| blaze[m] | In my case Plasma Wayland session doesn't even start. Computer just freezes and I have to restart it | 11:09 |
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| blaze[m] | Sigh | 11:09 |
| blaze[m] | With every Plasma release it just gets worse and worse | 11:10 |
| blaze[m] | :D | 11:10 |
| yofel | well, as long as your release upgrade at least went fine... Mine exploded into stars thanks to someone putting impossible upgrade requirements into virtualbox | 11:35 |
| yofel | still trying to figure out what all got missed | 11:37 |
| blaze[m] | Right, I had that issue with virtualbox too | 11:40 |
| blaze[m] | I had to remove everything virtualbox-related with dpkg and then complete my upgrade | 11:42 |
| yofel | well, a reboot is enough to get the virtualbox package install to succeed afterwards. But that then removed kubuntu-desktop because keeping amarok installed was more important to apt than uprading breeze.. and I'm not sure if something else got missed as well | 11:44 |
| yofel | ok, with the correct breeze version I have a background image on the login screen again | 11:46 |
| yofel | FWIW, the team did a good job on the plasma part otherwise. No visible issues other than what got caused by vritualbox | 11:48 |
| yofel | sadly 19.10 fixes none of the issues 19.04 brough me. But none of those are KDE releated | 11:48 |
| RikMills | yofel: ouch. have forwarded that to last person to do vbox uploads | 12:00 |
| RikMills | yofel: on bytemark, when it looked like we might lose linode, I started trying to get LXD containers set up there. not needed now I guess, so please undo if needed | 12:01 |
| yofel | it shouldn't break anything so I would leave it there for now. We might need that at some point after all | 12:06 |
| yofel | as for virtualbox: it's only kind of a packaging issue.. the dependencies don't match the requirements of virtualbox. And virtualbox from eoan does not support the kernel from disco. But that's what DKMS will try to build a kernel for during the upgrade, meaning the kernel requirement of the new virtualbox are impossible for the release upgrade | 12:18 |
| yofel | not sure how you would fix that other than downgrading virtualbox... | 12:18 |
| RikMills | yofel: ah, there was exactly the same sort of issue building some Eoan nvidia kernel modules with the disco kernel. that was reported and fixed, but guess vbox slipped under the radar :/ | 12:28 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:35 |
| Mamarok | upgraded to 5.17 this morning, works great :-) Just one knit-pick: why on earth does it override my default Desktop view with Folder View? Shouldn't touch the previous settings IMHO | 13:56 |
| IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> Mamarok: I was not aware that happens. Please report it to KDE if you think that is out of order. It is certaily nothing Kubuntu has done on purpose. | 13:58 |
| Mamarok | Just did tell Kai, we are showcasing Plasma 5.17 at Linuxday.at in DOrnbirn today :-) | 13:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> Nice. Kai is super at investigating things like this | 14:00 |
| Mamarok | indeed, great guy to work with, and also great booth guy, he loves to explain to people visitng the booth | 14:04 |
| yofel | now lets try to get jenkins up to date.. | 15:15 |
| RikMills | yofel: told to point you to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1848006 | 16:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1848006 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "package virtualbox-dkms 6.0.12-dfsg-1 failed to install/upgrade: installed virtualbox-dkms package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 10" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:23 |
| yofel | ok then. Maybe that got out a tad too late for me | 16:28 |
| RikMills | That is what Gianfranco Costamagna <locutusofborg> thinks | 16:30 |
| yofel | yeah, looks like I forgot to reboot before the upgrade | 16:35 |
| RikMills | yeahm though it is arguable there should be measures in place to prevent trying to build on incompatible kernels. maybe somthing to address | 16:37 |
| yofel | thinking about it, on another system do-release-upgrade refused to upgrade before I rebooted, so I wonder what happend there | 17:00 |
| yofel | why is the old CI server still a thing... | 17:27 |
| yofel | sitter: ^ | 17:28 |
| yofel | are you using river for something? otherwise that's just eating money | 17:29 |
| clivejo | Hi yofel, RE: river, There was discussions at one point to rebuild a new NG CI system in python and I asked Clemen's if that was okay. He said it was fine to do that. | 18:52 |
| yofel | ah ok, thanks. I stopped jenkins on it so the bot doesn't hijack the nick, I'll leave it alone otherwise then | 18:53 |
| clivejo | sorry if that has already been discussed, Rik forwarded me on part of the conversation on Telegram | 18:53 |
| clivejo | I have no idea on the state of play on the new NG CI, I believe santa and tsimonq were working on that | 18:54 |
| yofel | RikMills: kci master is now running 18.04 and jenkins + plugins are updated. The ruby-runtime plugin fails to load now though, lets see if I can fix that | 18:54 |
| clivejo | but Clemen's was happy for them to use it as a test machine | 18:54 |
| clivejo | but that was while I was still on the team, might be best if someone touches base and confirms that | 18:55 |
