| pieq | duflu, hi! I'm reviewing the bugs I opened during 19.10 beta testing. Regarding this: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1736, do you know what's the GNOME process usually? Do they leave all the bugs unassigned until it's taken by someone? | 01:34 |
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| * duflu looks | 01:35 | |
| duflu | pieq, yes exactly as you said | 01:35 |
| pieq | duflu, ok, thanks! | 01:36 |
| duflu | It's not affecting enough people for a developer to want to own it yet I guess | 01:36 |
| pieq | duflu, yeah I can imagine. | 01:52 |
| duflu | Made harder by the fact your dev machine would need a touchscreen... I wonder can you trigger it without one? | 01:53 |
| pieq | duflu, even though, it's a bit ironic in a way. The "curtain" you have to lift to unlock your desktop in GNOME3 is here because of the touchscreen (cause using a mouse to lift it is really a pain) | 01:53 |
| pieq | so I assumed they would be more proactive regarding touchscreen issues... but well. | 01:53 |
| pieq | duflu, I don't know how the OSK is triggered. I know you cannot click on the keys with the mouse, so I don't think it could be used at all without a touch screen | 01:54 |
| duflu | Well, if I was writing it I would make sure it was debuggable with a mouse *shrug* | 01:55 |
| pieq | :) | 02:01 |
| duflu | Morning mvo. The PulseAudio people would like some feedback (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/issues/749) | 05:40 |
| mvo | duflu: aha, right. yes, will do. I provided most logs already but not a debug log yet | 05:41 |
| duflu | Thanks. I don't have working HDMI audio handy myself | 05:41 |
| duflu | Though my DisplayPorts offer the HDMI audio sink, they don't trigger the bug | 05:43 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:19 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:52 |
| Wimpress | Morning o/ | 06:56 |
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| oSoMoN | morning Wimpress | 07:06 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks, oSoMoN and Wimpress | 07:10 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:12 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:12 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, oSoMoN, Wimpress | 07:17 |
| Wimpress | didrocks jibel JIm Salter talks about Ubuntu 19.10 and ZFS on root in the Techsnap Podcast episode 414. | 07:30 |
| Wimpress | https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/136002/rooting-for-zfs-techsnap-414/ | 07:30 |
| Wimpress | ZFS discussion starts at 21m 20s | 07:30 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: thanks! I'll listen to it during my daily exercise :) | 07:30 |
| ackk | hi, I installed 19.10 a couple of days ago, nightlight doesn't seem to work anymore. how can I debug the issue? | 07:33 |
| duflu | ackk, just subscribe to bug 1847551 :) | 07:36 |
| ubot5 | bug 1847551 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Mutter 3.34.1 broke Night Light, screen color profiles" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847551 | 07:36 |
| ackk | oh, I did search for night light, didn't find it | 07:38 |
| ackk | thanks | 07:38 |
| duflu | Yeah I usually think unresolved mutter bugs should have gnome-shell tasks so people can find them and save time/duplication | 07:40 |
| duflu | But since a fix already exists for mutter it might cause confusion if people think I'm suggesting fixing gnome-shell instead | 07:41 |
| Laney | hi! | 08:03 |
| oSoMoN | hi Laney | 08:09 |
| Laney | heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey oSoMoN | 08:12 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 08:13 |
| Laney | YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DUFLU | 08:16 |
| * duflu falls off chair | 08:17 | |
| Laney | damn it, now I have to do that for everyone to be fair | 08:17 |
| Laney | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447949360/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz | 08:22 |
| Laney | what | 08:22 |
| duflu | exit 1 | 08:23 |
| marcustomlinson | morning desktoppers | 08:39 |
| duflu | Morning marcustomlinson | 08:39 |
| pieq | duflu, regarding LP #1847551, is there a fix planned to land soon in Ubuntu? I just noticed the exact same issue while testing Wayland on a device we have here | 08:39 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1847551 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Mutter 3.34.1 broke Night Light, screen color profiles" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847551 | 08:39 |
| oSoMoN | good morning marcustomlinson | 08:40 |
| duflu | pieq, it looks like we're waiting on upstream to complete a mutter 3.34.2 release. Unless someone wants to package a fix quicker | 08:41 |
| pieq | duflu, got it | 08:42 |
| duflu | It looks relatively big already, so hopefully soon | 08:42 |
| duflu | Laney would know | 08:42 |
| Laney | https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirtyfive | 08:45 |
| Laney | Towards the end of November | 08:45 |
| Laney | HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII MARCUSTOMLINSON | 08:46 |
| Laney | oSoMoN: do you know if something changed in snapd to make https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447949360/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz happen? | 08:47 |
| duflu | pieq, Trevinho might want to do a sooner update of 3.34 since he's working on it upstream. Wait till he gets here | 08:48 |
| * Laney picked you as the most likely person to know in here atm | 08:48 | |
| didrocks | (and not an innocent random victimà | 08:49 |
| didrocks | )* | 08:49 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, nope | 08:50 |
| Laney | :( | 08:50 |
| pieq | Laney, one month without night light, my eyes are gonna melt. | 08:50 |
| oSoMoN | Ken would know, I suppose | 08:50 |
| didrocks | pieq: easy, no screen at nights from now on! :) | 08:50 |
| duflu | I say ask Marco because generally by the time I prepare a single fix SRU he usually has a multi-fix SRU ready to replace it | 08:50 |
| pieq | didrocks, you're so healthy... | 08:51 |
| didrocks | it's rather: do what I say, not what I do :p | 08:52 |
| duflu | Yes it is the noisiest eoan regression I have seen | 08:55 |
| duflu | subjectively | 08:55 |
| Laney | We agreed it wasn't a rls bug for the team, but if someone wanted to propose an upload with the patch and see it through the process, it could still happen. | 08:57 |
| Laney | mooooooooiiiiinnnnnn didrocks btw | 08:57 |
| didrocks | heyyyyyyy Laney ;) | 08:57 |
| Laney | didrocks: did you see the canary image failures? seems the PPA needs a focal package published | 08:58 |
| didrocks | Laney: well, the image doesn't boot anyway, but let's open the focal archive in the PPA as it's easy enough | 08:59 |
| