[00:00] <infinity> Wimpress: I'm still mildly annoyed at upstream docs that say "if you want to swap with ZFS, we recommend you do it this way[1] ... [1] PS, if you do it this way and actually end up using swap, you'll have a very bad day".
[00:01] <infinity> Like, thanks guys.  Super helpful.
[00:04] <mwhudson> so you're fine to have swap on zfs so long as you never swap anything out?
[00:08] <popey> ok, discourse and ubuntu-quality list, and some social nonsense done to raise awareness
[00:08] <Wimpress> infinity: Yes. Good news is that Open ZFS have reschedule some of their monthly calls so we can particpate.
[00:09] <Wimpress> Hopefully this will lead to catching this kind of thing earlier and getting clarity on best practisee.
[00:10] <popey> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Nw1YFPcv/Now.%20We%20wait.
[00:10] <tumbleweed> vorlon: it's in ubuntu-dev-tools 0.174, which is in Debian, but not Ubuntu
[00:10] <Wimpress> ZFS and nvidia looking good here.
[00:10] <Wimpress> nvidia install online/offline and with/without updates.
[00:12] <vorlon> tumbleweed: <nod>
[00:13] <vorlon> tumbleweed: and Ubuntu has a revert of ubuntu-dev-tools with very little explanation of what had broken
[00:13] <vorlon> well, there's a linked bug, I guess I should read that
[00:14] <tumbleweed> python 3 port. pbuilder-dist was broken, I think
[00:14] <tumbleweed> 0.174 should fix all of that
[00:32] <infinity> Maybe I should stop mindlessly rebuilding lubuntu until the Task header in the archive is updated to match the seeds.  *sigh*
[00:41] <coreycb> hi release folks we have just one more openstack package in the unapproved queue, zvmcloudconnector, if anyone has a chance for a look
[00:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[01:18] <bluesabre> Do we have a feel for when the release will drop tomorrow? Any major blockers or are things looking pretty smooth?
[01:18] <bluesabre> (coordinating folks to push the release buttons on the xubuntu website) :)
[01:40] <guiverc> bluesabre, "infinity> .. I'm anxious to release in about 11.5 hours, give or take. .."  (said a bit under 2 hrs ago)
[01:40] <bluesabre> Thanks guiverc :)
[02:10] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1848404
[02:10] <Wimpress> infinity: ^
[02:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: geomview (eoan-proposed/universe) [1.9.5-2ubuntu1 => 1.9.5-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[02:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted geomview [sync] (eoan-proposed) [1.9.5-3]
[03:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zvmcloudconnector [source] (eoan-proposed) [2.0.0~b1~git2019062011.4fc9142.really.1.4.1-0ubuntu2]
[03:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected pyudev [sync] (eoan-proposed) [0.21.0-2]
[03:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected hugin [sync] (eoan-proposed) [2019.0.0+dfsg-4]
[03:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[03:41] <Eickmeyer> ^But based on Wimpress's bug, I smell a respin.
[04:12] <pieq> Eickmeyer, I'm not sure if the aforementioned bug is seen only on Ubuntu MATE or not
[04:14] <pieq> Eickmeyer, I'll check on the latest 19.10 ubuntu image later
[04:21] <ginggs> would someone please 'force-badtest rapmap/0.14.1+dfsg-2/arm64 rapmap/0.14.1+dfsg-2/ppc64el' ? it no longer builds on those architectures
[04:33] <Eickmeyer> pieq: If it requires a fix to Ubiquity, then Ubuntu Studio is affected since it'll have to be re-tested.
[05:08] <vorlon> ginggs: can do; but should rapmap-dev and rapmap-example-data also be made Architecture: amd64 instead?
[05:10] <jibel> I confirmed bug 1848404
[05:11] <jibel> pieq, ^
[05:18] <jibel> it happens only in "install ubuntu" mode, ie not from a live session
[06:05] <pieq> jibel, salut ! Did you try that on Ubuntu? I'm about to checkl
[06:11] <RikMills> jibel: related? #1848413
[06:11] <RikMills> LP: #1848413
[06:11] <RikMills> maybe just not a crasher with KDE?
[06:13] <RikMills> looks that way to me
[06:21] <pieq> jibel, I confirm the issue also happens on 19.10
[06:25] <pieq> jibel, there are a bunch of issues open with the same problem: lp:1848404 , lp:1848413 , lp:1848405
[06:55] <jibel> pieq, yes on ubuntu
[06:55] <jibel> RikMills, yes
[06:56] <jibel> although I saw this bug only in "install ubuntu" mode
[06:56] <jibel> not from a live session, but maybe on kubuntu it's different
[06:59] <pieq> jibel, when you were on live session, did you activate the wifi connection prior to start the installation process?
