[03:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALde0284147153: Add calc special character screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALde0284147153 [04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6d25dcb78f5a: Add calc special character screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6d25dcb78f5a [04:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc9845af205ea: Remove uneeded whitespeace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc9845af205ea [04:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL80c54a44e6db: Add hyperlink inserting to localc] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL80c54a44e6db [04:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9e05b92e85c5: Add Form to style link] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9e05b92e85c5 [04:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL070d0becd433: Add calc-link screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL070d0becd433 [08:15] wxl: I think we should have pi image. We have come a long way from 16.04. [10:50] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OjDGgVjTa1ioB8cqrWX7vL3uRA0ABu2F/view?usp=sharing [10:50] ^^ @tsimonq2 @kc2bez wxl: [10:50] Thanks @The_LoudSpeaker [10:51] Umm I started recording a bit late so some of the beginning(2-3 mins) is missed but most of the talk is covered. [10:52] Noted. Thanks for recording it. [10:54] Thanks wxl: for being the guest. Couldn't have done it without him. [16:20] Арон was added by: Арон [16:22] <Арон> Hello. installed lubuntu 19.10, steam is not installed, has anyone encountered such a problem? [16:26] Steam isn't part of lubuntu, you need to install it [16:27] <Арон> please tell me how. [16:32] Unfortunately I'm not in my computer now, but I assume that you can install it with discover [16:33] sudo apt install steam [16:33] That could work [16:34] <Арон> in Discovery writes an error, I'll take a screenshot near the computer [16:34] Try with terminal [16:34] sudo apt install steam [16:35] https://itsfoss.com/install-steam-ubuntu-linux/ [16:53] @Арон [in Discovery writes an error, I'll take a screenshot near the computer], Oh, and please go to support channel, this is development [17:08] @The_LoudSpeaker re: pi, again, it's outside of our hands. it's Wimpress' (MATE) project that builds the pi images. [17:11] Oh. I will message him then. I think we should have. Let's listen to what he says. [17:18] i mean to be fair, it affects mate, ubuntu, xubuntu, too [17:19] it always kind of was a nice side thing [17:19] i had downloaded and installed ubuntu server for pi on a pi last month but I don't remember which version. [17:20] Did ubuntu provide a 18.04 one? [17:21] https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/download/ [17:24] there are core images for the pi 2 and 3 and snapdragon, etc http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/stable/current/ [17:24] there are "arm64" images for server, but i doubt that is necessarily pi-friendly [17:25] oh but the pre-installs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/18.04/release/ [17:34] I maybe had core or the preinstall one. However, we need a pi image of Lubuntu imo. What do others think? [17:35] @tsimonq2 @kc2bez @HMollerCl @teward001 @guiverc @lynorian and others also. [17:37] what did I miss? tl;dr [17:38] @The_LoudSpeaker wants pi. [17:39] sounds good. there should already be a task for that. [17:43] there's something of the sort, but dependent on oem [17:43] err maybe not [17:43] https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27 [17:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27 [17:44] that's a whole different ball of wax [17:45] oh hey look eoan is in meta-release now https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release [17:45] so a normal do-release-upgrade should work fine [17:46] understood on the pi thing. [17:47] either way it's going to take pushing someone, whether it be canonical themselves or martin [17:48] I should ping Wimpress then? Or @tsimonq2 should? The task's assigned to him. [17:48] There is always this route: https://bluesabre.org/2019/10/20/install-xubuntu-19-10-on-a-raspberry-pi-4/ [17:49] well that task is not technically a task to proceed in the way we have proceeded... it's a task to get official lubuntu images on the normal canonical infrastructure rather than through the ubuntu pi flavor maker [17:49] that's for a 4, which technically is unsupported afaik [17:49] oh i stand corrected [17:50] True but you should be able to do it on an earlier pi [17:50] The base is the same [17:51] so raise your hand if you have a pi2+ and name your model? anyone got a 4? [17:51] also we need to make a new task: teleirc— he dead https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc/commit/185b0ded66b7423b6c249858e8ed279266c6a8da [17:52] I have a 3b ( I think) [17:52] Mine is 3b+ [17:53] confirmed mine is the 3b+ [17:53] i think i might have a 2 and i know i have a 3 [17:54] so can one of ya'll try just installing lubuntu-desktop? [17:55] @Dreamingwolf [Mine is 3b+], Same [17:56] Not sure if I will have time tonight but I think I can tomorrow. [17:56] @wxl [ so can one of ya'll try just installing lubuntu-desktop?], Me. Tonight. [17:56] Have to go back AFK for a bit. [18:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T27: Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27#2520 [18:23] <Арон> if anyone has the opportunity, please install steam, from a store or terminal, to install or not? [18:24] !support [18:24] For Lubuntu support, please join the #lubuntu channel on IRC or https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support for Telegram. [19:29] wow, serendipity re: pi https://mastodon.technology/@lubuntu/103007680781320812 [19:32] * kc2bez guesses he should order a pi4 [19:33] so it seems the problem i had with the kernel panic in vbox was based on too little resources.. 