[00:33] <sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: you might wanna try some of the free software drum sequencers, they're really great these days :)'
[00:34] <DirtyEar> Hi.
[00:34] <studiobot> <Go_Diego_Go> You should try Hydrogen, it works great and you can find some cool kits online.
[00:34] <DirtyEar> I have tried Drumgizmo, but Is not what I am looking for
[00:34] <studiobot> <Go_Diego_Go> And it's also already in Ubuntu Studio.
[00:35] <sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: using WINE to record windows drum simulators might turn into a bigger headache than you would ever want... trust me :) You'll save time by learning one of the ones native to ubuntu studio in the long-run
[00:35] <sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: yeah, if drumgizmo isn't to your liking, hydrogen is your best bet, or just use the internal MIDI-drumkid in ardour
[00:35] <DirtyEar> I have installed AddictiveDrums through wine, but I cannot install Festige, do you know something I can use?
[00:36] <DirtyEar> I did not know about internal MIDI-drumkit in ardour??
[00:36] <DirtyEar> How can I use it?
[00:37] <sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: I hate to say this mate, but you just have to read the manual on ardour.org, it's well laid-out and doesn't take much time to handle
[00:37] <sirriffsalothp> I know it sucks having to re-learn stuff, but in the long run you'll be so glad you did, because using VST's and WINE for recording has been a nightmare in my experience
[00:37] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> well i can't use ubuntustudio 19.10 u.u so.. i come back to 19.04
[00:38] <sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: this is a tune I did a while back with all hydrogen drums, for example: https://soundcloud.com/user-740866226/a-vibratory-petition-an-ode-to-jordan-peterson
[00:38] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> a little sad :c
[00:38] <sirriffsalothp> studiobot: is it really that important a difference? :)
[00:39] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> I couldn't even prove it
[00:39] <sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: oh and yeah, I recommend that you fetch falktx's kxstudio repositories, they're great for further awesome-sounding recording and mixing
[00:39] <sirriffsalothp> studiobot: you're just a "new-slut" when it comes to software, then? :D
[00:41] <DirtyEar> sirriffsalothp Your song sounds really good, but I am looking something more realistic.
[00:41] <sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: yeah to be honest I was lazy, you CAN make it sound even better :P
[00:41] <sirriffsalothp> But if you're looking for that "timbre" realism, drumgizmo is your best bet, I met that dude, and he recorded every single layer himself with a lot of thought behind it
[00:42] <studiobot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> @DirtyEar [<DirtyEar> sirriffsalothp Your song sounds really good, but I am looking somethi …], You could always get dedicated hardware as well. Great equipment for cheap.
[00:42] <DirtyEar> I have tried Hidrogen and drumgizmo but in ubuntuStudio 16 I used to use Festige to open Addictive drums, but I cannot doing this time
[00:43] <DirtyEar> I cannot install festige and I am looking for some way to open addictive drums
[00:43] <sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: like I told you, it gets you trouble sooner or later :P But if you just wanna try and fix it and stick to where you're at, join #kxstudio and ask falktx what's happened with festige since 18.04 or whatever
[00:43] <studiobot> <Go_Diego_Go> You can get different sounds with different kits https://recursosinhumanos.bandcamp.com/releases
[00:44] <studiobot> <Go_Diego_Go> All of the songs were recorded with Hydrogen
[00:44] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> literally in live mode just start screen "ubuntu studio 19.10" and later asks me to disconnect the usb and press enter to turn off 😭
[00:45] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> what is the difference between 19.04 ans 19.10?
[00:45] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> obs by default? blender 2.80?
[00:45] <sirriffsalothp> studiobot: yeah sorry but those drums sound even less real :D Still cool tracks though, headbobbing to them now
[00:46] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> @sirriffsalothp [<sirriffsalothp> DirtyEar: this is a tune I did a while back with all hydrogen d …], so cool!
[00:48] <sirriffsalothp> Dude, Per Ardua Ad Astra could me a monstrously good orchestral movie-scene track...
[00:49] <sirriffsalothp> I'm picturing dragons or flying and mid-air fights of some kind, you feeling me?
[00:50] <sirriffsalothp> Exchanging between ground and air, kinda like in final fantasy, but more slow in its cuts and exchanges, you know?! Damn it's cool
[00:50] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> i feel a little frustrated that i decided to upgrade from 19.04 but the installation was lost and i had to reinstall
[00:52] <studiobot> <Go_Diego_Go> Thanks dude, composing for TV and movies is a long term goal for me so it's nice to know you got that feeling from the music!
