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_Shawn_thierry, if have a win7 boot disk you may be able to fix it. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-7-wont-boot-the-boot-selection-failed/0542c571-793a-41cb-ad7a-58cba78c9e9c00:10
thierryAbout two years ago the automatic startup repair completely wiped a drive when a similar (or same?) issue occured. Prior to the wipe, Windows wasn't able to boot, but Ubuntu still saw all the files. I do not have any way to make a backup...00:12
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_Shawn_Check SATA mode in BIOS?00:48
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alexandrdvorkincan anyone explain to me how to install a MacBook FacetimeHD camera driver02:13
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: does your cam work when you launch cheese?02:14
alexandrdvorkinNo device detected02:15
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: wich macbook model on wich ubuntu version please?02:17
alexandrdvorkin  Macbook 2017 ubuntu 18.0402:18
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: system up to date also?02:18
alexandrdvorkini think its up to date02:18
ubottuTo ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.02:18
lotuspsychjeto check02:18
lotuspsychjecan you see wich kernel you are on too please alexandrdvorkin, uname -a02:19
lotuspsychjeok tnx02:20
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: can you pastebin your dmesg please?02:20
aleksandrdvorkindid you get my pastebin02:24
lotuspsychjeyes ty aleksandrdvorkin watching now02:25
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: are you on a physical install or virtualbox?02:25
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: that might be the culprit, did you compare on a liveusb?02:29
aleksandrdvorkinwhat is liveusb02:30
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: when you create an usb with ubuntu iso, you can choose to install ubuntu or try (livemode)02:30
aleksandrdvorkinso i can insstall the Ubuntu on my Macbook harddrive without Virtualbox02:33
lotuspsychjeyes aleksandrdvorkin02:33
aleksandrdvorkinbut i am worrying to messup the system partition and loose my Macbook OS02:34
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: thats your choice to be made of course02:34
aleksandrdvorkincan the Macbook OS coexist with Ubuntu on the same drive02:35
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: i think dualboots are possible, but thats gonna be a bit hard to do02:35
aleksandrdvorkini am most likely going to messup the Macbook native system partiton02:37
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: not if you try ubuntu live02:39
yelofdefinately backup your mac first, requires some configuration to get working. https://www.lifewire.com/dual-boot-linux-and-mac-os-412573302:39
aleksandrdvorkinwell i have the ubuntu on USB flashdrive02:39
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: you can press the special + R (or f) button, to bootup usb's at bootup, then choose ubuntu (live)02:39
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: i often install ubuntu on macs that lost official apple support02:40
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: yeah try alt R then youl see this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/VHhxc.jpg02:41
aleksandrdvorkinhow do i backup the MacOS ifidont have an external drive02:48
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: if you testing livemode you dont need a backup, but if you choose a dualboot, do what yelof adviced02:48
aleksandrdvorkinwell I read the article and i dont have an External drive to make a Recovery HD02:51
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: i understand, so your option is to test ubuntu live?02:52
aleksandrdvorkinwell but its the same thing as running it through virtual box02:53
aleksandrdvorkinI have no problems with virtualbox except maybe that camera isnot working but everthing else works fine02:54
lotuspsychjealeksandrdvorkin: not really the same no, but its your choice what to do02:54
aleksandrdvorkinok let me try to reboot to Ubuntu live on my USB flash02:55
aleksandrdvorkinbe back02:55
lotuspsychjegood luck02:55
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lamar_123where can i post the bug to ubuntu?03:00
Bashing-om!bug lamar_12303:01
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lotuspsychjelamar_123: we strongly advice before filing a new !bug, to first ask your question here, maybe volunteers know its a known bug03:02
lamar_123@lotuspsychje ubuntu 19.04, hotpulg the HDMI audio Monitor,the pulseaudio can not recognize the hdmi sink status. only reboot the machine the status will correct03:06
lotuspsychjelamar_123: journalctl -f and plug out/ plug in your hdmi and pastebin the errors, maybe volunteers might have an idea03:07
juliavmusercan I ask a question, how can I upgrade my current 19.04 installation to 19.10 and when does the final version becomes available ?03:07
lotuspsychjejuliavmuser: its reccomended to upgrade when final 19.10 is released03:08
juliavmuserdo i have to use an apt command to install the 19.10 ?03:09
thingfishjuliavmuser: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/10/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-19-1003:10
sarnoldjuliavmuser: you can upgrade with do-release-upgrade  --- I'm not entirely sure when the final release will be available but "tomorrow" isn't too far wrong03:10
sarnoldjuliavmuser: 19.04 should still be supported for another three months or so, so you don't have to do it immediately03:10
saptechhi all03:10
juliavmuserthanks sarnold, thingfish . Yap I got mixed with the dates, because at my side of the planet tomorrow is today hehe03:11
sarnoldjuliavmuser: oh you're one of those crazy people from the future!03:11
sarnoldjuliavmuser: does everyone have hover cars? is food in pill form?03:11
juliavmuserlol yes, I drive a delorean03:12
lotuspsychjehere its already today!03:12
lotuspsychje!party | juliavmuser idle here03:12
ubottujuliavmuser idle here: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !eoan release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/03:12
sarnoldman I'm the only one still living in yesterday03:13
juliavmuserdo we know which kernel will be in that release? I used 5.3 at 19.0403:13
lotuspsychjejuliavmuser: lets discuss that in #ubuntu+1 or at the party03:13
juliavmusernice I will jump there with my hover-scooter03:14
lamar_123lotuspsychje: i found the problem exist in the kernel module "snd_hdmi_lpe_audio"03:16
lamar_123when i hotplug the HDMI audio Monitor, the system can not callback the func "notify_audio_lpe(struct platform_device *pdev, int port)"03:18
lamar_123i use the Intel Cherry Trail X5-Z8300 platform03:19
lotuspsychjelamar_123: have you updated your bios to latest? on trails & nucs thats very reccomended03:19
lamar_123where can i get it? the biso is customized from hardware manufacturers?03:21
lotuspsychjelamar_123: intel cherry..at intels website03:22
lamar_123ok, i try it.03:22
sarnoldany chance fwupd or whatever would have it?03:23
sarnolddoes intel work with that too?03:23
lotuspsychjeworth a try sarnold03:23
lamar_123lotuspsychje: the journalctl -f info, is need now ?03:23
lotuspsychjelamar_123: if you still want to share, sure use a !pastebin03:23
lamar_123 !pastebin03:23
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juliavmuserthanks again for helping me, I have to return back to the future.03:26
lamar_123lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/b2XMM2BsFF/     i have paste the " journalctl -f" info, and the "pacmd list-sinks" info after pulg in the HDMI audio Monitor03:33
bsmith093i have a really weird issue. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MD6tZsHvCh/ evidently my laptop decided to just suspend itself, even though i specifically switched all the power management settings to "do nothing"03:44
OerHeksbsmith093, maybe your battery is empty?03:48
OerHekswhatever settings you use then, does not help03:49
bsmith093plugged in to ac 24/703:49
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.03:51
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bsmith093OerHeks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MD6tZsHvCh/ thats a kernel log03:52
sarnoldbsmith093: did you happen to tap the powerbutton or an onscreen 'suspend' icon or similar?03:52
bsmith093also no. although i did just realize that my ac adapter was slightly loose in the socket, so i fixed that.03:54
bsmith093i"m a dumbass, ingore me :P03:55
OerHeksbsmith093, i had the powersocket pluged in, but not in my laptop, checking 3 times the wall socket ... anyway, have fun!03:58
sarnoldcertainly I wish the *reason* for these things were logged :(03:59
OerHekssarnold, line 412 ?04:01
OerHeksPM: suspend entry (deep)04:01
sarnoldOerHeks: that's *what* it is doing, not *why* it is doing it04:01
OerHeksah ic04:02
sarnoldOerHeks: the why would be "power buytton was pushed" or "requested by uid 1000 pid 10234 comm="gnome-susp"" or who knows what. *something*. anything. :)04:03
chietais $ apt dist-upgrade resumable if we interrupt it? https://dpaste.de/7LnJ04:30
OerHeksapt install -f # or run just dist-upgrade again?04:32
chietaOerHeks  i don't want to re-download it again04:33
OerHeksno need to, if the packages are downloaded04:37
Casper26is there a way to add tls mode in gnome connection manager on ubuntu 16.04?04:45
Coolerthere seems to be some problem with ubuntu https://imgur.com/amHA5km05:05
CoolerI clicked on "open containing folder" in vscode to open the directory containing a file05:06
Coolernow even after closing vscode it is permanently stuck highlighting the vscode icon whenever I open nautilus05:06
Coolerthis doesn't happen if I go to the terminal and type "nautilus"05:07
OerHeksfile it as a bug to vscode snap ?05:09
CoolerXtatertots, well I didn't power cycle05:09
CoolerXjust locking the screen and logging back in worked05:10
CoolerXnow it is back to normal05:10
Cooleralso you can see that the icons have been changed to "large icons"05:10
tatertotsCooler: can you make the observation after a power cycle or reboot?05:10
Cooleropening nautilus via the terminal shows the "normal sized icons"05:10
Coolertatertots, will try05:10
CoolerXtatertots, do you why this happened?05:12
tatertotsCoolerX: no, i don't know why it occurred.05:23
RegorRhythmbox not supporting .m3u8 streaming .. is there any missing library/plugin Rhythmbox needs ?06:59
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no_gravityGood Morning!07:10
no_gravityIs this the right way to create an array in Bash? names=( Sue Joe Tim )07:10
EriC^^no_gravity: might #bash can be more helpful07:16
no_gravityEriC^^: People in #bash are ... how shall I put it politely ... not very polite :)07:17
no_gravityBut I figured it out not!07:17
no_gravitynames=( Sue Joe Tim ); for name in "${names[@]}"; do echo $name; done;07:17
osse#bash is a cesspool07:19
OerHeksyes, today08:17
OerHeksthe iso's .. not the upgrade, IIRC08:18
isomariwhen will the upgrade be online and what time will the iso's be out?08:20
OerHekswait patiently in #ubuntu-releaseparty08:21
OerHeksnobody can tell08:21
isomarigreetings, how do I clear/delete all repo info and caches so I can refresh the whole apt system?08:27
StyXmanmy kubuntu won't finish booting because there's an issue with swap and crypto, and now I find that there are no kernel boot options to disable swap. any ideas what else can I try? grub2 works, can I edit /etc/fstab from there?08:36
mgedminno, but maybe you can from the initramfs environment08:37
tarzeauStyXman: no but you can maybe boot with init=/bin/bash and remount -o remount,rw / then edit fstab?08:37
StyXmanah, right08:37
mgedminbtw does the rescue mode from the grub boot menu fail to boot as well?08:38
StyXmandidn't try08:43
glitchdcan someone possibly answer a question regarding lxdm?08:45
lotuspsychje!ask | glitchd08:46
ubottuglitchd: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:46
glitchdlotuspsychje, i didnt want to ask and get told to go elsewhere and find info.08:46
lotuspsychjenobody said you need to ask elsewhere08:47
lotuspsychjeglitchd: we just need a question first08:47
glitchdwhat im trying to do is put together a script of some kind to enter my password on the login screen. i dont want to use autologin, since the machine is strictly use to listen to music via pithos. however if i use the native autologin feature, it asks me for my password when starting pithos, it only does that because im using the autologin feature.08:49
mgedminso, it's asking for the password because it needs to unlock your login keyring08:50
mgedminyou can change the login keyring password to an empty string, which will mean two things08:50
mgedmin(1) no password prompts after autologin, and (2) all your saved passwords are sitting in plain text on the hard disk, so don't let the machine get stolen08:50
mgedminI use an ubuntu laptop for this kind of home media PC experience; autologin works great for me08:51
glitchdmgedmin, well, like i said, this is an extra machine that i use strictly to listen to music from. no sensitive info is on the machine whatsoever.08:51
mgedminI believe you can change the keyring password with seahorse?08:51
ubukingI have QUESTION !08:52
lotuspsychjeubuking: and you can ask it08:52
ubukingI have NEW PC (amd ryzen 3900x with 32 gb Memory)08:52
ubukingshould i take 18.04 or 19.10??08:52
ubukingand which DE?08:53
glitchdpersonally, i would go with the lts 18.04.308:53
esrorelease hour ?08:53
ubukingglitchd thanks… which DE??08:53
lotuspsychje!party | esro08:53
ubottuesro: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !eoan release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/08:53
OerHeksesro, today.08:53
glitchdubuking, whichever you prefer.08:54
ubukingnot sure like all08:54
ubukingwhich do you like ??08:54
esroi know its today, but its today for me already. so when is today for uplooaders08:54
glitchdubuking, i usually use xfce personally08:55
ClawOfLightHi! is there an ubuntu-based live iso that boots with SSH login enabled?08:55
ubukingthanks !08:55
OerHeksClawOfLight, no.08:55
ubukingyou can enable it ClawOfLight08:55
ubukingsudo passwd root08:55
OerHeksignore the troll08:55
ClawOfLightI'd like to have a maintenance option for a server without terminal access.08:56
ubukingwhich troll OerHeks?08:56
OerHeksClawOfLight, the only version that gives ssh *after* install, is ubuntu-core08:56
ClawOfLightIt doesn't have integrated graphics, so I would need to *install a GPU* just to attach a terminal....08:56
ClawOfLightOerHeks: ubuntu server has an option to enable ssh after install, it can even pull your public key from github or launchpad.08:57
ClawOfLightbut as I said, I'm looking for a live option.08:57
ClawOfLight(Something that allows me to DD the boot SSD safely)09:00
OerHeksi think it will never be, as it is a security risc, for ubuntu-core you need to login online to create a custom iso09:00
OerHeksbut that would not be live09:00
ubukingwhich DE you recommend me ?09:01
ClawOfLightubuking: brltty09:01
lotuspsychje!discuss | ubuking09:01
ubottuubuking: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!09:01
ClawOfLightI'm aware of the security risk, but this is behind NAT and firewall, so I don't care09:02
ClawOfLightI hoped there would be a way to enable that somehow09:02
ClawOfLightI guess I'll just build an arch iso with zfs and ssh then...?09:03
