it serving the apache test page?08:10
dCLCpI restarted the service08:11
dCLCpIt isn't serving anything at all now.08:11
dCLCpthank you for help I will try and see if I can find php.ini and see if that is the case.08:13
dCLCptbh I may just go ahead and try to proceed with installing tiny tiny rss without dotting all the t's and checking all the i's I just wanted to make sure I had the prerequisites down first.08:14
bodomHi there. I think i've found a bug in lvm/initramfs, but i'm not sure.09:50
cloaked1so I dpkg -i two packages where I inadvertently tried to install packages which are the next version up from what installed. This machine is blocked from egress to the Internet. Now when I do apt install -f, instead of politely saying, no-can-do buddy, it wants to remove apt and friends with a huge nasty warning.09:54
cloaked1I appreciate the warning, but how can I just revert the dpkg -i on the two debs?09:55
cloaked1dpkg -r pkg pkg doesn't seem to work.09:55
isomarigreetings, I'm installing ubuntu on an hp omen laptop. The text of the installation is so small ican't read it. How can I change the font size?09:57
OerHeksisomari, at the beginning of the install : F6 nomodeset # might help10:14
isomarithanks10:14
OerHeksand some tips https://jeanbruenn.info/2018/04/01/omen-hp-with-linux/ see blacklisting10:15
tommy``this is my vsftpd.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TgKS2S5cw6/10:18
tommy``is this correct? i can't connect to my ftp10:18
jpmhI read on engadget that there is a problem with sudo and I should upgrade to 1.8.28 - I am running a fully patched and up-to-daye 18.4.3 LTS and my sudp appears to be 1.8.21 -- what am I missing here10:19
tomreyn!latest | jpmh: for general understanding of package versions in ubuntu10:21
ubottujpmh: for general understanding of package versions in ubuntu: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.10:21
jinmiaoluo!backports10:22
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging10:22
tomreynjpmh: so security patches are backported, and this is also the case here. since you seem to be interested in following such reports, you may want to subscribe to the announcement mailing list, and read the advisories at https://usn.ubuntu.com (security.ubuntu.com ridirects there if that's easier to remember)10:22
tomreynthis also enables you to verify that the version you have installed is patched against a vulnerability discussed there, by inspecting the package version.10:23
OerHeks!info sudo bionic10:23
ubottusudo (source: sudo): Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.8.21p2-3ubuntu1.1 (bionic), package size 420 kB, installed size 1808 kB10:23
jpmhtomreyn: thank you so much = I should have remained confident and ignored endgadget - generally I dont want to have to worry about this stuff which is why my systems are all set to automatically update - there is enough to worry aboiut in our own apps10:25
tomreynto prevent misunderstandings, when i wrote "security patches are backported" i don't mean they land in the "backports" apt repository, but they end up in the ubuntu-updates/-security repositories, which are both enabled by ddefault10:26
tomreynjpmh: great, if you have your systems install security updates automatically then you only need to care about configuring and operating them securely, and about regular reboots (or whenever there are security related kernel or central user space package updates)10:28
jpmhtomreyn: that is what I had hoped - this is why I run ubuntu rather than one of the other distros on my servers10:29
jeremy31jpmh: the fix on ubuntu was made 5 days ago10:29
jpmhjeremy31: glad to hear it - although I sure hope that in reality I do not need the oatch at all since no one should be at the shell other than my staff10:30
jpmhjeremy31: it appears from the logs that I am correct in my assumption too - we run public-key second factor and limit the ip addresses for connections, and monitr the logs10:31
_divzeroWotcha. If you're wanting to build a kernel from the Ubuntu git repository following the docs at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel, can anyone tell me what the "ubuntu" way to just build modules only is? i.e. their equivalent of "make -j4 -C $PWD M=$PWD/path/to/modules" ? Ive tried doing it the "normal" way but the source tree throws up errors so I assume there's some ubuntu specific preparatory step I need to follow?10:47
DarkTricktommy``, still problems with your vsftpd?10:56
tommy``yes DarkTrick10:56
DarkTricktommy``, How do you connect to it?10:57
DarkTricknautilus?10:57
tommy``i made some changes to the .conf but still issues... i'm using filezilla10:57
DarkTrickhow = which tool do you use?10:57
tommy``filezilla FTP with TLS10:57
DarkTrickdoes it give you any error on connect?10:57
tommy``wait a sec.... maybe something changed10:58
tommy``DarkTrick: so now filezilla seems can't do LIST of FTP directory11:00
tommy``connection with TLS is ok11:00
tommy``i got "server doesn't support ASCII"11:00
tommy``DarkTrick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VVQTSrYkYy/ new .conf11:03
DarkTricktommy``, just out of curiosity: why don't you enable utf8?11:15
tommy``DarkTrick: in .conf file? I didn't see that option, where is it?11:16
DarkTricksec11:16
tommy``#ascii_download_enable=YES <-----?11:17
DarkTricktommy``,  utf8_filesystem=YES11:17
DarkTricktbh, I never saw your error. But ASCII-problems look like some encoding problem11:17
tommy``encoding?11:18
DarkTrickthe fact, that you can't use LIST, might be a permission problem?11:18
DarkTrickdoes your use have read permission on the directory?11:18
DarkTrick@encoding: how letters are represented or which numbers (as the computer only knows numbers) correspond to which letter11:19
DarkTricke.g. 65 for A or 97 for a11:19
tommy``sudo chown ftpuser:ftpuser /home/ftpuser/ftp/files i have done this and sudo chmod a-w /home/ftpuser/ftp11:20
DarkTrickso its like --rx-rx-rx ?11:20
DarkTricksec11:21
tommy``a = all/everyone  - = remove  w = write permission, so, remove write permissions for everyone no?11:21
DarkTrickcan you do `ls -l /home/ftpuser/ftp` ?11:22
DarkTricksry11:22
DarkTrickcan you do `ls -l /home/ftpuser` ?11:22
DarkTrickyou should see something like "--rx-rx-rx" then11:22
tommy``-rw-r--r--11:23
tommy``mmh11:23
DarkTrickremove the w for testing11:23
DarkTricksudo chmod u-w /home/ftpuser/ftp11:23
DarkTrickshould do it11:23
derpadminthe server want binary mode instead of ASCII11:23