| clivejo | Rik has the keys to rive, I believe | 18:57 |
| clivejo | I think he might be out partying | 18:58 |
| RikMills | clivejo: not quite, but I have maybe had more Jack Daniels than is recommended for tweaking servers | 18:59 |
| clivejo | some say it helps :P | 19:00 |
| RikMills | I think I am on the wrong side of the balmer curve ;) | 19:01 |
| RikMills | *peak | 19:01 |
| clivejo | BTW anyone got wayland working on NVidia? | 19:02 |
| clivejo | well plasma-wayland | 19:02 |
| RikMills | nope. it hates my card, even on latest plasma | 19:03 |
| clivejo | even on 5.17? | 19:03 |
| clivejo | darn, was hoping it would work! | 19:03 |
| blaze | Even amd doesn't work anymore, at least for me | 19:04 |
| RikMills | yesyes | 19:04 |
| clivejo | oh, that's odd | 19:04 |
| blaze | maybe I'm too lucky | 19:04 |
| clivejo | works great for me, just not NVidia :( | 19:04 |
| clivejo | anyone happen to know where the new redshift/night mode settings are in 5.17? | 19:06 |
| blaze | display and monitor | 19:07 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> wayland on NVidia works on my hybird laptop, but locks up my desktop. | 19:07 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> I was curious how if others experienced the same, seems so... | 19:08 |
| clivejo | Hi DarinMiller, I haven't tried it yet under 5.17 | 19:09 |
| clivejo | we disable Wayland by default currently, so have to manually install the files I need | 19:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Hi clivejo. wayland requires manual install on kubuntu also. Still not quite ready for prime time, but inching ever closer. | 19:14 |
| clivejo | ah cool, haven't used Kubuntu in a wee while, so out of the loop so to speak! | 19:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> :) | 19:17 |
| RikMills | yeah, keeping it as an 'you can install that session if you want to test, but it is not supported' | 19:17 |
| RikMills | having it there by default on sddm login options implies to too may that it should work | 19:18 |
| clivejo | RikMills: do you remove the session file in packaging? | 19:18 |
| santa_ | hello everyone | 19:20 |
| RikMills | clivejo: seperated into: https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/plasma-workspace-wayland | 19:20 |
| RikMills | which is not installed by default | 19:20 |
| santa_ | clivejo: nice to see you again :) | 19:20 |
| RikMills | santa_: hi! | 19:20 |
| santa_ | clivejo: I had to pause my research on a new CI implementation a while ago, but I hope to resume it when KA is a bit more mature to handle that | 19:22 |
| santa_ | RikMills: hi, if you want to discuss a few things about the packaging I'm available tonight | 19:23 |
| santa_ | speaking of which, I have updated groomlake's tritemio to handle focal, first test rebuild in progress: http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_frameworks.html | 19:24 |
| RikMills | santa_: well, as previously said, I have had more than a few Jack Daniels, so not sure how much my technical comprehension is up to that | 19:26 |
| santa_ | RikMills: oh ok, I haven't seen that, let's have that talk tomorrow whenever you are in shape ;) | 19:27 |
| RikMills | I will mention a few things though, which I bet you have seen in debian | 19:27 |
| santa_ | ok, go ahead please | 19:28 |
| RikMills | 1) Pio has been removing crappy testsuites so we can follow suit when 19.10 queue is unblocked | 19:28 |
| santa_ | Pino | 19:29 |
| RikMills | *Pino | 19:29 |
| RikMills | 2) PIM is having symbols removed, and moving to a virtual ABI provides way of ensuring ABI deps are required internally and on other packages | 19:30 |
| santa_ | ok | 19:31 |
| santa_ | anything else? | 19:31 |
| RikMills | seems sensible to follow? I would say so, even if you disagree, as not a fun delta to maintain | 19:31 |
| RikMills | santa_: those were the main things | 19:32 |
| santa_ | I'm fine to follow debian in autopkgtest removal | 19:32 |
| santa_ | ack, I plan the next few days if possible: | 19:32 |
| santa_ | - prepare tritemio's area51 for focal and do test rebuilds | 19:33 |
| santa_ | - remove some of the branch checking from KA as we discussed some weeks ago in order to prepare the first 2.3 beta | 19:34 |
| santa_ | - think about debian merges | 19:34 |
| santa_ | and that's it, I think these are the main thing on my "agenda" | 19:34 |
| RikMills | seems good | 19:34 |
| santa_ | * the main things | 19:34 |
| RikMills | 1st thing I will do is drop the tests debian did, then any subsequent stiff we do (FW etc) will trigger less to annoy the release team (Laney) | 19:35 |
| santa_ | that's cool | 19:35 |
| RikMills | s/stiff/stuff | 19:35 |
| RikMills | ok. we are on same page then | 19:36 |
| santa_ | :) | 19:36 |
| * RikMills pours another JD | 19:36 | |
| * RikMills hands one to clivejo and anyone else who wants | 19:37 | |
| clivejo | sorry, had to go to the shop before it closed! | 19:44 |
| clivejo | yeah, sure | 19:44 |
| clivejo | do you'll still use BBB? | 19:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> nice to see you clive! | 20:02 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Valoriez> we've not had a meeting there for awhile, but they have it available to us | 20:02 |
| clivejo | Hi @Valoriez | 20:18 |
| clivejo | has anyone logged into it recently? | 20:18 |
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