[00:27] <popey> huh. that'll be why, they went to get the theme. and it pulled in other crap
[00:27] <popey> thanks
[00:29] <popey> (I filed on behalf of someone else)
[06:06] <didrocks> good morning
[06:11] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:13] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:14] <oSoMoN> happy release day!
[06:17] <didrocks> hey duflu, oSoMoN
[06:17] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[06:18] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:18] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[06:18] <duflu> Triangle completed
[06:18] <oSoMoN> :)
[06:19] <oSoMoN> ⃤
[06:20] <didrocks> happy release days indeed :)
[06:57] <jibel> hi all
[06:57] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[07:06] <seb128> happy e-day desktopers!
[07:07] <jibel> finally we have our critical bug on release day \o/
[07:07] <jibel> we need one every release otherwise it is not a real release
[07:07] <jibel> bug 1848404
[07:10] <seb128> no-one did a test install trying to connecting to wifi before today?
[07:11] <jibel> install from a live session but not install directly apparently
[07:11] <jibel> must be done on hw too
[07:11] <seb128> I did a such install a week ago on the inspiron without issue
[07:12] <seb128> :(
[07:12] <jibel> then someone  broke it in between
[07:12] <seb128> and why no-one is filing bugs the proper way?
[07:13] <seb128> like using ubuntu-bug
[07:13] <seb128> or at least add logs/journal
[07:14] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[07:14] <jibel> luckliy there were logs in a duplicate
[07:14] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ?
[07:15] <oSoMoN> seb128, ça va, et toi?
[07:15] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça va !
[07:19] <didrocks> salut jibel, seb128
[07:21] <jibel> Salut didrocks, comment vas tu?
[07:23] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[07:25] <jibel> bien bien
[07:28] <seb128> lut didrocks, en forme ?
[07:28] <didrocks> ça va et toi seb128 ?
[07:28] <seb128> ça va :)
[07:28] <seb128> arguing with french trolls on discourse
[07:29] <didrocks> yeah, I know the guy
[07:29] <didrocks> he has the same speech on the french forum
[07:29] <didrocks> and one of the reason I don't answer there much
[07:40] <seb128> 'Their answer is not admissible, I will not change my opinion regarding the use of snaps.'
[07:40] <seb128> let's see if he shuts up now, enough people told him to move to other topics
[07:41] <seb128> I'm sure he can find other things to complain about though :(
[07:41] <didrocks> oh yeah… :)
[07:42] <oSoMoN> such a waste of energy, that could be put to better use…
[07:47] <Trevinho> morning folks!
[07:49] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you? still enjoying Leiden?
[07:49] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[07:49] <seb128> Trevinho, sorry I couldn't join you guys yesterday evening
[07:50] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, yes still here till the afternoon. No worries, was just a relaxed dinner
[07:50] <Trevinho> didrocks: hi!
[07:51] <oSoMoN> morning Trevinho
[07:54] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[07:54] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: hey
[07:56] <Wimpress> Morning desktoppers o/
[07:56] <seb128> hey Wimpress, how are you?
[07:59] <seb128> (and brb, moving back from morning coffee to my desk)
[08:00] <Wimpress> seb128: iso testing until 3am, so a little sleepy.
[08:00] <Wimpress> But looking forward to going to OggCamp tomorrow 🙂
[08:01] <Wimpress> Are you still at the hackfest?
[08:01] <didrocks> Wimpress: he is relocating, but the hackfest is done AFAIK and he's back home
[08:02] <didrocks> and hey :)
[08:04] <Wimpress> Morning didrocks o/
[08:04] <Wimpress> There were some changes to the ZFS implementation yesterday.
[08:04] <Wimpress> didrocks: Have you been brought up to speed?
[08:05] <Wimpress> jibel: You were in the loop, right?
[08:05] <didrocks> Wimpress: yeah, I have been. I'm a little bit concerned that we don't use this "experiment" to… experiment and have more in-the-world details for upstreams
[08:06] <didrocks> because same questions will come up next cycle and it's a LTS
[08:06] <didrocks> I think at least, on the usptream bug, people with those kind of issues should ping them. For them, it seems it's mostly ok since January 2019
[08:06] <didrocks> (as they didn't hear back more news)
[08:07] <Wimpress> Interesting.
[08:07] <jibel> Wimpress, yes I was
[08:07] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson, Wimpress
[08:07] <Wimpress> jibel: We are observing iso boot performance issues.