StyXmantarzeau: thanks, that worked09:08
glitchdthx for the help guys, im just gonna live with typing in a password.09:17
k_szeIf I have my master GPG keypair on a removable drive, how do I verify that my passphrase is still correct?09:30
TJ-k_sze: can you re-phrase the question, it doesn't quite make sense. Do you mean how do you tell gpg to read the files from the removable device in order to check/use the passphrase?09:32
k_szeTJ-, no I have really kept my master key pair on a removable drive. I have basically never used it since I generated it years ago (I never got to attend any key signing party, so using it was kinda moot). I *think* I have my passphrase in my Keepass database, but I'm not sure if it is correct.09:33
k_szeDo I *have* to copy the keypair to ~/.gnupg/ first?09:34
TJ-k_sze: No; see "man gpg" and --homedir and --keyring09:35
statusfailedHave the text-mode terminals disappeared in 19.04? I can't do ctrl-alt-F[12346] anymore09:38
k_szeI ... don't quite get it.09:39
statusfailedI just get either X11 (on 1 or 2), or a black screen (on 3 .. 6)09:39
mgedmindoes pressing Enter help on tty3...6 ?09:40
mgedminalthough I don't need that, I see text logins on all three09:40
TJ-statusfailed: what GPU is the system using? You should have getty/login sessions on ttys09:40
k_szeTJ-, suppose I have /media/k_sze/GPG-keys/foo.private.gpg-key and /media/k_sze/GPG-keys/foo.public.gpg-key.09:41
statusfailedTJ-: ah might be a driver problem then09:41
statusfailedI've been having them all morning09:41
statusfailedit's an NVIDIA GTX1660 but I finally got it booting normally in graphical mode so I thought it was working09:42
k_szeTJ-, those files are ascii-armored versions of my private and public keys.09:43
tommy``statusfailed: how much for that nvidia?09:44
statusfailedtommy``: it's a laptop, it's actually a mobileified version of it09:44
TJ-k_sze: the 'key' thing to undestand is that GPG 2 uses gpg-agent to access private keys, and gpg2 (the program) calls the agent to get access to private keys09:45
TJ-statusfailed: problems with lac of text console TTYs with nvidia proprietary drivers are not uncommon, usually there is a message in the kernel log from the nvidia driver advising of that. Try "journalctl -b -p warning"09:47
jophishHI all09:47
tomreynhello there, jophish09:48
LuckyManSo... at what time will the iso land?09:48
statusfailedTJ-: hm, I don't think it's even using the NVIDIA card actually09:49
statusfailedlooks like it's an onboard AMD one09:49
statusfailedand ubuntu-drivers devices gives no output09:49
tomreynLuckyMan: sometimes between now and the end of the day.09:49
statusfailedand iiuc it should show the NVIDIA card09:49
tomreyn(unless it's postponed)09:50
jophishI'm having trouble using an external monitor on my laptop but am at a loss about how to debug this. After plugging in the usb-c->displayport cable to the monitor and the laptop XRandR doesn't display anything, dmesg does report some changes, but nothing that I can make sense of09:50
LuckyMantomreyn, great :-)09:50
jophishThis is the output of dmesg when I connect the monitor: https://gist.github.com/2308dde05e8f7f03c0223e756c1e5f7209:51
jophishThe diff of lspci without and with the monitor connected: https://gist.github.com/85f97d7004bd2fe0003f92247c8d0a4109:53
tomreynjophish: you did not tell, but i suspect tthis is ubuntu 18.04? a newer kernel may help there.09:55
tomreyn!ltse | jophish09:55
ubottujophish: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack09:55
hellerzHello guys, I'm trying to make a cron job for energymech , here is my cron line: */1 * * * * /home/wood/energymech-master/energymech , after 1 minute I get a new mail and after I open /var/mail/wood I get a line which say init: Couldn't open the file mech.conf , so where's the problem here?09:56
TJ-jophish: "BAR 15: failed to assign..." means the PCI device was unable to find sufficient free resources in the address map to add the Base Address Register 1509:56
jophishtomreyn: 16.04 actually (!) I'll try a newer kernel, good suggestion09:56
TJ-jophish: can you show us "sudo lspci -vvvnnk"09:57
tarzeauhellerz: where does energymech look for the mech.conf and where is mech.conf with the full path?09:57
jophishno problem09:57
tomreynjophish: oh then you're already on LTSE, i guess.09:57
tomreynjophish: i.e., +1 to TJ-09:58
jophishTJ-: https://gist.github.com/65df98e0ab70c69854c2dac7a71fdc8409:58
jophishAnd the diff without and with it plugged in: https://gist.github.com/cf6d21901470d413ab4e0c426d5a718b09:58
hellerztarzeau mech.conf is in the same path as energymech /home/wood/energymech-master/mech.conf10:01
hellerzwhen I try to run it manually it just run fine10:01
hellerzbut it doesn't run with crontab10:01
tarzeauwhen you run it manually you have an interactive shell with environment, in cron you don't have these10:02
tarzeauhellerz: does the binary/script have an option to take a full path to the config file maybe -c /some/place/mech.conf ?10:02
mgedminhellerz: try cd /home/wood/energymech-master && ./energymech10:04
mgedminin the crontab file, to change the working directory before running the program10:05
statusfailedTJ-: I think this is probably the issue: [drm:construct [amdgpu]] *ERROR* construct: Invalid Connector ObjectID from Adapter Service for connector index:2! type 0 expected 310:06
statusfailedno idea what it means though :D10:06
statusfailedI will do some googling10:06
statusfailedthanks for the journalctl -b warning tip10:06
jophishtomreyn: Think it's worthwhile to updating the kernel anyway? I'm currently on 4.15.0-6510:07
jophishI guess it can't hurt10:07
hellerztarzeau I tried to run it manually with ./energymech /home/wood/energymech-master/mech.conf10:08
hellerzand it run just fine10:08
tarzeauhellerz: then add that full path to mech.conf in your cronjob10:08
tarzeauhellerz: and it should work :)10:09
hellerztarzeau like this? */1 * * * * /home/wood/energymech-master/energymech /home/wood/energymech-master/mech.conf10:09
zen_coderhow do I auto start a script when I login with my user?10:09
tarzeauhellerz: yes10:09
zen_coderI created a `autostart` file in the config folder10:10
zen_coderbut it is not executed10:10
zen_coderdo I have to register this file?10:10
tarzeauzen_coder: what does the script do? i usually use .xsessiorc for that10:10
tarzeau.xsessionrc actually10:10
zen_coderit will start a jenkins agent10:11
zen_coderI use ubuntu 18.0410:12
heller_damn hellerz10:12
zen_coderall default, gnome desktop10:12
heller_your making me highligh :D10:12
tomreynjophish: i think it's worthwhile upgrading the ubuntu release.10:13
hellerztarzeau still doesn't work10:14
hellerzheller_ you should your nickname then =p10:15
hellerzchange your nickname*10:15
mgedminzen_coder: ~/.config/autostart/ is supposed to have .desktop files; it sounds like you tried to place a shell script in there?10:16
hellerzmgedmin you mean to change the cron line to look like this? */1 * * * * cd /home/wood/energymech-master && ./energymech10:16
zen_coderwhat are .desktop file?10:16
mgedminhellerz: yes10:16
mgedminzen_coder: https://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/10:17
jophishtomreyn: yeah, I probably should. I'll try a live disk10:17
hellerzmgedmin ya it works like a charm now10:17
hellerzthank you : )10:17
tomreynzen_coder: https://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/10:17
mgedminzen_coder: usually you'd find the desktop file shipped by the application you want to launch and copy/symlink that10:18
mgedminzen_coder: apps install their desktop files in /usr/share/applications/10:18
tomreynzen_coder: for autostarting processes from .desktop files on desktop start: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html10:19
jaddeHi all, I need hel pleas!10:20
soulissonHi, Is there somewhere in /proc/sys/ where I can check if NX is enabled?10:20
tomreynjadde: hi, help with? are your p and e key unreliable?10:21
jaddeI need help please! My mouse and keyboard get really slow10:21
tomreyn!details | jadde10:21
ubottujadde: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.10:21
jaddehtop doesn't show intensive cpu process10:21
hellerzmgedmin btw, It run the script multiple times by that line10:22
jaddeif I move the mouse around, the mouse pointer goes slow10:22
tomreynsoulisson: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i nx10:22
tomreynactually no need fo r-i10:23
tomreynactually no need for -i (to grep)10:23
jaddeif I tap keys on the keyboard in a fast way, only few of them are printed on screen10:23
soulissontomreyn, is there a way to disable it?10:23
jaddeubuntu 16.0410:23
tomreynsoulisson: maybe on your bios configuration screen.10:23
soulissontomreyn, ok, thanks10:24
hellerzmgedmin I need it to run only once and run it again if it get killed10:25
tomreynjadde: have you rebooted since this started happening, and did it help temporarily? is this a new ubuntu 16.04 installation? if not, what may have changed that introduced this problem?10:25
mgedminhellerz: write a systemd unit file10:26
jaddeI'm sorry but I haven't done anythig10:28
tommy``I'm experiencing a very slow boot and this seems the issue: https://imgur.com/a/SXS7W2Y any ideas?10:28
tomreynjadde: maybe try a reboot then, it may already help.10:30
tomreynjadde: if you'd like to examine what happened afterwards, you can still have a look at /var/log/syslog*10:32
hellerzmgedmin that's crontab alternative?10:34
jaddeis there any software to read syslog in a   coloured way10:34
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tarzeaujadde: lolcat /var/log/syslog ?10:35
Ben64good answer10:35
jophishTomreyn, I get an identical result with the 19.04 live disk sadly10:37
tomreynjophish: can you post    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999   from one of the two systems?10:38
jophishTomreyn https://termbin.com/ixw510:39
tomreynjophish: the nouveau (open source nvidia graphics driver) module keeps stalling occasionally since this system was booted. have you considered (A) using ubuntu-drivers to install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, (B) a bios upgrade?10:45
mgedminhellerz: crontab is for when you want to run some task periodically; some people use it as a (pretty poor) service management alternative10:46
jophishTomreyn, not sure I can use the nvidia drivers on this live disk, but I was using them on 16.04 without success.10:46
jophishHopefully I can upgrade the bios without windows10:46
mgedminhellerz: systemd is a proper service manager that can run a thing and restart it on failures10:46
hellerzmgedmin ah I see10:47
tomreynjophish: i see. the latest bios upgrade is at https://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukbsdt1/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=m6jtg&oscode=wt64a&productcode=xps-15-9560-laptop10:47
hellerzmgedmin I'm trying figure out how to do it10:47
hellerztrying to*10:47
mgedminhellerz: https://www.shellhacks.com/systemd-service-file-example/ seems a reasonable starting point10:49
hellerzmgedmin ya I'm there thank you10:49
mgedminhellerz: you'll want [Service] to have ExecStart=/home/wood/energymech-master/energymech, and a User=wood, and a WorkingDirectory=/home/wood/energymech-master10:51
zzlatevI run a memtest and while it work I can't do nothing. I don't know if it's normal10:51
mgedminzzlatev: it is normal10:51
zzlatevthank you10:51
tarzeaui've found memtester be reliable too to find mem problems10:52
zzlatevany idea why writes in swap?10:52
zzlatevI'm with a new ssd hdd10:53
tomreynjophish: so your current bios version (1.4.0 08/23/2017) is rather old, it's well possible (but also not guaranteed) that the newer bios version will provide better support for usb-c bridged displayport. i think you should also consider upgrading to 18.04, though, since this will generally provide a newer X stack and access to a newer proprietary nvidia driver version.10:53
zzlatevConstantly slowing down and hammering.10:54
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zzlatevguys, can you help me to find some channel where someone could help me? I don't know if ubuntu has something with my problem.10:58
duncan-nzsorry to bring a contentious topic. I'm having problem s with a slow-to-start system. One of the suggestions made on this channel is to remove snaps. Why should that be necessary?10:58
duncan-nzzzlatev, you're in the right place for ubuntu support10:59
duncan-nzzzlatev, so just state your problem and be patient10:59
zzlatevyes, but I don't know if ubuntu is the problem...10:59
duncan-nzjust to clarify, i understand why snaps are necessarily slower, but why would they be affecting my start-up times?11:00
duncan-nzzzlatev, can't help you without trying11:00
tomreynzzlatev: what is the problem you're trying to solve?11:01
tomreynzzlatev: the amount of swap being in use?11:02
tomreynzzlatev: the system being slow and unresponsive?11:03
zzlatevthe system being slow and responsive - very well said11:03
duncan-nztomreyn, hi there.11:04
tomreynzzlatev: how much RAM does this system have physically inustalled and available? if you don't know, please run:   free -hm 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999911:05
tomreynduncan-nz: hi there11:05
zzlatevtomreyn, thank you - https://termbin.com/e7yz611:06
kandinskihi, I had to fix a bad ubuntu install and somehow I managed to remove the gnome3 packages fo displaying battery and networking on the top right corner of what I guess is called gnome-shell11:07
kandinskithis is ubuntu 18.04, and Iguess I'm asking what is it that I have to reinstall and reactivate so I can have networking on the top right corner again. Right now the computer starts up and there's no network, and I have to run dhclient by hand before it has an IP11:07
tomreynduncan-nz: the more processes starting up at boot the slower the boot process. i don't think snaps are the main issue causing your (perceived?) slow boot, but they can contribute to it, since they need to be mounted during boot (which doesn't actually take long, usually less than a second per snap, but can add up)11:07
tomreynduncan-nz: so it's well possible there's another issue that's causing your boot to take longer than you'd like it to. i wasn't able to determine which the other day, though.11:09
tomreyn(maybe someone else can?)11:09
hellerzmgedmin I'm doing it right? https://gyazo.com/42adb8333b8936e714bbd6be55ad8cce11:10
tomreynzzlatev: so this system has a total of 4 GB RAM installed, the minimum requirement for ubuntu 18.04 and newer (which i assume you are running there?)11:10
duncan-nztomreyn, i just didn't realize that snaps need to interact with the system at all until they are called. As far as I have been able to conclude from doing a small amount of ready I should only prefer snaps if either a. security updates are time critical (browsers) or features updates are needed. Is that correct?11:10
tomreynzzlatev: there's a bit of memory swapped out, but not much, and it should not be constantly slowing the system down, so there has to be another resoin if it's constantly slow. is it?11:11
duncan-nztomreyn, I've just got the new battery so I will look into the bios update soon.11:11
jophishtomreyn: no dice after the bios upgrade sadly :/11:11
mgedminhellerz: you're missing [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target11:11
jophishsame symptoms11:11
jophishthanks for all the help anyway :)11:11
zzlatevtomreyn, like what? HDD?11:11