[06:59] <RikMills> jibel: they say "Choose the install option (vs Live booting)" which I take to mean in the install k/ubuntu not live
[07:02] <jibel> pieq, no
[07:03] <jibel> I don't know what "vs live booting" means exactly. I supposed it meant they booted to a live session
[07:03] <pieq> jibel, ok. Secure Boot On/Off has no impact on my device
[07:03] <jibel> hold on
[07:03] <pieq> (I mean no impact on the bug outcome, it happens in both cases)
[07:03] <RikMills> vs = instead of
[07:04] <jibel> ok
[07:06] <pieq> jibel, indeed, in a live session it works, no matter if you connected to a WiFi before starting the install process or not
[07:06] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, anybody to process this removal already done in Debian please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/htslib/+bug/1828409
[07:10] <jibel> pieq, have you seen bug 1848142 ?
[07:10] <jibel> pieq, it's with secure boot on. It happened to me once but cannot reproduce it
[07:11] <pieq> jibel, I have never seen this
[07:12] <pieq> jibel, what options did you use for this install? erase whole disk? encryption?
[07:12] <jibel> entire disk, no encryption
[07:12] <pieq> jibel, also, what exactly happens? the install completes, ask you to reboot, and then it crashes?
[07:12] <jibel> third party drivers
[07:12] <jibel> yes, the install completes, there is just a crash dialog when you boot the session for the first time
[07:12] <pieq> no encryption on a laptop! living the life! 😎
[07:13] <pieq> ;)
[07:13] <pieq> jibel, and if you reboot, does it work or it still shows the crash dialog?
[07:14] <jibel> the system works, and the apport dialog it just displayed once (on purpose)
[07:14] <pieq> jibel, since you activated 3rd party drivers, did you get to enroll the MOK keys?
[07:14] <jibel> yes
[07:15] <pieq> jibel, ok, sorry for the dumb questions, I'm trying to reproduce the same steps here :)
[07:16] <jibel> heh, np
[07:24] <pieq> jibel, can't reproduce it here either... weird
[07:48] <infinity> jibel et al: Is this wifi dialog crash new overnight (seems unlikely?) or did we really just not have anyone test that path until ~12h before release?
[07:48] <jibel> not tested I'd say
[07:50] <jibel> infinity, seb128 said he tested a week ago and it worked
[07:50] <jibel> I've a week old build here and there is still a 2 days old build on cdimage.u.c
[07:50] <jibel> I'll try both
[07:59] <guiverc> infinity, jibel your recent wifi talk (week ago etc) in lp 1848333 reporter/OP said no issue 9 days ago  (wifi slow) - possibly off-topic so apologies  (different issue probably, but timing helpful??)
[08:04] <jibel> guiverc, thanks
[08:04] <jibel> I tried build 20191008 and it works
[08:05] <infinity> Well, that's special.
[08:06] <jibel> guiverc, it's a different issue I think
[08:08] <Laney> guten morgen
[08:09] <Wimpress> Morning
[08:10] <Wimpress> infinity: The Ubuntu MATE QA team have been doing weekly ISO testing on hardware.
[08:10] <Wimpress> On the same hardware, since the iso yesterday, this is the first time they've encountered this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1848404
[08:11] <Wimpress> An image from Oct 12th works fine.
[08:11] <Wimpress> core was updated on 10th, so that can be ruled out.
[08:12] <Wimpress> systemd was updated on 14th.
[08:17] <jibel> build 20191014 works
[08:18] <jibel> i'll try 15
[08:18] <Wimpress> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0
[08:19] <Wimpress> Also changed on Oct 14th
[08:19] <jibel> diff between 14 and 16.5 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JsJW9VwrRJ/
[08:22] <Wimpress> I think we can rule out core18, Ubuntu MATE doesn't have that seeded.
[08:23] <Wimpress> Likewise for GNOME Control Center.
[08:28] <RikMills> jibel: with this Kubuntu build, cannot connect to wireless on install (not live) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20191015/
[08:30] <jibel> on 16 the font of Ubiquity is wrong too in "install" mode
[08:30] <Wimpress> `4min 31.161s systemd-time-wait-sync.service`
[08:30] <jibel> RikMills, thanks for confirming
[08:30] <jibel> that reduces the diff a bit
[08:30] <Wimpress> Top from `systemd-analyse blame` on live iso
[08:33] <jibel> diff between 14 and 15
[08:35] <seb128> jibel,did you mean to share an url for that diff?