DarkTrickderpadmin, this would be a setting in filezilla, right?11:24
derpadmincorrect11:24
derpadminyou can send the mode binary command to the server11:24
derpadminok fine, what is the server?11:25
derpadminand what mode is it configured? active vs passive11:26
tommy``ok i changed chmod but still no result, can't do LIST11:26
DarkTricktommy``, you could do: Filezilla->Transfer->Transfer type->Binary11:26
derpadminyes, but the list issue seems to be an active/passive thing11:26
tommy``mmh ok11:27
derpadminis it active or passive?11:27
BluesKajHowdy folks11:27
tommy``i have pasv_enable yes11:27
tommy``pasv_enable=YES pasv_min_port=49152 pasv_max_port=4915411:27
tommy``those are both on router and ufw11:28
derpadminhttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=ftp+active+vs+passive&t=ffsb&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldofintegration.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fpictures_for_content%2FWOI_protocols%2FFTP_Passive.jpg11:28
tommy``49152:49154/tcp            ALLOW       Anywher11:28
derpadminok, so server get to choose the port11:29
derpadminreturn it to the client11:29
derpadminyou are using vsftpd?11:29
tommy``yes11:29
derpadminhere are my notes11:30
derpadminhttps://200013.net/doc/LINUX/ftp+ftps/vsftpd.txt11:30
tommy``chroot_list_enable=YES <---- i haven't this11:30
derpadminadd it11:32
tommy``Error GnuTLS -15: An unexpected TLS packet was received.11:33
tommy``that from filezilla11:33
derpadminthis is a new error?11:33
tommy``yes11:34
tommy``after activating list enable11:34
derpadminok, so this one is a TLS issue it seems11:34
derpadminyou want the server to be 100% TLS11:34
derpadmin?11:34
gbellinozgnome-control center looks like this for me on 18.04... what do I check?11:34
gbellinozhttps://ibb.co/zQVpb7311:34
tommy``derpadmin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZYrBQkzP4h/ i have this11:35
derpadminyou try to log anon or with user pass?11:37
tommy``login is ftpuser and pass is the pass of ftpuser11:37
derpadminok, let me read the man :)11:38
tommy``ok11:38
OerHeksforce_local_logins_ssl=YES and then ssl_sslv2=NO ssl_sslv3=NO ... interesting11:38
derpadminI think you can add ssl_enable=YES11:39
tommy``i have11:39
derpadminand remove force_local_logins_ssl11:39
derpadminok, I did not see it in your paste11:39
derpadminwwhhoo11:40
tommy``i repast all11:40
derpadminrsa_cert_file and rsa_private_key_file are the same file11:40
derpadminno bueno11:40
tommy``http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Sx3SQPqRwr/11:41
derpadminkey needs to be key11:41
derpadmincert needs to be vert11:41
derpadmincert needs to be cert11:41
derpadminis /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem a key or a cert?11:42
derpadminif it is a cert; this : openssl x509 -text -in /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem should extract the information11:42
derpadminsee : https://200013.net/doc/LINUX/openssl/openssl_cli.txt11:43
tommy``yes i can extrat infos11:44
derpadminso it is a certificate11:44
derpadminyou need the key in rsa_private_key_file11:44
derpadminwhere is the key yo? :P11:44
tommy``ahah dunno devil11:44
derpadminhow did you create the cert?11:45
tommy``i followed this guide11:45
tommy``https://devanswers.co/installing-ftp-server-vsftpd-ubuntu-18-04/11:45
tommy``sudo openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem -out /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem11:45
derpadminrepalce by :11:46
derpadminsudo openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.key -out /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem11:46
derpadmin:)11:46
tommy``done11:46
derpadminand use rsa_private_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.key11:46
derpadminreload/restart vsftpd11:47
tommy``ok11:47
tommy``that guide so is not precise11:47
derpadmina little error :)11:47
tomreyngbellinoz: when did it start looking like this?11:47
tomreyngbellinoz: and what did you do in between? and which ubuntu version are you running (lsb_release -ds)?11:48
gbellinoztomreyn:  18.04 (stated above), and nothing "in between". I've never seen it work.11:48
gbellinozI don't use gnome desktop (11:49
gbellinozbut11:49
gbellinozits printer setup widget is sometimes essential!11:49
gbellinozCUPS = pain11:49
tomreyngbellinoz: so what do you use?11:49
tomreynnc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)11:50
gbellinozawesomewm11:50
gbellinozbut lots of gnome stuff installed because, you know, desktop.11:50
OerHeksproblem with gnome-control-center but using awesome..11:50
OerHekswhy not mentioning that directly?11:50
tomreynyes that would help in the future11:51
gbellinozSure, but it worked under 16.04.11:51
tomreynyou can use http://localhost:631 for managing your printers11:51
OerHekscups improved dramaticly in 18.0411:52
ioriagbellinoz,     try to run it with the gnome env :     'env XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME gnome-control-center'11:52
gbellinozioria: that works! do you know why?11:52
ioriayes, 'cause of the env11:52
gbellinozcool, thanks.11:53
ioriaok11:53
giacoI am confused by the many different command line tools to handle wifi connections11:59
giacois there any "ubuntu way"?12:00
OerHeksgiaco, networkmanager and networkmanager-cli12:02
isomariwhen is the next lts vesion12:15
transhumanso, I have tried several things on both Ubuntu and Debian for a fast randomization of  a hard drive came across this command pv —timer —rate —stop-at-size -s "$(blockdev —getsize64 /dev/sda )" /dev/urandom > /dev/sda , seems 8 times faster than other methods my question is this with the getsize64 whats the maximum sized hard drive that this will work with?12:16
OerHeksisomari, next year12:17
OerHeks!yy.mm12:17
ubottuUbuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle12:17
isomarithanks12:18
giacoOerHeks: thanks12:37
giacoI' having problems with wifi card12:40
giacoI see it with lsusb, I see module with lsmod, I see card with iwconfig (unassociated), but sudo iwlist <cardname> scan returns "wlx24050ff69d6e  No scan results" immediatly12:41
giacosame card is working on other ubuntu boxes, so I don't know what's wrong now12:42
giacoubuntu 18.0412:42
tomreynwhat does lsusb say about it?12:42
giacotomreyn: Bus 002 Device 010: ID 0bda:8812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8812AU 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WLAN Adapter12:43
