[00:00] tomreyn, or e.g you by vps, encrypt it with ubuntu encryption. can vps provider see whats going inside vps? [00:00] they provide your ram, they can dump it [00:01] on a physical (bare metal) computer, the attacker would need to gain access to a root shell, or dump the memory from dimms. [00:02] can someone point me to the documentation for the built in Intel WiFi drivers? [00:02] i want to port one of them to macOS [00:02] and i need to know whats happening and why [00:02] kernel.org [00:02] i tried that =/ [00:03] tomreyn, to dump ram, they need to unplug ram [00:03] tomreyn, how they can get root access? [00:04] tomreyn: https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Ultrabook-Windows-m3-8100Y-Storage/dp/B07X2M2WTX/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=gpd+p2+max&qid=1571615682&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyMFZWNkRZNUJBVDc0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDIwOTE3SjA1TkJQQ0hQUjhJJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAzMzQ2ODkxM1BaMDBBTzJIWUMxJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== [00:04] Intelo: by exploiting vulnerabilities, or physical attacks, such as a hardware keylogger. but this is pretty much beyond the scope of this channel. [00:05] xoxo: yes? [00:05] tomreyn: just sharing my conclusion [00:05] that's not a conclusion, that's an amazon.com tracking link, pretty much OT here [00:06] oops [00:06] i sent you the wrong link [00:06] tomreyn, ok. talking about ubunty encryption, is there any way other than hardware keylogger or ram dump, to get into a running or shutdown computer? [00:06] tomreyn: sorry, it's a book called "Essential Linux Devices" [00:06] tomreyn, I mean to say that when the computer is running, the disk is in unencrypted state. so it can be just read [00:07] also what bit of encryption does ubuntu does? can I have 1024bit? [00:07] xoxo: this channel is about ubuntu support, we don't to driver development or porting support here. [00:07] tomreyn: sorry [00:07] xoxo: maybe try ##linux [00:07] tomreyn, ^ [00:08] Intelo: ask in ##security please [00:08] tomreyn, I think they won't know how ubuntu encryption works [00:10] it's called LUKS, and they do [00:54] how to list what packages installed recently? [00:59] Yesterday someone posted a shell command to return the original ubuntu version that was used to install ubuntu on a box. I didn't save it, and I've been unable to find it online. Does anyone happen to know what it is? [01:00] waltman, start with : cat /var/log/installer/media-info [01:01] !irclogs | waltman [01:01] waltman: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ [01:01] eipip1e0: /var/log/apt/history.log [01:02] Awesome, thanks! [01:06] Interestingly my linode ubuntu server doesn't have that file. [01:08] tomreyn: thanks [01:23] what is the command for distribution upgrade? [01:26] spinningcat: Your intent here is to go to 19.10 ? [01:26] yeah or 20.04 [01:26] is 20.04 buggy? [01:27] 20.04 is still a figment in the imagination. 19.10 is latest and is not LTS. === mnemonic is now known as Guest74507 [01:29] Bashing-om, hmm how can i upgrade? [01:31] found the command [01:32] spinningcat: Check that /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is set to any, and in terminal execute ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt do-release-upgrade '. The upgrade path should now be open. [01:34] i found a wierd issue with bash history which always eats any 'tar' command - no tar on history or the beginning 'tar' was eatten, so it does not appear in history expansion and isearch. any possible reason? === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:35] maybe i should ask #bash [01:35] eipip1e0: A leading space will cause the entry in the history file to be absent. [01:37] does history record it if tar failed? [01:40] Bashing-om: tested no leading space the same issue [01:40] eipip1e0, if leading space(s) are used commands aren't written to history (if local; if remote logged in usually commands get recorded but configuration can change this) - but local setup can vary this [01:40] eipip1e0: Do not know as I have never yet had tar fail on me :( [01:40] no matter what history does not record tar on my box/bash [01:43] eipip1e0, check ownership of ~/.bash_history (if not owned by you, eg. `sudo` - your commands won't be able to overwrite the 'root' ownership so nothing new will be recorded) [01:48] guiverc: Great thought ^^ from a great mind :P [02:06] if im using tor browser does my browser still look in /etc/hosts for domain names? [02:15] Polybius-, i just tested, and it didn't on my system [02:18] guiverc, k, thanks === Leion1 is