[00:53] <studiobot> <Reese Polilla> (Sticker, 512x512) http://studiobot.ericheickmeyer.com:9090/shquPOUW/file_71.webp
[00:53] <sirriffsalothp> studiobot: no kidding? You're welcome, keep kicking them in the nuts 'til they let you in
[00:53] <sirriffsalothp> studiobot: how old are you, dude?
[00:56] <dehuszar> Hey all.  Not sure what's happening on my machine, but I've had a working Ubuntu Studio setup with Bitwig Studio 3, and as of today, I'm randomly no longer able to connect to jack.  Getting the following errors
[00:57] <dehuszar> Cannot initialize driverJackServer::Open failed with -1Failed to open server20:56:18.044 JACK was stopped20:56:20.060 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directoryCannot connect to
[00:57] <dehuszar> server request channeljack server is not running or cannot be startedJackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlockJackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
[00:57] <dehuszar> Cannot initialize driverJackServer::Open failed with -1Failed to open server20:56:18.044 JACK was stopped20:56:20.060 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directoryCannot connect to
[00:57] <dehuszar> server request channeljack server is not running or cannot be startedJackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlockJackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
[00:57] <sirriffsalothp> dehuszar: might wanna paste those in pastebin or something mate :) No ideas here though, sorry
[00:58] <dehuszar> I'm considering running an update to Ubuntu 19.10 and thus the Ubuntu Studio release, but I'm always a little nervous about doing that sort thign
[00:58] <dehuszar> I'm considering running an update to Ubuntu 19.10 and thus the Ubuntu Studio release, but I'm always a little nervous about doing that sort thing
[00:58] <sirriffsalothp> dehuszar: backup your files, and give that a try, if you still have problems, wipe the disk and install a fresh 19.04 see if it works :)
[00:59] <sirriffsalothp> dehuszar: better still, try running a 19.04 on a live usb stick, see if it works there first
[01:42] <studiobot> <Go_Diego_Go> @sirriffsalothp [<sirriffsalothp> studiobot: how old are you, dude?], I'm 28, I'm on second year of a music major, that's why it's long term lol
[02:18] <sirriffsalothp> studiobot: aha
[02:18] <sirriffsalothp> studiobot: wish you the best of luck :)
[02:19] <GayKitten> Hey anyone know and I hope this isn't a noob question how to install brave
[02:20] <Eickmeyer> sirriffsalothp: studiobot is more than one person, it's the Telegram <-> IRC bridge.
[02:21] <Eickmeyer> GayKitten: Since brave isn't part of the Ubuntu repositories, no help here. Sorry.
[02:21] <sirriffsalothp> Eickmeyer: lol I was wondering why I saw so many different names linked from it... how does that work? Never seen it before
[02:21] <Eickmeyer> sirriffsalothp: It's a bot that runs inside the Telegram group and the IRC channel simultaneously on a server.
[02:21] <Eickmeyer> sirriffsalothp: That said, this is a support channel and not the right place for such discussion.
[02:22] <Eickmeyer> sirriffsalothp: Look up TeleIRC.
[02:47] <studiobot> <Go_Diego_Go> I finally have some free time. I am having problems with Ardour recording. I'm not sure if it's Ardour related or Jack related. Thing is I get a lot of xruns, the sound stops (the xrun I suppose) and then continues. Also sometimes it just won't stop recording I press stop but it just keeps going, it's like it's simply not responding.
[02:47] <studiobot> I have to kill Ardour and restart.
[02:50] <studiobot> <Go_Diego_Go> Jack Messages/Status  … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GmZpcJmGFF/
[02:54] <sirriffsalothp> Eickmeyer: thanks mate
[03:06] <DirtyEar> Hi. I have UbuntuStudio 19.10 on my pc. I want to run VST plugins through Festige or Carla, Is there any idea of how to do it?
[14:38] <Lootre> Hi everybody, I have a question regarding Carla and SFZ soundfonts
[14:39] <Lootre> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Studion 19.10, but it seems like there is no backend for SFZ
[14:40] <Lootre> I get this error when trying to load SFZ: ad_open(): fatal: no decoder backend available
[14:59] <Eickmeyer> Lootre: I saw your bug report on Carla's github. I'm working with the upstream developer to see what gives since what we provide is completely unpatched from what he created, so please bear with us.
[15:03] <Eickmeyer> Lootre: Looks like I had made a mistake with the build dependencies, I"ll have a fix done by the end of the day (8:03am my time here).
[15:23] <Lootre> Eickmeyer thank you very much for your answer !
[15:24] <Lootre> Eickmeyer 5:24pm here, so I guess I'll get your fix tomorrow !
[15:26] <Eickmeyer> Lootre: Since it requires a Stable Release Update to get into 19.10, it might take a week actually. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[15:26] <Eickmeyer> Lootre: I should at least have something downloadable though.
