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lubot<teward001> @ubot93 [<ubot93> standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @Samuel …], Bronchitis.  Thats all I have to say.  :P03:40
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [Bronchitis.  Thats all I have to say.  :P], Ain't nobody got time for that04:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL78c2d16b716c: Capitlilize PPA] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL78c2d16b716c06:47
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL64099a98ba37: Spellcheck Software sources and capitlize PPA] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL64099a98ba3706:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEEDa45b736ee265: platform.eoan -> platform.focal] Adam Conrad <adconrad@0c3.net> committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEEDa45b736ee26508:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T123: 20.04 Artwork] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T123#251711:55
lubot<HMollerCl> openbox right menu on desktop is broken (don't know since when) https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lxqt-lubuntu-19-04-shortcuts-error/46214:25
The_LoudSpeakerbtw, lubuntu is pronounced as "L-ubuntu" or lubuntu ? I have been using them mixed. 19:30
tsimonq2Loo boon too19:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Ack. Thanks!19:32
lubot<kc2bez> We need a "How to Pronounce" episode from @MichaelTunnell19:34
tsimonq2^^^^^^19:34
lubot<MichaelTunnell> consider it done :D19:34
lubot<kc2bez> :D19:34
lubot<MichaelTunnell> thoughts on making one video for all flavours19:35
lubot<kc2bez> Makes total sense to me.19:35
lubot<HMollerCl> how can I know which packages are needed in "build-depends" for https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt20:11
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl @tsimonq2 @kc2bez ^20:11
wxlyou basically need to interpret the upstream build instructions20:11
wxlmight look at what arch does20:13
lubot<HMollerCl> readme says requirements are: posix signals, redshift and Qt520:13
wxlaur depends are qt5 and redshift https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/redshift-qt/20:14
wxlredshift includes a bunch of other stuff.. https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/redshift/20:15
kc2bezThat is what github indicates too https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt#requirements20:15
wxlRedshift in $PATH20:15
wxloh good, we also have redshift and redshift-gtk separately20:16
wxlso redshift is certainly a requirement20:16
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, that's for sure20:17
lubot<HMollerCl> I mean teh rest, posix??? And which Qt5 package?20:17
wxlummm20:17
tsimonq2POSIX is a standard, I'd assume that's already implemented by default.20:17
wxl!info qt5-base20:17
ubot93'focal' is not a valid release: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, experimental, fasttrack, liquorix, partner, stable, stable-backports, testing, tor, unstable, vanir, virtualbox20:17
wxlhahahahah20:18
wxl!info qt5-base eoan20:18
ubot93Package qt5-base does not exist in eoan20:18
lubot<HMollerCl> qtbase5-dev20:18
tsimonq2wxl: See the binary packages of qtbase-opensource-src20:18
tsimonq2Yeah.20:18
wxl^^ that20:18
lubot<HMollerCl> and qttools5-dev?20:18
tsimonq2Yeah, that too.20:19
lubot<HMollerCl> qttools5-dev-tools?20:19
tsimonq2At the end of the day, you can guess and check.20:19
tsimonq2Just use sbuild or a PPA.20:19
kc2bezsbuild FTW20:19
wxl^^ that's right. 20:19
wxlre: "guess and check"20:19
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, thanks20:20
tsimonq2wxl: By the way, while I'm thinking about it, did you ever file that RFS on compton?20:20
tsimonq2I think it was compton, right?20:20
wxlyeah, no20:20
tsimonq2Could you do that?20:20
wxllife kind of blew up on me but soon20:20
tsimonq2I can give you a hand if you'd like.20:20
tsimonq2It's just sending an email man. :)20:21
wxlbelieve me, i know.. it's just i have a huge backlog and it's a relatively low priority comparatively20:21
tsimonq2Okay.20:21
tsimonq2All I'm saying is that the process takes a bit.20:21
tsimonq2https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=927231 is one I did.20:21
ubot93Debian bug 927231 in pastebinit "ITS: pastebinit -- command-line pastebin client" [Important, Open]20:21
wxli gotcha20:22
wxlRikMills: is it safe to presume kubuntu has the experimental zfs support in ubiquity? someone suggested he hadn't seen it in other flavors.20:37
tsimonq2wxl: No, actually.20:38
wxltsimonq2: it's ONLY ubuntu propert?20:39
tsimonq2wxl: They slid that Ubiquity change in immediately before release, leaving no time or consideration for anyone else to implement it.20:39
tsimonq2wxl: Different frontends.20:39
wxlso it's on all the gtk frontends??20:39
tsimonq2wxl: The underlying code is in there, but the KDE frontend doesn't have it.20:39
tsimonq2yeah.20:39
wxlexpletives.20:39
tsimonq2You're telling me.20:39
wxlhttps://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/533#issuecomment-54393415920:40