[08:07] <jibel> Wimpress, IMHO, we must revert this change when 20.04 opens and push upstream to fix it
[08:07] <jibel> re zfs swap
[08:07] <Wimpress> I'm going to share what I learned last night in #ubuntu-release
[08:08] <Wimpress> ack re: ZFS swap
[08:08] <Laney> ahoy
[08:08] <didrocks> Wimpress: some people are talking about slow boot due to N-M potentially
[08:08] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:11] <oSoMoN> ahoy Laney
[08:56] <duflu> Morning other desktoppers
[08:57] <seb128> hey duflu
[08:57] <duflu> I just had a bunch of vaccinations and everyone arrived
[08:57] <duflu> TLDR
[09:00] <Wimpress> o/ duflu
[09:00] <duflu>            \o
[09:37] <willcooke> desktoppers, respins in a few hours and then would like everyone to help with smoke testing so we can try and get the release done asap
[09:38] <willcooke> we'll need to test flavours too
[09:38] <oSoMoN> ack
[09:51] <duflu> willcooke, on the daily-live page? I'll look after dinner
[09:51] <willcooke> thanks duflu, I'll post a link as soon as its there
[09:51] <Wimpress> Ready to assist.
[09:52] <willcooke> thanks Wimpress
[09:59] <jibel> any ETA?
[09:59] <willcooke> new casper is building atm
[09:59] <willcooke> then ~ 2 hrs for respins
[14:08] <willcooke> ready for testing all y'all
[14:10] <willcooke> desktoppers ^
[14:11] <marcustomlinson> cool! will spin up a vm now
[14:14] <willcooke> please test the flavours too.  We're getting good coverage on Ubuntu desktop, but if we can tick off the flavours in good time we can release sooner
[14:16] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: ok dumb question: where do I download the final iso from?
[14:16] <willcooke> marcustomlinson, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/407/builds/201243/testcases
[14:17] <marcustomlinson> oh it is there
[14:17] <willcooke> There's a link on that page
[14:17] <willcooke> :)
[14:17] <jibel> marcustomlinson, or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/pending/
[14:18] <didrocks> I guess we all have some kind of rsync scripts for daily. That should be shared :)
[14:20] <jibel> git clone https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-tools
[14:20] <jibel> cd dl-ubuntu-test-iso
[14:22] <jibel> then ./dl-ubuntu-test-iso --release=eoan --build=pending --flavor=ubuntu --variant=desktop
[14:22] <jibel> wil download latest desktop image
[14:22] <didrocks> waow, in python, fancy :)
[14:22] <jibel> works with all the flavors and arches too
[14:22] <jibel> or should
[14:22] <jibel> patches accepted
[14:22] <didrocks> and without arg, it's taking the latest "default"?
[14:22] <jibel> without args it downloads everything iirc
[14:22] <didrocks> heh, I have my own script (which supports flavors/arch), but I guess I can have a look to contribute to it
[14:23] <mgedmin> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-tools/tree/dl-ubuntu-test-iso/README mentions --flavor and --arch
[14:27] <jibel> didrocks, when I said everything I meant everything including all the flavors and arch
[14:28] <didrocks> yeah, got it, which is too much for the default "simple" use case, but a small wrapper is fine then to decide on the default parameters I guess
[14:32] <jibel> didrocks, you can use a config file to define the defaults
[14:33] <didrocks> oh perfect!
[14:33] <didrocks> (almost, needs to generate the $latest_dev by default)
[14:37] <hellsworth> good morning folks
[14:40] <willcooke> hi hellsworth
[14:40] <willcooke> hellsworth, today is a great day for ISO testing :)
[14:40] <willcooke> as soon as we have them all ticked off we can start the release
[14:41] <didrocks> hey hellsworth
[14:41] <hellsworth> ok! i could use a break from the build snap failures anyways :)
[14:42] <willcooke> :)
[15:03] <willcooke> seeing lots of OOM issues in Virtualbox.  Don't forget to give yourself enough RAM :)
[15:03] <willcooke> took me a while to work out what was going on there
[15:04]  * ogra sends willcooke two bars of virtual corsair DRAM
[15:04]  * willcooke prints them out 
[15:09] <jibel> latest build LGTM
[15:09] <willcooke> \m/
[15:09] <jibel> ubuntu I mean
[15:09] <willcooke> nearly done with my tests
[15:09] <willcooke> hellsworth, if you didnt start already, could you look at xubuntu?
[15:10] <jibel> oem, zfs, non-zfs, uefi/sb, legacy, guided and manual partitioning, vmware they all passed
[15:11] <hellsworth> sure
[15:12] <willcooke> oem mode is working
[15:12] <hellsworth> no links: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/404/builds/200969/downloads
[15:13] <hellsworth> oh sorry. i think you meant Xubuntu Desktop amd64
[15:13] <willcooke> correction: oem mode is not working
[15:14] <willcooke> jibel, could you test OEM mode?  It was looking fine, and then for some reason the keyboard stopped working when I was setting up the new users after oem preparation had done
[15:15] <willcooke> I can enter a password, but not a name, username or machine name
[15:15] <willcooke> maybe thats normal?!