giacotomreyn: lsmod shows 8812au (installed with rtl8812au-dkms)12:44
OerHekswpa-supplicant installed too?12:45
giacoOerHeks: wpasupplicant is already the newest version (2:2.6-15ubuntu2.5)12:46
tomreynrtl8812au-dkms should provide the r8812au network driver12:46
tomreynbut the one you have loaded is 8812au?12:47
giacotomreyn: that is what I've installed on other machines to make it work12:47
tomreyncan you easily access other systems which work and checkl what lsmod reports there?12:48
giacotomreyn: this is lsmod | grep au on non-working machine http://ix.io/1YJh12:48
tomreynokay, so i guess the package description is wrong if it works there using the rtl8812au-dkms package.12:49
tomreyndid dkms succeed after you installed rtl8812au-dkms?12:50
giacotomreyn: sorry I'm not really into dkms, but isn't the presence of the module signature of a corrent dkms process?12:52
tomreynhmm i guess it must have, otherwise it could not have built the modules. what was logged? systemctl -b | grep 8812au | nc termbin.com 999912:53
tomreynsorry, wrong command:  journalctl -b | grep 8812au | nc termbin.com 999912:54
giacoI'm summoning --reinstall in rtl8812au-dkms package, I'll post here output12:54
tomreynif you have a different form of internet access, better purge, then install12:54
giacotomreyn: apparently dkms performs cleanup automatically12:55
giacotomreyn: here http://ix.io/1YJj12:56
tomreyndo you run the same vanilla kernel on the other systems?12:57
giacotomreyn: yes12:57
OerHeks83 not upgraded... might give a kernel update?12:58
tomreynrmadison suggests the kernel version is the latest12:58
tomreynso check the logs12:59
tomreynsee what nmcli says about it12:59
tomreynand yes, install those updates, too, since there can be other relevant updates as well13:00
ioriagiaco, maybe your particular device is not covered by that pkg: update your system and then  you can try this : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y5JQRrZJpJ/13:02
giacoioria: as I said that device works on another ubuntu 18.04 with same rtl8812au-dkms package13:02
giacoioria: ok, I'll try that immediatly13:03
giacocompiling ...13:04
tomreynwell if it is known that the same device works on other ubuntu 18.04 systems with the rtl8812au-dkms package without further modifications then i would not actually recommend using git repositories.13:04
tomreynthe vendor/device id does match the ones rtl8812au-dkms claims to cover (but of course there could be different hardware versions)13:05
giacotomreyn: I think so. The module that shows up with lsmod on working-box is 8812au, the one that is compiled with the git tree is named rtl8812au13:06
giacobtw: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'rtl8812au': Device or resource busy13:06
giacoO_o13:07
tomreynyou'd need to    modprobe -vr 8812au   beforehand13:08
tomreynthat's if you wanted to use the 'rtl8812au' module now13:08
giacotomreyn: no, I want to use whatever works. I prefer the one in the ubuntu repo obviusly but I'm just givint this a try to find out if the problem is actually somewhere else13:09
giaco(non sure if this is worth)13:10
giacoof this is strange now: sudo modprobe -vr 8812au says modprobe: FATAL: Module 8812au not found.13:10
giacobut lsmod shows 8812au13:10
tomreyndoes    sudo rmmod -v 8812au    report something different?13:12
giacotomreyn: that worked13:13
tomreyngood.13:14
giacook now I've inserted the module compiled from git13:15
giacotomreyn: this is what dmesg reports when inserting the usb card http://ix.io/1YJu13:17
giacoI feel like back to the starting point: I see it with lsusb, I see module with lsmod, I see card with iwconfig (unassociated), but sudo iwlist <cardname> scan returns "wlx24050ff69d6e  No scan results"13:18
giacoso apparently both module from ubuntu repo and git tree pointed me to the same stop, so it must be something else13:19
giacoif possible I would prefer removing the module from git and reinstall the ubuntu one13:20
giacodo you have any hint on how to perform this operation?13:20
tomreyni'm not sure how to remove the rtl8812au one. it's probably also dkms based?13:21
tomreyndkms status    would tell13:22
tomreynif it's listed there,   dkms uninstall rtl8812au13:22
tomreyngiaco: ^13:22
giacotomreyn: thanks. I've successfully removed git module and reinstalled ubuntu one. Happy about this, but still stuck at first step13:25
tomreyngiaco: so show the logs and nmcli output13:26
tomreynjournalctl -b | grep 8812au | nc termbin.com 9999; journalctl -b0 -p3 | nc termbin.com 9999; nmcli | nc termbin.com 999913:27
tomreynnmcli device show wlx24050ff69d6e 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; rkfill list all 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999913:31
giacotomreyn: rfkill list http://ix.io/1YJB13:36
tomreynwake me up when you also got the others13:37
giacotomreyn: trying to workaround nmcli as I'm not using networkmanager13:39
giacogot blue blinking light with sudo ip link set dev wlx24050ff69d6e up13:40
doug16kon every startup, my volume control doesn't work, because the audio device is set to (usb) headphones, yet the audio comes out my motherboard sound card line out through my speakers. I have to go change the audio output device to something else back to line out to get it to control my speakers correctly13:41
doug16kis that a known bug?13:41
tomreyndoug16k: known bugs are bugs which have been filed on launchpad.13:43
doug16koh that site where you file bugs and they sit there for years? ok thanks13:46
OerHeksthey won't vanish at launchpad13:46
OerHeksjust get fixed. or not, if the report is of no use13:47
doug16kI have filed bugs where the repro is just install the package. zero replies13:48
Sven_vBdoug16k, I even posted patches for problems that several people had, no reactions either. the main freedom of free software is you can spend your own free time to fix it. ;)13:50
doug16kI have contributed to open source projects, such as blender, and qemu13:50
Sven_vBand the general computer support problem, once it works, people immediately move on with that they really wanted to do, and won't go back to the thread to give feedback.13:51
Sven_vBdoug16k, as for the real problem: would it help to disable the mainboard audio?13:52
doug16kI need both, I don't use headphones unless I want to be quiet or skype13:53
doug16khttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1631161  (reported 2016)13:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1631161 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Preferred output device is not remembered between logins" [High,Confirmed]13:58