tomreynduncan-nz: personally i'd agree to this conclusion about snaps. i do not know whether cannoical sees it the same way, am worried they may not.11:12
tomreynjophish: do consider upgrading to 18.04, though, to benefit from the newer graphics stack, which may enable it.11:13
tomreynzzlatev: can you post a system log?   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999911:14
jophishWill do, thanks tomreyn11:14
hellerzmgedmin just did it. after doing systemctl start energymech and systemctl status energymech , I got the first line say Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/energymech.service; disabled; vendor pres11:14
hellerzActive: inactive (dead)11:14
zzlatevtomreyn, sure thing - https://termbin.com/uv4e11:15
duncan-nztomreyn, ;-)11:16
tomreynzzlatev: reading, give me a minute11:18
zzlatevtomreyn, thank you!11:19
funabashiHi if i want to send files to lets say 10 nix machines, what is an easy way of doing that?11:24
Cheezrsync is probably the easiest.11:24
adacMy server gets unresponsive (ssh fails, some apps that run on it are down/not reachable via web anymore) the only errors I found in syslog  at that time were. These are the errors https://pastebin.com/qDqvk2CM11:24
adacany ideas?11:24
Cheezit even supports batch mode so you only need to do the calculation of what to send once.11:24
hellerzmgedmin https://gyazo.com/d4029c754c42913a87463aed2bde8dc311:25
tomreynzzlatev: is the desktop also slow to respond after a full reboot (without suspend)?11:28
zzlatevwhat you mean by desktop? browsing folders?11:29
tomreynzzlatev: the graphical desktop as a whole. anything that is slow now, is it also slow after a full reboot (and during all the time until you suspend)?11:30
tomreynzzlatev: also, do you know what gnome-shell-extensions are, and if so, did you install several on your own?11:31
zzlatevhonestly, after full reboot, it's better11:31
zzlatevtomreyn, no, I didn't11:32
hellerzmgedmin systemd[1]: /etc/systemd/system/energymech.service:5: Executable path is not absolute: energymech11:32
zzlatevI don't know about gnome-shell-whatever..11:32
tomreynzzlatev: ok. i do see some OepnGL errors there, but i'm not sure what to make out of them. those errors can be a cause or result of lower graphics performance.11:34
zzlatevtomreyn, it makes sense11:36
zzlatevtomreyn, some kind of hdd test maybe?11:37
hellerzmgedmin is it something to do with permissions ?11:37
phzxI have a problem i cant figure out, i thought maybe someone here could help so i'll give it a shot11:37
zzlatevI don't know now really...11:37
tomreynzzlatev: there's are also some acpi issues when waking from suspend, which is why i asked about the difference.11:38
phzxso my teacher tells me to study the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then restart my computer, open the grub console, and then manually run all the commands to start my operating system11:38
phzxso i study the file, run the commands i think would work, and i got so far to get it running without GUI11:38
phzxbut i cannot figure out the GUI11:39
tomreynzzlatev: have you considered a bios upgrade for your this Aspire E5-511, BIOS V1.03 05/16/201411:39
phzxand i cannot figure out why the fuck hes making me do this, but here we are11:39
phzxas far as my understanding goes in the file i can see under my Ubuntu option all the commands run when chosen11:39
jcryptphzx: Sounds of frustration; I just joined. What's up?11:39
phzxi quote "so my teacher tells me to study the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then restart my computer, open the grub console, and then manually run all the commands to start my operating system"11:40
zzlatevtomreyn, I don't know how to do that, unfortunately11:40
phzxthats all fine11:40
phzxand i got it running without GUI11:40
phzxbut i cannot get it to boot with GUI and im not sure what im missing here11:41
jcryptphzx: I assume it boots to the graphical mode if you don't do things manually?11:41
tomreynzzlatev: it would require a windows installation to do it the way acer supports it. unless you have one, let's ignore this for now.11:41
phzxyes, there is nothing wrong with my installation11:41
jcryptphzx: Oh, I wasn't saying there was. Just making sure I understand the situation.11:42
zzlatevtomreyn, I don't have windows.11:42
zzlatevOK, I have to go to work. Can I touch with you later today or tomorrow?11:42
mgedminhellerz: ?11:42
phzxi run the commands from the file. recordfail. savedefault. load_video. gfxmode $linux-gfx_mode.11:42
phzxi insert mods11:42
tomreynzzlatev: if you later change your mind, they're listed at https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/support-product/5394?b=1  (maybe set a bookmark?) - note they're *not* listed in release order (the top most listed entry is not the latest)11:42
jcryptphzx: I want you to try something for me.11:43
phzxinsmod gzio, insmod xzio, insmod lzopio11:43
jcryptphzx: At the end of the "linux" line, add this: "systemd.unit=graphical.target"11:43
phzxinsmod part ms_mod. insmod ext2.11:43
phzxhmm okay11:43
jcryptActually, wait.11:43
jcryptThat target may not exist.11:43
phzxbecause the end i think i got figured, i just chose what dist, mount the dist and the boot the system11:43
zzlatevtomreyn, do you think that the upgrade could help on perfomance?11:44
jcryptphzx: Which version of Ubuntu?11:44
phzxthere it freezes11:44
phzxno custom11:44
phzxexcept the usual gui stuff11:44
jcryptphzx: Okay, let me take a look and make sure that target *actually* exists before I send you off to do dumb things.11:44
phzxlook at the file to start off with11:44
jcryptphzx: You could help me, if the system is booted.11:44
phzxi think this is a weird task because why would anyone ever have the need to do it11:45
jcryptKnowing how to work with grub is incredibly useful for system recovery.11:45
phzxthat i can agree with11:45
phzxbut recovery is one thing, starting my already working system11:45
phzxthere is a button for that :D11:45
tomreynzzlatev: it *may* fix problems which occur when the system returns from suspend. but less likely in fresh boot operation on this system.11:45
zzlatevtomreyn, OK, thank you for everything, really!11:46
zzlatevHave a nice day11:46
tomreynzzlatev: if you can be more specific on what is slow, this could help targetting it better11:46
phzxand i also have this feeling it shouldnt be that complicated, in the boot file there are an abundance of commands but if i just use the ones i need i dont think its all required11:46
zzlateveverything - hexchat, skype, viber, browser11:46
ioriaphzx, ls -l  /lib/systemd/system/default.target    will return your default target  (multi-user or graphical)11:47
tomreynzzlatev: maybe you can work on a tty for a few minutes and see whether you can work fine there.11:47
tomreyn!tty | zzlatev11:47
ubottuzzlatev: To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution11:47
jcryptphzx: Oh - you are loading the initramfs, right?11:47
tomreynzzlatev: this really only makes sense if you have experience with working on a temrinal, though11:48
tomreynzzlatev: output from "ls -l" should be instant there. also "touch /tmp/test" should return instantly11:49
jcryptUnrelated: Eagerly awaiting the eoan release.11:49
EriC^^phzx: it's incredibly useful if you want to understand how ubuntu boots11:49
tomreynzzlatev: i'll be back in ~5-10 minutes (feel free to wait or leave, as you need)11:50
phzxas i understand it i first run through some commands with are relatively random except when i load the video. then i insert mods because of some msdos cooperation in my system and then i identify and mount the kernel and run11:50
phzxin my mind if things very just wonderful the only things needed done would be11:51
kandinskiI had an issue with inconsistent package state on an 18.04 install which I fixed by uninstalling Python, and after fixing the inconsistent state I find I did something to the networking, and now I see two symtoms: 1) eth0 doesn't acquire IP on startup, I have to run dhclient manually. 2) Gnome-shell doesn't show the network icons on the top right corner of ghome-shell, despite having installed the11:51
kandinskiubuntu-ghome-desktop metapackage with the --reinstall switch.11:51
phzxgfkmode $linux-gfx_mode11:51
kandinskiCould anyone please help me recover this install? I'd rather not have to scupper it and reinstall.11:52
BluesKajHi folks11:52
phzxall insmod (could you break it with too many?)11:52
phzxand then "linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-65-generic root=UUID=eb66acc8-347e-4cbe-9587-33a753bf1f9 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff11:53
phzxand finally initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-65-generic11:53
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phzxbut maybe im not getting the whole picture here11:54
EriC^^phzx: how would you make a reverse microwave, that's the real question11:55
phzxwell i can answer you that11:55
phzxits called a cooler box or whatever11:55
phzxyou have a box with ice packs in it11:55
phzxnow you answer my problem xD11:55
jcryptEriC^^: I think that would be a macrowave.11:55
phzxinteresting twist11:56
EriC^^A+ for effort11:56
phzxa macrowave would be long wave radiation11:56
phzxim no expert but i think that means death11:56
phzxsooner or later11:56
ioriakandinski, if you use gnome-shell the proper pkg is not ubuntu-gnome-desktop, but just 'ubuntu-desktop'; i might suggest sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^   (-> with the caret); but if you did something weird with python not sure it will work11:56
EriC^^phzx: what do you need to know about grub?11:57
jcryptphzx: Nah. Long-wave radiation is just radio waves.11:57
phzxhow i start my operating system with full GUI by opening the grub command line and entering every command needed with my poor fingers11:57
phzxthank you education <3...11:57
phzxjcrypt, cool maybe it does something safe and awesome then11:58
mgedminkandinski: is network-manager-gnome installed?11:58
phzxi doubt it would make things cooler though11:58
phzxlike more cold11:58
plumbe0Hi. Until this morning my manual ipv4 wired lan connection worked perfectly, then suddenly (i can't recall doing anything network related on the machine) it stopped working and i could not reach internet anymore and other hosts in the lan couldn't ssh into the machine or reach the services exposed by it. if i set the connection to be automatic11:58
plumbe0everything works fine, but i need a static local ip11:58
EriC^^phzx: the stuff you need usually is just "insmod ext2" (to insert the module for ext*) and set root='(....)' to tell grub what the root is, then specify kernel and options and initrd, you have it down11:59
EriC^^if you do those it should boot to a gui11:59
ioriaunless he set the default target to multi-user12:00
phzxlet me show you soon exactly what i've tried and you can tell me if ive done it right or wrong, i should just make it in a link so i wont spam this chat12:00
kandinskiioria, thanks12:00
kandinskimgeadmin: yes12:00
EriC^^phzx: there is a way to cool stuff down, it involves shooting lasers with specific properties to slow down incoming atoms, it's not really feasible as a commercial 'reverse microwave' though12:01
EriC^^phzx: alright, sounds good12:01
absencea default install of ubuntu 19.04 has missing glyps for some web sites that use unicode symbols. what do i need to install to fix it?12:02
InteloCan anyone tell whats the version of nodejs in ubuntu 16 LTS?12:02
mgedminkandinski: if you open the system preferences from the top-right menu, can you see and connect to wireless networks there?12:03
mgedminkandinski: wait, or are we talking about wired etherner?12:03
EriC^^!info nodejs xenial | Intelo12:03
ubottuIntelo: nodejs (source: nodejs): evented I/O for V8 javascript. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4.2 (xenial), package size 3030 kB, installed size 12251 kB12:03
jStefanabsence, I believe this to be a per-font thing. You'd have to try a different font?12:04
InteloEriC^^,  I need v6+ . preferebly 10. How can I get it?12:04
kandinskimgedmin: no, I can't see any networking status, whether I click on the top right menu or just look at the taskbar. Yes, talking about wired ethernet.12:04
absencejStefan: i'm not a web developer, it's not my web site12:04
EriC^^Intelo: developer's site i guess?12:04
InteloEriC^^, node application12:05
absencejStefan: most likely i'm missing some kind of unicode fallback font12:05
EriC^^Intelo: it says v8 in the description above, not sure if that's what you mean12:05
mgedminkandinski: if you run nmcli in a terminal, what does it say about eth0?12:05
InteloEriC^^,  Version 4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4.2 (xenial),12:06
InteloEriC^^,  I need 6+ or 1012:06
EriC^^"evented I/O for V8 javascript"12:06
OerHeks!info nodejs12:06
ubottunodejs (source: nodejs): evented I/O for V8 javascript. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.10.0~dfsg-2ubuntu0.4 (bionic), package size 4731 kB, installed size 17586 kB12:06
EriC^^^ that's the version in 19.0412:06
jStefanIntelo, bionic (18.04LTS) has version 8.10 of nodejs12:06
InteloEriC^^,  I have this server on production. I cannot upgrade it12:07
phzxEriC^^: https://pastebin.com/wUKigN2q12:07
OerHeksIntelo, oh really?12:07
InteloOerHeks, ya.12:07
EriC^^phzx: link is down12:07
InteloOerHeks, upgrade can break few things.12:07
EriC^^Intelo: as i said, you could maybe download a version from the developer's site or a ppa they give etc, or maybe look into snaps possibly i dunno12:08
mgedminyou will have to upgrade sooner or later ...12:08
phzxworks for me12:08
phzxthats a new one btw12:08
phzxthat also works for me12:08
EriC^^phzx: odd, i guess it's an isp issue for me12:09
kandinskimgedmin: it says "unmanaged"12:09
mgedminphzx: you misspelled 'quiet' as 'quite' in your paste12:09
InteloEriC^^, OerHeks https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/kxjg9zHRSj/12:10
EriC^^working now12:10
phzxyeah well i spelled it right when doing it12:10
mgedminkandinski: excellent!  this means network-manager is not managing your ethernet, so you won't be able to control it from gnome-shell or gnome-control-center12:10
InteloEriC^^,  how to use a ppa?12:10
mgedminkandinski: if you want to be able to do that, figure out why network-manager thinks eth0 is unmanaged12:10
phzxbut yes you are correct12:10
kandinskimgedmin: thanks!12:10
EriC^^phzx: i dont think you need to put the stuff before the actual menu entry stuff12:10
mgedminkandinski: usually this happens when you have e.g. /etc/network/interfaces with hardcoded configuration for eth012:10
OerHeksmaybe nodejs 10 breaks your productionserver too12:10
kandinskimgedmin: this is not something I did12:11
InteloEriC^^, OerHeks it says 6 is latest, but I still have 4 even 12 was downloaded12:11
ioriakandinski, you probably set manually /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml  then12:11
phzxwhere does the menu entry stuff start?12:11
phzxmenu entry isnt a term that tells me much12:11
InteloOerHeks, node won't because I know it12:11
jStefanabsence, the website may have a list of fonts in priority order (CSS), you'd have to make sure you have the fonts the designer intended, otherwise you may be already falling back to font they didn't intend.12:11
kandinskiioria: not either12:11
EriC^^phzx: there's a typo in insmod ex2 missing the "t"12:11
EriC^^phzx: also it's set root not set_root12:11
