valoriegood ole rsync works for me03:30
valorieand it's quick03:30
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IrcsomeBotarjun_soni was added by: arjun_soni04:52
IrcsomeBot<arjun_soni> Hey guys I'm trying to upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10. But no new ubuntu release found.04:57
valorie@arjun_soni - not a guy, but you will need to: sudo do-release-upgrade -d04:59
valoriebecause the upgrade switch hasn't been flipped yet for Ubuntu04:59
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, Thia04:59
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, This04:59
* valorie just did a backup and upgrade earlier this evening05:00
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, I tagged your comment and upvoted it with "This" on Telegram, you won't see tagging probably because you are on IRC05:00
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, 👍🏻05:01
valorieI am on Tg but not right now05:01
valorieI prefer IRC when possible05:01
IrcsomeBot<arjun_soni> @valorie, Thanks05:03
valorieyou are very welcome05:03
valoriehave fun with it!05:03
valorieI immediately added backports and got Plasma 5.1705:03
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> Kubuntu is great, but lags on my Lapc whenever I flash it on SSD05:05
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> Works excellent on USB05:05
valoriewell now that's weird05:05
valorieflash it?05:05
valorieor install it05:05
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, Well, installing, but in Android terms, flashing is equivalent even for onboard storage05:25
valorieKubuntu isn't designed or tested for that05:31
valoriethere are people who install kubuntu onto a large thumb drive with persistence, so that they can use random computers05:32
valoriefor instance people traveling the world05:32
valorieit isn't fast though05:32
valorie@princeofclay is there some reason you don't want to just install on your laptop in the usual way?05:33
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IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, No05:34
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> Btw there's a weird problem in latest LTS.05:35
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> Touch isn't detected05:35
valoriewell, it's 1.5 years old05:35
valoriemy travel lappy is touch, and it works well, and has for years05:36
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, Ahh, so better to get 19.10?05:36
valoriethat's what both of my laptops are on05:36
valoriepersonally I never advise the LTS unless stability is your most important quality05:37
valoriebusinesses often choose the LTS05:38
valoriebut I'm unsure why the average person would05:38
valorieupgrading every 6 months isn't difficult05:38
valorietook me less than an hour05:38
valorieif I had a separate $HOME I could have done a fresh install in 15 mins05:39
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, I chose it because I'm new to Linux. And I thought the non LTS is something like Android Beta or Windows Insider Programme06:02
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> Not for serious use06:02
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> Just for freelance testers06:02
valorieour betas are that, for sure06:02
valorieand it's true that although we test test test, that for the LTS our sole aim is reliability and stability06:03
valoriesince we have to support it for years06:03
valoriewhereas we can try out new things in between06:03
valoriebut we never put out anything without multiple rounds of testing06:03
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> @valorie, This approach is good06:20
valoriein all the years I've been running Kubuntu (over 10) I've had very few problems06:21
valorieand the other users here always help me out of them, even when I caused them myself06:21
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Guest5636I've got a problem with xorg ( I guess ). I was using egpu and everything was fine till it wasn't. Now I am at a point when egpu is unplugged, nvidia drivers purged yet still can't switch to native 1366x768 of a laptop scrren.08:26
Guest5636Login manager starts in the correct resolution but desktop envirorment starts in insufferable 660x540.08:28
Guest5636*it's 960x5008:29
lordievaderWhat graphics card are you using, and what driver are you using for it?08:30
Guest5636lordievader: yup, some old nvidia plugged into adapter and connected via express card.08:30
Guest5636Ah one sec.08:31
lordievaderSounds complicated08:31
Guest5636zotac on nv 630 driver - thou as I said - it's unplugged, nvidia drivers purged and all I want for now is to get the correct laptop resolution.08:32
lordievaderRight, so the laptop has an integrated (Intel?) card as well?08:33
lordievaderCould you pastebin the out of `sudo lspci -k` and `cat /proc/cmdline`?08:38
Guest5636lordievader: will try - let me grab the other machine - typing from different laptop.08:50
enkeyzhey guys: just installed from 19.04 to 19.10, and I have one small problem: the new Chromium browser(v77) doesn't respect GTK cursor theme08:57
enkeyzany solution to this?08:57
enkeyzOnly Chromium, in VSCode it works fine08:58
enkeyz(and in other GTK apps)09:00
Guest19615lordievader: https://pastebin.com/tU5v2NxN09:03
Guest19615( epgu guy )09:03
lordievaderThat looks alright09:05
lordievaderI get the feeling the resolution is configured somewhere, rather than auto detected. You could try what this guy has done: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=22872109:08
Guest5636xrandr did the trick.09:11
Guest5636Still wandering why kde prevents from getting there.09:11
