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| The_LoudSpeaker | wxl: I think we should have pi image. We have come a long way from 16.04. | 08:15 |
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| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OjDGgVjTa1ioB8cqrWX7vL3uRA0ABu2F/view?usp=sharing | 10:50 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> ^^ @tsimonq2 @kc2bez wxl: | 10:50 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Thanks @The_LoudSpeaker | 10:50 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Umm I started recording a bit late so some of the beginning(2-3 mins) is missed but most of the talk is covered. | 10:51 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Noted. Thanks for recording it. | 10:52 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Thanks wxl: for being the guest. Couldn't have done it without him. | 10:54 |
| lubot | Арон was added by: Арон | 16:20 |
| lubot | <Арон> Hello. installed lubuntu 19.10, steam is not installed, has anyone encountered such a problem? | 16:22 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Steam isn't part of lubuntu, you need to install it | 16:26 |
| lubot | <Арон> please tell me how. | 16:27 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Unfortunately I'm not in my computer now, but I assume that you can install it with discover | 16:32 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> sudo apt install steam | 16:33 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> That could work | 16:33 |
| lubot | <Арон> in Discovery writes an error, I'll take a screenshot near the computer | 16:34 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Try with terminal | 16:34 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> sudo apt install steam | 16:34 |
| apt-ghetto | https://itsfoss.com/install-steam-ubuntu-linux/ | 16:35 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @Арон [in Discovery writes an error, I'll take a screenshot near the computer], Oh, and please go to support channel, this is development | 16:53 |
| wxl | @The_LoudSpeaker re: pi, again, it's outside of our hands. it's Wimpress' (MATE) project that builds the pi images. | 17:08 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Oh. I will message him then. I think we should have. Let's listen to what he says. | 17:11 |
| wxl | i mean to be fair, it affects mate, ubuntu, xubuntu, too | 17:18 |
| wxl | it always kind of was a nice side thing | 17:19 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> i had downloaded and installed ubuntu server for pi on a pi last month but I don't remember which version. | 17:19 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Did ubuntu provide a 18.04 one? | 17:20 |
| wxl | https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/download/ | 17:21 |
| wxl | there are core images for the pi 2 and 3 and snapdragon, etc http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/stable/current/ | 17:24 |
| wxl | there are "arm64" images for server, but i doubt that is necessarily pi-friendly | 17:24 |
| wxl | oh but the pre-installs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/18.04/release/ | 17:25 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I maybe had core or the preinstall one. However, we need a pi image of Lubuntu imo. What do others think? | 17:34 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 @kc2bez @HMollerCl @teward001 @guiverc @lynorian and others also. | 17:35 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> what did I miss? tl;dr | 17:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker wants pi. | 17:38 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> sounds good. there should already be a task for that. | 17:39 |
| wxl | there's something of the sort, but dependent on oem | 17:43 |
| wxl | err maybe not | 17:43 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27 | 17:43 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27 | 17:43 | |
| wxl | that's a whole different ball of wax | 17:44 |
| wxl | oh hey look eoan is in meta-release now https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release | 17:45 |
| wxl | so a normal do-release-upgrade should work fine | 17:45 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> understood on the pi thing. | 17:46 |
| wxl | either way it's going to take pushing someone, whether it be canonical themselves or martin | 17:47 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I should ping Wimpress then? Or @tsimonq2 should? The task's assigned to him. | 17:48 |
| kc2bez | There is always this route: https://bluesabre.org/2019/10/20/install-xubuntu-19-10-on-a-raspberry-pi-4/ | 17:48 |
| wxl | well that task is not technically a task to proceed in the way we have proceeded... it's a task to get official lubuntu images on the normal canonical infrastructure rather than through the ubuntu pi flavor maker | 17:49 |
| wxl | that's for a 4, which technically is unsupported afaik | 17:49 |
| wxl | oh i stand corrected | 17:49 |
| kc2bez | True but you should be able to do it on an earlier pi | 17:50 |
| kc2bez | The base is the same | 17:50 |