ioriakandinski,    can you paste /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml12:11
kandinskiioria: but I think I did install netplan at one point, because it was in the dependency mess12:12
phzxok fine all that is fine, i had to write this now so i could send it to you12:12
phzxbut i can assure you i spelled it right when i tried it12:12
phzxand everything was as should be command wise12:12
phzxotherwise it would have told me12:12
mgedminkandinski: that might explain things!12:12
phzxthat doesnt exist12:12
mgedminkandinski: by default ubuntu 18.04 installs netplan.io on servers and network-manager on desktops, if I'm not mistaken12:12
phzxjust imagine it as perfect12:13
ioriakandinski,   netplan is not part of the ubuntu-desktop12:13
kandinskimgedmin: should I remove then?12:13
phzxthe important part is why doesnt it work12:13
mgedminkandinski: if you want to use network-manager to manage your network then yes, remove netplan.io12:13
plumbe0kandinski: sorry to hijack, what is your problem? i too have a wired network problem and i think it came after upgrading this morning12:13
EriC^^phzx: if the entry normally boots then it should boot, must be a typo somewhere12:13
absencejStefan: i guess it's not the year of the linux desktop yet, huh :P12:14
kandinskimgedmin: this doesn't seem to be the problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g85M4zCwT5/12:14
tommy``wrong window sorry12:14
phzxi cannot tell you if it normally boots since i havent been able to make it boot12:14
phzxthere are no typos in my syntaxes it would have told me12:14
ioriakandinski,  you can keep netplan, no issue in there if correctly set : paste ps -A | grep -i netw12:14
phzxthe syntaxes are from the boot file12:14
InteloEriC^^, ?12:14
kandinskiplumbe0: wired network is unmanaged, doesn't appear on gnome-shell menu, I need to dhclient manually12:14
EriC^^phzx: wait, the normal entry doesn't boot?12:14
phzx   /boot/grub/grub.cfg12:14
mgedminphzx: $linux-gfx_mode is also mistyped: should be $linux_gfx_mode12:15
kandinskiioria:   846 ?        00:00:00 NetworkManager12:15
phzxin my understanding im trying to run the commands under Ubuntu in my boot file which is the entry i start when i want to startubuntu12:15
absencejStefan: i don't know anything about css, so i guess i should find a windows machine for reading web sites with non-ascii symbols12:15
EriC^^phzx: if you press enter over "ubuntu" in grub does it boot?12:15
mgedminphzx: and my /boot/grub/grub.cfg computes the value of $linux_gfx_mode before trying to use it12:15
jStefanabsence, or may be a badly designed website, I don't have enough details to judge.12:15
ioriakandinski,  run from terminal :  nm-applet12:15
phzxmgedmin that is true12:15
phzxand that i might have misspelled12:15
phzxthank you for noticing12:15
kandinskiioria: it just showed up, thanks12:16
akemkandinski, maybe network-manager-gnome.12:16
phzxEriC^^, yes12:16
phzxofc :)12:16
kandinskiioria: says "device not managed" though12:16
ioriakandinski,  dpkg -l | grep network-manager | nc termbin.com 999912:16
kandinskiakem: I have network-manager-gnome running12:16
phzxbut ye im pretty much an amateur :D12:16
mgedminvt_handoff is also something computed to either an empty string or 'vt.handoff=1', when $linux_gfx_mode is 'keep'12:16
EriC^^phzx: it's cause you said you couldn't say if it normally boots :P12:16
jStefanabsence, maybe using browser developer tools you could inspect the element, and see what font it intends to use. Other than that, you'd have to read all the html and css manually, and deduct it from there.12:17
mgedmingfxmode is a function defined in my grub.cfg, not a grub builtin thing; it sets $gfxpayload and $vt_handoff12:17
phzxoh i mean yes it normally boots, i understood your question as does the commands normally make it boot which i do not know12:17
jStefanabsence, it may be as simple as adding a font to your system12:17
phzxmgedmin, im not even sure what all the commands does my original plan which im still working on is eliminating them one after one once i finally get it working12:17
EriC^^phzx: anyways, i'd strip down the stuff you're using, you just need "insmod part_msdos" "insmod ext2" set root='(hd0,msdos5)' linux /root/vmlinuz-4.15.0-65-generic root=UUID=eb65acc8-347e-4cbe-9587-33a753cbf1f9 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff and initrd /root/initrd.img-4.15.0-65-generic12:17
phzxuntil i get only what i need12:17
phzxbest code no code12:17
kandinskiioria, thanks for the quick and dirty pastebin trick!12:18
EriC^^phzx: if you want, dont use "quiet splash" and it might show what's happening while booting, if it keeps freezing12:18
kandinskieoria: everything is ^ii: https://termbin.com/4gva12:18
EriC^^phzx: make sure that this is in fact the same stuff you're usually using to boot, e.g press "e" over ubuntu in grub and see what's in that entry12:18
EriC^^kernel uuid etc12:19
EriC^^phzx: oh wow, typo found12:19
phzxthank you Eric, and all others, i will try this again in a moment and report back my hopeful success12:19
absencejStefan: yes, that's what i suspect, but i don't know what's a good fallback font for ubuntu. it's not something users care about, so i don't know why it's not there by default12:19
EriC^^phzx: it's linux /boot/vmlinuz ... and initrd /boot .... not linux /root/vmlinuz etc12:19
ioriakandinski,  cat /etc/network/interfaces12:20
EriC^^phzx: so that might be why12:20
phzxoh thats fine too, that must be an upload error for your viewing pleasure12:20
phzxbut the other type mr mgedmin said had creedence12:20
kandinskiioria: https://termbin.com/mlj0o12:21
phzxerhm, i did not mean that to happen but here you go12:21
phzxanyways its good you point out the typos, ty12:21
jStefanabsence, most people are fine with A-Z, I'm sure the fonts cover the most common unicode character, maybe the website uses something out of the ordinary.12:21
mgedminkandinski: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces too, please12:21
mgedminah I see you did already12:21
kandinskimgedmin: https://termbin.com/mlj0o12:21
mgedmindid you do 'service network-manager restart' after all your recent package/etc changes?12:22
phzxhey can anyone tell me the secret to marking a user like mgedmin:12:22
mgedminphzx: backlog is huge and somebody may have already mentioned it, but set root='hd0,msdos5' looks wrong to me; should be '(hd0,msdos5)' with the ( and )12:23
kandinskimgedmin: had not, but I just did12:23
jStefanabsence, it's not just a linux problem. There are websites that use fonts that simply don't come as default with an operating system. eg: a website that uses fonts that come only with a particular office suite.12:23
mgedminalso, what do you mean you want to mark me?12:23
kandinskimgedmin: and it still says "device not managed"12:23
absencejStefan: web browsers fall back to system fonts afaik?12:23
phzxmgedmin, how to do what you just did, mark me so you see my reply in green text12:23
jStefanabsence, i see your point12:24
mgedminkandinski: pastebin /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf please12:24
mgedminphzx: I mentioned your nickname in my message12:24
ioriakandinski,  try managed=true12:24
phzxso if i say mgedmin12:24
phzxyou see it in green?12:24
mgedminIRC clients normally highlight any lines that mention your nickname12:24
mgedminpurple, but yes12:24
phzxi c, great!12:24
absencejStefan: so the problem is a missing system font, that for some reason isn't installed by default. trying to install some random ones to see what happens12:24
EriC^^phzx: you can type the first few letters then press "tab" so it autocompletes too12:25
phzxmgedmin about the () my file doesnt have so its probably not needed12:25
phzxEriC^^, that i knew except i wondered why mine produces a , instead of a :12:25
phzxthought i was doing something wrong12:26
EriC^^phzx: nah, just a client setting12:26
jStefanabsence, the fallback thou is not always 1 option, the website may define various fallback fonts that the system will try to match. One of those fonts on the list may be a font that is not fully developed, not necessarily a default font for the system.12:26
phzxgon fix that, i prefer the :12:26
plumbe0Since this morning my homeserver seems unreachable from other hosts in the LAN: i can't ssh into it and i can't connect to the web services it exposes. the error is always "Connection refused". I use a manual wired ethernet connection managed by network manager on ubuntu desktop 19.04. When i set the connection to "Automatic" everything works12:26
plumbe0again, but i need the static ip.12:26
phzxEriC^^: there12:26
kandinskimgedmin: NetworkManager.conf https://termbin.com/krgu12:27
InteloHow to add something in $PATH permanently?12:27
mgedminkandinski: looks good, and now I'm thinking how to check the other config files in /etc/NetworkManager/12:27
jStefanabsence, the website may have a list like: 1-fancy font, 2-ugly font, 3-generic font. where generic would be the system default, and ugly is a font that happens to be installed, but it's not fully developed. and lets say fancy is not available on a particular system.12:28
EriC^^Intelo: for 1 user or all?12:28
absencejStefan: i don't care about what the web site specifies, i just want a font that contains symbol glyphs12:28
InteloEriC^^,  al12:28
EriC^^Intelo: /etc/environment12:28
InteloEriC^^,  how?12:29
absencejStefan: fonts-symbola seems to work. i wonder why it's not installed by default when it solves the problem12:29
InteloEriC^^,  I just nano it?12:29
EriC^^Intelo: yeah12:29
jStefanabsence, can you dm me the website?12:29
mgedminkandinski: let's try this: pastebin the output of networkctl list12:29
mgedminbecause it might be systemd-networkd managing eth0, which I think would also make network-manager leave it alone12:29
absencejStefan: it's https://github.com/dhall-lang/dhall-lang/wiki/Built-in-types,-functions,-and-operators12:30
jStefanabsence, glad you found a fix12:30
mgedmin(unlikely, since your netplan config showed it using the network-manager)12:30
ioriakandinski,  change  managed=false with managed=true and   run sudo service network-manager restart12:30
kandinskimgedmin: https://termbin.com/zzz8z12:31
mgedminioria: eh, /etc/network/interfaces doesn't mention eth0, so why would tweaking the [ifupdown] section in NetworkManager.conf affect anything?12:31
kandinskiI'm sorry, it's called enp3s012:31
mgedminkandinski: that's fine, so when you mentioned eth0 before, you meant enp3s0?12:31
kandinskiI called it eth0 out of muscle memory, but it's enp3s012:31
kandinskiyeah, very sorry12:31
netcrashHello, where is defined the default colors for bash PS1?12:32
kandinskiit's like using "kleenex" for a generic tissue12:32
mgedminkandinski: so I get almost the same, except on my 19.04 system networkctl also prints 'WARNING: systemd-networkd is not running, output will be incomplete.' at the top12:32
mgedminkandinski: by which can I assume systemd-networkd is running on your system?12:32
kandinskimgedmin: hmm12:32
mgedminservice systemd-networkd status12:32
mgedminsays 'Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled)' and 'Active: inactive (dead)' for me12:33
mgedminwhat does it say for you?12:33
kandinskiloaded, disabled, inactive (dead)12:33
kandinskiright, I started now12:34
kandinskistopped it again12:35
kandinskiloaded, disabled, inactive (dead) again12:35
mgedminkandinski: at this point I'm running out of ideas; I'd run journalctl -u NetworkManager -b and read the log messages to see what N-M thinks about enp3s012:35
ioriakandinski,  change  managed=false with managed=true and   run sudo service network-manager restart ; you can easily revert it12:35
mgedminmaybe it'll say why it decides not to manage it12:35
kandinskiioria: sure!12:35
ioriado itù12:36
mgedminoh, I just realized the current state of /etc/network/interfaces might not match the runtime state in /run/ifupdown or wherever12:36
kandinskidevice not managed and also "You are now offline"12:37
kandinskiwhich is demonstrably false :)12:37
mgedminno details?  no reasons?12:38
mgedmin(have you tried ioria's suggestion yet?)12:38
kandinskimgedmin: yes, the "device not managed and also 'You are now offline'" was the output of restarting network-manager with managed=true12:38
ioriakandinski,  revert it to false and sudo systemctl restart network-manager12:39
kandinskiioria: done12:40
ioriakandinski,  dmesg | tail12:40
kandinskiioria, mgedmin, output of https://termbin.com/zzz8z is a lot of info plus these warnings; https://termbin.com/b26412:41
mgedminwrong link?  zzz8z is networkctl output, not dmesg; b264 looks like journalctl, not dmesg12:42
kandinskiioria: dmesg shows nothing new/interesting, same lines as before running network-manager restart12:42
kandinskiyes, sorry, mispaste12:42
kandinskimeant to say: output of journalctl -u NetworkManager -b is a lot of info plus these warnings; https://termbin.com/b26412:43
mgedminkandinski: everything looks good to me!12:45
kandinskimgedmin: I'll reboot. See you in 5!12:45
mgedminwhat happens if you try to enable the wired network in system preferences?12:45
kandinskiit's not there12:45
kandinskiI see VPN and "Network Proxy"12:46
kandinskiRebooting now...12:46
ioriakandinski,  it might be related with those additional pkgs you installed : network-manager-openvpn and network-manager-ssh-gnome  (i don't use them, i cannot tell)12:47
plumbe0Since this morning my homeserver seems unreachable from other hosts in the LAN: i can't ssh into it and i can't connect to the web services it exposes. the error is always "Connection refused". I use a manual wired ethernet connection managed by network manager on ubuntu desktop 19.04. When i set the connection to "Automatic" everything works12:48
plumbe0again, but i need the static ip.12:48
mgedminplumbe0: how are you trying to connect -- using the hostname or the IP address?12:49
pragmaticenigmaplumbe0: Are you certain that the static IP that you're attempting to assign isn't already in use by another device on the network?12:49
plumbe0mgedmin: using the internal ip address (
kandinskihi folks, same problem after rebooting. I'm now removing the extra packages ioria pointed out.12:50
pragmaticenigmaplumbe0: I personally don't set static IP addresses on my servers, instead I configure my DHCP server to assign a static/reserved IP address to a particular MAC address.12:50
plumbe0pragmaticenigma: pretty sure, the dhcp pool is .128-.254 and only a few devices have static ip12:50
mgedminplumbe0: is it in the right subnet?12:50
mgedmincan you ping it?12:51
plumbe0pragmaticenigma: i have a crap modem/router from my isp, i wouldn't rely on that thing12:51
plumbe0mgedmin: yes, ping works fine12:52
pragmaticenigmaplumbe0: You can always place a preferred router behind the ISP supplied one12:52
hellerzmgedmin did I miss anything? Sorry I was afk13:13
mgedminhellerz: dunno, I was afk and got a small flood of your notifications and ended up confused as to the current state of affairs13:14
adacMy server gets unresponsive (ssh fails, some apps that run on it are down/not reachable via web anymore) the only errors I found in syslog  at that time were. These are the errors https://pastebin.com/qDqvk2CM any ideas?13:16
hellerzmgedmin ah sorry about that. Here is the current status when I type systemctl status energymech "Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/energymech.service; disabled; vendor presnergymech.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead)"13:16