[08:38] <jibel> maybe yes
[08:38] <jibel> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZjkTynfjg3/
[08:39] <jibel> an AI should have guessed my intention and do it for me
[08:39] <seb128> blame sudo?
[08:40] <RikMills> trying to resurrect Kubuntu 20191014 from zsync.old file
[08:42] <popey> i have old isos if you need them
[08:43] <RikMills> Kubuntu 20191014 connects to wifi fine
[08:45] <RikMills> Kubuntu diff 20191014 -> 20191015 = http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BQdS5Gt4Fy/
[08:45] <didrocks> popey is supercdimage.ubuntu.com ;)
[08:45] <didrocks> yeah so either casper (which sounds unlikely) or sudo (on how we use sudo in ubiquity)
[08:45] <popey> :)
[08:46] <popey> does ubiquity do "sudo -1" :D
[08:46] <didrocks> that's the question… :p
[08:47] <didrocks> (or maybe n-m directly…)
[08:47] <seb128> popey, I guess booting the old one, confirming that wifi works, upgrading sudo and trying again would be useful
 on 16 the font of Ubiquity is wrong too in "install" mode > What do you mean? I noticed on a 4K screen that the scaling was set to 100% which is very small, whereas when using a live session it's set to 200%
[08:47] <jibel> pieq, it is not the ubuntu font
[08:48] <Wimpress> willcooke noticed that yesterday too, but not on HiDPI system ^
[08:48] <jibel> like some default system font
[08:48] <jibel> not on hidpi
[08:49] <sil2100> jibel: hm, what I'd like to know if those are reproducible all the time - like, did you try multiple times on one image?
[08:50] <willcooke> yeah, I noticed the font yesterday, but I didnt notice it on the beta
[08:52] <jibel> sil2100, try it and you'll see it, several people are confirming it right now
[08:57] <popeytesting> booted 20191014, wifi works, rebooted, side-loaded latest sudo from the archive, started installer, wifi works fine
[08:57] <popeytesting> so possibly not sudo?
[08:57] <Wimpress> `Exec=sudo --preserve-env=DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS,XDG_RUNTIME_DIR sh -c 'ubiquity gtk_ui'`
[08:58] <didrocks> popeytesting: casper is the only one which makes sense in the diff (and so, the presence of the empty file triggers some side-effect?)
[08:58] <popeytesting> can i dpkg -i that on a live env?
[08:59] <popeytesting> (and it take effect)?
[08:59] <jibel> I agree with didrocks
[09:00] <didrocks> I think the best is to break on casper-bottom and replace add the diff manually before continuing booting: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/446738058/casper_1.425_1.426.diff.gz
[09:01] <didrocks> popeytesting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installer/Development/Tips (second paragraph)
[09:02] <popeytesting> ooh
[09:02] <didrocks> well, basically, just add break=bottom to the kernel line parameter in isolinux
[09:02] <didrocks> and enjoy busybox :p
[09:02]  * popeytesting attempts
[09:04] <popeytesting> is that diff a literal one line change?
[09:05] <RikMills> yes
[09:05] <didrocks> yep yep
[09:05] <popeytesting> the steps on the wiki page ask me to use screen which isn't installed on ubuntu mate
[09:05] <didrocks> yeah, ignore that
[09:05] <didrocks> just edit the file
[09:05] <popeytesting> do i need dhclient?
[09:05] <didrocks> neither
[09:05] <popeytesting> k
[09:06] <popeytesting> uh, where is that file?
[09:10] <willcooke> They've made a breakthrough.  Not deleting the machine ID (via a break top, and seding out that bit of code) looks like it mght have fixed the wifi and the font
[09:10] <bdmurray> A confirmation would be good though.
[09:11] <didrocks> popeytesting: do you still have /root/etc/machine-id ? (let me launch a vm to tell you where the file is)
[09:11] <popeytesting> found the script to edit
[09:11] <popeytesting> added the rm in
[09:11] <didrocks> ok :)
[09:11] <didrocks> or even
[09:12] <didrocks> delete the file
[09:12] <popeytesting> how do i proceed into the live environment?
[09:12] <RikMills> google tells me n-m uses that file for 'something'
[09:12] <didrocks> popeytesting: exit the shell should go on
[09:12] <popeytesting> exit shell dumps me at (initamfs)
[09:12] <pieq> RikMills, is that a direct quote from Google? :D
[09:12] <didrocks> was it continue, like c?