doug16ktags:added: rls-ee-notfixing14:03
doug16knotfixing. ok then14:03
doug16kthat's what you'd expect from a confirmed "high importance" bug I guess14:04
tomreyndoug16k: this is not the right channel to report back your feelings about bug triage14:05
doug16kjust explaining why I think it is futile to report bugs on launchpad14:05
doug16kI'll put up with it. thanks14:07
vostok4does anyone know why systemctl stop gdm wouldn't kill X in ubuntu 18.04? i'm running a manually installed NVIDIA driver with WaylandEnabled=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf .. right now i systemctl set-default multi-user.target and reboot to kill gdm/X :(14:27
Priceyvostok4: Are you sure you don't have multiple X?14:51
tinyhippoif I needed to update a systemd script for a particular service, where woudl I find them?15:13
lordcirthtinyhippo, 'systemctl edit'15:15
tinyhippoperfect, thanks lordcirth15:15
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duncan-nzwhere can i see a startup log so i can see why my install (19.04) is staring so slowly?16:42
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: can you pastebin: systemd-analyze blame && systemd-analyze critical-chain please16:43
duncan-nzlotuspsychje, hi, here s the info: https://pastebin.com/C1TPF5mG16:45
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: yeah, plymouth, apt and logrotate top3 taking pretty long so it seems16:47
lordcirthIt doesn't seem to have run critical-chain?16:48
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: can you repaste: systemd-analyze critical-chain16:49
duncan-nzsorry, here's the full text: https://pastebin.com/nFLNSdNH16:50
duncan-nzbetter?16:50
lordcirthshould probably use ; instead of &&16:50
tomreynthat's the full output of the *first* command now16:50
lordcirthBut just paste the output of 'systemd-analyze critical-chain' by itself, please16:51
lotuspsychjeyeah seems not to work with && my bad16:52
duncan-nzhere it is:https://pastebin.com/ig6PdXFg16:52
duncan-nz(it was  working, i'm just poor at using a terminal)16:54
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: wich ubuntu release are you on?16:54
tomreynis this 19.04 installation a fresh one?16:55
duncan-nz19.0416:55
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: desktop?16:55
duncan-nzyes, it's fress16:55
duncan-nzdesktop on a lenovo w540. so it's pretty standard hardware16:55
tomreyngraphics card?  lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999916:56
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: critical-chain gives a longer list for me16:56
tomreynapparently intel hd 4600 and nVidia Quadro K1100M or K2100M16:57
duncan-nzyeah, it's a quadro because i run graphics heavy stuff. https://termbin.com/ak8h16:57
duncan-nzQuadro K1100M16:57
tomreynthe next thing to look at is probably a complete system log:  journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999916:58
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: when you say slowly, what are we talking about in time exactly? before login or after login to desktop?16:59
duncan-nzis there nothing privacy concerning in that output? that's lot of output.17:00
SimounetHi there, is anyone knows an image viewer app that can go to the next image with the mousewheel please?17:00
duncan-nzafter login is fine. It getting from the grub selection to the login screen.17:00
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: ok tnx17:01
tomreynduncan-nz: there will be hardware serial numbers in there.17:01
tomreynalso ip addresses17:01
duncan-nzactual time? not sure. in the earlier log it looks like over a minute which feels about right.417:01
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: another idea is pressing F1 at ubuntu logo, to switch to textbooting and see where it bottlenecks in realtime17:02
lotuspsychjeSimounet: think thats more what pdf readers do17:03
Simounetlotuspsychje: Ok but not that handy to browse images. :p17:04
lotuspsychjeSimounet: mousewheel is suppose to go up/down, pics browsing left/right17:04
lotuspsychjeSimounet: unless you find a way to tweak your mousewheel17:04
Simounetlotuspsychje: I just want to bind next image to wheel down.17:05
duncan-nztomreyn, https://termbin.com/eyyb i guess the government isn't that interested in me for now :-)17:05
duncan-nzthanks for helping17:05
tomreynduncan-nz: this one is special, i've never seen this before: [Firmware Bug]: Invalid EFI memory map entries:17:07
tomreynyou'll want to bios update if there's one available to fix it17:07
duncan-nzokay, maybe that's where to start then? I'll just look into that. I think I did one when i got it. How can i tell?17:08
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: DMI: LENOVO 20BHS0BE09/20BHS0BE09, BIOS GNET89WW (2.37 ) 11/14/201817:08
tomreynduncan-nz: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-w-series-laptops/thinkpad-w540/20bh/20bhs0be09/downloads/DS03907717:09
duncan-nzyeah, just found that line.17:09
tomreynduncan-nz: download the iso file (2nd download), write it to a usb stick and boot off that. see the README (first download) for more info.17:10
duncan-nzok. so it shouldn't touch ubuntu doing it that way?17:11
tomreynduncan-nz: the iso file will have to be downloaded and written to the usb storage somehow, such as from your ubuntu system.17:12
tomreynother than that, no, the bios update should not affect the installed operating system. it may, however, reset your bios configuration options to manufacturer defaults.17:14
tomreyn(you may need to customize those again to make ubuntu boot)17:14
lotuspsychjeSimounet: can you test geeqie, perhaps you can scroll the dir pic list with mouse scroll?17:14
lotuspsychje!info geeqie | Simounet17:14
ubottuSimounet: geeqie (source: geeqie): image viewer using GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4-3 (bionic), package size 550 kB, installed size 1990 kB17:14
Simounetlotuspsychje: I will. Thanks!17:14
TJ-duncan-nz: tomreyn  the EFI memmap NULL entries won't be causing a problem17:15
tomreynokay thanks TJ- - I couldn't tell17:15
Simounetlotuspsychje: This is perfect! Thank you so much!17:16
lotuspsychjewelcome Simounet17:16
TJ-duncan-nz: tomreyn  I think the primary clue is " gnome-shell[1635]: Failed to initialize accelerated iGPU/dGPU framebuffer sharing: Do not want to use software renderer (llvmpipe (LLVM 8.0, 256 bits)), falling back to CPU copy path "17:17
