=== Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB [00:49] hi! how can my bash script query what text is in a specific part of another program's status bar (e.g. VLC playback speed, LibreDraw zoom level)? they run as the same user on the same X display. can it register as an accessibility helper program or sth.? can I access their memory directly since it runs as the same user? (probably the most brittle approach though) [00:49] looking for approaches that work on xenial or bionic, amd64 [01:05] HOw do I browse network in Nautilus? I have tried the "+ Other Locations" option but it will not allow me to browse smb://xyz/ or smb://IP The "Connect" button remains greyed out all the time. [01:07] I figured it out... cannot do it using sudo nautilus. As soon as I drop to normal user it works. === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:47] hello [02:49] welcome loganlee [02:49] hi [02:49] how can we help you today loganlee ? [02:50] just chillin' man [03:28] Damn. Ubuntu really is annoying when you install it to an hdd. When the hdd is doing alot of work, youtube videos and even the mouse sometimes begin to stutter for 1-2sec every 10seconds or so. Is the default scheduler not good for hdds or something or is it because i encrypted it? (using 19.04) [03:30] (i think i'm going to buy a SSD for ubuntu this week anyway and clone it there, so more a question out of curiosity) [03:31] i guess it depends on your hardware, choose a lighter desktop? [03:32] some GPUs will not play youtube flawlessly [03:32] !flavors [03:32] Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [03:37] does latest ubuntu support finger print sensor in laptop? [03:39] all ubuntu versions do, it depends on the fingerprint gui and supported chips [03:40] https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui and the rest of chips on https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html [03:40] not yet for EOAN, i see [03:42] Frommhold: spinner hd's + gnome3 bit of bottleneck [03:42] IDE spinners surely [03:44] gonna try bfq scheduler soon, maybe it will work better then, lets see... definetely not a cpu/ram/gpu issue, more than enough for gnome3. [03:45] god, HDDs are annoying once you are used to a SSD, it's like hell. [03:45] yes, slower menus .. [03:46] Frommhold: id go for what OerHeks suggests, lightweight flavour, lubuntu/xubuntu [03:50] the latest version of lubuntu looks great [03:52] 2 days until 19.10 will be released, you can test the releasecandidate today, that would be appreciated [03:53] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/407/builds [03:59] lotuspsychje, yeah, you are right. Installed lxde and tested playing youtube there while writing a tempfile with dd, not a single stutter, filemanager etc took ages to load, so hdd was @ 100% i guess, but alot smoother there. I guess my only option is to buy a second SSD for ubuntu, cause i really like gnome3 :) [04:00] (the vanilla version, not ubuntu-desktop) [04:25] Frommhold: its possible to tweak gnome to the extreme also to make it more lightweight, installing: preload, haveged,bleachbit the system, tweak systemd services, disable unwanted startup items, disable animations,.. [04:57] hmmmm [04:57] whats wrong loganlee [04:58] nothing man [05:05] i remember the days when i plug in a usb stick and i had to manually mount it [05:05] we've came a long way [05:05] come to #ubuntu-discuss if you like loganlee [05:06] im fine thx [05:12] What a shitty world now become, because of this ' sudo ' bug. doing admin tasks without separate admin password were always problematic and now it seems it is truly bad with this bug. https://thehackernews.com/2019/10/linux-sudo-run-as-root-flaw.html [05:12] !language | nikolam and offtopic [05:12] nikolam and offtopic: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [05:12] I am sorry for my language. [05:13] But I think it is on topic, since ubuntu surely also shipped 'sudo' with this bug for years. [05:13] nikolam: its not, this channel is for supporting issues only, join #ubuntu-discuss instead please [05:16] nikolam, just update, fix is released. and it is not ubuntu only.. [05:16] Yes, I got update now for sudo, it's in the updates. === jje_ is now known as jje [06:07] eww, still cannot find out why I don't need to enter password to gpg anymore. I feel unsafe ... [06:33] amosbird, it would be more safe if you enter som other password but your own for login. You can set for your home directory to be encrypted, during account creation. [06:36] but the question of isolation of apps is valid, I for sure, use password for getting remembered passwords in Firefox password manager. Maybe you can digg if that is upstream change or Ubuntu protects them some other way. but I surely know that my Firefox password and it's cypher is not particularly strong one. [06:37] How do I install amdgpu pro driver on 19.04 ? [06:37] nikolam: The question is , I'd like to know who is keeping my password [06:37] The_LoudSpeaker, I wonder, is there a particular reason to install and use Pro driver with proprietary parts, instead of AMD's open one? [06:39] amosbird, good question, maybe good enough to create bug report to get clarification. I think there are GNOME tools in the background, managing that for apps. [06:40] nikolam: I have radeon R7 series gpu which needs amdgpu pro afaik. [06:41] afaik pro version is optional and for some proprietary features not found in AMD's open driver. [06:41] How do I install the open one btw? [06:42] if your card is capable, amdgpu is already running, and amdgpu-pro is on their website [06:44] I don't see amdgpu running when I search using ps and grep [06:44] OerHeks: ^ [06:48] lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga # would show [06:54] anybody here familiar with ubuntu server, aws, and lamp stack type stuff? I am kinda stuck. I have been following this tutorial and everything works except for the php.info portion at the end: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu [06:54] Ultimately I am wanting to install tiny rss on this thing and get the most out of my free tier usage. [06:56] dCLCp, after edit, did you restart apache? [06:57] sudo systemctl restart apache2 [06:57] yup [06:57] it serves up a blank page in firefox and error 500 in chrome [06:57] the test page works fine but not the php script. [06:59] been trying to do the same thing on a virtual box image but that isn't working hardly at all for I suspect a whole different can of worms (networking stuff) [06:59] can't even get that to serve up a test page. [06:59] OerHeks: It shows only my Intel uhd graphics 620 driver. [07:00] I'm trying to install lvm2 in a chroot and it's stuck. Where do I start [07:01] jerichowasahoax`, have you tried turning it off and on again? [07:01] dCLCp: this would be attempt six. [07:01] have I tried turning it off and on again... [07:02] I can't just boot into the system - root is on an LVM volume, which the initrd doesn't support because lvm2 wasn't installed when it was generated [07:02] chicken, meet egg. [07:03] (I was mostly joking I really am probably less qualified than anyone in here to help anyone with anything) [07:06] huh. so I rebooted and that broke everything lol [07:07] it unstuck! [07:12] patience worked at last :) [07:14] ok... [07:14] let's try this again [07:18] ok so now the apache page isn't showing up after reboot lol [07:20] bouncer works though so it's not the machine [07:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GKmnjmmBs/ <------ i would like to understand what that managed=false means [07:51] hello all [07:51] on 14.04 where are default apache error files housed [07:51] apache2+ [07:52] Haris: are you paying for ESM support? [07:52] no [07:52] this is one box I haven't migrated off of yet [07:52] 14.04 is dead, no support. [07:52] its a standard location. nothing custom which requires thinking [07:52] oh, why do you need error files then? [07:52] I'm having a strange affect [07:53] yeah, you are vulnerable. good luck then [07:53] apache2 is logging 200 in log at my end. but remote end is getting 403 in raw manual telnet hit [07:54] I want to confirm if the error detail being sent is standard from apache or a possible proxy at remote end [07:54] apache2+ [07:54] Haris: did you read what OerHeks just said? [07:54] yes. every word [07:54] its not in my control [07:54] end of life= no support [07:55] and I said its nothing that is custom or complex or anything. its just a path [07:55] Haris: we advise you to install a supported version of ubuntu, from the topic [07:56] Haris: backups & configs from an eol version, will be your task [07:56] how does one tell if there is a proxy or mitm