enkeyzSo looks like only Chromium from snap have GTK theme issues09:13
enkeyz(just built it from source)09:14
enkeyzI wonder who thought snap will be fun for 19.10, it's just awful09:16
ignacio_alguien sabe como poner en marcha filezilla server?10:17
ignacio_he seguido las instrucciones pero no hay manera10:18
ignacio_Warning: FTP over TLS is not enabled, users cannot securely log in.10:19
ignacio_este es el mensaje que recibo10:19
tomreyn!es | ignacio_10:29
ubottuignacio_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.10:29
tomreyngenerally, if you don't strictly depends on the ftp protocol, i would recommend using http or sftp (ssh) instead.10:31
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Guest82927On a board I attend someone just posted his xorg ( kubuntu 18.04 ) is running from root. Just checked mine and12:08
Guest82927ps -ef|awk 'BEGIN { IGNORECASE=1 } $0 ~ /xorg/ && ! /awk/'12:08
Guest82927root      1031  1029 11 13:36 tty1     00:03:04 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -nolisten tcp -auth /var/run/sddm/{1fa7fbc3-3ff3-4e15-a4d9-5b5a12:08
Guest82927Is this normal?12:09
tomreynhmm, it runs as (my) restricted user on my 18.04 with gnome-shell12:22
tomreynGuest82927: ^ but indeed X runs as root on kubuntu 19.04 as well12:25
Guest82927tomreyn: any reason for the shift from unprivileged user you know of?12:33
tomreynGuest82927: i don't know how sddm and kde work under the hood, so can't really comment.12:34
tomreynalso, i'd just assume that kubuntu's X always ran as root and it's just not shifted to a restricted user configuration, yet (so i don't see a move from restricted back to root, as your question seems to suggest).12:36
Guest82927Maybe so. Thanks for input.12:44
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> This is offtopic guys, but is MX Linux rigging to top position?12:49
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> Its definitely Top 25,but no. 1 seems a huge stretch.12:49
IrcsomeBot<princeofclay> If its really at the top, what Kubuntu can include from it to increase users12:50
tomreynprinceofclay: yes, this is off-topic, as you seem to know well, so this discussion doesn't seem to belong here.13:07
tomreyn(maybe it's ok on the forums?)13:08
BluesKajHi folks13:35
IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> Hello! The Kubuntu website says upgrade to 19.10 from 19.04 is available. Running the command says 'no update release'. Third party info says update until 1 St point release!? ???13:38
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @Anarchotaoist, Where does it say it is available?13:39
OerHeksiso's are available..13:40
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Upgrading from 19.04 … Detailed upgrade instructions can be found here: [Kubuntu 19.04 to 19.10 Upgrade](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu)13:40
OerHeks there is no upgrade path yet, use  "update-manager -c -d"  option for now, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes13:41
OerHeksor you beter wait a few days, tuesday maybe13:41
xbfrogwhat happens tue?13:42
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> The announce,ents and release notes point to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EoanUpgrades/Kubuntu13:42
OerHeksthis delay is normal, for years, it gives us some time to detect upgrade issues, so please report any!13:42
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @RikMills, Which says: "There may a delay of a few hrs to days between the official release announcements and the Ubuntu Release Team enabling upgrades."13:42
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> No-where does it say upgrades are available NOW13:43
OerHeksomgubuntu ( and others) should be more clear about this..13:44
BluesKajif you want to upgrade by the cli just run sudo do-release-upgrade -d , since the package manager is obviously mucked up13:56
BluesKajmake sure to update and upgrade the existing 19.04 packages first tho13:57
tomreynand probably to ppa-purge all PPAs which could get in the way, and to run apt-forktracer.14:00
BluesKajtomreyn, what's apt-forktracer ?14:12
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tomreyn!info apt-forktracer14:13
ubottuapt-forktracer (source: apt-forktracer): utility for tracking non-official package versions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5 (bionic), package size 21 kB, installed size 122 kB14:13
tomreynBluesKaj: it's similar to what the foreign_packages wrapper script (around apt-show-versions) at https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/#foreign_packages does, but it's included in ubuntu, and usually good enough, so i'm rather recommending this for now.14:15
BluesKajI see14:17
tomreynit's all about detecting packages and package versions which apt doesn't know how to handle, and which have no tested upgrade paths14:17
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @Franzpow, Can someone please answer me? Thank you14:18
tomreynBluesKaj: maybe you know the answer to a question raised by soemone else here earlier (which i couldn't answer): why does Xorg on kubuntu run as root when some of the other falvours have it running as a restricted user?14:19
BluesKajtomreyn, no idea14:20
tomreynFranzpow: it's okay to repeat your question occasionally, such as after 8 hours.14:20
tomreyni'll help, but it was cut off:14:21