| wxl | so raise your hand if you have a pi2+ and name your model? anyone got a 4? | 17:51 |
| wxl | also we need to make a new task: teleirc— he dead https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc/commit/185b0ded66b7423b6c249858e8ed279266c6a8da | 17:51 |
| kc2bez | I have a 3b ( I think) | 17:52 |
| lubot | <Dreamingwolf> Mine is 3b+ | 17:52 |
| kc2bez | confirmed mine is the 3b+ | 17:53 |
| wxl | i think i might have a 2 and i know i have a 3 | 17:53 |
| wxl | so can one of ya'll try just installing lubuntu-desktop? | 17:54 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @Dreamingwolf [Mine is 3b+], Same | 17:55 |
| kc2bez | Not sure if I will have time tonight but I think I can tomorrow. | 17:56 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> so can one of ya'll try just installing lubuntu-desktop?], Me. Tonight. | 17:56 |
| kc2bez | Have to go back AFK for a bit. | 17:56 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T27: Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27#2520 | 18:09 | |
| lubot | <Арон> if anyone has the opportunity, please install steam, from a store or terminal, to install or not? | 18:23 |
| wxl | !support | 18:24 |
| ubot93 | For Lubuntu support, please join the #lubuntu channel on IRC or https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support for Telegram. | 18:24 |
| wxl | wow, serendipity re: pi https://mastodon.technology/@lubuntu/103007680781320812 | 19:29 |
| * kc2bez guesses he should order a pi4 | 19:32 | |
| wxl | so it seems the problem i had with the kernel panic in vbox was based on too little resources.. 512mb was asking too much i guess | 19:33 |
| kc2bez | probably without swap. | 19:34 |
| wxl | no, i've got swap | 19:34 |
| wxl | vbox doesn't seem to be using it at all | 19:34 |
| wxl | and tbh swap usage didn't increase with the additional load from vbox | 19:35 |
| wxl | curious | 19:35 |
| wxl | incidentially the issue was that it couldn't unpack the initramfs | 19:35 |
| kc2bez | that's interesting. | 19:39 |
| lubot | <teward001> wxl: yeah for *setup* you need more than 512MB nowadays I think | 19:40 |
| lubot | <teward001> i ran into a similar problem trying to unpack Server on a 512MB RAM VM | 19:40 |
| kc2bez | I know I tried once with less than 512 once just to see if I could. I guess I need to re-run that. | 19:41 |
| wxl | i understand with ubiquity but cala has always been pretty light | 19:42 |
| wxl | and in this case it's not even about the installer... this is core linux stuff | 19:44 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I forgot to mention my findings on the file-picker. it looks like it is worse than we thought. it appears to be persistent across applications too. | 19:48 |
| wxl | wuzzat? | 19:48 |
| lubot | <teward001> @kc2bez resync us on context? | 19:48 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> we were looking at implementing a default for the wallpaper folder. | 19:49 |
| lubot | <teward001> ah | 19:50 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> so if I have a folder I selected for wallpaper then I open virtual box it looks for an iso in my wallpaper folder. or vice versa. | 19:50 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> it would be tough to set a default for any one thing with the current state. | 19:51 |
| wxl | wow rough | 19:53 |
| wxl | maybe that might make for a feature request? per-application memories? | 19:53 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I should do some further testing and probably on other distros. | 19:55 |
| wxl | agree | 19:55 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> got it. I had installed ubuntu core on the pi. had to use ssh keys from my sso account | 19:59 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> downloading latest server images for pi | 19:59 |
| wxl | comment on that task when you figure it out | 19:59 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> sure. | 20:00 |
| wxl | elaborate on any details that need fleshed out.. maybe even start drafting our own version of the instructions | 20:00 |
| wxl | i think we can at least offer that immediately if it works while we working on longer term solutions such as originally intended | 20:00 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Noted | 20:00 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> ughh!! 400KBps | 20:01 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> gg | 20:01 |
| wxl | how on earth we managed to skype is beyond me XD | 20:01 |
| lubot | <teward001> Microsoft proprietary voice compression *shot* | 20:02 |
| wxl | fair point | 20:02 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> the tp room has a higher bandwidth alloted | 20:04 |
| wxl | so go hide in there | 20:04 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> E: locked. guard not accepting bribes. | 20:05 |