512mb was asking too much i guess [19:34] probably without swap. [19:34] no, i've got swap [19:34] vbox doesn't seem to be using it at all [19:35] and tbh swap usage didn't increase with the additional load from vbox [19:35] curious [19:35] incidentially the issue was that it couldn't unpack the initramfs [19:39] that's interesting. [19:40] wxl: yeah for *setup* you need more than 512MB nowadays I think [19:40] i ran into a similar problem trying to unpack Server on a 512MB RAM VM [19:41] I know I tried once with less than 512 once just to see if I could. I guess I need to re-run that. [19:42] i understand with ubiquity but cala has always been pretty light [19:44] and in this case it's not even about the installer... this is core linux stuff [19:48] I forgot to mention my findings on the file-picker. it looks like it is worse than we thought. it appears to be persistent across applications too. [19:48] wuzzat? [19:48] @kc2bez resync us on context? [19:49] we were looking at implementing a default for the wallpaper folder. [19:50] ah [19:50] so if I have a folder I selected for wallpaper then I open virtual box it looks for an iso in my wallpaper folder. or vice versa. [19:51] it would be tough to set a default for any one thing with the current state. [19:53] wow rough [19:53] maybe that might make for a feature request? per-application memories? [19:55] I should do some further testing and probably on other distros. [19:55] agree [19:59] got it. I had installed ubuntu core on the pi. had to use ssh keys from my sso account [19:59] downloading latest server images for pi [19:59] comment on that task when you figure it out [20:00] sure. [20:00] elaborate on any details that need fleshed out.. maybe even start drafting our own version of the instructions [20:00] i think we can at least offer that immediately if it works while we working on longer term solutions such as originally intended [20:00] Noted [20:01] ughh!! 400KBps [20:01] gg [20:01] how on earth we managed to skype is beyond me XD [20:02] Microsoft proprietary voice compression *shot* [20:02] fair point [20:04] the tp room has a higher bandwidth alloted [20:04] so go hide in there [20:05] E: locked. guard not accepting bribes. [20:05] that's what tear gas is for [20:06] lol! [23:07] @kc2bez [I should do some further testing and probably on other distros.], Lxqt file picker? There are a lot of commits we don't habe [23:09] @kc2bez [ There is always this route: https://bluesabre.org/2019/10/20/install-xu …], What's the use of '^' here? [23:11] Look up, over, above [23:11] Previous post [23:12] Like 👆 [23:13] Okay. What do I select as display manager? [23:13] When installing lubuntu-desktop [23:13] I have an option of lightdm and sddm [23:14] sddm ? [23:14] @wxl [ and tbh swap usage didn't increase with the additional load from vbox], yes sddm is default [23:14] @lynorian [yes sddm is default], Ummm. You mean I should select sddm? [23:15] yes [23:15] I actually selected lightdm. 😶 [23:15] Too late [23:16] Nevertheless, I will change it. [23:30] @HMollerCl [Lxqt file picker? There are a lot of commits we don't habe], good point. I could actually try something closer to git. [23:37] @kc2bez libfm-qt if I remember correctly. [23:37] yes, I think you are correct. [23:43] @The_LoudSpeaker https://askubuntu.com/questions/211912/whats-the-caret-mean-in-apt-get [23:43] @wxl [ @The_LoudSpeaker https://askubuntu.com/questions/211912/whats-the-caret-me …], thanks! [23:45] aaaaaaaaaa, I thought in irc, telegram, jajajaj or hahhah [23:45] i caught that but i think it went over everyone's head XD [23:46] it did [23:46] it sure did [23:46] I kept scrolling up XD [23:46] X'''''''''D [23:47] I still didn't get it [23:47] lite [23:47] don't get which? the link? [23:47] has anyone used tora? a Qt *sql* client? [23:47] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [23:47] (except i wouldn't use it because i just `psql`) [23:48] it was in the repo until 19.04 [23:48] ((and non-postgres is icky)) XD [23:48] @wxl [ don't get which? the link?], Lite. I got the link. didn't get the joke or what @HMollerCl was trying to say [23:48] 84% installtion done [23:48] @wxl [ ((and non-postgres is icky)) XD], it's for postgre too, https://github.com/tora-tool/tora [23:48] @The_LoudSpeaker you said "what does ^ mean?" and he said "it means look above" [23:49] you know like ^ look here Raman [23:49] yeah gotcha! [23:50] wxl https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/wiki [23:50] looks a lot cleaner than pgadmin [23:51] tld;dr the problem is I still haven't been succesfull compiling it. [23:51] ah HA now we get to the point [23:51] the problem with my pi setup is, I don't have an external monitor. I will have to use vnc and a bit of a tweak to get ssh initially but all good so far lets wait for installation to finish. … I will have to get a wifi router from home next time. I have only 1 lan port [23:52] jaja, but won't try again today. Need to push changes for redshift-qt. [23:52] i presume you saw https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/blob/master/README.CMAKE ? [23:52] yes [23:53] I edited soem files, (libscitilla2 qt5 names are differnt now) [23:54] that's the latest error I got https://github.com/tora-tool/tora/issues/94 [23:55] but he lines were alredy uncommented... [23:56] why not run build-dep against the 19.04 version? [23:58] good idea, it has a /debian in git but it's outdated.