now known as Leion === Leion1 is now known as Leion [03:35] does ubuntu 18.04 LTS installer automagically install the HWE kernel if you have a ryzen 2600G (integrated GPU)? My (linux novice) friend just did an install and it already had the hwe, I was shocked. he didn't install it [03:37] doug16k: HWE kernel is now on the ubuntu-desktop iso 18.04 by default [03:37] ah ok, that explains it. thanks [03:37] doug16k: only users that came from 18.04.0 start still have 4.15 [03:38] it works, but it's not quite perfect. there's a crash in dmesg every startup (in amdgpu code), but it works anyway [03:39] it's fairly amazing how well linux tolerates kernel mode exceptions nowadays [03:40] I don't think I have even seen a full blown kernel panic yet [03:40] in years of use [03:48] Hey all [03:49] if I installed 19.10 on my laptop with Bluetooth disabled in the BIOS and have turned it back on, how do you force it to go get the drivers for it? [03:49] After I reboot my server my drive assignments are different. /dev/sdd is not long the 4tb drive. now it is /dev/sda/. Will this be fixed if I use the UUID info from blkid? [03:50] xpistos, the drive assignments is machine specific, thus why UUIDs exist & should be used [03:53] xpistos, the 'fix' for sdx (changing) would need to come from your BIOS/UEFI as it provides the order used by the booted OS for each boot; thus just use UUID [03:54] guiverc: thanks a million!!! [03:54] guiverc: I will make those changes right now === bray90820_ is now known as bray90820 === Leion1 is now known as Leion [06:50] i want to set up the dhcp settings but it is not working on me [06:50] https://imgur.com/a/cGppzQN [06:50] this is what i get [06:51] https://pastebin.com/xmrKrgqN this is the dhcp.conf [06:51] i want to do it to my external wifi adapter [06:53] at first glance I suspect it's missing the closing } which is commented out on line 62 [06:55] geirha was that post to me? [06:55] Hi ! When the update from 19.04 to 19.10 will be available ? [06:55] mvvvv yes [06:58] is there any tool that setups dhcp automatic? there was one but i forget its name === Leion1 is now known as Leion [07:06] mvvvv: when it's ready [07:08] It's ready since october 16 [07:11] mvvvv: the upgrade path isn't [07:12] boktan: yes [07:12] installing 19.10 ,but trying to do manual lvm partitions ,or manual luks format before running installer ,in both case it installs normally ,but then I get the ubunut logo ,then initramfs prompt ,it never works what am Imissing ?? [07:14] you say its "missing" but on that line you saying me have a "}" geirha? [07:28] is there no way to install ubuntu with previously prepared lvm?? [07:31] linux: have you tried using the installer to setup your system? [07:31] linux: that's probably what you are missing [07:32] linux but your question is about not losing the information? [07:33] the installer doesn t let you manual lvm partitioning [07:33] if I do it manually before running installer it seems to work but on reboot doesn t [07:37] no way to successfully install on already made customs LVM?? [07:38] linux: try the old (debian) server installer [07:39] you mean going back to debian? [07:39] no way for the ubuntu installer to manage it? [07:39] no, using the server installer that is inherited from debian [07:40] thankyou ,will look into it ,is it a netinstaller or normalinstall?? [07:41] i want to set up the dhcp settings but it is not working on me https://imgur.com/a/cGppzQN this is what i get https://pastebin.com/xmrKrgqN this is the dhcp.conf i want to do it to my external wifi adapter [07:41] linux: the net installer also uses the debian installer, but has no uefi support iirc [07:41] ducasse: do you mean ubuntu server 19.10 oe something else?? [07:42] linux: yes, the server image without 'live' in the name [07:43] ducasse: thank you so much ,it s actually great I ll have only the packages I need then! [07:43] linux: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/19.10/release/ubuntu-19.10-server-amd64.iso [07:43] linux: ^^ that one [07:44] yes already on it thanks [07:56] i need help please help me [07:56] !ask | boktan [07:56] boktan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [07:59] boktan: uncomment line 62 [07:59] the bracket isn't closed [08:01] legreffier result is same if i check the satus [08:02] https://pastebin.com/AAMAv27L this is the ifconfig output [08:02] I'm not sure what you want to do [08:02] i do want to start the dhcp without errors [08:02] i cannot start it [08:02] but for network setting on laptop/desktop , you usually don't need to fiddle with those [08:03] https://imgur.com/a/cGppzQN this is what i get [08:03] but it should find