| wxl | that's what tear gas is for | 20:05 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> lol! | 20:06 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [I should do some further testing and probably on other distros.], Lxqt file picker? There are a lot of commits we don't habe | 23:07 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> There is always this route: https://bluesabre.org/2019/10/20/install-xu …], What's the use of '^' here? | 23:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Look up, over, above | 23:11 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Previous post | 23:11 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Like 👆 | 23:12 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. What do I select as display manager? | 23:13 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> When installing lubuntu-desktop | 23:13 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I have an option of lightdm and sddm | 23:13 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> sddm ? | 23:14 |
| lubot | <lynorian> @wxl [<wxl> and tbh swap usage didn't increase with the additional load from vbox], yes sddm is default | 23:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian [yes sddm is default], Ummm. You mean I should select sddm? | 23:14 |
| lubot | <lynorian> yes | 23:15 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I actually selected lightdm. 😶 | 23:15 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Too late | 23:15 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Nevertheless, I will change it. | 23:16 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @HMollerCl [Lxqt file picker? There are a lot of commits we don't habe], good point. I could actually try something closer to git. | 23:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez libfm-qt if I remember correctly. | 23:37 |
| kc2bez | yes, I think you are correct. | 23:37 |
| wxl | @The_LoudSpeaker https://askubuntu.com/questions/211912/whats-the-caret-mean-in-apt-get | 23:43 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker https://askubuntu.com/questions/211912/whats-the-caret-me …], thanks! | 23:43 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> aaaaaaaaaa, I thought in irc, telegram, jajajaj or hahhah | 23:45 |
| wxl | i caught that but i think it went over everyone's head XD | 23:45 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> it did | 23:46 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> it sure did | 23:46 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I kept scrolling up XD | 23:46 |
| wxl | X'''''''''D | 23:46 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I still didn't get it | 23:47 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> lite | 23:47 |
| wxl | don't get which? the link? | 23:47 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> has anyone used tora? a Qt *sql* client? | 23:47 |
| wxl | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 23:47 |
| wxl | (except i wouldn't use it because i just `psql`) | 23:47 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> it was in the repo until 19.04 | 23:48 |
| wxl | ((and non-postgres is icky)) XD | 23:48 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> don't get which? the link?], Lite. I got the link. didn't get the joke or what @HMollerCl was trying to say | 23:48 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> 84% installtion done | 23:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> ((and non-postgres is icky)) XD], it's for postgre too, https://github.com/tora-tool/tora | 23:48 |
| wxl | @The_LoudSpeaker you said "what does ^ mean?" and he said "it means look above" | 23:48 |
| wxl | you know like ^ look here Raman | 23:49 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah gotcha! | 23:49 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> wxl https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/wiki | 23:50 |
| wxl | looks a lot cleaner than pgadmin | 23:50 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> tld;dr the problem is I still haven't been succesfull compiling it. | 23:51 |
| wxl | ah HA now we get to the point | 23:51 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> the problem with my pi setup is, I don't have an external monitor. I will have to use vnc and a bit of a tweak to get ssh initially but all good so far lets wait for installation to finish. … I will have to get a wifi router from home next time. I have only 1 lan port | 23:51 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> jaja, but won't try again today. Need to push changes for redshift-qt. | 23:52 |
| wxl | i presume you saw https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/blob/master/README.CMAKE ? | 23:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> yes | 23:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I edited soem files, (libscitilla2 qt5 names are differnt now) | 23:53 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> that's the latest error I got https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/issues/94 | 23:54 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> but he lines were alredy uncommented... | 23:55 |
| wxl | why not run build-dep against the 19.04 version? | 23:56 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> good idea, it has a /debian in git but it's outdated. | 23:58 |
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