lotuspsychje!info ristretto | Simounet something similar17:17
ubottuSimounet something similar: ristretto (source: ristretto): lightweight picture-viewer for the Xfce desktop environment. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 227 kB, installed size 1216 kB17:17
tomreynduncan-nz / TJ-: there are also some ACPI errors17:17
tomreynTJ-: you apparently read / scroll faster than i do ;)17:18
TJ-tomreyn: I work backwards :)17:18
tomreynyes, maybe i'm too root cause focussed17:19
duncan-nzI will plan to do a bios update, but ti sounds like maybe there are other problems?17:19
tomreynstill reading, duncan-nz. what TJ- quoted means that you have no 3d graphics acceleration for some reason, which we need yet to work out.17:20
tomreynACPI Warning: \_SB.PCI0.PEG.VID._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20181213/nsarguments-66)17:22
TJ-duncan-nz: tomreyn  focus on the activity between "Reached target Default" and "Reached target Multi-User System" since that's where the main delays are17:22
lotuspsychjemight be a mix of different things going on too17:26
tomreynIt's really just those in this area:  gnome-shell[1635]: meta_kms_resources_init failed: Calling drmModeGetResources() failed, assuming we have no outputs || gnome-shell[1635]: Failed to initialize accelerated iGPU/dGPU framebuffer sharing: Do not want to use software renderer (llvmpipe (LLVM 8.0, 256 bits)), falling back to CPU copy path17:26
lotuspsychjesnap errors, teamviewer, gnome, acpi,..17:27
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: while we breaking our heads here, can you go test the F1 textboot bottleneck?17:29
tomreynyes, it can be. but the graphics issue will probably have a single cause. i aslo didn't interpret it correctly initially. it just says the preferred rendering method failed, not that there cannot be 3d support at all (though that may be so).17:29
duncan-nzFreeCAD runs fine if that's relevant.17:30
duncan-nzI can do the F1 reboot. Shall I do that now?17:30
lotuspsychjesure thing, see where it physical lags17:31
duncan-nzsee you soon then17:31
lotuspsychjegood luck17:31
lotuspsychjetomreyn: suspect nvidia?17:33
tomreynalways. ;)17:34
lotuspsychjelol17:34
tomreynmaybe iGPU/dGPU framebuffer sharing would not work because nvidia uses KMS while intel uses UMS, but i'm not really sure there. also haven't seen this message before, ithink17:35
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: find anything suspicious?17:36
duncan-nzno, the biggest pause is before the text stream starts. I have a period with a dark screen.17:37
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: the time before the ubuntu logo?17:37
duncan-nzyes17:37
lotuspsychjehmmm17:37
duncan-nzi'm going to try again to check17:38
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: did you recently switch hardware, change bios?17:38
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: POST boot giving any weird text?17:39
duncan-nzno recent changes. my battery dies quite often, waiting on a new one. this is however a second hand computer so I can't know if it has standard components.17:39
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: how long is the time before ubuntu logo?17:40
duncan-nzi'm going to reboot.17:40
lotuspsychjekk17:40
andy_wfcI'm trying to install Ubuntu server (16.04 LTS) on a new dell box. I'm repeatedly getting a fatal error at the end that grub cannot install. If I drop out to a shell I don't seem to have any useful tools - no fdisk, no grub-install, no grub2-install, etc. Are these tools available in the install media for debugging and just tucked away in some not-obvious path?17:41
lotuspsychjetomreyn: maybe something with that efi thing you foudn at first17:42
lotuspsychjeandy_wfc: if you like there's also #ubuntu-server17:44
duncan-nztomreyn, actually there's a whole minute before the login screen and no ubuntu 'countdown' screen.17:45
ioriaandy_wfc, probably you booted in efi mode and did not create an efi partition; have you used automatic or manual partitioning ?17:45
tomreynlotuspsychje: i trust TJ there to be able to tell whether this could be an issue (as he did), but the other ACPI issues may cause delays, i guess. i think the bios upgrade would still be worthwhile.17:45
lotuspsychjetomreyn: yeah agree on the bios update17:45
andy_wfcioria: manual17:45
tomreynduncan-nz: do you also agree on the bios upgrade? ;)17:46
ioriaandy_wfc, and have you created an efi aprtition ?17:46
ioria*partition17:46
duncan-nztomreyn, of course i'll do the bios update when i have some time this evening.17:46
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: some lenovo types, might offer firmware update from within gnome-software, perhaps check?17:46
andy_wfcioria: no, it looks like that might be the issue17:47
ioriaandy_wfc, yep17:47
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: wich drivers show when you: ubuntu-drivers list17:48
duncan-nzlotuspsychje, synaptic shows nothing when i search for 'lenovo'. drivers listed are driver-390, 340 and driver-41817:49
tomreynlotuspsychje / duncan-nz: Thinkpad W series aren't listed at https://fwupd.org/lvfs/search?value=Thinkpad (and firmware updates would be offered through the "Ubuntu Software" GUI)17:50
lotuspsychjeok tomreyn17:51
lotuspsychjethe manual way then17:51
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: so a few things you can test, bios update, switch graphics drivers (as a test), clean system a bit, uninstall unwanted snaps/teamviewer/ppa's, install preload17:52
elmohhello17:53
lotuspsychjewelcome elmoh17:53
elmohI want to emulate a sensor device like a bme280 or ina219 by using a fake SMBus stub driver. anyone did that already?17:54
duncan-nzlotuspsychje, okay. i can try those things and we'll see if it helps.17:57
duncan-nzthanks for the help so far.17:57
tomreynduncan-nz: on a side note, you have some misconfiguration there (maybe in /etc/sysctl* ?): systemd reports: "Failed to bump fs.file-max, ignoring: Invalid argument"17:58
entry_lvl_devIs there a method to simulate drag and drop one file ontop of another file within the terminal?17:59
duncan-nztomreyn, yeah, but how does that kind of thing get there?18:00
tomreynduncan-nz: manual editing, i would think. or maybe some proprietary software placing it there.18:00
tomreynor make that 3rd party software, doesn't have to be proprietary18:00