thingy going on. [07:56] https://i.stack.imgur.com/wt4EE.png <---- what's this icon means? I got that too [07:57] never seen that icon before? same icon as in the menu, if you hit that icon [07:58] my end web server is logging a different response. remote end is receiving a different response [07:58] OerHeks: no i only do a restart network-manager, ant that's appeared [07:58] Haris: please dont use this channel to describe every step you do, specially from an eol version [07:59] ok [08:00] this is common conceptual stuff. it doesn't specifically fall onto an eol version [08:00] Haris: yes, and it doesnt fit here [08:00] but talking here because many other than me are more experienced [08:00] Haris: i hope you understand we can only support ubuntu related issues, on supported versions and derivatives [08:00] OerHeks: i didn't see with that "x" on bottom right, usually is white [08:01] ofcourse. I agre [08:01] agree+ [08:01] ok so I restarted my aws instance of ubuntu server and now I can't get even the apache test page to show up on this lamp stack I am trying to build. [08:02] Before I couldn't get the php script to load from this tutorial: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu [08:02] so I thought maybe I would restart the vps and see if that helped but now the apache web serving anything I guess? [08:03] I am running a znc bouncer from it so I know it's on and working. I just don't know why apache isn't working or for that matter php. [08:08] maybe phpinfo() is disabled in the php.ini > disable_functions = phpinfo [08:09] i think it should be, for security reasons [08:10] ok but why isn't it serving the apache test page? [08:11] I restarted the service [08:11] It isn't serving anything at all now. [08:13] thank you for help I will try and see if I can find php.ini and see if that is the case. [08:14] tbh I may just go ahead and try to proceed with installing tiny tiny rss without dotting all the t's and checking all the i's I just wanted to make sure I had the prerequisites down first. [09:50] Hi there. I think i've found a bug in lvm/initramfs, but i'm not sure. [09:54] so I dpkg -i two packages where I inadvertently tried to install packages which are the next version up from what installed. This machine is blocked from egress to the Internet. Now when I do apt install -f, instead of politely saying, no-can-do buddy, it wants to remove apt and friends with a huge nasty warning. [09:55] I appreciate the warning, but how can I just revert the dpkg -i on the two debs? [09:55] dpkg -r pkg pkg doesn't seem to work. [09:57] greetings, I'm installing ubuntu on an hp omen laptop. The text of the installation is so small ican't read it. How can I change the font size? [10:14] isomari, at the beginning of the install : F6 nomodeset # might help [10:14] thanks [10:15] and some tips https://jeanbruenn.info/2018/04/01/omen-hp-with-linux/ see blacklisting [10:18] this is my vsftpd.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TgKS2S5cw6/ [10:18] is this correct? i can't connect to my ftp [10:19] I read on engadget that there is a problem with sudo and I should upgrade to 1.8.28 - I am running a fully patched and up-to-daye 18.4.3 LTS and my sudp appears to be 1.8.21 -- what am I missing here [10:21] !latest | jpmh: for general understanding of package versions in ubuntu [10:21] jpmh: for general understanding of package versions in ubuntu: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [10:22] !backports [10:22] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [10:22] jpmh: so security patches are backported, and this is also the case here. since you seem to be interested in following such reports, you may want to subscribe to the announcement mailing list, and read the advisories at https://usn.ubuntu.com (security.ubuntu.com ridirects there if that's easier to remember) [10:23] this also enables you to verify that the version you have installed is patched against a vulnerability discussed there, by inspecting the package version. [10:23] !info sudo bionic [10:23] sudo (source: sudo): Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.8.21p2-3ubuntu1.1 (bionic), package size 420 kB, installed size 1808 kB [10:25] tomreyn: thank you so much = I should have remained confident and ignored endgadget - generally I dont want to have to worry about this stuff