adacSorry I posted this before but was busy and got disconnected13:16
hellerzmgedmin note that I don't get any error when I start it13:17
tomreynadac: did you check whether you got replies then, though?13:18
tomreynadac: this channel is logged to https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/13:19
mgedminadac: can't fork, wow -- the server either ran out of RAM, or a fork bomb of some kind filled up the process table up until the limit13:20
mgedminhellerz: does it show any log entries?  maybe pastebin the output of systemctl status energymech13:21
mgedminhellerz: also, question: did you run sudo systemctl daemon-reload after editing the service file?13:21
* tomreyn guesses that adac is busy and will get disconnected13:22
mgedminhellerz: and another question: did you run systemctl enable energymech and systemctl start energymech? after the daemon-reload?13:22
adactomreyn, tahnks will check the logs!13:28
adacmgedmin, ok I see. Actually RAM should be more then enough but I will add some monitoring now13:28
adacmgedmin, how can I see if it was a fork bomb?13:29
hellerzmgedmin I did run systemctl enable energymech and systemctl start energymech after the daemon-reload13:29
mgedminadac: I like collectd!  you can come back later and look at the graphs before the crash and see e.g. the number of processes growing up13:29
adacMean does it leave traces somewhere in the system/log13:29
mgedminadac: atop is another nice forensics tool; it captures system state snapshots every 10 minutes and you can look at cpu/memory/disk io stats and what processes were running/starting/exiting later13:30
mgedminwith sudo atop -r13:30
mgedmin(without -r it shows realtime stats)13:30
adacmgedmin, actually I was in the process of building up Elastic stack with elastic beats, but not finished with it yet. True I could temporarly enable this collectd or similar!13:30
mgedminthe best thing about collectd is that it works without any setup13:31
adacmgedmin, awesome that are good advises I will certainly have a look into these tools! thanks again!13:31
mgedminwell, it collects information without any setup; to view the graphs you need to install a frontend etc.13:31
adacyes that is what I need then a quick and easy solution like this collectd tool13:31
mgedminatop is zero setup, but the 10-minute frequency of snapshots is a bit too coarse, a problem might arise and kill the machine sooner than atop will notice13:32
mgedminand it's not a nice to stare at text tables instead of graphs; problems don't jump out at you as much even with atop's highlighting13:33
adacmgedmin, k that even might be better then in reagrd of confiuration effort. Maybe one can increase the frequency?13:33
adactrue graphics are nice13:34
hellerzmgedmin here you go: https://pastebin.com/DqersF0913:34
statusfailedThis PPA[1] seems to have a newer version of "nvidia-settings" available, but I don't know how to install it because the name clashes with one in the main repos13:34
statusfailed[1] https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa13:34
statusfailedhow do I tell apt to install nvidia-settings from that specific ppa?13:35
OerHeksstatusfailed, as it is newer, adding that ppa and update would install it automatic13:36
tomreynstatusfailed: that's if the newer version is for your ubuntu release13:36
statusfailedOerHeks: it doesn't- I've done "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt upgrade" and "sudo apt install nvidia-settings --reinstall" and I still get the 418 version13:36
statusfailedit seems like there's even multiple versions in that repository13:36
OerHeksfor what ubuntu version ?13:37
mgedminstatusfailed: for different ubuntu releases!13:37
mgedmine.g. https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=disco shows only the versions for 19.0413:37
mgedminand you can see that nvidia-settings in the ubuntu archive is newer than the version in the PPA13:38
statusfailedah I see!13:38
OerHeksthere is a drawbox for version13:38
statusfailedyup, gotcha13:38
mgedminstatusfailed: also, you can use apt-cache policy nvidia-settings to see what different versions are available from the repos you've enabled13:38
statusfailedmgedmin: ahh I was trying to find that earlier, thanks!!13:39
statusfailedso what's the ubuntu version that the nvidia-settings 435 is for?13:40
statusfailedit says 0ubuntu2, but doesn't have a version number like 19.0413:40
mgedminhellerz: it's weird; maybe Type=simple is wrong for energymech?  Maybe you need Type=forking or something?  I've no idea what energymech is or how it works13:41
OerHeksfor eoan, play with the version setting13:41
hellerzmgedmin I didn't type any Type= on energymech.service file . Btw, energymech is a bot like eggdrop = IRC bot13:42
statusfailedOerHeks: sorry didn't quite follow you ?13:43
OerHeksstatusfailed, you just look at packages and numbers, first select *your* ubuntu verion in the dropdown menu13:44
OerHeksand don't try to mix packages from other versions13:44
hellerzmgedmin after adding Type=simple , status look like this: https://pastebin.com/vKbuTuTy13:45
hellerzmgedmin changed it to forking and It's active now!13:47
hellerzthank you mate13:47
hellerzmgedmin so now I have reboot my server and after it boot , the service didn't run automatically . how can I make it run automatically ?14:15
hellerzmgedmin I believe I got it, nvm14:16
mgedminhellerz: systemctl enable14:16
hellerzya thank you14:16
hiigHi, quick question. The following link from the Ubuntu wiki gives me a 404: http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.10/ Does anyone have a working link?14:23
hiigSame as http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/19.10/release/14:23
mgedminit's not out yet14:24
JimBuntuhiig, that link isn't shown in  http://releases.ubuntu.com yet14:24
JimBuntuShould be out some time today, but could take additional time to be available everywhere14:24
hiigSo I'm guessing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes is just a page prepared in advance, with placeholder links then? Alrighty, thanks.14:25
hiigI'm probably going to sound impatient for asking this, but do you know if there is a specific time it will be released? Want to figure out if I should stay awake or go to sleep.14:25
ioriahiig, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/14:25
lordcirthhiig, it will be there in the morning :)14:26
lordcirthOr you can download the daily now14:26
mgedmin"specific time" is "as soon as it is ready (which means when people finish testing all the images, assuming they don't find critical bugs)"14:27
mgedminyou can join #ubuntu-release-party where all the users are waiting eagerly14:27
hiigOh, sweet. Thanks14:28
hiigActually, speaking of the daily, I've always wondered, but never thought to ask: If you download a daily build, would it update normally? Say, I had a daily from a week ago. If I were to apt update/upgrade after an official release, would things still work?14:30
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ioriahiig, yes14:37
hiigioria: Righty, so say I wanted to opt in for these daily builds in the future. For instance, if I installed 19.10 now, and then wanted to try the 20.04 daily whenever it gets released. Would I need to wipe and install a fresh copy, or can I just edit sources.list?14:41
ioriahiig, i guess you can use do-release-upgrade14:42
ioriahiig, after setting it to LTS (instaead of normal)14:42
OerHeksdo-release-upgrade -d = development14:43
OerHeksdon't edit sources list14:43
ioriahiig, yeah, -d14:44
hiigAlrighty, taking notes here.14:44
hiigSo now the situation is going from 19.10 > -d > daily build. Would I then need to run that command for every new daily that is released, or would it update as normal?14:45
ioriahiig, update as normal14:46
hiigPerfect, thanks for the info14:47
OerHeksyay, iso's are rolling14:51
JimBuntuhiig, http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.10/ubuntu-19.10-desktop-amd64.iso14:52
hiigCheers, already downloaded at 15%14:52
jophishtomreyn: Good news, I think it's the cable which is not working. I pulled out a usb-c->HDMI cable and although it doesn't support the screen's native resolution I can get a picture out of through the DP-1-1 interface14:52
jophishI'll get a different cable tomorrow and check14:53
jophishThanks for the thoughtful advice earlier, as a thank you could I donate a couple of bucks to some OS project on your behalf?14:54
tomreynjophish: i had noticed that the screen identification had failed for the hdmi screen (returning all zeros), just forgot to tell you that when i had to go.14:54
tomreynso this can be the cable indeed14:55
jophishtomreyn: for any future debugging for me, where in the log is that?14:56
tomreynjophish: i don'T think i have the log file opened anymore. if you can get me the link again?14:57
jophishtomreyn: https://termbin.com/ixw514:57
jophishedid for DP-1 isn't even there14:57
timvisherI have a 16.04 box with virtualbox-6.0 installed on it. I am seeing an error I've never seen before. If I run `VBoxManage --version; read -r foo < <(VBoxManage --version); echo "$foo"; bash -lc 'VBoxManage --version'; IFS='.r' read -ra foo < <(VBoxManage --version 2>/dev/null); echo "${foo[@]}"` I see `6.0.14r133895\n6.0.14r133895\n6.0.14r133895\nUnknown application - us`. If I remove the /dev/null redirection I see an error about ps14:58
timvisherusage and the following `error: user name does not exist`. I can't find any information at all about an error like that. Anyone have any ideas?14:58
tomreynjophish: you'Re right, i must have mixed your log up with one of the others i was looking at today14:59
zzlatevtomreyn, hey again, is there anyway to do it without windows :)14:59
tomreynzzlatev: what is "it"?14:59
zzlatevthe upgrade of bios14:59
OerHeksdepends on the bios version, if it accepts an USB with the update15:00
zzlatevand is there anyway to test ssd?15:00
amnixI'm seeing a few articles online about 19.10 having been released but I don't see a download link available on the website. Has it been released yet? If not, when will it be?15:01
tomreynzzlatev: the bios upgrade is an "insyde" one. acer only supports upgrading it under windows (insyde provides bios upgrade utilities for multiple platforms, including uefi and linux)15:03
thingfishamnix: http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.10/ubuntu-19.10-desktop-amd64.iso15:03
tomreynzzlatev: i started documenting this here, but it's far from complete, and can't be clamed for bricked computers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FimwareUpgrade/Insyde15:04
OerHeksamnix, patience, or use torrents https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index15:04
tomreynzzlatev: there's also a chance that the bios configuration screen offers an option to load a bios upgrade file from a usb key - this would be the easiest one, worth checking (but IIRC insyde bios doesn'T support this)15:05
tomreynzzlatev: to get an idea of the drive state, use "smartctl -x /dev/sdX" (replace 'X' by storage ID, "a" for the first sata storage). smartctl is part of the 'smartmontools' package15:07
tomreyn!smartctl | zzlatev15:08
tomreyn!smart | zzlatev15:08
ubottuzzlatev: smart is Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology, a monitoring system for hard drives. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools15:08
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zzlatevtomreyn, ubottu , thank you guys. I will try now15:19
zzlatevPlease wait 10 minutes for test to complete.15:29
zzlatevtomreyn, but never ends...15:29
tomreynzzlatev: so i could guess that what you posted above was not somethign you were telling this channel to do but output sfrom one of the applications you have recently run?15:30
hellerzmgedmin I need to make it re-run that service when it get killed/crashed , etc . what should I put after Restart= ?15:31
timvisherFor the 0 of you following along at home, the fix was `IFS='.r' read -ra virtualbox_version < <(IFS= VBoxManage --version)`. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to guess as to why.15:31
hellerzmgedmin Restart=always?15:31
k_szeGod I hate gnupg215:32
OerHeksk_sze, wrong channel, try ##church15:32
k_sze`gpg2 -K` lists my secret key, but `gpg2 --quick-add-uid` says "no secret key", wtf?15:32
mgedminhellerz: probably!  I haven't had to deal with crashing services much15:33
lesshastehow can I record the time and size of every TCP packet going to/from my PC? tshark looks like it might do it but I don't see how to record packet sizes15:34
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tomreynlesshaste: make it record fuill packets then you can inspect the size (of those not dropped) later.15:35
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tomreynlesshaste: tcpdump -s0   does this, i don't rmemeber about tshark15:35
lesshastetomreyn, oh that's cool. I am happy to use tcpdump15:36
zzlatevtomreyn, what I have posted?15:36
tomreynzzlatev: <zzlatev> Please wait 10 minutes for test to complete.15:36
zzlatevyes, when I start with "sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda"15:37
zzlatevnow when I try again - Can't start self-test without aborting current test (30% remaining),15:38
mgedminwow that's fast15:38
doug16kinteresting, my system is showing 16GB memory used, 50GB cached. rounding I guess? Haven't seen cache that big before15:38
doug16k(16+50 = 66, I have 64GB)15:38
mgedminmetric vs binary units?15:38
zzlatevI will wait and try with "sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda" to view the result15:39
doug16kya maybe15:39
lesshastetomreyn, can tcpdump give you a time stamp too?15:39
doug16ks/maybe/must be/15:39
ioriasudo tcpdump -tttt15:39
lesshasteioria, thanks!15:39
tomreynzzlatev: good planning!15:40
lesshastethe first thing I have learned is the large proportion of 0 length packets!15:40
TJ-lesshaste: do you mean payload size, because by definition a TCP packet has at least its header15:41
tomreynzzlatev: long self tests can take a days, though, and the guesstimations it provides on the ETA tend to be pretty wrong. better do a short test in the future, unless you are happy to wait this long.15:41
tomreyn*a day15:42
lesshasteTJ-,  I am just reading off what tcpdump -s0 reports.15:42
lesshasteTJ-,  is that payload size?15:43
zzlatevtomreyn, it says 10 minutes for long?15:43
doug16kacknowledgements will often have just IP+TCP header, and no payload15:44
doug16kmust have a lot of one-way TCP streams happening15:45
lesshastedoug16k, I have much to learn about TCP/UDP15:45
lesshastedoug16k, it's just my home PC15:45
doug16ker, mostly one way. sounds like a typical web browsing workload. send a little header, mostly get a huge responses15:46
tomreynzzlatev: this appears to be a question even though you wrote it like a statement. i cannot answer this question, since i do not operate the system you are running this on.15:47
doug16k...and the huge responses require you to send a lot of no-payload acknowledgements15:48
zzlatevtomreyn, 2 more minutes ...15:50
TJ-lesshaste: -s is --snapshot-length and =0 means the default snap size of 256KB15:51
lesshasteTJ-, ah in it records 256KB worth and then stops ?15:51
tomreynzzlatev: please be sure to also report to me when 1 minute is left.15:52
TJ-lesshaste: no, per packet15:52
zzlatevtomreyn, sorry about that15:52
zzlatevok, without errors.15:52