[09:13]  * didrocks hasn't done that for a long time, let me test
[09:13] <popeytesting> its continue
[09:14] <mwhudson> oh what the heck
[09:14] <mwhudson> (machine-id nonsense)
[09:14] <didrocks> popeytesting: I should have asked you to directly remove /root/etc/machine-id, would have been easier
[09:15] <didrocks> (rather than editing the script, which may have already been running)
[09:15] <popeytesting> well, did that and I still get on wifi
[09:15] <didrocks> popeytesting: yeah, I think the script had already ran
[09:15]  * popeytesting tries again
[09:15] <didrocks> just rm it
[09:15] <bdmurray> We are set.
[09:15] <popeytesting> i did
[09:15] <didrocks> ah…
[09:15] <bdmurray> I don't think further confirmation is necessary.
[09:15] <didrocks> ok then
[09:15] <popeytesting> ok
[09:16] <bdmurray> Thanks though!
[09:18] <popeytesting> (rmming that file still allows me on the wifi, so, shrug)
[09:19] <mwhudson> the file certainly should be created by systemd before anything else gets to care about it
[09:22] <bdmurray> There will be a respin of isos shortly.
[09:26] <RikMills> a bit late here, but confirm on Kubuntu that if I rm the machine-id on a working iso at point suggested, on boot the error is replicated
[09:32] <sil2100> We have a fix that we're testing, one that would both work for desktop and subiquity images
[09:32] <sil2100> So that's the good news, the bad news is as what bdmurray mentioned - there will be last-minute re-spins because of tht
[09:32] <sil2100> *that
[09:33] <pieq> sil2100,
[09:33] <pieq> sil2100, 👍
[09:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: casper (eoan-proposed/main) [1.426 => 1.427] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[09:41] <xnox> everyone enjoy ^
[09:43] <willcooke> \o/
[09:44] <sil2100> \o/
[09:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: casper (eoan-proposed/main) [1.426 => 1.427] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[09:55] <xnox> now with less typpos =)
[09:57] <bdmurray> Is there a better phrase than "Less Popular Ubuntu images" that we can use at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes#Download_Ubuntu_19.10 ?
[09:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected casper [source] (eoan-proposed) [1.427]
[09:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted casper [source] (eoan-proposed) [1.427]
[09:58] <popey> bdmurray: less frequently requested
[09:59] <mwhudson> xnox: oh boy
[09:59] <mwhudson> (just read the diff)
[09:59] <RikMills> 'specialised images' ?
[09:59] <bluesabre> bdmurray: Alternative Ubuntu images
[10:00] <RikMills> alternate has a history
[10:00] <bluesabre> If we use "Advanced" it should drive up the download count ;)
[10:00] <RikMills> 'special use'
[10:00] <infinity> Less often downloaded?  Which means the same thing as popular, but has less of an implicit value judgement for valley girls?
[10:01] <bluesabre> lol
[10:01] <infinity> They're not just "special use", it's all non-amd64, for instance.
[10:01] <pieq> bluesabre has an agenda here! ;)
[10:02]  * bluesabre ducks and hides
[10:02]  * pieq eod
[10:03] <bdmurray> didrocks: please let me know when you are done editing
[10:03] <didrocks> bdmurray: and done!
[10:18] <Laney>                                                                                                                 W: Failed to fetch http://us.ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/dists/eoan/InRelease  Could not resolve 'us.ftpmaster.internal'
[10:18] <Laney> wat
[10:22] <cjwatson> ...
[10:35] <bluesabre> Guess we'll need the canonical vpn to update, no big deal, right :)
[10:53] <philroche> bdmurray: CPC have a 20191017 build in progress with manifest https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/7j48Tgx3kx/ . Do you know what the diff will be for your in progress respin? Is it casper only? If so then CPC can proceed preparing 20191017 as we don't ship casper
[10:55] <bdmurray> philroche: It is only casper.
[10:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: caffe (eoan-proposed/universe) [1.0.0+git20180821.99bd997-2ubuntu2 => 1.0.0+git20180821.99bd997-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[10:55] <philroche> bdmurray: Excellent. Thanks
[10:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted caffe [sync] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.0+git20180821.99bd997-3]
[10:56] <philroche> bdmurray: We won't make anything public until we get a +1 from you
[10:56] <bdmurray> philroche: that distro-info-data version looks like something from bionic though
[10:57] <infinity> That is definitely a bionic manifest. :P
[10:57] <philroche> bdmurray: You're right. Bad copy paste https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/9X7x5qyJjF/
[10:57] <philroche> infinity: ^
[10:58] <infinity> philroche: That looks good to me.