[15:15] <willcooke> nope
[15:16] <willcooke> I can tab between the fields, so the kbd is working
[15:18] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: I saw that too, was updating VMWare to see if it was that
[15:19] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: but I was just doing a normal install
[15:19] <marcustomlinson> VMWare easy install works so there's that at least
[15:24] <marcustomlinson> ok can enter name and username this time... odd
[15:24] <willcooke> just retrying here
[15:28] <marcustomlinson> is my name allowed to be an emoji? :D
[15:29] <willcooke> ha, please don't test that
[15:29] <willcooke> if we don't test it, it can't fail
[15:29] <willcooke> XD
[15:33] <hellsworth> on the first page of the xubuntu installer (where it says "try ubuntu"), there's a link for the release notes that takes you to the wrong place. how do i file a minor bug about this? i've only filed bugs with ubuntu-bug
[15:35] <hellsworth> i guess i can just take note of it and then file ubuntu-bug once i've gone through the install
[15:37] <willcooke> hmm, that might be against ubiquity-slideshow
[15:37] <hellsworth> ok thanks
[15:41] <willcooke> oem worked this time
[15:45] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: yeah I definitely saw what you described too, but on a normal install
[15:45] <marcustomlinson> also, hooray for emoji names
[15:45] <marcustomlinson> works just fine
[15:47] <hellsworth> willcooke, "(If on a 'laptop') Is plugged to a power source" is not listed in regular gnome ubuntu or xubuntu. so maybe we should remove it from the test cases: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/404/builds/201243/testcases/1301/results and http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/404/builds/201239/testcases/1301/results
[15:48] <willcooke> hellsworth, yeah all the tests need a refresh really.  Dont worry about it for now
[15:48] <willcooke> but if you remember next cycle and have time....
[15:49] <hellsworth> :)
[15:59]  * hellsworth needs a second laptop for testing
[16:00] <willcooke> marking desktop ready!
[16:00] <willcooke> \o/
[16:00] <willcooke> congrats all
[16:01] <hellsworth> what about xubuntu testing tho?
[16:02] <willcooke> once all the tests are done we can mark it ready
[16:02] <willcooke> I was just talking about "our" desktop
[16:02] <marcustomlinson> :)
[16:02] <marcustomlinson> nice
[16:03] <willcooke> looks like xubuntu is nearly there too, thanks hellsworth sil2100
[16:04] <marcustomlinson> I'll try wrap up the last 2 on kubuntu
[16:06] <willcooke> nice one, thanks marcustomlinson
[16:22] <hellsworth> i see in the test comments "VB" - what does this mean?
[16:22] <hellsworth> varied behavior?
[16:24] <hellsworth> very boring?
[16:24] <hellsworth> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/404/builds/201239/testcases/1300/results
[16:25] <hellsworth> vampire baby?
[16:27] <ogra> you got it !
[16:48] <willcooke> verified bug?
[16:49] <willcooke> guessing though
[16:52] <hellsworth> i got like 3 more bugs to file. not sure if any of these are xubuntu oem specific though
[16:54] <willcooke> hellsworth, re: #1848542  I think we've fixed this now via a wiki redirect.  Not going to mark the bug as fixed though as I'm not 100% certain.
[16:54] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/1848542
[16:56] <hellsworth> yep
[16:57] <hellsworth> also: if pull updates on install is unselected it pulls updates anyways
[16:57] <hellsworth> also: if pull updates on install is unselected and install 3rd party is selected, ubi-partman crashes
[16:57] <hellsworth> also: when prompted for authentication (trying to file ubuntu-bug), enter correct pw but it's rejected with no error. enter wrong password and it's rejected with “Your authentication attempt was unsuccessful. Please try again” . enter correct pw again and it's accepted.
[16:58] <hellsworth> i'll get to filing these here after my 1:1
[16:58] <hellsworth> and i'd like to test with regular ubuntu desktop iso too. Those three were found with xubuntu oem install
[17:25] <willcooke> And we're done. Congratulations everyone, and thank you.
[17:26]  * willcooke -> pub
[17:27] <hellsworth> cheers!
[17:55] <kenvandine> woot
[18:01] <hellsworth> when you type `lsb_release -rb` on an xubuntu system, shouldn't it say XUbuntu rather than Ubuntu?
[18:01] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson, are you still around and still have a kubuntu system up? i wonder what lsb_release -rb says on that....
[18:21] <seb128> congrats desktopers on the 19.10 release!
[18:23] <ogra> +1
[18:26] <kenvandine> +1
[18:35] <hellsworth> yay!
[19:19] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, in a kubuntu VM, the distributor ID is still "Ubuntu"
[19:22] <hellsworth> ah ok thx
[19:59] <Wimpress> Congratulations on another fine release desktoppers 🙂👍
[20:00] <Trevinho> yeah
[20:04] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, here in case you want to start early
[21:39] <Fudge> anyone want some work willing to work with our project getting working images using livebuild
[22:22] <Fudge> or familiar enough to mentor or answer questions here and there