tomreynOct 15 18:07:56 duncan-ThinkPad-W540 snapd[1189]: daemon.go:439: adjusting startup timeout by 1m45s (pessimistic estimate of 30s plus 5s per snap)18:03
duncan-nzi stopped editing config files manually some years ago. might get into fstab though soon again ...18:03
tomreynthis log entry could also be related. reducing installed snaps may help with faster boot.18:04
duncan-nzcool. i'll drop as many snaps as i can then18:04
duncan-nzi didn't realise they were active before asking for them18:05
tomreynsome can be replaced by classic debian packages via apt18:05
tomreynyour apache httpd is not configured correctly:18:06
tomreynOct 15 18:07:59 duncan-ThinkPad-W540 apachectl[1288]: AH00557: apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for duncan-ThinkPad-W54018:06
tomreynOct 15 18:07:59 duncan-ThinkPad-W540 apachectl[1288]: AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message18:06
duncan-nzi'm not sure why apache is even there.18:08
lotuspsychjeduncan-nz: you are the owner of your system :p18:08
duncan-nzi am. apache isn't installed according to 'sudo apt-get remove apache'18:09
sarnoldtry dpkg -l | grep apache instead18:09
duncan-nzoh, it just because the package is called apache218:12
sarnold:D18:12
tomreynduncan-nz: certainly just to trick you ;) i'll have supper now - in case you get around to do the bios upgrade post another   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999    afterwards, since output will change.18:13
tomreynduncan-nz: you also have the canonoical "partner" APT repository configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list*   (as "sudo apt update" will report)18:15
tomreynspecifically in (those numbers are line numbers on those files) /etc/apt/sources.list:43 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/disco-partner.list:418:16
CrtxReavrServer LTS comes out every 2 years?18:17
lotuspsychje!lts | CrtxReavr18:17
ubottuCrtxReavr: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information.18:17
duncan-nztomreyn, have a good evening. thanks again18:18
cloaked1so I `dpkg -i`ed two apt-related packages. I inadvertently tried to install these packages which are the next minor version up from what's installed on the machine because I did not know the source machine I'm using is 18.04.3 vs the machine I'm on which is .2. (sigh). There's no egress to the Internet (corporate). So in trying to fix the issue, when I do `apt install -f`, instead of politely saying, no-can-do buddy, it wants to remove apt and18:31
cloaked1friends with a huge nasty warning.18:31
cloaked1I appreciate the warning! Hhow can I just revert the `dpkg -i`ed packages? Well, I got one reverted. The one I can't seem to revert is `apt`. `dpkg -r apt-<ver>` doesn't want to work.18:31
cloaked1I was thinking that maybe I can re-installed the correct version on top of it...?18:32
TJ-cloaked1: try "ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/apt*" -- see if you have the correct version of the packages locally18:43
tamj0rd2Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble with Ubuntu. I accidentally filled up all the space on my os drive18:47
tamj0rd2I can't boot now. It says something about docker being unable to start up18:48
sarnoldtamj0rd2: apt autoclean may be an easy way to free up enough space to then let you fix other things18:48
tamj0rd2sarnold Do you know how I can run that without being able to boot/login? I can get as far as grub18:49
sarnoldtamj0rd2: try adding 'single' to the kernel command line, I think that still works18:50
TJ-tamj0rd2: start the system and tap Esc key repeatedly to get to the GRUB boot menu18:50
tamj0rd2OK, going to give it a try18:51
TJ-tamj0rd2: then at the menu choose Advanced sub-menu and then the first "Recovery" menu entry - that *should* get you to an emergency shell so you can get control and clean up18:51
TJ-tamj0rd2: the alternative is to manually add to the kernel command line by pressing 'e' to edit a menu entry, scroll down to the line beginning "linux ..." and add to it "systemd.unit=emergency.target" then press Ctrl+X to boot with that setting18:52
tamj0rd2I managed to get into the recovery and run the clean tool. Hopefully I can just log in now and delete my downloads folder or something18:53
tamj0rd2Actually I barely have anything in there18:53
TJ-tamj0rd2: if you want to figure out where most space is used: "sudo du -h -d 2 / | sort -n" will list largest last18:54
tamj0rd2When I installed Ubuntu I only set my partition to be 20GB because I wanted to play around with it. Do you know if there's any way to extend my space onto a separate partition?18:54
tamj0rd2Thanks I'll try that command toi18:54
TJ-tamj0rd2: generally, if you install using LVM then it is easy to extend the size of the LV, but if you used plain partitions it is more difficult18:55
tamj0rd2TJ I think I used plain partitions. Not sure what lvm in18:55
tamj0rd2Is*18:55
TJ-tamj0rd2: LVM = Logical Volume Management, a way to easily managed storage space across devices. It's an option at install time18:56
tamj0rd2Ahh, let me see18:57
tamj0rd2In disks it just lists the partition and Linux file system18:57
TJ-tamj0rd2: easy way to tell: "mount | grep mapper" --- you'd expect something like "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root / ext4 ..."18:58
tamj0rd2I've got nothing. I guess I used regular partitions18:59
TJ-tamj0rd2: sounds like it. Use the 'du' as above to figure out where the space is being used19:00
TJ-tamj0rd2: use "df -h" to check the free space19:01
tamj0rd2It looks like the snap directory is taking up a good amount of space. I might see if I can try to move that to my other internal drive19:02
TJ-tamj0rd2: most snaps are mounted on /dev/loop* and will show 100% each19:03
TJ-tamj0rd2: their file-systems are contained in read-only files so have no free space19:03
tamj0rd2Ohh19:03
sarnold(it might *still* be the reason why you're out of space, though)19:05
sarnoldI think I heard snapd keeps around *three* versions of snaps? you can probably configure it to store only two versions19:05
tamj0rd2I'm just thinking, it might be a good idea to redo my setup and reinstall Ubuntu, since going forward I probably want to use it as my main OS19:07
tamj0rd2I've already got my home directory mounted on a different hdd, is there anything else you might suggest double checking before a reinstall?19:07
TJ-tamj0rd2: see what 'du' reports as to where the space is being used19:08