those parameter from the gateway without you having to set them up. === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [08:03] on the default file it was giving again same error [08:04] then i decide to edit it [08:04] boktan: line 54 is missing a ';' [08:04] what did you change in this file [08:04] ? [08:04] ip ranges etc [08:04] A slightly different configuration for an internal subnet. [08:04] this place i [08:04] change [08:05] the bracket '}' and the ';' it should fix it syntax-wise [08:06] legreiffer i did it this is what i get after start and after status command https://imgur.com/a/YkfmAeX [08:06] legreffier [08:08] sudo gedit /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server https://pastebin.com/VsFc2WYR [08:09] ifconfig https://pastebin.com/BU9dZCiN [08:09] legreffier i cannot understand what is wrong here [08:11] boktan: unless you want to use this machine as a router, you should use the settings in your desktop to setup the network [08:12] legreffier how to do it? [08:12] should i revert this files first to orginal? legreffier [08:17] boktan: yeah [08:18] but after how to do it in my desktop legreffier? [08:18] those settings should really come from your network (it's the whole point of dhcp) [08:18] click on the network icon in the upper right of your desktop [08:25] if i try to do from desktop with my external wifi adaptor it is creating ap with my internal ap :D legreffier [08:26] there was a tool to do it automaticly but i forget its name :/ [08:34] boktan: The line has #} not } [08:35] geirha i think you said me i should remove it on line 62 it was i think :D [08:35] # max-lease-time 7200;#} [08:35] yes, you need to change the #} on line 62 to }, otherwise the opening { on line 53 is never closed [08:36] now i did it it like you seid geirha [08:36] said* [08:37] Hello can anyone help me get my wifi adapter working properly? [08:37] geirha https://imgur.com/a/fVzlgTI status is same :/ [08:39] boktan: Ok. Spotted another syntax error on line 54. Missing semicolon at the end of the line [08:40] My usb wifi adapter is able to connect to my router but DL speed is slower than it should be. Maxes at 10mbps on 2G and at under 1mbps on 5G [08:40] geirha this i already fix [08:41] boktan: try this: https://stackoverflow.com/a/14160480/1524545 === milkshake is now known as Milkshake [08:43] dhcpd -t -cf /path/to/dhcpd.confInternet Systems Consortium DHCP Server 4.4.1Copyright 2004-2018 Internet Systems Consortium.All rights reserved.For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/Can't open /path/to/dhcpd.conf: No such file or directoryIf you think you have received this message due to a bug ratherthan a configuration issue [08:43] please read the section on submittingbugs on either our web page at www.isc.org or in the README filebefore submitting a bug. These pages explain the properprocess and the information we find helpful for debugging.exiting. [08:44] ups sorry wait [08:44] For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/bad range, address 192.168.43.100 not in subnet 192.168.43.0 netmask 255.255.255.224 [08:45] https://pastebin.com/VpS5S8cM [08:45] this is the output [08:45] perhaps that netmask was supposed to be 255.255.255.0? [08:47] now the output from check and status changed [08:47] this is the status https://pastebin.com/cZ3sbnWh [08:47] Hello can anyone help me get my wifi adapter working properly? [08:48] this is the output from what you send me geirha https://pastebin.com/jvCTuUUz === Grldfrdom_ is now known as Grldfrdom [08:49] yeah, so now the syntax is good and dhcpd manages to start. That message about eno2 looks like just an informative warning [08:49] saltyfamiliar: can you ran and post lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999 === Grldfrdom is now known as Grldfrdom_ [08:50] this eno2 appears later before it wasnt there i dont know what it is but ifconfig is this : https://pastebin.com/hu8AHxiz [08:50] saltyfamiliar: this is to find out which exact wifi adapter yuo have there [08:51] tomreyn: done [08:52] tomreyn: It can connect to my network so I know the driver is at least half working. But the speed is very slow [08:52] saltyfamiliar: it shoud have returned a http address [08:53] please post that here, since i could not otherwise see what you posted [08:53] boktan: well, if it's enough that the dhcpd only responds on wlo1, you can just ignore the message [08:53] https://termbin.com/jm0b [08:54] saltyfamiliar: so i guess it's the Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13b1:003e Linksys AE6000 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wireless Adapter [MediaTek MT7610U] [08:54] tomreyn: yes [08:54] whats your ubuntu release? lsb_release -ds [08:55] Ubuntu 19.10 [08:56] after restart dhcp not giving error :/ [08:57] saltyfamiliar: hmm that's a pretty badly supported device. i'll see if i can find a better driver somewhere [08:58] thank you so much for helping legreiffer and geirha [08:58] legreffier [08:58] tomreyn: This is a list of the drivers that are loaded on my computer right now: https://termbin.com/jk1r [08:59] The mt76 stuff are the ones for my adapter [09:01] saltyfamiliar: right, how did you install this one? [09:01] It came preloaded with Ubuntu [09:02] hey tomreyn saltyfamiliar geirha Im having an issue with this command: for i in $(seq 1 3); do lxc launch ubuntu:x "c${i}"; done [09:02] It keeps telling do isnt proper syntax? [09:02] is anyone else having issues with for loops? [09:02] aw I thought it'd auto-correct that. [09:06] saltyfamiliar: can you journalctl -b | grep mt76 | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:08] https://termbin.com/ms54 [09:09] oh that's less than i expected [09:09] saltyfamiliar: maybe your full log then: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:10] https://termbin.com/vtvs [09:12] saltyfamiliar: thanks, this can take 5 minutes to review [09:15] Fallenour: what's the exact error message? [09:16] tomreyn: hi, I just wanted to ask before I go ahead with updating my bios and fresh installing Ubuntu... Would you recommend using Mackup or Aptik, or..? [09:26] saltyfamiliar: sorry, took me a while. so i don't see a lot of options really. there's a newer driver at https://github.com/openwrt/mt76 but you'd need to build and set it up yourself, and keep rebuilding it on every kernel update. === Leion1 is now known as Leion [09:27] tomreyn: I guess that's fine. How do I build it and set it up? [09:28] saltyfamiliar: so if replacing it is an option i'd recommend you do so, get a better supported one and sell this one [09:29] to build this one you'd "git clone" it, then run "make", but i'm not really looking forward to guide [09:29] saltyfamiliar: iwconfig | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:30] https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/ee41492935babd2ee3f868039aa2b8ed [09:30] oops [09:30] jeremy31: https://termbin.com/gbvqf [09:30] was going to ask if that was an option tomreyn [09:31] saltyfamiliar: sudo iwconfig wlx58ef68a77747 txpower 20 [09:32] tomreyn: Alright thanks anyway. I'll just look into figuring out how to build the driver myself if nothing else works === Peppep47 is now known as Peppep [09:33] saltyfamiliar: please work with jeremy, he's got a lot bette runderstanding of wireless than i have [09:34] SimonNL: thanks, but the git repository this references no longer exists [09:35] oops [09:35] I guess I need to delete that [09:35] :) [09:36] jeremy31: 2G works much faster now but 5G is still under 1mbps [09:36] I tried to upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10, but got an error about corrupted Python install. I found a suggestion about changing the symlink, but forgot to change from /usr/bin/python3.5 to 3.7 when running "sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/python3.5 /usr/bin/python3". Now I'm not able to run the terminal. Any suggestions? [09:36] Fallenour: /join ##bash for bash scripting help [09:36] jeremy31: yep [09:37] saltyfamiliar: iwconfig | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:38] https://termbin.com/jjuc [09:38] jeremy31: would this help https://github.com/pauledd/mt7610u [09:39] johnjbogle1: i don't even know what Mackup is. aptik i think i head before, but forgot what it was. what is it you're trying to do? [09:39] jeremy31: should I connect to the 5G network and send you the iwconfig output of that? [09:40] saltyfamiliar: For some reason that wifi keeps dropping to 5 dBm, mine usually run at 20-22 [09:41] SimonNL: not likely to compile on the 5.3 kernels as that github hasn't been updated in 2 years [09:46] jeremy31: iwconfig txpower 20 definitely sped up the 2G network so you're probably on the right track.. [09:46] saltyfamiliar: Is this a desktop? [09:47] jeremy31: yes [09:48] jeremy31: My phone is getting much higher speeds on the wifi so I don't think it's the router. Also I was getting faster speeds with this adapter when I was using Windows 10 [09:48] jeremy31: saltyfamiliar's lsusb https://termbin.com/jm0b lsmod https://termbin.com/jk1r journalctl -b https://termbin.com/vtvs [09:50] saltyfamiliar: most wifi devices will work better in windows as the drivers are tweaked to get as much as they can [09:51] i was surprised not to see a firmware load mentioned in the kernel log (especially since searching the web did show