which is why my systems are all set to automatically update - there is enough to worry aboiut in our own apps [10:26] to prevent misunderstandings, when i wrote "security patches are backported" i don't mean they land in the "backports" apt repository, but they end up in the ubuntu-updates/-security repositories, which are both enabled by ddefault [10:28] jpmh: great, if you have your systems install security updates automatically then you only need to care about configuring and operating them securely, and about regular reboots (or whenever there are security related kernel or central user space package updates) [10:29] tomreyn: that is what I had hoped - this is why I run ubuntu rather than one of the other distros on my servers [10:29] jpmh: the fix on ubuntu was made 5 days ago [10:30] jeremy31: glad to hear it - although I sure hope that in reality I do not need the oatch at all since no one should be at the shell other than my staff [10:31] jeremy31: it appears from the logs that I am correct in my assumption too - we run public-key second factor and limit the ip addresses for connections, and monitr the logs [10:47] <_divzero> Wotcha. If you're wanting to build a kernel from the Ubuntu git repository following the docs at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel, can anyone tell me what the "ubuntu" way to just build modules only is? i.e. their equivalent of "make -j4 -C $PWD M=$PWD/path/to/modules" ? Ive tried doing it the "normal" way but the source tree throws up errors so I assume there's some ubuntu specific preparatory step I need to follow? [10:56] tommy``, still problems with your vsftpd? [10:56] yes DarkTrick [10:57] tommy``, How do you connect to it? [10:57] nautilus? [10:57] i made some changes to the .conf but still issues... i'm using filezilla [10:57] how = which tool do you use? [10:57] filezilla FTP with TLS [10:57] does it give you any error on connect? [10:58] wait a sec.... maybe something changed [11:00] DarkTrick: so now filezilla seems can't do LIST of FTP directory [11:00] connection with TLS is ok [11:00] i got "server doesn't support ASCII" [11:03] DarkTrick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VVQTSrYkYy/ new .conf [11:15] tommy``, just out of curiosity: why don't you enable utf8? [11:16] DarkTrick: in .conf file? I didn't see that option, where is it? [11:16] sec [11:17] #ascii_download_enable=YES <-----? [11:17] tommy``, utf8_filesystem=YES [11:17] tbh, I never saw your error. But ASCII-problems look like some encoding problem [11:18] encoding? [11:18] the fact, that you can't use LIST, might be a permission problem? [11:18] does your use have read permission on the directory? [11:19] @encoding: how letters are represented or which numbers (as the computer only knows numbers) correspond to which letter [11:19] e.g. 65 for A or 97 for a [11:20] sudo chown ftpuser:ftpuser /home/ftpuser/ftp/files i have done this and sudo chmod a-w /home/ftpuser/ftp [11:20] so its like --rx-rx-rx ? [11:21] sec [11:21] a = all/everyone - = remove w = write permission, so, remove write permissions for everyone no? [11:22] can you do `ls -l /home/ftpuser/ftp` ? [11:22] sry [11:22] can you do `ls -l /home/ftpuser` ? [11:22] you should see something like "--rx-rx-rx" then [11:23] -rw-r--r-- [11:23] mmh [11:23] remove the w for testing [11:23] sudo chmod u-w /home/ftpuser/ftp [11:23] should do it [11:23] the server want binary mode instead of ASCII [11:24] derpadmin, this would be a setting in filezilla, right? [11:24] correct [11:24] you can send the mode binary command to the server [11:25] ok fine, what is the server? [11:26] and what mode is it configured? active vs passive [11:26] ok i changed chmod but still no result, can't do LIST [11:26] tommy``, you could do: Filezilla->Transfer->Transfer type->Binary [11:26] yes, but the list issue seems to be an active/passive thing [11:27] mmh ok [11:27] is it active or passive? [11:27] Howdy folks [11:27] i have pasv_enable yes [11:27] pasv_enable=YES pasv_min_port=49152 pasv_max_port=49154 [11:28] those are both on router and ufw [11:28] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ftp+active+vs+passive&t=ffsb&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldofintegration.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fpictures_for_content%2FWOI_protocols%2FFTP_Passive.jpg [11:28] 49152:49154/tcp ALLOW Anywher [11:29] ok, so server get to choose the port [11:29] return it to the client [11:29] you are using vsftpd? [11:29] yes [11:30] here are my notes [11:30] https://200013.net/doc/LINUX/ftp+ftps/vsftpd.txt [11:30] chroot_list_enable=YES <---- i haven't this [11:32] add it [11:33] Error GnuTLS -15: An unexpected TLS packet was received. [11:33] that from filezilla [11:33] this is a new error? [11:34] yes [11:34] after activating list enable [11:34] ok, so this one is a TLS issue it seems [11:34] you want the server to be 100% TLS [11:34] ? [11:34] gnome-control center looks like this for me on 18.04... what do I check? [11:34] https://ibb.co/zQVpb73 [11:35] derpadmin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZYrBQkzP4h/ i have this [11:37] you try to log anon or with user pass? [11:37] login is ftpuser and pass is the pass of ftpuser [11:38] ok, let me read the man :) [11:38] ok [11:38] force_local_logins_ssl=YES and then ssl_sslv2=NO ssl_sslv3=NO ... interesting [11:39] I think you can add ssl_enable=YES [11:39] i have [11:39] and remove force_local_logins_ssl [11:39] ok, I did not see it in your paste [11:40] wwhhoo [11:40] i repast all [11:40] rsa_cert_file and rsa_private_key_file are the same file [11:40] no bueno [11:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Sx3SQPqRwr/ [11:41] key needs to be key [11:41] cert needs to be vert [11:41] cert needs to be cert [11:42] is /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem a key or a cert? [11:42] if it is a cert; this : openssl x509 -text -in /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem should extract the information [11:43] see : https://200013.net/doc/LINUX/openssl/openssl_cli.txt [11:44] yes i can extrat infos [11:44] so it is a certificate [11:44] you need the key in rsa_private_key_file [11:44] where is the key yo? :P [11:44] ahah dunno devil [11:45] how did you create the cert? [11:45] i followed this guide [11:45] https://devanswers.co/installing-ftp-server-vsftpd-ubuntu-18-04/ [11:45] sudo openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem -out /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem [11:46] repalce by : [11:46] sudo openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.key -out /etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.pem [11:46] :) [11:46] done [11:46] and use rsa_private_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/vsftpd.key [11:47] reload/restart vsftpd [11:47] ok [11:47] that guide so is not precise [11:47] a little error :) [11:47] gbellinoz: when did it start looking like this? [11:48] gbellinoz: and what did you do in between? and which ubuntu version are you running (lsb_release -ds)? [11:48] tomreyn: 18.04 (stated above), and nothing "in between". I've never seen it work. [11:49] I don't use gnome desktop ( [11:49] but [11:49] its printer setup widget is sometimes essential! [11:49] CUPS = pain [11:49] gbellinoz: so what do you use? [11:50] nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) [11:50] awesomewm [11:50] but lots of gnome stuff installed because, you know, desktop. [11:50] problem with gnome-control-center but using awesome.. [11:50] why not mentioning that directly? [11:51] yes that would help in the future [11:51] Sure, but it worked under 16.04. [11:51] you can use http://localhost:631 for managing your printers [11:52] cups improved dramaticly in 18.04 [11:52] gbellinoz, try to run it with the gnome env : 'env XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME gnome-control-center' [11:52] ioria: that works! do you know why? [11:52] yes, 'cause of the env [11:53] cool, thanks. [11:53] ok [11:59] I am confused by the many different command line tools to handle wifi connections [12:00] is there any "ubuntu way"? [12:02] giaco, networkmanager and networkmanager-cli [12:15] when is the next lts vesion [12:16] so, I have tried several things on both Ubuntu and Debian for a fast randomization of a hard drive came across this command pv —timer —rate —stop-at-size -s "$(blockdev —getsize64 /dev/sda )" /dev/urandom > /dev/sda , seems 8 times faster than other methods my question is this with the getsize64 whats the maximum sized hard drive that this will work with? [12:17] isomari, next year [12:17] !yy.mm [12:17] Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [12:18] thanks [12:37] OerHeks: thanks [12:40] I' having problems with wifi card [12:41] I see it with lsusb, I see module with lsmod, I see card with iwconfig (unassociated), but sudo iwlist scan returns "wlx24050ff69d6e No scan results" immediatly [12:42] same card is working on other ubuntu boxes, so I don't know what's wrong now [12:42] ubuntu 18.04 [12:42] what does lsusb say about it? [12:43] tomreyn: Bus 002 Device 010: ID 0bda:8812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8812AU 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WLAN Adapter [12:44] tomreyn: lsmod shows 8812au (installed with rtl8812au-dkms) [12:45] wpa-supplicant installed too? [12:46] OerHeks: wpasupplicant is already the newest version (2:2.6-15ubuntu2.5) [12:46] rtl8812au-dkms should provide the r8812au network driver [12:47] but the one you have loaded is 8812au? [12:47] tomreyn: that is what I've installed on other machines to make it work [12:48] can you easily access other systems which work and checkl what lsmod reports there? [12:48] tomreyn: this is lsmod | grep au on non-working machine http://ix.io/1YJh [12:49] okay, so i guess the package description is wrong if it works there using the rtl8812au-dkms package. [12:50] did dkms succeed after you installed rtl8812au-dkms? [12:52] tomreyn: sorry I'm not really into dkms, but isn't the presence of the module signature of a corrent dkms process? [12:53] hmm i guess it must have, otherwise it could not have built the modules. what was logged? systemctl -b | grep 8812au | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:54] sorry, wrong command: journalctl -b | grep 8812au | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:54] I'm summoning --reinstall in rtl8812au-dkms package, I'll post here output [12:54] if you have a different form of internet access, better purge, then install [12:55] tomreyn: apparently dkms performs cleanup automatically [12:56] tomreyn: here http://ix.io/1YJj [12:57] do you run the same vanilla kernel on the other systems? [12:57] tomreyn: yes [12:58] 83 not upgraded... might give a kernel update? [12:58] rmadison suggests the kernel version is the latest [12:59] so check the logs [12:59] see what nmcli says about it [13:00] and yes, install those updates, too, since there can be other relevant updates as well [13:02] giaco, maybe your particular device is not covered by that pkg: update your system and then you can try this : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y5JQRrZJpJ/ [13:02] ioria: as I said that device works on another ubuntu 18.04 with same rtl8812au-dkms package [13:03] ioria: ok, I'll try that immediatly [13:04] compiling ... [13:04] well if it is known that the same device works on other ubuntu 18.04 systems with the rtl8812au-dkms package without further modifications then i would not actually recommend using git repositories. [13:05] the vendor/device id does match the ones rtl8812au-dkms claims to cover (but of course there could be different hardware versions) [13:06] tomreyn: I think so. The module that shows up with lsmod on working-box is 8812au, the one that is compiled with the git tree is named rtl8812au [13:06] btw: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'rtl8812au': Device or resource busy [13:07] O_o [13:08] you'd need to modprobe -vr 8812au beforehand [13:08] that's if you wanted to use the 'rtl8812au' module now [13:09] tomreyn: no, I want to use whatever works. I prefer the one in the ubuntu repo obviusly but I'm just givint this a try to find out if the problem is actually somewhere else [13:10] (non sure if this is worth) [13:10] of this is strange now: sudo modprobe -vr 8812au says modprobe: FATAL: Module 8812au not found. [13:10] but lsmod shows 8812au [13:12] does sudo rmmod -v 8812au report something different? [13:13] tomreyn: that worked [13:14] good. [13:15] ok now I've inserted the module compiled from git [13:17] tomreyn: this is what dmesg reports when inserting the usb card http://ix.io/1YJu [13:18] I feel like back to the starting point: I see it with lsusb, I see module with lsmod, I see card with iwconfig (unassociated), but sudo iwlist scan returns "wlx24050ff69d6e No scan results" [13:19] so apparently both module from ubuntu repo and git tree pointed me to the same stop, so it must be something else [13:20] if possible I would