lesshasteTJ-, sorry I don't understand. A packet can't be more than 1440 bytes long I thought15:53
TJ-lesshaste: the 'length 0" is usually ACK packets and as I said refers to the payload size15:53
zzlatevtomreyn, Do you suggest to upgrade RAM? And how can I check how much this laptop supports?15:53
jrgilmanI assume that even though 19.10 came out today, we won't be able to do a 19.04 -> 19.10 upgrade just yet? Is there an ETA on that being available?15:54
lesshasteTJ-,  sure but what does  snap size of 256KB refer to?15:54
doug16klesshaste, not strictly true. it will be MTU minus the size of headers, which can vary. if you mean typically, then sure, typically MTU is 1500 (or 1492) and headers are typically 40 bytes, so max payload is typically 1460 or 1452 bytes15:54
lesshastedoug16k, thanks15:54
TJ-lesshaste: see https://serverfault.com/questions/976474/why-tcpdump-has-262144-as-default-capture-size15:54
lesshasteI am still trying to work out how to interpret the output. 1571327266.244457 IP dns.google.domain > 8754 NXDomain 0/0/0 (45)15:55
lotuspsychjejrgilman: come join at #ubuntu-release-party15:55
lesshasteTJ-, thanks15:55
tomreynzzlatev: please /join ##hardware for hardware questions15:56
lesshastedoug16k, how is the 256KB figure compatible with the figures you gave?15:56
tomreynzzlatev: the minimum requirement for ubuntu 18.04 and newer with the default gnome-shell desktop is 4 GB RAM15:56
zzlatevOK, thank you for everything15:56
tomreynyou're welcome15:57
zzlatevI have 4GB for ubuntu 18.04 but this is the only thing that might be the problem15:57
mgedminlesshaste: <timestamp> <protocol??> <source>.<port> <direction> <destination>.<port>: <data> (NXDomain looks like a DNS response)15:57
zzlatevThank you once again!15:57
TJ-lesshaste: At Thu 17 Oct 16:47:46 BST 2019 an IP packet from dns.google port 53 was received on port 50121 and was partially deciphered as a DNS protocol response of NXDOMAIN15:57
mgedmin8754 is DNS query ID maybe?  45 is probably payload length?15:58
mgedmin(why does it say IP and not UDP?)15:58
lesshasteTJ-, oooh.. so where do you see port 53 in that line?15:59
mgedminthe '.domain' part, if you check /etc/services you'll see that domain is udp/5315:59
TJ-"domain" -- use -n and it won't use DNS resolving or service name resolving (from /etc/services)15:59
doug16klesshaste, 256KB is utterly pessimistic. it shouldn't need anywhere near that amount15:59
mgedminwireshark has nicer UI for inspecting packet contents; you can use tcpdump to record a packet capture file and then open it with wireshark16:00
lesshastedoug16k, ah ok. thanks16:00
doug16kdefault should handle outrageously worst case scenario16:01
lesshasteI can see I am going to have a lot of fun deciphering this stuff16:01
lesshastethanks all.. I may come back later16:01
lesshasteoh one thing.. I can't see where it says it is TCP traffic. e.g 1571328125.441002 IP > Flags [.], seq 1111381:1112833, ack 1068, win 31, length 145216:02
lesshasteis there part of the line that tells me it is TCP?16:02
mgedminthe seq/ack/win bits imply TCP16:02
lesshasteah ok thanks.16:03
lesshastewhat is win?16:03
mgedminwindow size16:03
mgedminyou may find http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/disco/en/man8/tcpdump.8.html#output%20format helpful16:04
doug16kneither TCP or IP need to be over ethernet, and the 1500 thing comes from ethernet frames, so the 1500 thing is beside the point16:04
lesshasteperfect, thanks16:04
TJ-lesshaste: use "-v" to see the protocol16:06
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tomreyncan anyone confirm that the "sw" mount option for swap devices is no longer used needed on 18.04?16:21
tomreynused / needed16:21
ioriatomreyn, in fstab you mean ?16:23
bilb_onowhat do I do when eog JPG-file-path just hangs?16:24
bilb_onothis is a jpg file on a mount drive that I am trying to see16:24
bilb_onoso maybe it could be weird permissions... or something.16:25
bilb_onoI am root user - using sudo -s16:25
EriC^^bilb_ono: with gui apps you want to use "sudo -i" or "sudo -H /path/to/gui-app"16:26
bilb_onoEriC^^, hmm it hangs with those too16:28
tomreynioria: yes16:28
pragmaticenigmaIt's also good practice to avoid using root to run application unless it is the only way. If you believe you have a file permissions issue, better to change the permissions of the file than to force an application to run as root.16:28
bilb_onofile says: /mnt/prod4www/data/FILE_TEST_RECORDS/FD/FD63F8B8-0AC9-4571-8E83-21E5B2C648A1: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01, aspect ratio, density 1x1, segment length 16, baseline, precision 8, 255x255, frames 3.16:28
pragmaticenigmabilb_ono: Can the file be opened with a different tool or viewer?16:28
bilb_onoits weird that its 3 frames right?16:29
pragmaticenigmabilb_ono: There is a format for JPEG that allows for multiple picture format, which allows multiple frames to be placed inside a single image file16:30
pragmaticenigmathey allow things like the original image to be saved with a thumbnail, in the same file16:31
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ioriatomreyn, yeah, not sure it does really anything16:31
tomreynioria: from what i read, it used to be an indicator for init scripts to swapon a swap partition, but current man pages no longer mention this, and the 19.10 desktop installer no longer sets this mount option. so i guess it's no longer relevant.16:42
ioriatomreyn, yep, itis on BSD maybe, not on linux16:42
tomreynwell it used ot be set by ubuntu 16.0416:42
ioriatomreyn, also (by default) on 18.0416:43
ioriatomreyn, i have it16:43
tomreynioria: on a system installed with...?16:43
ioriatomreyn, 18.04 media (fresh install)16:44
tomreyni see, it was probably missed to be dropped at the time.16:44
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tomreynthe other thing i'm wondering about is the ext4 journal feature "journal_incompat_revoke". i can't seem to find much documentation on it, and see that 19.10 no longer uses it, at least not the one i just installed, but my 18.04 one has it.16:46
tomreyndumpe2fs -h /dev/... | grep '^Journal features:'16:47
ioriatomreyn, i think is a 5.3 kernel feature16:52
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tomreynioria: which one? the ability to drop ext4's "journal_incompat_revoke" journal feature?16:56
ioriatomreyn, idk exactly; but i know that 5.3 brigs an 'EXT4 Speed improvements for case-insensitive look-ups'16:58
tomreynhttps://access.redhat.com/discussions/3302541 discusses it17:01
tomreynso apparently this is a single (or few) block where information on blocks which used to be metadata blocks is stored in, and this can (or could?) help to speed up file system recovery when needed.17:05
ioriatomreyn, yes, and replaced by the new feature (that is a also a temporary caching to speed up) : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=EXT4-Changes-For-Linux-5.317:07
tomreynioria: i don't think the two are related really. thanks for exmainign this with me, though!17:11
lotuspsychjewelcome Gen8617:20
Gen86got a small problem (it's actually xubuntu since old comp) but anyway it's a buzzing from headphones17:21
Gen86no matter what headphones17:21
Gen86I only started using linux this year so im still fairly new17:21
Gen86also don't know if it has to do with me using an old mac that someone was throwing out to do this17:22
Gen86it was fine it was just old and i saved it with linux17:23
Gen86I did a "green" thing :)17:23
Gen86i'm inside the alsamixer thing to see if it was vol and nothin was changing17:24
Gen86it says my card is hda intel and Realtek ALC889A chip17:25
pragmaticenigmaGen86: Buzzing in headphones is usually related to a bad connection in the headphone jack, or a bad DAC on the motherboard. There is little to nothing that can be done from the Operating System side17:25
Gen86Ah ok17:25
Gen86Ill look at the cables17:25
Gen86I was just making sure something did break17:25
Gen86I was a former windows 7 (and windows since 3.1) user i saw what 10 was like and im like screw that i aint installing that17:26
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Gen86Ill check my cables and see thanks17:27
Gen86maybe find another set of speakers17:27
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Soul_SampleHello! How does one troubleshoot networking when it kind of works? I have issues when downloading updates or using wget or downloading stuff through my browser, the download speed just drops to 0 and eventually times out. Steam downloads work fine, I can watch 5 youtube videos at the same time, torrents download without problems, and my phone doesn't have any issues. I have no idea how to approach this problem17:39
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tomreynioria: just in case you're interested, i think i found out about ext4 journal feature flag "journal_incompat_revoke". The code (https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/include/linux/jbd2.h) calls this JBD2_FEATURE_INCOMPAT_REVOKE, it apparently indicates that this file system journal is incompatible with the 'revoke' descriptor block journal feature, so i assume that tune2fs would disallow adding this feature to the existing file system17:49
tomreynwhich has this journal feature flad set.17:49
ioriatomreyn, yes, is about jbd217:50
tomreynright, it's a journalling feature so this makes sense.17:52
ryuoSoul_Sample: how reproducible is the issue?17:53
Soul_Sampleryuo, i'm experiencing it right now, i have a download that stopped at roughly 50% and it's not going anywhere17:54
ryuoSoul_Sample: can you reproduce it with an apt update?17:54
doug16kSoul_Sample, I'd look at the percentage of retransmits in `netstat -s|grep segments`17:54
ryuoI have my own ideas. I've had issues before with bad ipv6 networks.17:55
doug16kretransmitted divided by sent out should be < 0.02 at most17:55
ryuowhich could explain the differences.17:55
ryuobut it needs to be tested.17:55
Soul_Samplei have 503247 received, 493984 sent, 3646 retransmitted, 9 bad received17:56
doug16kideally 100x better than that. mine is 0.001517:56
doug16kthat's good17:56
lordcirthJust booted 19.10 desktop in KVM; I have to use safe-graphics, otherwise the screen goes black17:56
ryuoSoul_Sample: can you trigger the issue with an apt update?17:56
ryuorun from a root shell17:56
Soul_Samplei'll try now17:56
ryuoif so i have some ideas to try.17:56
Soul_Samplewell my system is up to date now so it just flies by, but i did have it stop a couple of times, both during update and upgrade17:57
ryuoas in hang?17:57
ryuoor just stop to dl?17:57
Soul_Sampledownload speed just drops to 0 and eventually times out, i have to run it a couple of times in a row until it fetches everything17:57
ryuook... try this now.17:57
Soul_Samplesame with downloads, when i stop/resume them they continue and finish eventually17:58
ryuoapt -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update17:58
ryuosorry, wrong order.17:58
ryuoapt update -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true17:58
ryuodoes this fair any better?17:59
Soul_Samplewell, as i said, it goes without problems, but it's finished in a second because everything is up to date17:59
Soul_Samplecan we test it using wget or something?17:59
ryuomaybe? you have any ideas?17:59
tomreynlordcirth: which graphics driver? also try assigning more vram18:00
Soul_Sampleno, that's why i'm here. i got used to DNS issues and network drops, but downloads failing is a new for me18:00
Soul_Samplespeedtest also fails most of the time, the download number just freezes until the test times out. but i tried downloading 20gb of overwatch yesterday and it downloaded without any issues18:01
ryuoSoul_Sample: well, i've known Spectrum as an ISP to have crappy ipv6 deployments.18:01
lordcirthtomreyn, QXL, 16MiB (defaults)18:01
Soul_Samplealso 30gb of star trek, 3gb of rocket league, the network works fine. it's almost as if http doesn't work right18:01
doug16kSoul_Sample, try `sudo sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1`18:02
ryuoyes, maybe it would be good to switch off ipv6 for awhile.18:02
ryuoi finally fixed my ipv6 issues but it was a chalelnge.18:02
Soul_Sampleis it enough to just disable it or do i have to reconnect now?18:02
ryuodisabling should remove the ipv6 addresses18:03
doug16kSoul_Sample, just try to reproduce it. you have a fairly reliable repro right?18:03
ryuoSoul_Sample: if this improves the situation then you're facing an ipv6 issue perhaps, but it could also be someone interfering with packets using specific ports.18:03
tomreynlordcirth: hmm, could try virtio-gpu18:04
ryuoit's hard to tell.18:04
doug16kSoul_Sample, you can add a conf file in /etc/sysctl.d to make it permanent if it works18:04
ryuomaybe not make it permanent, but it can be useful to find a solution.18:04
Soul_Samplestill happening, i just keep downloading the same 50mb file and it hangs at about the same percentage. i manage to download it every try or three18:04
ryuodoes it use an ipv4 address?18:05
ryuoanyway, if that's still an issue...18:05
Soul_Sampleshould be using ipv4, my interface doesn't have ipv6 anymore18:05
doug16kSoul_Sample, if you want to *really* disable it thoroughly, adding this kernel parameter should do it: ipv6.disable=118:05
ryuotraceroute or ping may be the next step to see if it's an issue with specific routes or hosts.18:05
doug16kif that works you know it is an ipv6 issue18:06
Soul_Samplei kept some pings going for a while yesterday, none have failed18:07
ryuowere they to hosts you've been having troubles with?18:07
Soul_Sampleyes, the same site i have issues downloading from18:07
Soul_Samplehttps://signal.org/android/apk/ this is my test file, signal.apk18:07
Soul_Samplebut i had similar issues while downloading other packages from the internet, so it's not just that exact site18:08
ryuowait a minute...18:08
ryuohave you tried this from any other PC on the network?18:08
Soul_Samplei tried downloading it from my phone and out of 20 downloads, i finished all 2018:08
ryuoif it's an ISP problem...18:08
ryuoit should occur similarly on all clients.18:08
ryuo... could it be an issue with that machine only?18:09
ryuoi wonder if you'd still have issues if you tried booting a live cd or so.18:09
Soul_Sampleit's an issue ever since i updated to 19.10 beta, but i figured it would iron itself out18:09
ryuo... ok we now know what's going on. it's a regression.18:10
ryuowhen you try a prerelease ubuntu, anything can happen honestly.18:10
ryuoyou may wish to take this up with #ubuntu+118:10
Soul_Samplei know, i've been doing it for a while now, but never encountered something i can't even troubleshoot18:10
ryuobut uh, what hardware do you use to connect to the network?18:11
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ryuothis reminds me of issues I used to have the in kernel realtek driver.18:11
ryuoethernet driver18:11
ryuowith the*18:11
Soul_Sampleit says  Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection, ASRock Incorporation Ethernet Connection, kernel driver e1000e18:12
ryuooh. intel.18:12
ryuothose are usually well praised for their reliability. perhaps there's a kernel regression.18:12
ryuoeither way...18:13
ryuoall i can suggest is going back to a LTS or other previous release.18:13
Soul_Samplei'll try booting 19.10 from an usb and see if it happens there, maybe it's just some configuration mess up18:13
ryuopossibly. upgrades can be more problematic than clean installs.18:14
