[00:35] <jabber> If I install a debian package that i've downloaded off a web page is it installed differently that if I use apt-get?
[00:51] <airmen55> Could some kind user walk me (71yo raf vetern-) thru how to find wifi signals and then connect to them with kubuntu.. I have been trying foe a week+ usung google etc but have found no way to get the thing to show me a list of available wlan's
[00:53] <airmen55> I am a pro- democracy polit. activist who get's attacked a lot over win 10 despite use sometimes of airvpn which does not allow one ..correction: amazon does not tollerate use of vpn for example..
[00:54] <airmen55> if *you* don't have interest or patience for such help - perhap others here do?
[00:58] <airmen55> Of course at my desk I can take the workstation and use that (like right now-) for kubuntu on the laptop.. this does not help me when out and about..le out of the ethernet cab
[00:59] <airmen55> sorry this bluetooth keyboard jumps all over the plce sometimes - back along the line of text already entered..
[01:01] <airmen55> time in he usa - i
[01:07] <airmen55_> thanks a load...
[01:09] <airmen55_> soll ich lieber Deutsch schreiben - mem par Francaise.. is languaage the problem?
[01:10] <airmen55_> wa anna takalem Arabie.. this kid from a small town in SW England spent enough time in the ME yemen for example,,.
[01:10] <airmen55_> Hij Sadik ?
[01:11] <airmen55_> wa anna Ragil sl Kittab..
[01:12] <airmen55_> so religeonlem? I follow judaism/christianity and islam is perhaps the prob
[01:12] <airmen55_> I refuse to give up on Humanity!! Basta. Punkt/Period.
[01:13] <airmen55_> so back to nowtime! any help with use of wifi/wlan on kubuntu??
[01:15] <airmen55_> whT ARE YOU FOLKS SO SKARED OF.. OR WHY SO SILENT.. WE HAVE A R E M A I N D E R OF D_EMOCRACY IN THE WESTERN COUNTRIES -STILL-
[01:16] <airmen55_> *cosmic top - IN CLEAR*
[01:16] <airmen55_>  THERE NSA AND GCHQ AND PERHAPS THE GRU AND CHINEESE SERVICES!!!
[01:17] <airmen55_> s n o w d o n live!
[01:17] <airmen55_> e e e lives!
[01:26] <airmen55_> wow  A lot of "different" users - all called -tilde-Quassel@-varying servers etc<
[01:27] <airmen55_> so if weej try and ignore the geeks and gooks - is anybody else left in the kosmos?
[01:28] <airmen55_> --or in that (conceptually-) other one called     universe?
[01:30] <airmen55> n oh man soooo many   u s e r s who have been all online since 9-10-19
 airmen55, still here?
 @RikMills, How to become a beta tester
 Is there any chance of countering major bugs like wipe of windows partition automatically in a dual boot scenario
[06:26] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:28] <lordievader> princeofclay: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam and keep an eye on the QATracker (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker)
 @princeofclay, Test and report the bugs you find.
[06:34] <lordievader> As a general tip, get familiar with running (multiple) virtual machines.
 @lordievader, 👍🏻
 @lordievader, 👍🏻
 @lordievader, 👍🏻 👍🏻
 @RikMills, So just download and report? Ok
 @lordievader, Yep, parallel booting consumes a lot of space
 @princeofclay, You can talk to us as well via here, or IRC or mailing lists. Bug reports are vital though
[07:50] <lordievader> RikMills, is #kubuntu-dev(el?) still a thing?
[07:50] <RikMills> lordievader: IRC? #kubuntu-devel is still there
[07:51] <lordievader> Cool. Perhaps that is a better channel for priceofclay to talk about bugs?
[07:52] <RikMills> Not via telegram though. That is invite only
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:05] <otomo> hi!, does Kubuntu 19.10 will be released today or it will arrive in the coming days? Thanks
 should be today. new ISOs are just being ready to test for release
[13:14] <mparillo> [09:00] [Notice] -queuebot to #ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[14:38] <otomo> thanks!
 It's not out yet
[16:04] <mparillo> Correct, but you can test the current release candidate: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/407/builds/201242/testcases
[16:12] <user|60142> hello
 Hello. Will I find the 19.10 release on discover, when it's out?
 Hey Guys, … Does anybody know how to prevent 'Discover' from installing a 'Plasma Addons'?   … I've installed the 'Inspiration' them for all categories (Look and Feel, Window Decoration, SDDM Theme, etc) … The issue is that Discover always says theres an update for this theme.  No matter how many times I continue to update it.  … I've tried to uninstall it, some of the addons uninstall, but some don't.  So I'm wondering If I 
 Kubuntu 18.04.3 with Plasma 5.12.9 from the main repositories btw.
 @zparihar, I don't now of a way in Discover itself but if you are comfortable doing so you can use apt-mark in a terminal to hold a package from being updated. It won't show updates for any packages you flag this way, which can be good and bad depending on how important they are. The syntax is `sudo apt-mark hold [package name]`
 I'm quite familiar with apt, but I believe the source is from 'KNewStuff' and not the apt/flatpak/snap repos
 @ericadams, I'm quite familiar with apt, but I believe the source is from 'KNewStuff' and not the apt/flatpak/snap repos
 Ah, ok. Not something I'm familiar with.
 @ericadams, np!
 How do you guys update Telegram on Kubuntu?
 @Shreddies, It is in the repo but not the latest version. You can download and run the  Linux 64 bit binary directly or there is a flatpak or snap as well.
 I'm running 1.5.11-1 on 19.04 and it seems to work fine.
[23:10] <valorie> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1184969842937327617
[23:10] <valorie> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-19-10-is-released-today/
[23:11] <frezer-02> Still cannot updgrade from 19.04 to the newest versions using "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop"
[23:14] <tomreyn> frezer-02: this can take some days or a week, it's not enabled, yet
[23:16] <frezer-02> Ok, so I will wait. Thanks for the info i was worried that something was broken with my instalation