tomreyn<Franzpow> Hey, yesterday I had the same problem as you updating from terminal to 19.10, so I did this instead. … I searched for: …  ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt_19.10.15_all.deb … So I added: … deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan main universe … After that I updated every package on Discover. Now it says that I have kubuntu 19.10. … Did I make a mistake? Will my system blow up soon? It's like I updated everything manually bu14:21
tomreynBluesKaj: ok, i assume it's probably just not possible kde-wise, yet14:22
tomreyn(but i'm really clueless there, too)14:22
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @tomreyn> <Franzpow, I just wrote this yesterday more than 24hrs ago but I did not receive an answer.. So I asked here another time (now)14:23
BluesKajtomreyn, I used to do some Xorg.conf editing back in the day when ATI gpus required it, but that was a long time ago14:24
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> This is the missing part  … "Did I make a mistake? Will my system blow up soon? It's like I updated everything manually but I am wondering if I did it right.."14:25
tomreynFranzpow: cool. i'm just saying it's good to repeat the question occasionally since people join and leave. 19.10 upgrades are not supported, yet.14:25
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @tomreyn, Oh ok I did not understand properly what you were saying14:25
tomreynBluesKaj: autoconfiguration was really a great improvement.14:25
tomreynFranzpow: no worries ;)14:26
tomreynFranzpow: so the way you upgraded is not how it should be done. it may still have worked out okay but there's a good chance your system configuration differs from a fresh 19.10 installation now in ways beyond the changes you made on purpose. it may be desirable to backup and do a fresh installation sometime in the not so distant future.14:29
tomreynFranzpow: is there an immediate error situation you're trying to solve now?14:30
lh_Хорошо живет на свете винипух)14:40
BluesKaj!ru | lh_14:44
ubottulh_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:44
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @tomreyn, Fortunately no. It's working right now.. I am still testing it.14:56
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Someone suggested me this on AskUbuntu: … sudo apt -f install14:57
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I did that and uninstalled some packages14:57
IrcsomeBot<bauchhaus> clockwise and counterclockwise rotation are reversed in the KDE Display Settings Module. where to report this?15:07
cybercryptohi there, is the upgrade path from kubuntu 19.04 to 19.10 already release? (I meant upgrade without forcing it).15:08
cybercryptoso far, the release-update is returning 'no new release found'15:09
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tomreyncybercrypto: upgrades to 19.10 are not enabled, yet.16:14
tomreynalias check19.10="wget -qO- http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release | grep -q '^Dist: eoan$' && echo 'Upgrade to 19.10 is now available' || echo 'Upgrade to 19.10 is not available, yet.'16:15
tomreynthen run: check19.1016:15
tomreyn!bug | bauchhaus16:16
ubottubauchhaus: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.16:16
tomreynFranzpow: you should probably ensure that all apt sources at /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} are now pointing to 19.10, then:  apt update; apt -f install; apt upgrade; apt full-upgrade16:17
blender_starterHi, i have installed Kubuntu with nvidia drivers16:27
blender_starterDrivers are installed but not in use16:28
blender_starterWhat to do?16:28
blender_starterThanks in advance16:28
tomreynhow did you install them?16:29
blender_starterWhen installing a checked install proprietary drivers16:30
blender_starterThen i removed them (because they were not working) and installed again16:30
tomreyni see. whihc kubuntu version did you install?16:30
tomreynwhen you reinstalled them, how did you reinstall them?16:30
blender_starterSudo Ubuntu-drivers autoinstall16:31
tomreynhmm, okay, i'd expected this ti work. did you reboot afterwards?16:31
blender_starterWhen i run glxgears i get only 60fps16:31
tomreynwhich graphics card is it?16:31
blender_5dI disconnected16:33
blender_5dDid you ask anything?16:33
tomreyn<tomreyn> which graphics card is it?16:33
OerHekshi blender_5d did you ask anything?16:34
blender_5dGeforce gt 103016:34
tomreyni'm not really into nvidia but if that's a new one you might need to resort to the "ubuntu-drivers" PPA16:35
blender_5dYeah but with which command?16:36
blender_5dSorry i am newbie16:36
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @tomreyn, I have 4 files.list how I check if they point to 19.10?16:37
tomreynblender_5d: you may be new, but you can read, the page i pointed oyu to explains16:38
blender_5dThanks i havent noticed16:39
blender_5dIll try16:39
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> (Photo, 732x352) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/D6N0OxhH/file_19196.jpg16:40
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> This is what I have in the folder16:40
tomreynFranzpow: 19.10 is known as "eoan", 19.04 is known as "disco". if you see "disco" in there, replace it by "eoan". my motivation to support you with this is limited because you picked an upgrade path (editing some apt sources, not using what's recommended in all (official) documentation) is unsupported16:41
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I know but I really was unaware of this... I just thought that I had to download these updates to upgrade my Kubuntu with the official way. It was My error but I am new to this and I was not able to understand properly the instructions16:43
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Now I will proceed to replace disco with eoan16:44
