[11:09] In my case Plasma Wayland session doesn't even start. Computer just freezes and I have to restart it [11:09] Sigh [11:10] With every Plasma release it just gets worse and worse [11:10] :D [11:35] well, as long as your release upgrade at least went fine... Mine exploded into stars thanks to someone putting impossible upgrade requirements into virtualbox [11:37] still trying to figure out what all got missed [11:40] Right, I had that issue with virtualbox too [11:42] I had to remove everything virtualbox-related with dpkg and then complete my upgrade [11:44] well, a reboot is enough to get the virtualbox package install to succeed afterwards. But that then removed kubuntu-desktop because keeping amarok installed was more important to apt than uprading breeze.. and I'm not sure if something else got missed as well [11:46] ok, with the correct breeze version I have a background image on the login screen again [11:48] FWIW, the team did a good job on the plasma part otherwise. No visible issues other than what got caused by vritualbox [11:48] sadly 19.10 fixes none of the issues 19.04 brough me. But none of those are KDE releated [12:00] yofel: ouch. have forwarded that to last person to do vbox uploads [12:01] yofel: on bytemark, when it looked like we might lose linode, I started trying to get LXD containers set up there. not needed now I guess, so please undo if needed [12:06] it shouldn't break anything so I would leave it there for now. We might need that at some point after all [12:18] as for virtualbox: it's only kind of a packaging issue.. the dependencies don't match the requirements of virtualbox. And virtualbox from eoan does not support the kernel from disco. But that's what DKMS will try to build a kernel for during the upgrade, meaning the kernel requirement of the new virtualbox are impossible for the release upgrade [12:18] not sure how you would fix that other than downgrading virtualbox... [12:28] yofel: ah, there was exactly the same sort of issue building some Eoan nvidia kernel modules with the disco kernel. that was reported and fixed, but guess vbox slipped under the radar :/ [13:35] Hi folks [13:56] upgraded to 5.17 this morning, works great :-) Just one knit-pick: why on earth does it override my default Desktop view with Folder View? Shouldn't touch the previous settings IMHO [13:58] Mamarok: I was not aware that happens. Please report it to KDE if you think that is out of order. It is certaily nothing Kubuntu has done on purpose. [13:58] Just did tell Kai, we are showcasing Plasma 5.17 at Linuxday.at in DOrnbirn today :-) [14:00] Nice. Kai is super at investigating things like this [14:04] indeed, great guy to work with, and also great booth guy, he loves to explain to people visitng the booth [15:15] now lets try to get jenkins up to date.. [16:23] yofel: told to point you to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1848006 [16:23] Launchpad bug 1848006 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "package virtualbox-dkms 6.0.12-dfsg-1 failed to install/upgrade: installed virtualbox-dkms package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 10" [Undecided,Invalid] [16:28] ok then. Maybe that got out a tad too late for me [16:30] That is what Gianfranco Costamagna thinks [16:35] yeah, looks like I forgot to reboot before the upgrade [16:37] yeahm though it is arguable there should be measures in place to prevent trying to build on incompatible kernels. maybe somthing to address [17:00] thinking about it, on another system do-release-upgrade refused to upgrade before I rebooted, so I wonder what happend there [17:27] why is the old CI server still a thing... [17:28] sitter: ^ [17:29] are you using river for something? otherwise that's just eating money [18:52] Hi yofel, RE: river, There was discussions at one point to rebuild a new NG CI system in python and I asked Clemen's if that was okay. He said it was fine to do that. [18:53] ah ok, thanks. I stopped jenkins on it so the bot doesn't hijack the nick, I'll leave it alone otherwise then [18:53] sorry if that has already been discussed, Rik forwarded me on part of the conversation on Telegram [18:54] I have no idea on the state of play on the new NG CI, I believe santa and tsimonq were working on that [18:54] RikMills: kci master is now running 18.04 and jenkins + plugins are updated. The ruby-runtime