[11:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (eoan-proposed/multiverse) [6.0.12-dfsg-1ubuntu19.10.1 => 6.0.14-dfsg-1ubuntu19.10.1] (no packageset)
[11:04] <LocutusOfBorg> kernel 5.3 fixes ^^ I hope it can still go in...
[11:04] <LocutusOfBorg> it is not seeded
[11:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-hwe [source] (eoan-proposed) [6.0.14-dfsg-1ubuntu19.10.1]
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (eoan-proposed/multiverse) [6.0.12-dfsg-1 => 6.0.14-dfsg-1] (ubuntu-cloud) (sync)
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso (eoan-proposed/multiverse) [6.0.12-1~build1 => 6.0.14-1~build1] (no packageset)
[11:06] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, please remove blacklist on virtualbox-ext-pack?
[11:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-ext-pack (eoan-proposed/multiverse) [6.0.12-2 => 6.0.14-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[11:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-ext-pack [sync] (eoan-proposed) [6.0.14-1]
[11:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-guest-additions-iso [source] (eoan-proposed) [6.0.14-1~build1]
[11:07] <LocutusOfBorg> mmm why is seeded-in-ubuntu virtualbox not returning ubuntu-cloud?
[11:09] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Because it's not seeded?
[11:09] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: ubuntu-cloud in the context above is a packageset (for upload rights), not a seed.
[11:10] <LocutusOfBorg> oh... thanks, so not happening to appear on any iso
[11:11] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Also, it's release day, and we're hours (or less) from closing the archive.  Are those uploads meant for FF? :P
[11:11] <LocutusOfBorg> they contain kernel 5.3 fixes
[11:11] <LocutusOfBorg> I would prefer to land on release, but I still can SRU later them
[11:12] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: How quickly does vbox usually migrate?  I suspect you'll not have time to make it pre-SRU.
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> tests requires less than one hour
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> usually one hour for build/tests is enough
[11:12] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: I guess I can accept them and if you miss your window, you can SRU FF-version~19.10 no-change uploads to eoan.
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> sure
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks for letting them in
[11:13] <LocutusOfBorg> btw I would appreciate if somebody can remove the blacklist on ext-pack
[11:13] <LocutusOfBorg> the bug is now fixed
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox [sync] (eoan-proposed) [6.0.14-dfsg-1]
[11:13] <LocutusOfBorg> previous runs seems to have took ~5minutes
[11:15] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: unblacklisted.
[11:16] <LocutusOfBorg> 💖
[11:16] <LocutusOfBorg> and good luck for the release! keep up the good work, as usual
[11:27] <bdmurray> philroche: Is there anything more to add to the Cloud Images section of the release notes?
[11:29] <philroche> bdmurray: I believe there was some more words around performance of the new KVM image.
[11:29] <philroche> patviafore ^
[11:29] <philroche> bdmurray: I'll chase that up
[11:30] <bdmurray> philroche: thanks!
[11:40] <bdmurray> wxl: The lubuntu release note link points to disco
[11:45] <ginggs> vorlon: I think you're right that rapmap-* should be amd64, thank, i'll bug the debian maintainer
[12:29] <Laney> 👻
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xorg-server-hwe-18.04 (bionic-proposed/main) [2:1.20.4-1ubuntu3~18.04.1 => 2:1.20.4-1ubuntu3~18.04.2] (no packageset)
[12:53] <fginther> bdmurray, the cloud images section updates are complete in the release notes
[12:54] <bdmurray> fginther: great, thanks!
[12:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[12:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017.1)
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:04] <ogra> the flavour builds look unhappy
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:05] <ogra> oh, not just the flavours
[13:06] <popey> ogra how so?
[13:06] <RikMills> ogra: what is unhappy about them?
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server ppc64el [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server s390x [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:08] <ogra>   File "/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/../lib/cdimage/mirror.py", line 47, in check_manifest
[13:08] <ogra>     ".manifest has non-existent file %s" % name)
[13:08] <ogra> UnknownManifestFile: .manifest has non-existent file /eoan/ubuntu-19.10-beta-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:08] <ogra> i got mails for all the last builds like this
[13:08] <ahasenack> me too
[13:08] <ahasenack> well, jsut for CD image ubuntu-server/eoan/daily failed to build on 20191017
[13:08] <ogra> seems the isos have built though
[13:09] <sil2100> I think Adam was moving the beta images somehow somewhere, so maybe he'll know more
[13:09] <sil2100> infinity: ^
[13:10] <RikMills> sil2100:  I think I recall just that issue a few releases back
[13:11] <RikMills> error looks familiar, anyway
[13:16] <Wimpress> infinity: ISOs for 17th are not on the server.
