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The_LoudSpeakerwxl: I think we should have pi image. We have come a long way from 16.04.08:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OjDGgVjTa1ioB8cqrWX7vL3uRA0ABu2F/view?usp=sharing10:50
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> ^^ @tsimonq2 @kc2bez wxl:10:50
lubot<kc2bez> Thanks @The_LoudSpeaker10:50
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Umm I started recording a bit late so some of the beginning(2-3 mins) is missed but most of the talk is covered.10:51
lubot<kc2bez> Noted. Thanks for recording it.10:52
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Thanks wxl: for being the guest. Couldn't have done it without him.10:54
lubotАрон was added by: Арон16:20
lubot<Арон> Hello.  installed lubuntu 19.10, steam is not installed, has anyone encountered such a problem?16:22
lubot<HMollerCl> Steam isn't part of lubuntu, you need to install it16:26
lubot<Арон> please tell me how.16:27
lubot<HMollerCl> Unfortunately I'm not in my computer now, but I assume that you can install it with discover16:32
lubot<HMollerCl> sudo apt install steam16:33
lubot<HMollerCl> That could work16:33
lubot<Арон> in Discovery writes an error, I'll take a screenshot near the computer16:34
lubot<HMollerCl> Try with terminal16:34
lubot<HMollerCl> sudo apt install steam16:34
lubot<HMollerCl> @Арон [in Discovery writes an error, I'll take a screenshot near the computer], Oh, and please go to support channel, this is development16:53
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker re: pi, again, it's outside of our hands. it's Wimpress' (MATE) project that builds the pi images.17:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Oh. I will message him then. I think we should have. Let's listen to what he says.17:11
wxli mean to be fair, it affects mate, ubuntu, xubuntu, too17:18
wxlit always kind of was a nice side thing17:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> i had downloaded and installed ubuntu server for pi on a pi last month but I don't remember which version.17:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Did ubuntu provide a 18.04 one?17:20
wxlthere are core images for the pi 2 and 3 and snapdragon, etc http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/stable/current/17:24
wxlthere are "arm64" images for server, but i doubt that is necessarily pi-friendly17:24
wxloh but the pre-installs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/18.04/release/17:25
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I maybe had core or the preinstall one. However, we need a pi image of Lubuntu imo. What do others think?17:34
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 @kc2bez @HMollerCl @teward001 @guiverc @lynorian and others also.17:35
lubot<kc2bez> what did I miss? tl;dr17:37
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker wants pi.17:38
lubot<kc2bez> sounds good. there should already be a task for that.17:39
wxlthere's something of the sort, but dependent on oem17:43
wxlerr maybe not17:43
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2717:43
wxlthat's a whole different ball of wax17:44
wxloh hey look eoan is in meta-release now https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release17:45
wxlso a normal do-release-upgrade should work fine17:45
lubot<kc2bez> understood on the pi thing.17:46
wxleither way it's going to take pushing someone, whether it be canonical themselves or martin17:47
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I should ping Wimpress then? Or @tsimonq2 should? The task's assigned to him.17:48
kc2bezThere is always this route: https://bluesabre.org/2019/10/20/install-xubuntu-19-10-on-a-raspberry-pi-4/17:48
wxlwell that task is not technically a task to proceed in the way we have proceeded... it's a task to get official lubuntu images on the normal canonical infrastructure rather than through the ubuntu pi flavor maker17:49
wxlthat's for a 4, which technically is unsupported afaik17:49
wxloh i stand corrected17:49
kc2bezTrue but you should be able to do it on an earlier pi17:50
kc2bezThe base is the same17:50
wxlso raise your hand if you have a pi2+ and name your model? anyone got a 4?17:51
wxlalso we need to make a new task: teleirc— he dead https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc/commit/185b0ded66b7423b6c249858e8ed279266c6a8da17:51
kc2bezI have a 3b ( I think)17:52
lubot<Dreamingwolf> Mine is 3b+17:52
kc2bezconfirmed mine is the 3b+17:53
wxli think i might have a 2 and i know i have a 317:53
wxlso can one of ya'll try just installing lubuntu-desktop?17:54
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @Dreamingwolf [Mine is 3b+], Same17:55
kc2bezNot sure if I will have time tonight but I think I can tomorrow.17:56
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> so can one of ya'll try just installing lubuntu-desktop?], Me. Tonight.17:56
kc2bezHave to go back AFK for a bit.17:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T27: Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27#252018:09
lubot<Арон> if anyone has the opportunity, please install steam, from a store or terminal, to install or not?18:23
ubot93For Lubuntu support, please join the #lubuntu channel on IRC or https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support for Telegram.18:24
wxlwow, serendipity re: pi https://mastodon.technology/@lubuntu/10300768078132081219:29
* kc2bez guesses he should order a pi419:32
wxlso it seems the problem i had with the kernel panic in vbox was based on too little resources.. 512mb was asking too much i guess19:33
kc2bezprobably without swap. 19:34
wxlno, i've got swap19:34
wxlvbox doesn't seem to be using it at all19:34
wxland tbh swap usage didn't increase with the additional load from vbox19:35
wxlincidentially the issue was that it couldn't unpack the initramfs19:35
kc2bezthat's interesting. 19:39
lubot<teward001> wxl: yeah for *setup* you need more than 512MB nowadays I think19:40
lubot<teward001> i ran into a similar problem trying to unpack Server on a 512MB RAM VM19:40
kc2bezI know I tried once with less than 512 once just to see if I could. I guess I need to re-run that. 19:41
wxli understand with ubiquity but cala has always been pretty light19:42
wxland in this case it's not even about the installer... this is core linux stuff19:44