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Thank you16:44
tomreynyou're welcome, good luck. and don't forget about the reamining tasks afterwards:16:44
tomreyn<tomreyn> Franzpow: you should probably ensure that all apt sources at /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} are now pointing to 19.10, then:  apt update; apt -f install; apt upgrade; apt full-upgrade16:44
tomreynit is possible that    "apt update" will already print warnings and errors, usually this is because third party apt repositories do not support the new release, yet. you can comment those apt source out and retry them in a wek or two.16:46
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @tomreyn> <tomreyn, Yes I won't forget it. Ubuntu it's awesome, it's like being aware of everything happens inside an OS for the first time. Thank you and to all the community16:46
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> It makes me want to replace windows 10 on all my devices with Ubuntu16:47
evgenyhi.. can you give me advice please? when i load Kubuntu 18.04, there is Discover manages starts up. i do not configure it. i can not find out, where is set up of this.16:48
evgenyit's good for my system if i run in Konsole sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? Someone recommends me run it16:59
tomreynevgeny: i had difficulties understanding your first questions. maybe you can rephrase it in some short sentences?17:01
evgenytomreyn Hi. Every time i boot my system, there is opens Discover manager, how to disable this startup?17:02
tomreynabout your second question: unless you have manually edited /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} to point your apt sources to a different (k)ubuntu release, or have third party repositories configured which will upgrade software to newer releases, it is always safe to run    sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade17:03
tomreynevgeny: i think that if you close "discover" before you log off / shutdown it will not start up automatically upon login (unless there are pending updates)17:04
evgenythank you :)17:04
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @tomreyn, I think I replaced correctly all the repositories but for now I have 0 updates to do.17:52
ohallotHello community.. I tried command "do-release-upgrade" to update my kubuntu but it returns "no upgrade available". Am I missing something? Is this command still supported? Thanks!17:53
tomreynIrcsomeBot: good, that's all you could do for now, i guess.17:54
tomreynFranzpow: ^17:54
* ohallot wants to upgrade from 19.04 to 19.1017:54
tomreynohallot: upgrades to 19.10 are not enabled, yet17:54
tomreynwait a couple days, keep trying. the command is correct, but add -c17:55
tomreyn(if you only want to check)17:55
tomreynalternatively you can set this alias    alias check19.10="wget -qO- http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release | grep -q '^Dist: eoan$' && echo 'Upgrade to 19.10 is now available' || echo 'Upgrade to 19.10 is not available, yet.'"17:56
tomreynand then run    check19.1017:56
ohallottomreyn Thanks for the answer. !17:57
tomreynyou're welcome!17:58
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @tomreyn, Ok thanks!18:08
cybercryptotomreyn: thanks for the info. Do you know how long the upgrade is delayed, normally?18:09
tomreyncybercrypto: usually less than a week.18:10
tomreynFranzpow: you, too, are welcome!18:10
cybercryptotomreyn: that sounds grat, thank you.18:10
tomreyncybercrypto: :) pleasure. it's nice when people have some patience.18:11
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danilaCan anyone help me with some audio input problems? :)20:09
tomreyn!ask | hi danila, please20:10
ubottuhi danila, please: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:10
tomreynboth ubottu and i are bad at debugging audio, though, i hope someone else can help20:11
danilaOkay. So I just installed Kubuntu 19.10 and found out that no audio input devices are detected. My sound card is Xonar DG which kind of makes it tricky to figure out. Everything worked fine on Ubuntu 19.04, though20:15
tomreynthat's a CMI8786 chipset, driver is snd-oxygen20:21
danilaYep, it's selected for audio output and works just fine. But Audio Volume Settings don't display any input devices at all20:22
tomreyndoes    cat /proc/asound/cards    list multiple cards?20:23
danilaYes. 3 items:20:25
danila 0 [DG             ]: CMI8786 - Xonar DG20:25
tomreynsometimes sound chipsets / their drivers interfere with each other. but this is a far fetched guess really. i don't think i can help.20:25
danila                      C-Media Oxygen HD Audio at 0xc100, irq 1820:25
danila 1 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH20:25
danila                      HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7210000 irq 3320:25
danila 2 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia20:25
tomreyn!paste | danila20:25
ubottudanila: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:25
tomreynubuntu: tell danila about sound20:26
tomreynubottu: tell danila about sound20:26
ubottudanila, please see my private message20:26
tomreynthat's all the two of us know.20:27
danilaI see. Thank you20:27
jordilahi there Kubuntistas ... coming from XFCE lands... aiming at KDEneon taste: a KDE newbie glad to be here for the fest time, here. Am i in the right do you know if there is a specific KDEneon chat room ?20:58
bpromptI don't know for one20:59
dax#kde-neon, but that's more of a development channel not a support one (see its /topic)21:00
jordilanice to know21:00

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