[13:17]  * ogra dips his finger in the cake that RikMills just brought
[13:17] <ogra> Wimpress, see above
[13:17] <ogra> some manifest check fell over
[13:18] <infinity> Wimpress: Patience.
[13:18] <infinity> ogra: Fixed.
[13:18] <ogra> :D
[13:19]  * Wimpress is impatiently waiting to test :-)
[13:21] <didrocks> got it, /me starts esoteric non english testing
[13:22]  * Wimpress waits for the green edition....
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64+raspi3 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server armhf+raspi3 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[13:25] <sil2100> No bugs please!
[13:25] <sil2100> ;)
[13:27] <RikMills> sil2100: that is ambitious! :P
[13:30] <bdmurray> How about no new bugs?
[13:30] <didrocks> sounds more realistics :)
[13:31] <ogra> only pink bugs allowed today
[13:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity ppc64el [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity s390x [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:45] <Wimpress> xnox: Looking good, iso boot performance restored :-)
[13:51] <infinity> Wimpress: \o/
[13:52] <philroche> bdmurray: Cloud section of wiki now updated
[13:53] <popey> Ubuntu clean install on encryption from 20191017 worked here
[13:56]  * didrocks is always installing in Gaellic for a non default seeded language with and without network
[13:59] <coreycb> I have an autopkgtest fix for panko. I think I'll just SRU it but if it's ok to upload just let me know.
[14:01] <cjwatson> didrocks: maith tú
[14:02] <ogra> what is "brexit" in gaelic ?
[14:02] <bdmurray> coreycb: that sounds like something to keep in -proposed until there is a real SRU
[14:02] <didrocks> :)
[14:02] <cjwatson> ogra: there are a few; my favourite coinage for it is "Sasamach" (portmanteau of Sasana → England and amach → out)
[14:03] <ogra> hah
[14:03] <coreycb> bdmurray: good point, I'll tag it appropriately and probably just upload tomorrow
[14:06] <tsimonq2> Morning.
[14:06] <RikMills> tsimonq2: afternoon
[14:07] <rbalint> Ubuntu desktop amd64 clean install without encryption was succesful and also boots :-)
[14:08] <rbalint> (20191017)
[14:08] <RikMills> at the moment on a laptop that can't really test much, so any Kubuntu tests appreciated
[14:09] <rbalint> the "Ready to go" window keeps spinning for a minute or so :-\
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity arm64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017.2)
[14:11] <cyphermox> RikMills: ok; I'm grabbing a kubuntu image now, there were brief power outages here so I need to switch to a laptop anyway ;)
[14:11] <tsimonq2> I can grab Kubuntu after I smoke test Lubuntu.
[14:11] <RikMills> thanks!
[14:12] <sil2100> I'm pulling in studio for a sanity run
[14:17] <rbalint> is there an option i missed to save live session's wifi setup to the install target in ubiquity? lack of network connection was why initial setup kept spinning without any indication that it needs network
[14:18] <willcooke> rbalint, it should be automatic
[14:18] <jibel> rbalint, file a bug, it should be preserved
[14:18] <jibel> used to
[14:19] <rbalint> willcooke, jibel, makes sense, thanks!
[14:20] <rbalint> LP: #42791
[14:21] <rbalint> 13 years old bug :-\
[14:23] <jibel> no it's been fixed
[14:23] <jibel> but maybe broke again
[14:23] <rbalint> jibel, sounds much better :-)
[14:23] <rbalint> jibel, i mean really
[14:24] <jibel> oem, zfs, sb passed
[14:33] <Eickmeyer> Ok, so I just woke-up to the world's biggest FTB message, only to find it actually built?
[14:33] <ogra> yep
[14:33] <Eickmeyer> Imma smoke-test Studio and likely give it the go-ahead.
[14:33] <ogra> was only the publishing and adam massaged it through the pipes then
[14:34] <Eickmeyer> ogra: Thanks.
[14:34] <Eickmeyer> infinity must be one tired human.
[14:35] <tsimonq2> Boom, Lubuntu's ready. :)
[14:35] <Eickmeyer> Gonna take me a bit, I just woke up.
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[14:35]  * tsimonq2 slides Eickmeyer a cofee
[14:36] <tsimonq2> *coffee
[14:36] <ogra> coffee to celebrate a release ?
[14:36] <Eickmeyer> ^Something like that. Right now I've got adrenaline from that FTB email.
[14:36] <ogra> put at least a small umbrella in !