firmware being loaded). and the kernel module has no parameters [09:52] jeremy31 don't know if my input is worth anything but what you think of disabling /n/ac function in router [09:52] for a test [09:52] i.e. no mention of /lib/firmware/mediatek/mt7610u.bin [09:54] the longer I think of that the dumber it sounds [09:57] SimonNL: The way you talk reminds me of my brother, who killed himself. Don't be so hard on yourself [09:58] saltyfamiliar: take a look at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520 [10:00] Peppep: upgrades from 19.04 to 19.10 are not enabled / supported, yet, you must have used an unsupported upgrade path. [10:02] Peppep: and python3.5 wasn't actually available on anything later than ubuntu 16.04, hmm [10:07] tomreyn: The 3.5 part was because I found an old Q&A suggestion and forgot to change to 3.7. I don't know if that was the cause, but I'm getting dpkg errors when trying to use apt to reinstall python3. [10:08] Error code 1. I've tried the suggestions here, but they didn't solve it: https://itsfoss.com/dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1/ [10:14] Peppep: if you have some output you can share, i can try to help. [10:14] Peppep: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 tomreyn: I'm only able to get into bash via tty. Is there any way to copy/paste between Gnome and tty? [10:17] Peppep: so your default temrinal emulator is broken? maybe you have another one, such as xterm? [10:18] jeremy31: That stuff didn't work. For now I'm okay with using the 2G network not that it's a little faster, but I have to keep running iwconfig txpower 20 every few minutes or it gets slow again. This is a very strange problem [10:18] *now [10:18] Peppep: another way is to store commands in a text file, then cat textfile.txt | bash [10:18] saltyfamiliar: Might want to use Network Manager and disable Wicd [10:19] jeremy31: I am using Network Manager [10:20] saltyfamiliar: A lot of entries in the journal about Wicd [10:21] jeremy31: I tried to install it earlier to fix the problem but then I removed it and restarted [10:22] how do i install qt development libraries on 19.10? [10:23] tomreyn: I need to backup my settings and restore them, pre/post fresh install (albeit you suggested files only not configurations) [10:24] tomreyn: I was asking based off these 2: https://www.ostechnix.com/how-to-migrate-system-settings-and-data-from-an-old-system-to-a-newly-installed-ubuntu-system/ [10:24] saltyfamiliar: ls /usr/sbin | grep wicd [10:24] and https://www.ostechnix.com/backup-and-restore-application-settings-on-newly-installed-linux-system/ [10:24] ali1234: apt install build-essential qt5-default #qtcreator # << only if needed [10:24] okay thanks [10:25] jeremy31: How do I get rid of it? [10:26] johnjbogle1: i have no first hand experience with teejee's aptik fork (or rewrite), which he now sells licenses for, [10:26] saltyfamiliar: try> sudo apt purge wicd [10:27] Package 'wicd' is not installed, so not removed [10:27] johnjbogle1: i would do it roughly like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages [10:28] saltyfamiliar: systemctl | grep -i wicd | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:29] johnjbogle1: but maybe aptik is a good option for you, i just could not tell. [10:29] i cannot understand why i get this error from scapy https://pastebin.com/3tAsFZ7B [10:29] https://termbin.com/7hvl [10:30] saltyfamiliar: systemctl disable wicd.service [10:30] saltyfamiliar: I think it asks for a password twice, then do a reboot [10:31] Hi, I'd like to have a log (or log myself) when a any device is send to sleep(?)/turned off because of energy saving measures. Is there a possibility to log such things? === im0nde_ is now known as im0nde [10:37] jeremy31: I rebooted and got a message saying wicd couldn't connect to dbus on startup [10:37] saltyfamiliar: was wicd manually installed? [10:38] yeah I apt-get installed it [10:39] saltyfamiliar: I have to go now [10:40] jeremy31: Alright. Thanks for trying [10:44] boktan: there's no error on the pastebin... only infos and warning. [10:47] boktan is getting help in ##linux [10:48] ok thx for those [10:49] leru: that's probably highly driver specific. what's the overall goal there? [10:52] Hello. I'm having a problem with Ubuntu NTP server, as it's seems to be not configured to handle daylight savings at TZ America/Sao_Paulo. Official Brazilian DS started yesterday. Is this kind of issues handled here, or should I refer somewhere else? [10:55] rscarrasco: what's your ubuntu release, is it fully updated, which ntp server do you use? [10:56] tomreyn: I actually use Linux Mint 19.3, and I'm using ntp.ubuntu.org (I've checked that out running `cat /var/log/syslog | grep ntp`) [10:57] !mint | rscarrasco [10:57] rscarrasco: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [10:57] you're welcome to seek support here if you'll install ubuntu [10:58] Can you at least point me somewhere else, where I can check if Ubuntu NTP server is providingi the correct time for Brazil? [10:59] I understand this is a Ubuntu channel, but my problem seems to be with a Ubuntu server. I don't believe Mint folks can fix that... [11:00] rscarrasco, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html (not sure if it's what you want, but you're not on-topic) [11:01] rscarrasco: the ubuntu ntp server is working fine, and ntp servers do not care about time zones. [11:01] *servers are [11:01] tomreyn: we have a bunch of devices connected to a computer and we need to find out how and when they go to sleep. I don't know the specifics, but I guess it's about to find out when the whole system is ready to work again or how long it takes until the devices are turned off [11:01] tomreyn: they don't? Oh sorry, I thought they did it. Thanks. === Leion1 is now known as Leion [11:08] leru: it's most likely driver specific. which are hardware specific. providing a generic how-to won't be possible. your requirements / needs will need to be specified more thoroughly, and (if the generic approach still applies then) you'll want to have a senior sysadmin or a non junior programmer spend a couple days on this just to get a rough idea how it works. [11:12] tomreyn: I see. Thank you a lot. [11:14] you're welcome. [11:40] i want to install a package for ubuntu that's available in 19.04, but not in 18.04.. proftpd is running with version 1.3.5e in 18.04, but the version which is in disco is 1.3.6-4 [11:40] so how can i get that version for 18.04? [11:41] @zamba you could mix repositories and it could generate dependencies problem [11:42] lupulo: so what is the recommended way of doing this [11:46] zamba: compile it yourself [11:47] apt told me that lots of seemingly forensics-related packages are no longer required and can be removed. I thought have I been hacked? Turns out the "vagrant" package in bionic recommends vagrant-libvirt, which then drags in a shitton of dependencies. funny enough, virtualbox is only a "suggests". The standard use case for Vagrant is with VirtualBox, not with libvirt, this recommendation for libvirt makes no sense [11:49] Im not using gnome/gdm, can just kill gdm-session-worker? [11:49] I have systemctl stop-ped gdm already [11:49] you are not using gdm but you stopped it? [11:49] yes? [11:50] was it started before? [11:50] by default, I believe so [11:52] so i guess you're using lightdm now? [11:52] did you follow a guide to make the switch? [11:53] no, I just login via a tty === akem__ is now known as ak3M [11:55] squeezy: compiling packages is even worse than mixing distributions [11:56] squeezy: unless you can compile it and then build it as a package which could then be updated as a part of a future distribution upgrade [11:56] squeezy: is that possible? [11:56] and in htop I still see a 'gdm' user running gnome-shell [11:59] zamba, extremely unlikely [12:01] ifconfig wlan adapter name output is wlx00c0caa51d03 how to change the name of it? [12:01] no [12:01] why would you want to? [12:02] asking to me? TomyWork [12:02] yes [12:02] because it is long story to write that name on terminal everytime :D [12:02] then don't? [12:02] is anyone else noticing a large amount of LXD issues with Snap? @TomyWork boktan j`ey [12:02] first of all you can stuff it into a variable, an alias, a script [12:03] Fallenour, don't highlight people randomly [12:03] @tomreyn, zamba [12:03] 7~you can use tab completion if needed. or https://askubuntu.com/a/785442 [12:03] Fallenour, don't highlight people randomly! [12:03] Im asking everyone active TomyWork its not random [12:03] Fallenour, don't highlight people randomly!!!!!!! [12:03] is it not good to change the name of it? TomyWork? [12:04] boktan, in general it's not necessary and who knows what breaks if you do [12:04] LXD outages are a big deal to the community as a whole, and can cause global production outages. === peter-bittner1 is now known as peter-bittner [12:04] ive realized theres a major uptick in lxd outages since may of 2018, and has continued on for the entire 18 series of ubuntu, to include 18.04LTS [12:04] centered specifically around lxd snap [12:05] wtf is lxd snap even? [12:06] TomyWork, its a baseline install of lxd service currently being recommended by many mainstream services, to include ubuntu [12:06] ah, well i don't use that, so what's the point in highlighting