[15:27] <Lootre> Eickmeyer that would be great
[15:53] <DirtyEar> Hi. I just installed UbuntuStudio 19.10 and I want to work with some vst plugins but I do not know how to. I had UbuntuStudio 16 and I worked with Festige but now I cannot installed. I have tried with Carla but it does not run any plugin. Any advice?
[15:53] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: The carla wine bridge is a separate install and requires the experimental parts to be installed.
[15:54] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: Hi. Thanks for answer. Do you know how can I do that?
[15:54] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: open a terminal, "sudo apt search carla" and make sure all components are installed.
[15:55] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: I'm only going to point you in the right direction, I'm not going to completely walk you through this process.
[15:55] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Also, make sure your VST plugins are in the regualar VST plugin paths.
[15:56] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Also, if you are using anything that requires soundfonts, that will not work currently as I'm working on a bugfix for that.
[15:56] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: I already installed the plugin and I add the path in Carla. Is it right?
[15:56] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Yes, but unless you have the wine bridge installed (every component listed in "sudo apt search carla") it will not work.
[15:56] <Eickmeyer> You'll also have to scan.
[15:57] <Eickmeyer> And PLEASE do not use IRC as your only method of support. Right now, I'm assuming your need is relatively urgent.
[15:58] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: This is what I get.
[15:58] <Eickmeyer> !paste | DirtyEar
[15:58] <ubottu> DirtyEar: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:59] <OvenWerks> Instead of using a wine bridge is there any reason not to just do the project in windows?
[16:00] <OvenWerks> If there is a significant investment in windows plugins, I would suggest sticking with that platform.
[16:01] <OvenWerks> DirtyEar: ^^
[16:02] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: Thanks for your support. I have a HomeStudio and I hace some works to finish. My old pc was broken and I have to setup quickly my PC in order to keep working. I ask for some money to my bank ir order to buy a new PC and last week I could buy the new one and I have work for a week in order to put everything right, but I use Additive Drums
[16:02] <DirtyEar> for the bands to play drums and in my old pc I play it with festige now I have try Drumgizmo and Hidrogen but It does not sound very good, for that reason I want to run Additive Drums but I cannot do it. I really appreciate the help you give me and the patience to guide me through the process
[16:03] <DirtyEar> THis is what I get https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YdgXwZ2PqY/
[16:05] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: you're using KXstudio.
[16:05] <Eickmeyer> !kxstudio | DirtyEar
[16:05] <ubottu> DirtyEar: KXStudio is an Ubuntu-based operating system and a repository for Debian-based operating systems for audio production. Development is on hiatus until late-2019 as of this writing.  It is not supported by Ubuntu or Ubuntu Studio, and using its repo is discouraged. Support in #kxstudio.
[16:05] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Your support here is discontinued.
[16:05] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: UbuntuStudio 19.10
[16:05] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Once you add KXStudio's repos, you're no longer using Ubuntu Studio or its packages.
[16:06] <Eickmeyer> Which you have clearly done.
[16:06] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: Thansk. I did not now that.
[16:07] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: We have posted items in the past. Please seek support in #kxstudio. Thank you.
[16:08] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: I will do. Thanks.
[16:09] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Mention you are using the KXStudio repos.
[16:10] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: The reason is because we have to draw the line. We can't support packages we don't directly maintain, and since we don't maintain the verison of Carla in KXStudio, we can't help you.
[16:13] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: Is there to much difference between UbuntuStudio and KXStudio?
[16:13] <DirtyEar> I always have installed UbuntuStudio
[16:15] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Doesn't matter, once you are using the KXStudio repos, it overrides our default packages and you no longer have the Ubuntu versions, therefore no longer Ubuntu Studio. We cannot and will not support that.
[16:16] <OvenWerks> DirtyEar: have you tried AVLdrums? http://x42-plugins.com/x42/x42-avldrums
[16:17] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: Ok. My excuses, I really like UbuntuStudio and I do not want to bother you because you do and excellent work.
[16:18] <DirtyEar> Is there any way to come back with UbuntuStudio 19.10?
[16:18] <DirtyEar> OvenWerks: No, I will see and then I will let you now. Thanks!
[16:21] <DirtyEar> OvenWerks: It looks really good. I have used Drumgizmo but It uses a lot or RAM, is it the same to AVLDrums? Excuse if is a stupid question
[16:26] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: So, to get back to pure Ubuntu Studio, you're going to have to do a clean install. The packages you have installed as a result of adding the KXStudio repo supercedes everything and it's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to remove the repo since the process that is used is non-standard.