plugin fails to load now though, lets see if I can fix that [18:54] but Clemen's was happy for them to use it as a test machine [18:55] but that was while I was still on the team, might be best if someone touches base and confirms that [18:57] Rik has the keys to rive, I believe [18:58] I think he might be out partying [18:59] clivejo: not quite, but I have maybe had more Jack Daniels than is recommended for tweaking servers [19:00] some say it helps :P [19:01] I think I am on the wrong side of the balmer curve ;) [19:01] *peak [19:02] BTW anyone got wayland working on NVidia? [19:02] well plasma-wayland [19:03] nope. it hates my card, even on latest plasma [19:03] even on 5.17? [19:03] darn, was hoping it would work! [19:04] Even amd doesn't work anymore, at least for me [19:04] yesyes [19:04] oh, that's odd [19:04] maybe I'm too lucky [19:04] works great for me, just not NVidia :( [19:06] anyone happen to know where the new redshift/night mode settings are in 5.17? [19:07] display and monitor [19:07] wayland on NVidia works on my hybird laptop, but locks up my desktop. [19:08] I was curious how if others experienced the same, seems so... [19:09] Hi DarinMiller, I haven't tried it yet under 5.17 [19:10] we disable Wayland by default currently, so have to manually install the files I need [19:14] Hi clivejo. wayland requires manual install on kubuntu also. Still not quite ready for prime time, but inching ever closer. [19:15] ah cool, haven't used Kubuntu in a wee while, so out of the loop so to speak! [19:17] :) [19:17] yeah, keeping it as an 'you can install that session if you want to test, but it is not supported' [19:18] having it there by default on sddm login options implies to too may that it should work [19:18] RikMills: do you remove the session file in packaging? [19:20] hello everyone [19:20] clivejo: seperated into: https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/plasma-workspace-wayland [19:20] which is not installed by default [19:20] clivejo: nice to see you again :) [19:20] santa_: hi! [19:22] clivejo: I had to pause my research on a new CI implementation a while ago, but I hope to resume it when KA is a bit more mature to handle that [19:23] RikMills: hi, if you want to discuss a few things about the packaging I'm available tonight [19:24] speaking of which, I have updated groomlake's tritemio to handle focal, first test rebuild in progress: http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_frameworks.html [19:26] santa_: well, as previously said, I have had more than a few Jack Daniels, so not sure how much my technical comprehension is up to that [19:27] RikMills: oh ok, I haven't seen that, let's have that talk tomorrow whenever you are in shape ;) [19:27] I will mention a few things though, which I bet you have seen in debian [19:28] ok, go ahead please [19:28] 1) Pio has been removing crappy testsuites so we can follow suit when 19.10 queue is unblocked [19:29] Pino [19:29] *Pino [19:30] 2) PIM is having symbols removed, and moving to a virtual ABI provides way of ensuring ABI deps are required internally and on other packages [19:31] ok [19:31] anything else? [19:31] seems sensible to follow? I would say so, even if you disagree, as not a fun delta to maintain [19:32] santa_: those were the main things [19:32] I'm fine to follow debian in autopkgtest removal [19:32] ack, I plan the next few days if possible: [19:33] - prepare tritemio's area51 for focal and do test rebuilds [19:34] - remove some of the branch checking from KA as we discussed some weeks ago in order to prepare the first 2.3 beta [19:34] - think about debian merges [19:34] and that's it, I think these are the main thing on my "agenda" [19:34] seems good [19:34] * the main things [19:35] 1st thing I will do is drop the tests debian did, then any subsequent stiff we do (FW etc) will trigger less to annoy the release team (Laney) [19:35] that's cool [19:35] s/stiff/stuff [19:36] ok. we are on same page then [19:36] :) [19:36] * RikMills pours another JD [19:37] * RikMills hands one to clivejo and anyone else who wants [19:44] sorry, had to go to the shop before it closed! [19:44] yeah, sure [19:46] do you'll still use BBB? [20:02] nice to see you clive! [20:02] we've not had a meeting there for awhile, but they have it available to us [20:18] Hi @Valoriez [20:18] has anyone logged into it recently?