Soul_Samplethis installation has been running for a while now, started as 16.0418:14
ryuothough here's something else i've observed.18:14
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ryuohow is it connect to the network? sometimes i've had switches that went bad and had to be restarted.18:14
lesshastein 1571336071.231535 IP > Flags [P.], seq 132:171, ack 255, win 255, options [nop,nop,TS val 6585019 ecr 3653880083], length 3918:15
lesshaste ... what is ecr?18:15
ryuojust thinking of what's specific to that client, since it's a localized problem.18:15
Soul_Samplei'm connected directly to the router, no switches or things like that in between18:16
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Soul_Samplei will bring my work laptop home tomorrow and see if it experiences the same issue, it's also running 19.1018:16
Soul_Sampletry both wifi and cable18:17
bilb_onoI have a directory mounted with an /etc/fstab file. When it mounts, the permissions are set so that its owned by www-data. I want to change it so that when I mount it, alex(me) can also access this drive. Is this something I do in the /etc/fstab file? or with normal chown commands?18:17
LuckyMancongrats on the release of the new Ubuntu18:20
LuckyManso, to upgrade I do do-release-upgrade ?18:21
daxLuckyMan: what version are you on currently?18:21
dax19.04 -> 19.10 upgrades will get released in a bit (i forget the exact time, i think it's a week for non-LTS?) so that any weird issues get found by new installations and fixed in updates18:23
daxif you need it before then, use do-release-upgrade -d. note that -d is supposed to install the current development release (but currently installs 19.10 because there is no development release right now), so that's advice that is valid now and possibly not in a few days/weeks18:23
Sbur3dax: So what you're saying is that in about a week, everything I did wrong should find a fix?18:24
daxSbur3: was talking to someone else asking about upgrades18:24
Soul_Sampleryuo, thanks for your time! gotta go now18:24
Sbur3dax: Sorry.  It just coincided with my arrival.  Sorry18:25
Sbur3dax: But do you think that my issue should find a resolution in about a week?18:26
Sbur3dax: cuz I still have problems with those important packages18:27
daxSbur3: did you do the "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" thing i mentioned in the other channel?18:27
Sbur3dax: Yup18:28
LuckyMandax, I think I can wait a week, but I will probably test the current iso to see what ZFS does today on the old laptop18:28
daxSbur3: your best bet is probably coping the entire output of the command that's throwing an error to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ and linking the paste page it creates here18:28
daxSbur3: i'm about to go afk, but hopefully someone else will be able to take a look18:28
Sbur3^dax: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r2XvXfmJTY/18:30
Sbur3dax: afk?  Well, to whomever wants to look at that.  I imagine, you're gonna eat or something important like that ... ;)18:31
Sbur3What does this indicate and how to fix that ... "7 not fully installed or removed.18:33
Sbur3"7 not fully installed or removed"18:34
Leo__VertoYour problem is that the linux-firmware installation fails which causes the installation of all dependants to also fail18:35
daxreal quick before i leave: your kernel packages aren't installing because sicherboot is failing. as far as i know sicherboot isn't installed by default, and it looks like it needs something putting in /etc/kernel/cmdline, so you'd probably want to consult whichever guide had you install that18:35
sarnoldWarning: Not updating LILO; /etc/lilo.conf not found!18:35
sarnoldwhat's this about? :)18:36
daxyeah, i don't even know what's going on there18:36
daxgosa isn't installing because it's mad about how lighttpd's set up, and i haven't used lighttpd in about 10 years so i pass on that one18:36
Sbur3sarnold: I upgraded too early.  A couple days ago.  When I try to do an update && upgrade, I get this trash18:36
Sbur3Leo__Verto: Any ideas on how I could fix this mess?18:37
Sbur3netz: Without losing data18:38
sarnoldSbur3: hopefully this can help https://github.com/julian-klode/sicherboot#integrating-with-your-package-management18:39
Sbur3dax: sarnold: Leo__Verto: Should I just uninstall something and try to reinstall it?  whether it be linux-firmware, or gosa or lighttpd or something else?18:39
Sbur3sarnold: It can't hurt.  I just hope I don't screw things up worse18:40
sarnoldSbur3: why is sicherboot installed? do you need it? what does it do for you?18:40
sarnoldSbur3: it looks like the errors start with it18:40
Sbur3sarnold: I didn't decide to install anything in particular, including sicherboot.  If it doesn't do anything for me, should I nuke it?18:41
coz_Sbur3, the first thing I would try is a sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade18:42
tomreynnothing else dpends on sicherboot, so the administrator of this system must have chosen to install it at some point (or run a software which did)18:43
tomreynsuch things don't normally happen by themselves ;)18:43
Sbur3tomreyn: Should I purge sicherboot?18:45
Sbur3tomreyn: I didn't choose to install that.  Did something depend on that thing?18:46
tomreynSbur3: if you didn't choose to install it, then who else manages this system?18:47
Sbur3tomreyn: I'm the idiot (I admit that, so np) who updates and upgrades18:47
tomreyni'd be worried about how well i'm managing my computer if i'm supposedly th eonly one managing it and random packages start appearing on it.18:47
tomreyni guess if i realized that i don't actually need it (in contrary to what i decided previously), i'd run:  sudo dpkg -P sicherboot18:48
ubottuIt's out! Grab your party hats and cake at #ubuntu-release-party, and see ubuntu.com or your favorite flavor website for download links :)18:48
Sbur3tomreyn: Fine, but does that mean that if I nuke sicherboot, everything should fall in order?18:48
tomreynSbur3: no, but it's a good start18:48
Sbur3tomreyn: Done. Now what?18:49
tomreynsudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog18:50
tomreynSbur3: ^ this18:50
Sbur3tomreyn: Looks so simple ... why haven't I thought of that ... loll18:50
tomreynit's a list of commands to get a better understanding of what's wrong. you would not need to run this normally.18:51
tomreynit should return a url, please post it here18:51
alexandrdvorkincan someone point me to the Macbook 2017 mouse and keyboard driver18:55
tomreynalexandrdvorkin: which ubuntu version are you using and what is not working?19:00
OerHeksmost articles point to  https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux19:01
OerHeksalso for 201719:01
Sbur3tomreyn: This is what happened.  Tell me what I messed up ... "sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog<<(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1;apt-cache policy 2>&1;sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;);nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog;rm /tmp/aptlog19:02
Sbur3bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('19:02
OerHeksKeyboard & Touchpad : Works out of the box with Linux 5.3 and above.19:02
alexandrdvorkinVERSION="18.04.3 LTS (Bionic Beaver)"19:02
OerHeksget a fresh 19.10 with kernel 5.319:02
Sbur3tomreyn: A wrong space or something like that?19:02
tomreynSbur3: did you type this from your scren? not copy and paste?19:03
alexandrdvorkinwhere can i get it is it on ubuntu website?19:03
alexandrdvorkini copied and pasted19:03
Sbur3tomreyn: I can't copy from my irc client.  I copied it from my terminal19:03
tomreynalexandrdvorkin: then why did it end up differently?19:03
tomreynalexandrdvorkin: oh, ignore this, i was talking to Sbur319:03
doug16k<< is not the same thing as < <19:04
Sbur3doug16k: So I need a space between the two things?19:04
doug16kneeds to be exactly what he suggested19:04
alexandrdvorkini copied the output of the cat /etc/os-release19:04
tomreynSbur3: kwirc should allow for marking text with left mouse button and then you should be able to paste it with middle mouse button.19:05
doug16kSbur3, seems like a lot but that command he gave is gathering a bunch of things at once19:05
tomreynalexandrdvorkin: yes, thanks, i think you'll best continue with what OerHeks suggested.19:07
OerHeksalexandrdvorkin, according to https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux >> Keyboard & Touchpad : Works out of the box with Linux 5.3 and above.19:07
OerHeksget a fresh 19.10 with kernel 5.319:07
alexandrdvorkinok downloading now19:07
Sbur3doug16k: tomreyn: I'm trying to copy and paste19:07
tomreynSbur3: and what happens when you do?19:08
mburke05hi guys, i'm trying to install python 3.8 on a 16.04 VM, installing it using ppa:deadsnakes works fine, but i can't install pip using python3.8 -m pip, and there doesnt seem to be a distro for python3.8-setuptools, does anyone have any idea what i need to do?19:09
Sbur3tomreyn: Finally worked.  Sorry to be such a noob.  https://termbin.com/ppy719:09
mburke05to be clear: installing 3.8 from their repo works fine, but it appears to not come with pip or pip319:09
OerHekspi or pip3 ?19:10
OerHeksc/pip or pip3 ?19:10
tomreynSbur3: great. :) this looks like it could work now. so rtun:   sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install && sudo apt full-upgrade19:10
mburke05it should require pip3 which i think is the same for all python versions >3 right? or am i mistaken and there are separate pip packages for each python distrib19:11
Sbur3tomreyn: sudo: apt-f: command not found19:12
ecormierSbur3: space...19:12
ecormierapt -f19:12
doug16ktomreyn, ah! sudo /bin/true gets the credentials cached. was wondering what the hell for a bit there :D19:13
tomreyndoug16k: right ;)19:13
Sbur3ecormier: tomreyn: I feel like a fool.  Sorry. I'm doing my best19:13
OerHeksi thought ppa:deadsnakes  comes with python3-pip19:13
Sbur3tomreyn: Still an issue with gosa19:13
mburke05i thought so too oerheks19:14
tomreynSbur3: it's a learning experience, can take a while. ;)  can we see the output of the previous commands?19:14
mburke05but after installing and attempting pip3 i get pip3 is not currently installed19:14
tomreyn!pastebin | Sbur319:14
ubottuSbur3: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:14
Sbur3tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KKQ2nWjshb/19:15
alexandrdvorkinso with the Ubuntu 19-10 the mouse and keyboard on Macbook should work?>19:17
OerHeksalexandrdvorkin, jups, test it with the live session19:17
alexandrdvorkinwill do19:17
Sbur3tomreyn: Thx to you, we're getting there, but how do I fix the problem with gosa?19:18
tomreynSbur3: what'S the output of    systemctl status lighttpd.service19:18
alexandrdvorkini am kind of not confortable installing Ubuntu on my Macbook afraid to mess up the system partition so i will be only running Ubuntu-live19:18
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: we already discussed this before19:19
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: we already told you your mac options didnt we?19:19
alexandrdvorkini am just saying i have no external drive to back my Macbook OS19:20
Sbur3tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yzGD8Zs8K8/19:20
lotuspsychjeyou also already said that19:20
ioriamburke05, https://dev.to/mortoray/how-to-install-python-3-8-on-ubuntu-1bp419:20
alexandrdvorkinlotuspsychje i apologize for repeting19:21
mburke05ioria, what worked finally for me was installing pip straight from source via wget19:21
ioriai see19:21
mburke05but seems like a hacky solution19:21
tomreynSbur3: please copy and paste this to a terminal and report back the url here:    systemctl status lighttpd.service 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999919:21
mburke05because it's a provisioning script19:22
tomreynSbur3: if copy and pasting still does not work, please say so since we should enable you to do so first19:22
alexandrdvorkinbut what is the utility i cant recall for backing up Macbook OS onto external drive19:22
a0s510I seen 19.10 is released. Just tried to run "do-release-upgrade" and get no updates found. There another way to upgrade?19:22
tomreynalexandrdvorkin: this is an Ubuntu support channel19:23
Sbur3tomreyn: https://termbin.com/kj0s19:23
ecormierdd should work :)19:23
alexandrdvorkinok so sorry my mistake19:23
ioriaa0s510, what release are you running ? usually the cli way is available a bit later then the iso release19:23
tomreyna0s510: wait a week or so, release upgrades are not enabled, yet19:23
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: ask in the mac channel, howto backup mac Os19:24
a0s510I see tomreyn19:24
alexandrdvorkinlotuspsychje ok will do19:24
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lotuspsychje!alis > alexandrdvorkin19:24
ubottualexandrdvorkin, please see my private message19:24
ioriaa0s510, you can try the -d flag if you know what are you doing19:24
ioriaa0s510, unless the -dev relase is already 20.0419:25
tomreynSbur3: do you actually use gosa, or is this just another package which unexplicably manifested on your disk, which we can safely remove?19:25
Sbur3tomreyn: Like I said, I just upgrade and update.  I see no reason to have or to not have a particular package19:26
lotuspsychjeioria: think it will need few weeks19:26
iorialotuspsychje, yeah19:26
daxindeed. -d currentl gets 19.10, not 20.0419:26
ioriaok, thanx dax19:26
Sbur3tomreyn: Have no clue what gosa is.  If you tell me that I could -P it, I'll do that19:26
tomreynSbur3: do you know how to look up information on a package?19:27
Sbur3tomreyn: Outside of man pages? No19:27
tomreynSbur3: there is "apt show gosa" and also https://packages.ubuntu.com/19:28
Sbur3tomreyn: I see the output, but don't understand much of it.  I think I had installed something like LDAP, but ...19:29
tomreynSbur3: if you don't think you need it anymore then you can    sudo apt remove lighttpd gosa19:29
Sbur3tomreyn: As long as it won't crash the system ...19:30
tomreynSbur3: i don't think this will impact the kernel, no19:30
Sbur3tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/36ZhyVVSB8/19:31
tomreynSbur3: sudo apt install --reinstall lighttpd19:33
Sbur3tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v8vGN95J3B/19:34
tomreynSbur3: sudo dpkg --purge lighttpd19:35
Sbur3tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YdV8wsJ9Wj/19:37
Sbur3tomreyn: Resistant, this lighttpd19:37
tomreyndpkg -P lighttpd-modules-mysql lighttpd-modules-ldap; dpkg -P lighttpd19:38
tomreynSbur3: ^19:38
tomreynSbur3: actually with sudo:   sudo dpkg -P lighttpd-modules-mysql lighttpd-modules-ldap; sudo dpkg -P lighttpd19:38
Sbur3tomreyn: It tells me that it can't because it requires superuser privilege19:40
Sbur3tomreyn: And I used sudo19:41
Sbur3tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r4fNxBzMdY/19:42
tomreynSbur3: you didn't use sudo with the second command though19:42
Sbur3tomreyn: Would it be better to try with synaptic?19:42
doug16kSbur3, would be extra believable if you included the command line in the paste19:42
doug16kah, you piped I guess. nevermind19:43
tomreynSbur3: i prefer the terminal (over synaptic) so we don't miss any output. now    sudo dpkg -P lighttpd19:43
Sbur3tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TY3vcrBm2k/19:43
tomreynSbur3: see above19:43
doug16ktomreyn's psychic power was correct19:43
Sbur3tomreyn: It seems to have worked19:44