[16:33] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: That means I have to reinstalled ubuntuStudio. I will do.
[16:35] <DirtyEar> I am thinking the best option for me right now is AVLDrums. I may used it on UbuntuStudio, right?
[16:36] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Absolutely. The x42 plugins are amazing.
[16:38] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: Thanks a lot for your time and patience to help me. May I ask you for some advice after I installed UbuntuStudio 19.10. Again?
[16:38] <OvenWerks> AVLDrums should be much lighter than drumgizmo
[16:38] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Absolutely. I, as well as OvenWerks, are glad to help, but remember we're just volunteering our time like everyone else.
[16:39] <OvenWerks> the newest drumgizmo which may not be in debian yet plays dirrect from disk and so needs a lot less memory
[16:41] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: I now. For that reason is what I am very grateful with you. Always some of you give some time to help me. Really thanks a lot!
[16:42] <DirtyEar> I mean, to all of you. Thanks a lot. My english is not good but you always help
[16:42] <Eickmeyer> You're quite welcome, DirtyEar.
[16:43] <DirtyEar> OvenWerks: I am thinking is my best option right now.
[16:44] <DirtyEar> I have some projects I recorded with Addictive Drums in UbuntuStudio 16 with Ardour 5. Is there any problem to open and try to work not with Addictive Drums but AVLDrums?
[16:46] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Might be a better question for you. ^ As far as I know, 16.04 had an older version of Ardour.
[16:47] <DirtyEar> I was using UbuntuStudio 16 and Ardour 5.0.12 or something like that. Is it wrong?
[16:47] <OvenWerks> the changes from Ardour 5.0 to 5.12 should be mostly bug fixes and the session file format should be the same.
[16:47] <Eickmeyer> !yy.mm | DirtyEar
[16:47] <ubottu> DirtyEar: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[16:49] <OvenWerks> 16.04 came with Ardou 4.6 but there was a 5.0 version available for it too.
[16:49] <OvenWerks> I do not remember what 15.10 came with
[16:49] <OvenWerks> sorry 16.10
[16:50] <OvenWerks> (it's a dark day out and my KB is harder to see :P
[16:51] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: The struggle is real.
[16:51] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer Last time I used UbuntuStudio with Ardour and Festige was 2 weeks back.
[16:52] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: Yeah, but 16.04 is past End-Of-Life (support ended in April)
[16:53] <DirtyEar> Eickmeyer: Ok. I did not now it.
[16:53] <Eickmeyer> DirtyEar: It was posted on ubuntustudio.org. That's where all of the release announcements and EOL announcements go.
[16:53] <DirtyEar> May I share with you my pc in order to get a feedback for some extra configurations?
[16:53] <Eickmeyer> No, we don't do that for a number of reasons.
[16:56] <DirtyEar> Ok. Does does not matter.
[16:56] <DirtyEar> Thanks to all the support and the patience. I really appreciate this Linux Community
[16:57] <Eickmeyer> Quite welcome.
[16:57] <DirtyEar> Thanks a lot!
[17:00] <OerHeks> No thanks, write some pretty music please
[17:24] <CJS> Anyone here using Studio on a ThinkPad X1 Extreme?
[17:28] <CJS> Oh, nobody is here. Bummer.
[17:30] <OvenWerks> 4 minutes Cool
[17:32] <OerHeks> add topic: post some music creation before asking help, thanks
[17:37] <studiobot> <SomeIrrelevantPerson0000> @OvenWerks [<OvenWerks> 4 minutes Cool], Savage
[17:47] <DirtyEar> Is there any way to install all x42-plugins in one line?
[18:54] <DirtyEar> Hi. I have been trying to install AVLDrums but it does not work. Any advice?
[18:57] <tomreyn> "it does not work" is number #1 on the looong list of not so useful error descriptions
[18:59] <DirtyEar> tomreyn I already download the files and extract the files in a folder in /home/ but I cannot see the plguin in ardour or Carla
[19:01] <tomreyn> i'm afraid i know nothing at all about it, but this extra info will aid others in supporting you.
[19:06] <tomreyn> hmm according to documentation i can find you're supposed to place the downloaded files (without extra subdirectories) in ~/.lv2 and then Ardour and Carla should be able to discover them there through the LV2 plugin interface.
[19:07] <tomreyn> I suspect you may need to restart these applications, or at least make their LV2 interface update their list of available plugins.
[19:11] <tomreyn> you may need to set the LV2_PATH environment variable to point to ~/.lv2 to make ardour find those plugins.
[19:12] <tomreyn> DirtyEar: ^
[19:13] <DirtyEar> I already add the path, but It does not fix the situation
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