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didrocksgood morning06:14
dufluMorning didrocks and oSoMoN06:46
didrockshey duflu06:46
oSoMoNhey duflu07:00
oSoMoNsalut didrocks07:00
oSoMoNand good morning desktoppers07:00
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didrockshey oSoMoN07:14
dufluHi seb12807:18
seb128hey duflu & desktopers07:18
oSoMoNsalut seb12807:18
seb128lut oSoMoN, didrocks07:18
seb128did everyone had a good w.e?07:18
didrockssalut seb128, ça allait et toi ?07:19
seb128bon w.e en France, tranquille :)07:20
jibelhi all07:22
dupondjeoSoMoN: I found some small minor typo in the README.Debian in firefox, I open a bug for this? Or can I just paste it here? :)07:24
didrockssalut jibel07:25
oSoMoNdupondje, pasting here is fine, thanks07:27
oSoMoNsalut jibel07:27
dupondjeoSoMoN: $ sudo aparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.@MOZ_PKG_NAME@07:27
dupondjeits apparmor_parser :)07:27
dupondjetook me at least 30 seconds before I realised why it didn't work lol :D07:27
oSoMoNdupondje, I'll fix this right away, thanks07:28
oSoMoNseb128, more or less… house got burgled while we were out for dinner on Saturday, not fun. Rest of the week-end was good though, spent quality time with my daughters yesterday, much needed to get over the hassle.07:28
seb128oSoMoN, urg, sorry man :(07:28
seb128that sucks07:28
seb128did they steal much?07:29
didrocksargh :/07:29
oSoMoNnot much, luckily they didn't touch my laptop07:29
oSoMoNit's more the hassle of paperwork with the police and insurance company, and getting the windows fixed now07:30
oSoMoNand my eldest's trauma, cause they entered the house through her bedroom07:31
seb128:(((((07:31
didrocksthat's the more annoying part, indeed…07:31
oSoMoNdupondje, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox.eoan/revision/132007:36
oSoMoNI'll now backport to the branches for other stable releases07:36
dupondje:) Great, its very minor, but at least its fixed for next releases :)07:37
oSoMoNyeah, details matter. thanks for reporting it!07:43
Laneyhey08:02
willcookehi all08:03
seb128hey willcooke, Laney08:03
seb128did you have a good w.e?08:03
willcookepretty good thanks08:03
willcookehow about you seb128?08:03
seb128w.e in France, good and relaxing08:03
seb128a bit rainy, but nothing compared to .nl today :(08:04
dufluMorning Laney and willcooke08:04
oSoMoNgood morning Laney, willcooke08:05
willcookeI did a news review on Friday from the 19.10 articles:  All good.08:06
willcookeI'll look again today08:06
didrockshey Laney, willcooke08:09
seb128willcooke, did you find real reviews like ones? all the ones I saw/read were mostly factual/summary of the release notes08:10
seb128e.g not much opinion from the reviewers/users08:11
willcookeseb128, I found a few.  Jack Wallen (Tech Radar, or something like that) did a proper review.  But yeah, a lot of them rehased the release notes - and used the screenshots pack that I made, so they all had the same screenshots too.08:12
willcookeLazy journalists :)08:12
seb128:)08:13
Laneyhey seb128 duflu oSoMoN didrocks08:14
Laneyweekend was nice, yeah08:14
* Laney hugs oSoMoN :(08:14
dufluI feel there should have been some final editing and polish on the release notes, but mostly they're very useful even to us08:26
tjaaltonduflu: about the "HDR" bug.. so am I right that deep colour is first needed before media can show HDR content?08:44
duflutjaalton, kind of :)08:44
duflutjaalton, most people would want deep colour first, but it's not really a requirement08:44
tjaaltonit's a confusing topic, the intel guy asked me directly by email so I created the bug without knowing much about the topic nor having any (display) hw to support it08:45
tjaaltonactually I have the telly08:45
tjaaltonbut aiui it needs hdmi 2.0 / dp 1.408:46
duflutjaalton, maybe less confusing to just say yes it is a requirement. Because the latest HDR standards probably ask for 10-bit as a requirement (checking now)08:46
tjaaltonmaybe I should drop the version from the topic08:47
dufluI think my deep colour monitors are going to die of old age before I see deep colour on them :(08:48
tjaaltonhehe08:48
dufluBecause they're already old08:49
tjaaltonhow old?08:49
dufluGood question08:49
tjaaltonmy monitor is at 8y now08:49
tjaaltonand was planning on getting a new one at some point, maybe during the next 6mo08:49
dufluSeveral years, but probably not 808:50
tjaaltonbut seems impossible or very expensive to get a model which works for both photo management and games (which I don't play much, but would like to have the potential)08:51
dufluYeah, pick one08:51
duflubut not both08:52
tjaaltonyep, cope with the tearing08:53
tjaaltonat least it'd look good08:53
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers08:54
marcustomlinsonoSoMoN: ah so sorry! :(08:54
dufluMorning marcustomlinson08:55
marcustomlinsonhey duflu!08:57
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ricotzkenvandine, hi :), https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk/merge_requests/711:47
seb128ricotz, kenvandine, can snapcraft?yaml use variables? it seems suboptimal to have the version coded like that in env tricks, would be easy to overlook changing it11:51
ricotzseb128, I just followed existing things ;)11:52
seb128ricotz, right, it was more a question for Ken (or marcustomlinson)11:52
ograseb128, you can use snapcraftctl set-version from inside the build steps of a part11:53
ogra(reading a git tag or Version.h or whatever from a script to hand it to that command)11:53
seb128ogra, that doesn't really adapted to that case though11:53
ograok11:54
marcustomlinsonseb128: sure could probably use a single environment variable to store the version once11:54
oSoMoNricotz, FYI, I created focal branches for firefox, firefox-beta, and thunderbird13:41
hellsworthgood morning desktopers!13:42
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: morning13:42
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth13:42
didrockshey hellsworth13:42