[14:36] <Eickmeyer> ogra: I still have to sign-off on Studio.
[14:36] <ogra> oh, right, you said so
[14:42] <Eickmeyer> I'm just glad I upgraded my internet a month ago. :P  This process used to take forever.
[14:43] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: zsync ftw
[14:46] <infinity> ^
[14:47] <Eickmeyer> Indeed, but even with zsync it used to take forever.
[14:48] <Eickmeyer> I use zsync all the time.
[14:50] <bdmurray> Laney: Should we release note bug 1847896?
[14:50] <Laney> Sure, why not
[14:51] <Laney> hopefully the first SRU is planned for quite soon
[14:53] <ogra> popey, did you open a bug about your wifi-delays-boot-by-14-min yesterday ?
[14:53] <ogra> seems there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1848333 but thats not really informative
[14:54] <bdmurray> ogra: The casper change should have resolved that.
[14:54] <cyphermox_> ugh
[14:55] <bdmurray> no ugh'ing
[14:55] <ogra> bdmurray, what popey had was actually timesyncd ntp sync hodling the whole boot back because he installed offline
[14:55] <cyphermox_> tsimonq2 did you manage to get kubuntu? I have the iso downloaded but power doesn't stick around long enough for me to successfully write the image to USB
[14:55] <ogra> not sure if the casper change fixed that
[14:55] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox_: I see your ugh and raise you a *sigh*
[14:55] <cyphermox_> (I'm trying again, on a different system)
[14:56] <cyphermox_> brownouts ...
[14:56] <tsimonq2> cyphermox_: Not quite yet, should I?
[14:56] <cyphermox_> oh I thought you said you were going to earlier
[14:56] <cyphermox_> nevermind
[14:56] <cyphermox_> I'm operating without backlog ;)
[14:57] <cyphermox_> I went to shut off the circuit breakers to some of the appliances, they kept beeping being restarted
[14:57] <tsimonq2> I mean, I can.
[14:57] <cyphermox_> well
[14:57] <cyphermox_> essentially I just mean: I'm not done, it's taking a while because of faulty equipment
[14:57] <tsimonq2> Okay.
[14:58] <cyphermox_> RikMills ^
[14:58] <tsimonq2> I'm handling release day housekeeping for Lubuntu, let me know.
[14:59] <RikMills> kubuntu can cause regional power problems ;)
[14:59] <cyphermox_> don't think it's your fault ;)
[15:00] <popey> ogra: no. Am afk
[15:00] <ogra> and i thought kubuntu empowers *you*
[15:00] <RikMills> we give, we take away....
[15:00] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: I'm doing a sanity test on Studio on actual hardware.
[15:02] <jibel> vmware is good
[15:03] <Eickmeyer> jibel: Agreed, but we don't support the lowlatency kernel on vitrual machines as it's known to cause problems.
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[15:13] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: thanks!
[15:13] <sil2100> ;)
[15:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dkms (disco-proposed/main) [2.6.1-4ubuntu2.3 => 2.6.1-4ubuntu2.4] (ubuntu-desktop)
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dkms (bionic-proposed/main) [2.3-3ubuntu9.6 => 2.3-3ubuntu9.7] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[15:22] <Eickmeyer> Studio is go.
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[15:31] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: \o/
[15:35] <xnox> bdmurray:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes#Wrong_Bootloader_Device_with_2_or_more_drives
[15:35] <xnox> but you have email about it
[15:47] <cyphermox_> RikMills well, full disk encryption install works fine
[15:48] <cyphermox_> I have something to say about screen scaliing though :)
[15:50] <RikMills> tell it to KDE? we depend on them for that
[16:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[16:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[16:11] <vorlon> has anyone in London seen LP: #1848333 ?
[16:12] <vorlon> uh, possibly since it's apparently been triaged in ways that didn't show up in my mail ;)
[16:12] <willcooke> :D
[16:12] <infinity> *cough*FixReleased*cough*
[16:12] <vorlon> yep
[16:13] <infinity> But also, it ruined our day.
[16:15] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that was in interesting FTB to wake up to this morning.
[16:19] <tsimonq2> *cough* switch to Calamares *cough* *cough* :)
[16:20] <ogra> you and your seafood all the time ...
[16:20] <tsimonq2> XD
[16:20] <ogra> :)
[16:21] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: Remember, I tried it. Even deep fried, it's too rubbery for my liking.
[16:21] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: I actually kind of liked it.
[16:21] <tsimonq2> I agree that it is a bit rubbery, but it does the job.