me? [12:06] theres a collision from what ive seen so far from deb/snap, which is causing the database and backend core services with systemd to fail. [12:06] TomyWork, you are part of the community yes? [12:07] of the lxd snap community? no [12:07] TomyWork, of the ubuntu community [12:07] yes i use some of the 10000 other packages [12:07] TomyWork, then this includes you, because it impacts you. [12:08] if you use ubuntu 18 series, you use snap, whether you realize it or not [12:08] i use kubuntu [12:08] TomyWork, and other services on ubuntu 18 series are moving, migrating, or integrating snap, so are other deb packages, whether we want it to or not. [12:08] which is part of the problem. [12:09] side note, how do you like kubuntu? [12:09] yeah on gnome ubuntu they're using snaps now, for whatever reason [12:09] TomyWork, I think its a trainwreck personally [12:10] if you want to do something about it, personally I'd welcome it [12:10] TomyWork, thats part of what Im working on. Im currently rebuilding a production stack for I think the 5th time in 2 days from snap related issues. [12:10] snap is nice, i get intellij from it, updated whenever i do os updates. but why move core os components to snap? [12:11] TomyWork, my thoughts exactly. [12:11] core services shouldnt be moved ever, unless ABSOLUTELY necessary for kernel specific requirements. [12:11] otherwise, its risking boundless issues for no reason other than...something, becauase its sure not convenience. [12:12] Fallenour, wait, why is your production stack dependent on snaps? on kubuntu i have exactly 4 snaps. that's core, intellij and 2 more that i installed myself [12:12] i dont see why ubuntu-server would have more snaps by default than kubuntu [12:13] TomyWork, because I use LXD for most systems related deployments with Juju [12:13] (the "core" snap is "The core runtime environment for snapd" according to "snap info core", btw) [12:13] MaaS > Juju > 18.04LTS > Openstack [12:13] MaaS? Mess as a Service? [12:13] is my standard production flow. Everything is deployed in systems containers. [12:14] why don't you use docker like everyone else? [12:14] TomyWork, metal as a service, although mess does fit the bill from tiem to time. its one misclick away from disaster. [12:14] TomyWork, because service containers dont possess the security features or capabilites a systems container does. its one of the core issues in the current trending fad Im looking to fix. [12:15] Fallenour, you know that lxd is available also as a .deb pkg in repository, right ? not only as a snap [12:15] ioria, yeap, but the recommendation, and default deployment is snap [12:15] ok [12:15] i dont think any kind of container has adequate security [12:15] actually lxd is snap only since disco [12:15] why? I have no idea, because theres a laundry list of issues following the path that hurricane has unleashed. [12:15] but it's a nice isolation [12:16] Its not bad, dont get me wrong tomreyn but its causing a lot of issues. [12:16] i have not made a statement of support for lxd as a snap [12:17] I know tomreyn I think its a difficult argument for anyone to make honestly, but I can understand the modularity that snaps provide. [12:17] !info lxd disco [12:17] lxd (source: lxd): Transitional package - lxd -> snap (lxd). In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7 (disco), package size 8 kB, installed size 77 kB [12:17] i would have never thought of using snaps in a production deployment [12:17] that being said, I dont think everything should be a snap, like the calculator. someone thought that needed to be a snap? [12:18] "Transitional package - lxd -> snap (lxd)" <--- wait, that is possible? [12:18] all of the above looks like a discussion [12:18] lokks like it [12:18] !discuss [12:18] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [12:18] TomyWork, yea with lxd.migrate, although I dont recommend it [12:27] Hello, I have an issue with Ubuntu (18.04 LTS), SecureBoot and VirtualBox: I created my MOK key, imported it (`dmesg` confirms it's loaded), installed VirtualBox v6.0.14-133895, signed the *.ko modules but I still get "You must sign these kernel modules before using VirtualBox" from `/sbin/vboxconfig`... [12:30] CDuv: as long as only vboxconfig reports (informs about) this but linux is happy loading your modules with secureboot enabled i don't see an issue there. [12:31] not good, did anyone hear "2 in 1" laptop breakage on Ubuntu 19.10? E.g. not switching between modes anymore, not rotating screen? [12:32] HP printer install, hplip manually wasn't a good idea [12:33] hi guys [12:33] I'm install another distro and I'd like to add it on my grub file [12:33]