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: could you review this: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk/merge_requests/713:42
hellsworthsure looking at it13:43
marcustomlinsonI suspect you'll need to give the whole thing a rebuild and see if it works13:43
hellsworthshoot. these changes are already merged in my branch but not in the community oneyet13:44
hellsworthi was waiting to merge until i had all the things13:44
hellsworthand i'm stuck on librsvg so marcustomlinson i was going to ask you for your advice there..13:45
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: seb128 brought up a good point too that perhaps we should think of a cleaner way to update versions like that instead of writing '0.46' on 3 different lines. Perhaps a single environment variable per version? Not sure13:45
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: no rush on that, take the time you need13:45
hellsworthyeah a single env var is better for sure13:45
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: no rush on the MR, no rush on the version number cleanup. You just got in, take it easy :)13:46
hellsworthit's ok to rush a little tho :)13:47
ricotzoSoMoN, hi. ack13:48
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hellsworthmarcustomlinson, when you have time could you take a look at the librsvg failure? it's still the same as i emailed. it's a rust thing and i think that https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/librsvg/commit/78219898d17440a41d21a206afa5a5d982dcbf9f is the reason for it. i just don't know how to compensate for this architecture change. there is no librsvg.pc file13:49
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marcustomlinsonkenvandine: hey, did you see my recent comments on that drawing snap post? https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/drawing-snap-not-working/13669/12?u=marcustomlinson15:54
marcustomlinsonsuper weird15:54
hellsworthi read through it and it is weird15:55
hellsworthgoing off irc for a bit while i setup weechat because hexchat isn't doing it for me16:02
kenvandinemarcustomlinson: i did16:05
kenvandinebut the theme changes still only seem to affect snaps using gnome-3-32-180416:05
marcustomlinsonright16:06
marcustomlinsonI'll carry on with it16:06
kenvandinethx16:06
kenvandinemarcustomlinson:  my hunch is something to do with librsvg16:49
willcookenight all16:54
hellsworthkenvandine: marcustomlinson did i miss something about librsvg while changing irc clients?16:58
hellsworthbtw librsvg is the last bit to be updated in the build snap16:58
hellsworthso i went ahead and merged the rest of the changes so ew can get it in the snap store16:59
kenvandinecool16:59
kenvandinehellsworth: well, there something about a recent change in gtk-common-themes (adwaita and yaru) that is triggering a crash of snaps using gnome-3-32-180416:59
kenvandinebut we can't reproduce it with gnome-3-28-180416:59
hellsworthoh right the drawing snap issue17:00
kenvandineyeah17:00
kenvandinemarcustomlinson's test snaps are reproducing the same issue17:00
hellsworthright17:00
marcustomlinsonkenvandine, hellsworth: maybe once we've figured out the librsvg issue in gnome-3-34-1804 we can see if the problem goes away by using the new 3.34 platform17:04
marcustomlinsonif so, we can backport it17:05
hellsworththat sounds good17:05
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: I'll look at that librsvg thingy tomorrow17:05
hellsworthi think that https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/librsvg/commit/78219898d17440a41d21a206afa5a5d982dcbf9f is the reason for the 3.34 librsvg build snap failures17:06
hellsworthis there a way i can use maybe source-commit or something in yaml instead of a git branch/tag?17:06
hellsworthif so, i could verify my hunch17:06
hellsworthwell let me go ask in #snapcraft..17:07
kenvandinehellsworth: you could go back to the librsvg-2.44 source branch18:36
kenvandinethat would be before that change18:36
hellsworthyep. i'm doing a bisect between the two branches to find the commit that breaks the build18:58
hellsworthkenvandine: what is in the community/ubuntu/gnome-3-34-1804-sdk is all changes except librsvg (so it's still at librsvg-2.44)18:59
hellsworthI thought finding the librsvg commit that breaks the build snap build would help discover the fix, so that we could potentially go to the newer librsvg-2.46 branch19:00
sarnoldI'm not sure the context, but one potential problem is new versions of librsvg are in rust, and rust targets fewer platforms than ubuntu; it's also possible that librsvg is using new language featuers faster than we can package up the rust toolchain that provides the features19:02
hellsworthsarnold: the context is that this newer branch of librsvg won't build and fails with a rust failure. the reason could be any of those you mention.19:04
hellsworthmay be that we just hang out on the older librsvg-2.44 branch for a while19:05
sarnoldwow that's a lot of changes :(19:07
hellsworth24119:10
hellsworthi can tell you that at least the first 120 changes don't break it :)19:11
hellsworthoh my i was wrong about the number of commits19:22
hellsworthits 1546 :(19:23
kenvandineI would walk through them like 100 at a time :)19:30
kenvandinewhen it breaks, then start narrowing the gap19:30
kenvandinehellsworth: ^^19:30
hellsworthyep thanks kenvandine, that's essentially what' i'm doing19:31
kenvandinegood :)19:31
hellsworthand i have several systems at home doing this to try and speed it up19:31
hellsworthlunchtime19:34
kenvandine:)19:34
kenvandineenjoy19:34
hellsworthyou should not forget lunch too :)19:34
kenvandinesoon :)19:36
kenvandinelike 3 more usn refreshes to test :)19:36
kenvandinethere was quite a list today19:37
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infinityIs the ubuntu-canary image still meant to be a thing in focal?  If not, we should tear it out of cdimage.  If so, you need a package (well, a Packages.gz in an empty archive, at least) in your PPA to stop the build from exploding.20:31

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