prefer removing the module from git and reinstall the ubuntu one [13:20] do you have any hint on how to perform this operation? [13:21] i'm not sure how to remove the rtl8812au one. it's probably also dkms based? [13:22] dkms status would tell [13:22] if it's listed there, dkms uninstall rtl8812au [13:22] giaco: ^ [13:25] tomreyn: thanks. I've successfully removed git module and reinstalled ubuntu one. Happy about this, but still stuck at first step [13:26] giaco: so show the logs and nmcli output [13:27] journalctl -b | grep 8812au | nc termbin.com 9999; journalctl -b0 -p3 | nc termbin.com 9999; nmcli | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:31] nmcli device show wlx24050ff69d6e 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; rkfill list all 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:36] tomreyn: rfkill list http://ix.io/1YJB [13:37] wake me up when you also got the others [13:39] tomreyn: trying to workaround nmcli as I'm not using networkmanager [13:40] got blue blinking light with sudo ip link set dev wlx24050ff69d6e up [13:41] on every startup, my volume control doesn't work, because the audio device is set to (usb) headphones, yet the audio comes out my motherboard sound card line out through my speakers. I have to go change the audio output device to something else back to line out to get it to control my speakers correctly [13:41] is that a known bug? [13:43] doug16k: known bugs are bugs which have been filed on launchpad. [13:46] oh that site where you file bugs and they sit there for years? ok thanks [13:46] they won't vanish at launchpad [13:47] just get fixed. or not, if the report is of no use [13:48] I have filed bugs where the repro is just install the package. zero replies [13:50] doug16k, I even posted patches for problems that several people had, no reactions either. the main freedom of free software is you can spend your own free time to fix it. ;) [13:50] I have contributed to open source projects, such as blender, and qemu [13:51] and the general computer support problem, once it works, people immediately move on with that they really wanted to do, and won't go back to the thread to give feedback. [13:52] doug16k, as for the real problem: would it help to disable the mainboard audio? [13:53] I need both, I don't use headphones unless I want to be quiet or skype [13:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1631161 (reported 2016) [13:58] Launchpad bug 1631161 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Preferred output device is not remembered between logins" [High,Confirmed] [14:03] tags: added: rls-ee-notfixing [14:03] notfixing. ok then [14:04] that's what you'd expect from a confirmed "high importance" bug I guess [14:05] doug16k: this is not the right channel to report back your feelings about bug triage [14:05] just explaining why I think it is futile to report bugs on launchpad [14:07] I'll put up with it. thanks [14:27] does anyone know why systemctl stop gdm wouldn't kill X in ubuntu 18.04? i'm running a manually installed NVIDIA driver with WaylandEnabled=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf .. right now i systemctl set-default multi-user.target and reboot to kill gdm/X :( [14:51] vostok4: Are you sure you don't have multiple X? [15:13] if I needed to update a systemd script for a particular service, where woudl I find them? [15:15] tinyhippo, 'systemctl edit' [15:15] perfect, thanks lordcirth === dax changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 16.04, 18.04, 19.04 | Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here. | IRC info: https://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Download: https://ubottu.com/y/dl | Release partying: #ubuntu-release-party === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL [16:42] where can i see a startup log so i can see why my install (19.04) is staring so slowly? [16:43] duncan-nz: can you pastebin: systemd-analyze blame && systemd-analyze critical-chain please [16:45] lotuspsychje, hi, here s the info: https://pastebin.com/C1TPF5mG [16:47] duncan-nz: yeah, plymouth, apt and logrotate top3 taking pretty long so it seems [16:48] It doesn't seem to have run critical-chain? [16:49] duncan-nz: can you repaste: systemd-analyze critical-chain [16:50] sorry, here's the full text: https://pastebin.com/nFLNSdNH [16:50]