Sbur3tomreyn: Next step?19:44
i2so4Hi. where should i go regarding kernel panic after upgrading kernel?19:45
tomreynSbur3: see above19:45
tomreynSbur3: now:    sudo dpkg -P lighttpd19:46
Sbur3tomreyn: Last stupid question ... (sudo dpkg -P lighttpd seems to have worked ... no error messages) I have two packages that have been held back (ubuntustudio-gnome-branding ubuntustudio-look19:47
Sbur3tomreyn: Is that a problem, or is that something that needs time for that to update/grade?19:48
tomreynSbur3: this is what you should handle next. maybe this will already handle it:  sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install19:48
tomreynSbur3: well, no this won't handle them, yet, but you should still do it. ;)19:49
tomreynSbur3: and if this seems to have worked without any warnings or error you can then   sudo apt full-upgrade19:49
Sbur3tomreyn: Still held back.  But I'm happy for now.  Thank you and all others who have helped me.  You need a package of patience with me19:50
Sbur3tomreyn: those tow things are still held back19:50
a0s510Is there a are way to upgrade direct from an ISO?19:51
tomreynSbur3: so you have more packages in bad states or breaking dependencies. you can install apt-forktracer and paste its output19:51
Sbur3tomreyn: The most important part is fixed.  I should spend some time with my wife, though19:52
tomreynSbur3: this utility can help you identify packages which should not be installed, or package versions which should not be installed because they introduce incompatibilities.19:52
tomreynSbur3: i see, ttyl then.19:52
tomreyni2so4: if you can provide details you can try to get some help here.19:53
tomreyna0s510: your question is not clear, needs more details19:53
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.19:53
i2so4huh, i guess i actually managed to solve it19:55
i2so4guess 256M of ram is not enough for newer kernels :)19:56
ecormierwhoa... how old is your computer19:56
i2so4it's a home dhcp server that's been since migrated to a VM under hyper-v19:57
i2so4and since it has just this one service active i figured ...19:57
i2so4kernel trace if you're interested19:58
tomreyni2so4: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements19:59
tomreyni2so4: oh you're right this says 256 MB, this needs to change, i guess20:00
tomreynhttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html says 384 MB20:00
lordcirthtomreyn, also, modern Linux kernels don't support i386, so "300 MHz x86 processor" should probably be changed to i486+20:01
i2so4yeah, can confirm, 384M is enough to boot20:03
lordcirthI just tried to do the ZFS install on 19.10 in a VM with 2048MiB of RAM, it froze for several minutes, then OOM'd.20:04
tomreynlordcirth / i2so4: i'Ve updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements with links to information which won't get outdated as quickly.20:09
tomreynlordcirth: expected, minimum is 4 GB, realistically i was able to install zfs with 3 GB but i wouldn't want to run it that way.20:10
funabashican anyone be nice and help me with sources.list ? i have ubuntu disco20:10
tomreyn!sources.list | funabashi20:11
ubottufunabashi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.20:11
funabashiwhy do i need to setup ths20:13
funabashishould be done by default20:13
lordcirthfunabashi, what problem are you having with the default?20:13
tomreynfunabashi: correct, it IS setup by default. so what's not working?20:14
funabashiE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)20:14
funabashiE: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it?20:14
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tomreynshow the full output as well as the command you ran, on a pastebin20:14
blebi'm trying to connect my xubuntu box to an old 90s tv20:14
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:14
lordcirthSo apt is already running. Why is that a problem with sources.list?20:15
blebi have an hdmi -> rca converter box20:15
blebbut the result cuts off the margins on my screen20:15
i2so4tomreyn, Cheers! i came here looking for help and on the way, helped to sort out some outdated documentation20:15
i2so4take care guys20:15
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:15
blebin display settings, it says "HJW 12"" for the display option then i can select a bunch of resolutions20:15
blebthe native resolution for this tv is 640x480, but selecting that i still have the margins cut off20:16
lordcirthJust unlocking isn't good if apt is actually still running, like unattended-upgrades.20:16
blebanyone know anything i might try?20:16
kostkonlordcirth, agreed20:16
tomreynbleb: you can experiment with xrandr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution20:19
funabashithis is so strange20:19
funabashicant anyone just passte  me a working source.list20:19
daxdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ disco main restricted universe20:21
daxdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ disco-security main restricted universe20:21
daxdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ disco-updates main restricted universe20:21
daxfunabashi: there ^20:21
tomreynthat's not the problem funabashi is having, though20:21
* dax shrug20:21
lordcirthfunabashi, You have not provided any evidence that your sources.list is wrong.20:22
funabashiwow finlstrm thanks alot20:23
kostkonfunabashi, what was it20:23
funabashidax: 3 lines20:23
evngInstalled ubuntu 19.10 - when I open the software center I see the following error: https://i.imgur.com/dMzaQwp.png20:24
lordcirthevng, does your DNS work elsewhere, ie the browser?20:25
evngyes it works20:25
evngI'm able to open the extensions.json file from the browser20:27
OerHeksi read double // in the url20:28
OerHeksubuntu bug failed to download https://extentions.gnome.org//static/extentions.json20:28
evngmaybe they were old errors, I have dismissed them and reopened the sw center and now it seems to work :|20:29
OerHekshttps://status.gnome.org/ is oke20:29
evngyeah nvm, it works now :)20:30
DumbLDoorGreetings all! Just upgraded to the latest version, 19.10. Flash is not working with the latest Chromium. The codecs ffmpeg are installed too20:31
DumbLDoorAnyone has any idea on this/20:38
Guest_53hello, how do I install python?20:51
YxhuvudIt is probably already installed.20:51
Guest_53no, I can't find the python program installed20:52
gambl0reGuest_53, are you learning django or flask?20:52
Guest_53how can I install python?20:54
tommy``apt-get install python20:55
Guest_53it says this20:55
Guest_53E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: Permission denied)E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), are you root?20:56
tommy``sudo apt-get install python20:56
Guest_53ok, it says this20:57
Guest_53Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency tree       Reading state information... Donepython is already the newest version (2.7.15~rc1-1).python set to manually installed.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:57
tommy``it's installed20:57
tommy``launch with20:57
tommy``or python320:57
nualawhereis python20:58
Guest_53and how do I open it?20:58
tommy``launch from terminal20:58
Guest_53ok how do I launch it?20:59
tommy``type python20:59
kostkonGuest_53, you already have it. type python for python 2 or python3 for 3 in the terminal to start an interactive shell or just use an IDE20:59
Guest_53ok, it says this21:00
Guest_53Python 3.6.8 (default, Oct  7 2019, 12:59:55) [GCC 8.3.0] on linuxType "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.21:00
tommy``it's open21:00
Guest_53Thank you, so I can test any kind of python coding now, right?21:01
kostkonGuest_53, try it eg:  print("Hello World")21:01
tommy``to launch a python .py script just type from terminal python <code.py>21:01
nualawithout < > ! just the filename ;)21:02
fastfreshHi! Just upgraded to eoan, selected Yaru dark in gnome-tweaks, but the setting did not affect top bar and dropdown menus. Any ideas how to fix this?21:03
Guest_53ok, it says this21:04
Guest_53 <code.py>  File "<stdin>", line 1    <code.py>    ^SyntaxError: invalid syntax>>> code.pyTraceback (most recent call last):  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>NameError: name 'code' is not defined21:04
tommy``Guest you have a python script?21:04
Guest_53Could you give me an example of a python script please?21:05
tommy``a program in python that have extension .py21:05
tommy``you have it on your computer?21:05
Guest_53python?, yes21:06
tommy``a python program21:06
tommy``I meant21:06
evngyou should probably ask in #python at this point, you obviously have no idea how python works, this is not a problem with ubuntu anymore :)21:06
DumbLDoorGreetings all! Just upgraded to the latest version, 19.10. Flash is not working with the latest Chromium. The chromium ffmpeg codecs are installed too. Is there is a fix available or is it broken for now? Flash works fine on chrome and firefox.21:17
chrmhoffmanndo-release-upgrade doesnt do anything :)21:18
tomreynDumbLDoor: flash? do you really still need this?21:18
tomreynchrmhoffmann: on which ubuntu release are you?21:19
chrmhoffmanntomreyn, the one before21:19
chrmhoffmanni guess that's 19.0321:20
chrmhoffmanncrap .0421:20
kostkonchrmhoffmann, by flash you mean online videos?21:20
kostkonchrmhoffmann, that was for DumbLDoor sorry21:20
DumbLDoor@tomreyn, @kostkon - yes, I need flash for some sites still.21:21
tomreynchrmhoffmann: release upgrades to 19.04 are not enabled, yet. this usually happens about a week or after release21:21
chrmhoffmanntomreyn, you mean "from 19.04"21:21
chrmhoffmannthank you!21:21
DumbLDoorNot online videos21:21
tomreynchrmhoffmann: actually i meant *to 19.10*, sorry, but effectively this also means from 19.04, yes21:22
chrmhoffmanntomreyn, i guess a do-release-upgrade -d cannot do much harm though at this point in time21:22
tomreynchrmhoffmann: that's something you'll have to decide on your own.21:23
chrmhoffmann'kay :)21:23
chrmhoffmannthanks again21:23
tomreynyou're welcome :)21:24
DumbLDoorAny idea? I guess I will have to wait for a fix in the next week or so.21:25
tomreynDumbLDoor: i dislike the idea of supporting snaps, but understand that chromium-browser is an essential package, and it is only available as a snap now. you can look here https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snap-chromium-cant-see-flash-plugin-in-usr-lib/5380/8 and here https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snap-chromium-cant-see-flash-plugin-in-usr-lib/5380 for more information.21:27
DumbLDoor@tomreyn: Thank you!21:28
tomreynyou're welcome!21:29
ryuotomreyn: what the? why did they move chromium to a snap?21:33
tomreynryuo: in eoan only, i was imprecise. if this is going to be a discussion then it belongs to #ubuntu-discuss21:35
ryuoeh, nevermind. it's unlikely to go anywhere.21:36
LuckyManwhile upgrading to the new ubuntu version I get Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.0.0-31-generic (x86_64)22:07
LuckyMan virtualbox-dkms22:07
LuckyMankernel package linux-headers-5.0.0-31-generic is not supported22:09
LuckyMandoes it mean virtualbox doesn't support the new kernel?22:10
tomreynLuckyMan: this package apparently does not, or not yet. look for an existing bug report or file a new one using   ubuntu-bug virtualbox22:12
tomreynalso note that upgrades to 19.10 are not supported, yet22:12
LuckyManI know22:12
LuckyMantomreyn, apparently removing virtualbox, rebooting, and reinstalling it solved the problem22:21
cluelesspersonI haven't been able to figure out how to fix this22:43
cluelesspersonwhenever I click a link outside the browser22:43
cluelesspersonit crashes the browser22:43
cluelesspersonit starts to happen only after the browser has been open a long time22:44
tomreyncluelessperson: how would you click on a link outside of the web browser?22:45
cluelesspersontomreyn, ....   https://google.com/22:45
cluelesspersondidn't crash this time clicking that22:45
tomreyncluelessperson: so you mean your web browser when you click on a url in other applications, links that would get loaded by your web browser?22:47
cluelesspersonhexchat, pastes while coding, slack, discord22:47
tomreynerr this sentence didn't make much sense, but i'm glad you got me.22:47
tomreynis /var/crash full of crash logs then?22:48
tomreynand what's logged to journalctl -f ?22:48
cluelesspersontomreyn, not related to this22:48
cluelesspersonjournalctl -f has thousands of lines of22:49
cluelesspersonkernel: hid-sensor-hub 001F:8086:22D8.0003: hid_field_extract() called with n (192) > 32! (kworker/0:3)22:49
tomreynhmm not sure what this is, but i assume it's unrelated.22:49
tomreyncluelessperson: which ubuntu version is this, is it fully updated?22:51
cluelesspersontomreyn, it's recently updated, I'm upgrading it now22:51
tomreyni don't know whether it's ubuntu 19.04, i'm asking you :)22:52
cluelesspersontomreyn, it's 19.04 yes22:52
tomreyncluelessperson: bug 1818547 looks related to this message you caught there (which i think is not related to the web browser 'crashing'). it's also marked as fixed.22:53
ubottubug 1818547 in linux (Ubuntu Disco) "hid-sensor-hub spamming dmesg in 4.20" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181854722:53
cluelesspersontomreyn, I just found that. :P22:53
cluelesspersondidn't crash opening that link22:53
cluelesspersonI'm currently upgrading to 5.0.0-3222:54
tomreynso apparently reproducing the web browser 'crash' is not so easy.22:54
tomreynwhen you say 'crash', does the web browser process actualyl seem to fail (that would be logged in journalctl -f by the time it'd happen), or does the window just disappear, r something else?22:55
cluelesspersontomreyn, window just disappears, restarts22:55
cluelesspersonI haven't been able to find logs regarding it22:56
tomreyncluelessperson: so "journalctl -f" outputs nothing when it happens?22:58
tomreynor are you not able to reproduce it right now, so you cannot tell?22:58
tomreynor is this log filling up so quickly due to this hid-sensor-hub issue that you cannot tell what is getting logged besides it?23:00
cluelesspersontomreyn, my logs are spammed to hell by things now that it's unusable23:00
cluelesspersontomreyn, I'm going to upgrade and see if that fixes the other error23:01
cluelesspersonI think I need to reboot23:01
tomreynsure, you'll need to. but those other kernel versions listed there make se assume it wont fix it23:01
cluelesspersontomreyn, do you know what this means?23:02
tomreyn"it"=hid-sensor-hub issue. apparently it also affects other distributions, so chances are this is also a bug that's been filed upstream, agains tthe linux kernel.23:03
cluelesspersonThe initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/dm-223:03
cluelesspersonI: (/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1)23:03
cluelesspersonI: Set the RESUME variable to override this.23:03
tomreyncluelessperson: this is a purely informational message telling you which of your partitions the kernel will try to load your system state from when it resumes from suspend-to-disk (hibernation)23:04
cluelesspersontomreyn, thanks for your help btw23:04
tomreynyou're welcome!23:05
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CarlenWhiteWhen it comes to Eoan being released, anyone who did a `do-release-upgrade -d` will transition?23:19
CarlenWhiteWords. Transition over without intervention?23:19

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