lubot<kc2bez> I forgot to mention my findings on the file-picker. it looks like it is worse than we thought. it appears to be persistent across applications too.19:48
lubot<teward001> @kc2bez resync us on context?19:48
lubot<kc2bez> we were looking at implementing a default for the wallpaper folder.19:49
lubot<teward001> ah19:50
lubot<kc2bez> so if I have a folder I selected for wallpaper then I open virtual box it looks for an iso in my wallpaper folder. or vice versa.19:50
lubot<kc2bez> it would be tough to set a default for any one thing with the current state.19:51
wxlwow rough19:53
wxlmaybe that might make for a feature request? per-application memories?19:53
lubot<kc2bez> I should do some further testing and probably on other distros.19:55
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> got it. I had installed ubuntu core on the pi. had to use ssh keys from my sso account19:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> downloading latest server images for pi19:59
wxlcomment on that task when you figure it out19:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> sure.20:00
wxlelaborate on any details that need fleshed out.. maybe even start drafting our own version of the instructions20:00
wxli think we can at least offer that immediately if it works while we working on longer term solutions such as originally intended20:00
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Noted20:00
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> ughh!! 400KBps20:01
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> gg20:01
wxlhow on earth we managed to skype is beyond me XD20:01
lubot<teward001> Microsoft proprietary voice compression *shot*20:02
wxlfair point20:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> the tp room has a higher bandwidth alloted20:04
wxlso go hide in there20:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> E: locked. guard not accepting bribes.20:05
wxlthat's what tear gas is for20:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> lol!20:06
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [I should do some further testing and probably on other distros.], Lxqt file picker? There are a lot of commits we don't habe23:07
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> There is always this route: https://bluesabre.org/2019/10/20/install-xu …], What's the use of '^' here?23:09
lubot<HMollerCl> Look up, over, above23:11
lubot<HMollerCl> Previous post23:11
lubot<HMollerCl> Like 👆23:12
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. What do I select as display manager?23:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> When installing lubuntu-desktop23:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I have an option of lightdm and sddm23:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> sddm ?23:14
lubot<lynorian> @wxl [<wxl> and tbh swap usage didn't increase with the additional load from vbox], yes sddm is default23:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian [yes sddm is default], Ummm. You mean I should select sddm?23:14
lubot<lynorian> yes23:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I actually selected lightdm. 😶23:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Too late23:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Nevertheless, I will change it.23:16
lubot<kc2bez> @HMollerCl [Lxqt file picker? There are a lot of commits we don't habe], good point. I could actually try something closer to git.23:30
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez libfm-qt if I remember correctly.23:37
kc2bezyes, I think you are correct. 23:37
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker https://askubuntu.com/questions/211912/whats-the-caret-mean-in-apt-get23:43
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker https://askubuntu.com/questions/211912/whats-the-caret-me …], thanks!23:43
lubot<HMollerCl> aaaaaaaaaa, I thought in irc, telegram, jajajaj or hahhah23:45
wxli caught that but i think it went over everyone's head XD23:45
lubot<kc2bez> it did23:46
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> it sure did23:46
lubot<kc2bez> I kept scrolling up XD23:46
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I still didn't get it23:47
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> lite23:47
wxldon't get which? the link?23:47
lubot<HMollerCl> has anyone used tora? a Qt *sql* client?23:47
wxl(except i wouldn't use it because i just `psql`)23:47
lubot<HMollerCl> it was in the repo until 19.0423:48
wxl((and non-postgres is icky)) XD23:48
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> don't get which? the link?], Lite. I got the link. didn't get the joke or what @HMollerCl was trying to say23:48
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 84% installtion done23:48
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> ((and non-postgres is icky)) XD], it's for postgre too, https://github.com/tora-tool/tora23:48
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker you said "what does ^ mean?" and he said "it means look above"23:48
wxlyou know like ^ look here Raman23:49
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> yeah gotcha!23:49
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/wiki23:50
wxllooks a lot cleaner than pgadmin23:50
lubot<HMollerCl> tld;dr the problem is I still haven't been succesfull compiling it.23:51
wxlah HA now we get to the point23:51
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> the problem with my pi setup is, I don't have an external monitor. I will have to use vnc and a bit of a tweak to get ssh initially but all good so far lets wait for installation to finish. … I will have to get a wifi router from home next time. I have only 1 lan port23:51
lubot<HMollerCl> jaja, but won't try again today. Need to push changes for redshift-qt.23:52
wxli presume you saw https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/blob/master/README.CMAKE ?23:52
lubot<HMollerCl> yes23:52
lubot<HMollerCl> I edited soem files, (libscitilla2 qt5 names are differnt now)23:53
lubot<HMollerCl> that's the latest error I got https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/issues/9423:54
lubot<HMollerCl> but he lines were alredy uncommented...23:55
wxlwhy not run build-dep against the 19.04 version?23:56
lubot<HMollerCl> good idea,  it has a /debian in git but it's outdated.23:58

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