sarnolddo you have databases that might store data in /var? local configs in /etc ? or /usr/local? crontabs? /root contents?19:08
tamj0rd2It's still going which seems a bit odd. Does it usually take quite a long time?19:08
sarnoldmaybe ssh hostkeys if changing those is a pain19:09
tamj0rd2Thanks sarnold19:09
TJ-tamj0rd2: yes, it can take a while it is checking the size of every file19:10
tomreyncloaked1: dpkg -r  removes, down not revert, in case you assumed it would. you can apt install /path/to/file, i.e. the older version file which may still be present in /var/cache/apt/archives/apt*"19:11
mrgrvHi everyone, not sure if I am authorized to post here, but have a real quick newby question: let's say I need to fix CVE-2019-14287 on a couple of ubuntu servers. I have located a needed package at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/1.8.16-0ubuntu1.8   However, I'd like to install it via PPA, but mixing up link for PPA does not seem to work. Like this for instance: deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/sudo xenial main19:13
mrgrvWhat am I missing?19:13
sarnoldmrgrv: why on earth would you not just "apt update && apt upgrade"?19:13
tamj0rd2TJ so it looks like /var/snap is taking the majority of the space. 10/20GB19:14
TJ-tamj0rd2: aha19:14
tamj0rd2TJ do you think moving the whole of /var to another drive would work?19:16
tamj0rd2Or mounting it elsewhere19:16
TJ-tamj0rd2: I usually have /var as a separate file-system + /var/cache as another19:17
ioriatamj0rd2, unsual, by default that dir should be no more then 148K19:17
TJ-tamj0rd2: I use LVM too and do not allocate all space until it is needed, so I can simply grow a Logical Volume as needed, with "lvextend -L +5G --resizefs VG/LV"19:18
tamj0rd2Snap is taking up 10GB though ioria. Maybe because I've downloaded a lot of stuff that's been stored there?19:18
tamj0rd2TJ That's a good idea. I'll have to do something similar19:18
ioriatamj0rd2, you know what you did19:18
tamj0rd2Ioria I've been doing a lot of work with docker today and that's when it started filling up. This is the first week that I've been using Ubuntu in months though, so maybe a lot of space was already gone19:19
ioriatamj0rd2, i see19:25
ioriatamj0rd2, so, you need space or what ?19:27
tamj0rd2Yep, I'm trying to figure out how I can move /var to a different partition19:28
ioriatamj0rd2, df -h | grep -w '/'19:29
ioriatamj0rd2, to mv /var, you create a new partition and rsync, then edit fstab accordingly19:37
cloaked1@tomreyn oh crap! I thought apt couldn't do that. Nice! I'll try it out.19:38
tamj0rd2Ioria 👍 I'm working on making another partition now19:38
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kadiroHello, the lightdm session take long time to show up ( session when you type password to get logged in ), how to solve that?20:05
kadiroxubuntu 18.04.320:05
TJ-kadiro: possibly "systemd-analyze --user critical-chain" or "systemd-analyze --user blame" might reveal something20:10
kadiroTJ-> the first command gives me this in red color: dbus.socket @118ms +13ms20:11
TJ-kadiro: 13ms isn't anything, so that hasn't helped20:11
TJ-kadiro: you might find something in $HOME/.xsession-errors although that log file is terrible to parse and doesn't keep timestamps20:12
kadiroTJ-> the second gives me: 309ms gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor.service and others less value20:12
kadiroTJ-> yeah there are many failed things in that file20:14
kadiromost of them are related to GTK things20:15
TJ-kadiro: also try "journalctl -b --user"20:16
kadiroTJ-> I found these two in red: spice-vdagent[1811]: Cannot access vdagent virtio channel /dev/virtio-ports/com.redhat.spice.0 .... pulseaudio[1844]: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.systemd1.NoSuchUnit: Unit dbus-org.bluez.service not found.20:18
kadirothe 1st one i asked before to remove but they told me it is impossible without removing xubuntu core and desktop20:19
sentimenthow can I make gnome shell run faster on my old am2 socket machine?20:22
sentimentthe machine has 6gbs of ram, a dual core 2.8ghz amd cpu, a 128gb ssd for the os plus an hdd for user files, an amd 4650 1gb gpu20:23
sentimentit's not really running slow, but it kinda feels 'heavy'20:23
tamj0rd2Does someone know the correct way to get into single user mode from grub?20:28
tamj0rd2I added init=/bin/bash to the end of the Linux line in my Ubuntu grub entry, but it just took me to a black empty screen when I booted20:29
EriC^tamj0rd2: try "systemd.unit=multi-user.target"20:30
TJ-errr, that is multi-user! systemd.unit=emergency.target is the usual requirement20:30
tamj0rd2Where do I run that command from EriC^?20:30
EriC^tamj0rd2: you put it just like init=/bin/bash20:31
tamj0rd2Thanks20:32
EriC^np20:33
tamj0rd2I'm trying to follow these steps to move my /var directory. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/131311/moving-var-home-to-separate-partition20:34
tamj0rd2I'm on step 6 now. When I run the command to copy the var folder, I get messages saying read only file system20:34
tamj0rd2Any ideas?20:34
tamj0rd2Ah, I forgot to mount. It's fine now20:35
sentimentcan someone help me with rygel?20:37
sentimentmy dlna clients do not see it. I have configured it to run on a specific network interface and port20:38
sentimentminidlna works fine, rygel doesn't20:38
tamj0rd2I'm getting stuck on step 7 now actually. When I try mv var var.old or try to delete the var folder, it says read only file system again20:43
TJ-tamj0rd2: 'mv' will try to delete after copying the file from the source. I'd presume the source file-system is mounted read-only20:45
tamj0rd2Do you know how I could make it read write?20:45
TJ-tamj0rd2: presuming it's the root file-system then "mount -o remount,rw /"20:46
tamj0rd2Ty20:46
compdocvar is not very big and vital to the system. why not leave it?20:47
TJ-var can grow quite large with cache, lib, log, snap etc.20:48
ckopnsudo flaw is real? how to check it?20:50
TJ-ckopn: https://usn.ubuntu.com/4154-1/20:50
bittin_https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/1030/jblive/ Review of Ubuntu 19.10 tonight20:53
tamj0rd2TJ Thanks for the help. Its all sorted now :)20:53
kadiroI'm still have that annoying long start session21:05
kadiroPs: in debian the boot is faster21:05
kadiroI disabled the virtual agent thing also21:06
* kadiro googling as the last hop21:10
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bittin_ burning the iso with fixed sudo now :)21:21