[16:21] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: I know! I was there! lol
[16:21] <tsimonq2> I'd eat it again.
[16:21] <Eickmeyer> Not sure I would. :P
[16:21] <tsimonq2> :P
[16:22] <tsimonq2> Maybe next year we should reserve spots at the Greek place ahead of time. XD
[16:22] <ogra> Eickmeyer, the trick is called aioli
[16:22] <ogra> (to dip them in)
[16:22] <tsimonq2> ^^^
[16:22] <Eickmeyer> I'll give it another try if the opportunity presents itself.
[16:24] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: Let's follow up elsewhere about having some sort of Ubuntu dinner.
[16:24] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: Agreed.
[16:30] <philroche> bdmurray: infinity: Are there any outstanding tests and do you have a release time in mind? CPC is ready with serial 20191017
[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[17:15] <sil2100> philroche: ok, I think we're all good
[17:15] <sil2100> philroche: you can proceed!
[17:15] <philroche> sil2100: ack
[17:33] <tsimonq2> \o/
[17:34] <cjwatson> Well done
[17:35] <tsimonq2> Subscribed to focal-changes. ;)
[17:45] <tsimonq2> https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debootstrap/merge_requests/36
[17:50] <tsimonq2> https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/merge_requests/261
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (disco-proposed/main) [240-6ubuntu5.7 => 240-6ubuntu5.8] (core)
[17:58] <ddstreet> sru admins, can you reject the older systemd upload to disco, that's been in the queue for a few days.  this new upload includes everything from the last one plus another fix.
[18:13] <vorlon> ddstreet: done
[18:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected systemd [source] (disco-proposed) [240-6ubuntu5.8]
[18:24] <vorlon> juliank: hi, when you updated seed-new-release to include log.gz, was it intentional that you didn't also include artifacts.tar.gz?
[18:25] <juliank> vorlon: I updated that? I don't remember
[18:25] <vorlon> juliank: in May 2018 ;)
[18:26] <ogra> back in the days ...
[18:26] <ogra> ... when we were young
[18:26] <juliank> In any case I don't know the answer
[18:26] <vorlon> juliank: I think we need to copy everything forward, so that each release is self-contained; so if you don't specifically remember wanting to not do that, I'll trust that this is what we want
[18:27] <juliank> Possibly probably
[18:28] <vorlon> (and I didn't notice this until after I had already nuked autopkgtest-cosmic, because your fix landed before disco opened; so we have all the logs but will be missing some of the artifacts, oops)
[18:29] <juliank> I think there are worse things in the world than that
[18:29] <vorlon> yes, a few :)
[18:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dkms [source] (disco-proposed) [2.6.1-4ubuntu2.4]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dkms [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.3-3ubuntu9.7]
[19:20] <tsimonq2> infinity, vorlon: Focal wiki created; what happened to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FFSeries/ReleaseSchedule ?
[19:26] <infinity> tsimonq2: It got moved to where it belongs?
[19:27] <tsimonq2> infinity: It is not showing as a subpage of the wiki I created.
[19:27] <tsimonq2> infinity: Focal Focca, right?
[19:27] <infinity> No.
[19:27] <dax> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[19:27] <tsimonq2> Ugh.
[19:27] <tsimonq2> Yay, early cycle typos.
[19:28] <infinity> Right, off to get some rest.  Will open in the morning.
[19:28] <infinity> cjwatson: ^-- I intend to init first thing in the morning.
[19:28] <infinity> cjwatson: I'll make sure you're around to babysit before I press ze button.
[19:28] <cjwatson> infinity: OK.  By default I'll be around from 10ish after morning meeting, but can be around from 9ish if need be.
[19:29] <infinity> cjwatson: Mmkay.
[19:29] <tsimonq2> infinity: As you might have seen, I took care of lintian and debootstrap PRs upstream. You're welcome to do those uploads, or I can, your choice.
[19:29] <tsimonq2> And, devscripts needs a no-change rebuild.
[19:29] <tsimonq2> Those are the three I have my eyes on.
[19:30] <cjwatson> I merged the debootstrap one on salsa
[19:30] <tsimonq2> Thanks. lamby merged lintian earlier.
[19:30] <cjwatson> (not going to upload it, going out)
[19:31] <tsimonq2> NMU? :P
[19:31] <tsimonq2> (I'm not feeling that crazy today, unless you seriously want me to.)
[19:31] <cjwatson> I don't much care
[19:31] <tsimonq2> I guess I could join the Debian Installer team on Salsa and do a team upload.
[19:56] <tsimonq2> Nice, lamby uploaded Lintian already.