ubot93Issue 533 in calamares/calamares "ZFS support" [Open]20:40
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGScacfe81115b6: Upload to Focal.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGScacfe81115b620:42
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGING7f6fa863ed51: Completely update to Focal.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGING7f6fa863ed5120:43
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGce605d716467: Welcome to the Focal Fossa!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGce605d71646720:43
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIERc7678e84b00b: Upload to Focal instead.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIERc7678e84b00b20:43
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New source: lubuntu-update-notifier (focal-proposed/primary) [0.1]20:50
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (focal-proposed/universe) [1:19.10.7 => 1:20.04.1] (lubuntu)20:54
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (focal-proposed/universe) [19.10.6 => 19.10.7] (lubuntu)20:54
tsimonq2@HMollerCl: ^20:56
wxltsimonq2: re: lubuntu-grub-theme you think we should just `update-grub; exit 0`?20:57
tsimonq2wxl: `update-grub || exit 0` seems a bit saner.20:57
wxlright20:58
wxl^^ @The_Loud_Speaker there's your fix20:58
wxlwaaaaaaaaait20:58
wxlthe iso will still fail that way20:58
wxlupdate-grub will fail when building and provide a non-zero exit20:58
tsimonq2Which is why || is better, as opposed to ;.21:00
tsimonq2|| says "if you fail, try this"21:00
tsimonq2Which is exit 021:00
tsimonq2And, if it doesn't fail, we're still okay.21:00
wxloh dumb i'm thinking && for some reason 21:00
* wxl guzzles down more tea21:00
tsimonq2The problem then becomes this: if update-grub is still failing, can we guarantee that an installed system has still had the postinst script ran?21:01
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (focal-proposed) [19.10.7]21:01
wxl*apparently* `stat -c %i /` will always be 2 in you're in a chroot, so you could create a conditional21:01
wxlthere's also:21:02
wxl!info ischroot21:02
ubot93'focal' is not a valid release: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, experimental, fasttrack, liquorix, partner, stable, stable-backports, testing, tor, unstable, vanir, virtualbox21:02
wxl!info ischroot eoan21:02
ubot93Package ischroot does not exist in eoan21:02
tsimonq2That still doesn't address the problem I raised.21:02
wxloh hm21:02
wxl!info ischroot disco21:02
ubot93Package ischroot does not exist in disco21:02
wxlwell it does you liar21:02
wxloh, it's part of debianutils21:02
wxlanyways21:02
wxlit could21:02
tsimonq2What I'm saying is, we need some QA work here.21:03
tsimonq2We need to guarantee that Cala's update-grub also pulls in the new theme.21:03
tsimonq2"pulls in" = "applies"21:03
wxlyou could do `if [ $(stat -c %i /) == 2 ]; then exit 0; else update-grub; fi`21:04
tsimonq2That'll work.21:04
tsimonq2@Guephren: Do you have experience with CSS, or just graphic design?21:05
wxloh i got it wrong.. != 221:05
wxlusing ischroot would be the easy solution21:07
tsimonq2Yep, so it does work fine.21:17
tsimonq2Cool, I don't think it should be a problem.21:17
guiverc2release-upgrade 19.04 to 19.10... wasn't the user asked to disable/stop xscreensaver   (I saw it a couple of times, that's how I recall it [want for comment on 1846842]21:47
wxli don't remember anything like that guiverc2 but afaik no one but us is using xscreensaver (to the detriment of their security)21:53
guiverc2:|  but thanks wxl --  this was my reply (lp bug mentioned) minus @user  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m8cCKQ5qcM/  ;; any comments esp. given you can't recall the page I'm basing it on  (from my crappy memory)21:59
wxlunfortunately i haven't done it so i'm not sure but i'm not surprised seeing services go up and down guiverc2 22:01
guiverc2up down is why I think it gave the 'long' message telling user to disable/stop  (i forget its actual word; why I'm using that..)    thanks wxl I'll think on it some more..22:03
wxlguiverc2: i mean to be fair such things aren't restricted to full release upgrades, but if, for example, i was running virtualbox and upgraded virtualbox, the upgrade process wouldn't complete successfully unless i closed down virtualbox.22:11
wxlhey @tsimonq2 while you're syncing stuff could you get qtpass 1.3.0+ in the archives? see bug 182969322:41
ubot93Bug 1829693 in qtpass (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Daily ISO (May 19) QtPass error 'GnuPG not found'" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182969322:41
tsimonq2wxl: ack22:41
tsimonq2wxl: We'll wait for autosyncer on that one.22:48
wxltsimonq2: that's been in debian since september.. i presume that was too late for the auto-sync in eoan?22:51
tsimonq2wxl: Yes.22:52
wxltsimonq2: debian import freeze was august 22nd. i presume that's the cutoff?22:52
tsimonq2wxl: Yep.22:52
wxlko22:53

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