[09:51] <DarkTrick> hello
[09:52] <DarkTrick> I'm a little curious about dev and living. Is there any way of making a living from ubuntu "core" development? "core" should include everything that comes shipped by default (e.g. nautilus)
[10:02] <infinity> DarkTrick: "living"?
[10:02] <DarkTrick> infinity, Meaning: can ubuntu dev be a job?
[10:10] <tomreyn> DarkTrick: i think you're looking for https://canonical.com/careers (if you mean development), or a nearby IT services company managing ubuntu servers for their customers.
[10:10] <jbicha> DarkTrick: yes, you just have to be good at something that someone is willing to pay you for 😐
[10:16] <DarkTrick> tomreyn, thank you for the link! Very interesting!
[10:16] <DarkTrick> jbicha, you smiley indicates ,that it's difficult (?)
[10:18] <DarkTrick> I guess though, most of the people working for ubuntu have a job, a family and ubuntu as "hobby". Is that guess correct?
[10:18] <jbicha> there are lots of people being paid to work on Ubuntu stuff, but I am not one of those people yet
[10:18] <tomreyn> DarkTrick: you're welcome, but let me also say that it's surprising that you'r einterested in Ubuntu development and you didn't think of checking the website of the comapny driving it (Canonical) beforehand.
[10:24] <DarkTrick> tomreyn, idd. Perhaps I was more interested in hearing a "user's voice" before judging myself. As I don't know what I don't know, I might not be able to see a "more obvious answer"
[10:30] <tomreyn> DarkTrick: sorry, i should have held my horses. i wish you good luck finding a suitable engagement!
[10:33] <DarkTrick> tomreyn, :) I didn't take it as offense(? hope I got the right word here). Every feedback provides important information.
[10:33] <DarkTrick> Thank you. I'll see how I plan my life :)
[10:33] <tomreyn> :)
[10:34] <DarkTrick> jbicha, also a thanks to you, of course
[10:34] <DarkTrick> and sorry for the OT
[17:42] <doko> ugh, that doesn't work ...
[17:42] <doko>         for d in debian/python3-persistent/usr/include/python*; do \
[17:42] <doko>                 [ "$$d" = *m ] || mv "$$d" "$$d"m; \
[17:42] <doko>         done
[23:22] <mwhudson> (ubuntu/devel)mwhudson@anduril:~/src/pkg/py38/cracklib2$ dpkg --listfiles libpython3.7-minimal | grep sysconfigdata
[23:22] <mwhudson> /usr/lib/python3.7/_sysconfigdata_m_linux_x86_64-linux-gnu.py
[23:22] <mwhudson> (ubuntu/devel)mwhudson@anduril:~/src/pkg/py38/cracklib2$ dpkg --listfiles libpython3.8-minimal | grep sysconfigdata
[23:22] <mwhudson> /usr/lib/python3.8/_sysconfigdata__x86_64-linux-gnu.py
[23:22] <mwhudson> le sigh
[23:22] <mwhudson> and also why does the package care