kadirogood21:22
pipegeekHmm, wondering if I'm taking crazy pills21:34
pipegeekrunning ubuntu 19.04.  Just installed redis-tools, and redis-cli fails with a symbol lookup error for 'mallctl'.  libjemalloc2 is up to date.21:34
pipegeekis anyone else experiencing the same thing?  Or am I being a dunce21:35
pipegeeknope.  I'm a dope.21:39
pipegeekhad a different version of libjemalloc2 in /usr/local21:39
pipegeekoff I go!21:39
bittin_Now there is 19.10 time in this weeks LUP21:44
jelouHi22:11
bittin_hi jelou22:12
jeloupeople I've a problem after I complete my user && pw on desktop-ubuntu22:13
jelouI mean after I do it there's nothing just purple background22:13
jelouI created another user and I could enter into de desktop-ubuntu, there is any way to solve it? I was finding out how to solve it22:14
jelouI'll be so glad if someone help me :)22:16
jelou:D22:16
jelouwhat can I do?22:20
sarnoldjelou: you could try moving aside your user's ~/.config directory -- maybe something in your desktop config is busted22:22
jeloumm22:23
jelouSo just I should do sth like `mv ~/.config ~/.config-old`22:24
jelou?22:24
sarnoldjelou: yeah22:24
sarnoldjelou: if you find logs for your user session, that might be more useful22:25
jelouwow, it sounds cool I could try22:25
jeloumm yep I opened my log session but I didn't know if there was an error I don't know how to recognize them, I read that if there's (EE) it's an error but some of them seems to be repeated22:27
jelouso I was no sure if there was the same error or not22:27
jelou:(22:27
jelouI moved my .config to .config-old and I tried to login again but nothing happens22:32
jelouI need to reboot or just if I press ctrl+alt+f5 and write on my terminal `sudo service gmp3` it's enough?22:34
jelousry I wanted to write `sudo service gdm3 restart`22:35
sarnoldgmp3? no idea what that is.. reboot might be overkill but hopefully easy enough ;)22:35
kk4ewtjelou; man systemctl22:35
chietahow to audit the systemd which service started or stopped... here when the box reach the login screen... it doesn't connect to the network so i should login first through the box then contact it  via ssh ... im used to use ssh directly after booting the box... how?22:57
jeloumehi again23:24
jeloumesry I had problem trying to connect here again23:24
jeloumeu.u23:24
jeloumeI couldn't solve the problem with my ubuntu-desktop :)(23:25
jeloume:(23:25
jeloumeI moved ~/.config to ~/.config-old but nothing happens I can't enter to my account23:25
jeloumejust in my new account23:25
jeloumethere's something else that I can do?23:26
Bashing-omjeloume: Have "you" lost access to the desktop: what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority '?23:27
jeloume-rw------- 1 neverkas neverkas 18700 oct 15 18:49 .ICEauthority-rw------- 1 root     root       114 oct 15 18:43 .Xauthority23:32
jeloumeSome hours ago I use chown in order to have permissions with my user23:33
Bashing-omjeloume: Paste that to a pastbin site to maintain the formatiing - but looks likely now that "root" owns the desktop.23:34
jeloumeahh ok, sorry23:35
jeloumeI'll write on pastebin23:35
Bashing-omjeloume: :) All a process of learning.23:35
jeloumejeje23:36
jeloumehttps://pastebin.com/raw/9FRzRJsi23:36
jeloumeI don't know why it shows root,23:38
jeloumesome minutes ago I wrote `chown neverkas:neverkas .Xauthority`23:38
jeloumeI write it again and now it shows this https://pastebin.com/raw/1zu6F3xR23:40
sarnoldBashing-om: wow, you're psychic! :D23:40
jeloumehaha xD23:41
jeloumeso if I try to log in again I should have problem with my other account?23:42
Bashing-omjeloume: Well then still as root owning the desktop is strange - Not delving deeper to see what else is changed - we can issue a command to change ALL files files in /home to defaults. Want to sledge hammer it and be done ?23:42
sarnoldaegis: any chance you can fix your internet connection?23:45
jeloumemm I'll forget all what I do before?23:45
jeloumebecause I had installed i3wm, another terminal, plugins, etc.. :(  I didn't want to loss all what I did23:46
jeloumethere is another way to avoid that (?23:46
sarnoldjeloume: I believe Bashing-om probably meant to change the *owner* back to default23:47
Bashing-omjeloume: "another way to avoid that" is never ever 'sudo' in your own /home.23:47
jeloumeuhm23:48
jeloumeI thought if I've to install an application I have to use sudo23:49
jeloumehow can I install them without use sudo ?23:50
sarnoldyou can use sudo to install applications; you just shouldn't run X programs via sudo23:51
jeloumeyep23:52
jeloumeI don't run apps with sudo23:52
jeloumejust when I've to install a new one23:52
Bashing-omjeloume: Install is true for "sudo" but messing about with sudo in your /home is a no no - as you can now see:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo explains better than I.23:53
jeloumeAllright I'm gonna see it, perhaps you explained well but I'm not so good when it's about English xD23:55
Bashing-omjeloume: Back to the present desktop issue. Want to look and see or just make sure all directories and files are reset to defaults accesses ?23:56
jeloume:(  I didn't want to loss all what I did T_T I spent so much time doing these changes23:56
jeloumeSry I didn't understand23:57
sarnold!ops aegis's irc client never replies to the irc PING commands -- it's probably best to ban him from the channel23:57
ubottusarnold: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:57
sarnoldubottu: silly bot. I thought you were useful.23:57
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sarnoldubottu: help23:58
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:58
sarnoldubottu: dude.23:58
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sarnoldhello channel ops :) aegis's irc client never replies to the irc PING commands -- it's probably best to ban him from the channel23:58
jeloumeBashing-omI didn't understand at all what you said23:58
DalekSecsarnold: CTCP ping would be different from IRCd ping/pong.  I'd guess you mean the former?23:59
Bashing-omjeloume: You can in mass change all files in /home to defaults.23:59
Bashing-omsudo chmod -R a+rwX,o-w /home/$USER23:59
Bashing-omAll directories will be 775.23:59
Bashing-omAll files will be 664 except those that were set as executable to begin with.23:59
sarnoldDalekSec: no, the latter. note /lastlog aegis is *many* ping timeouts23:59

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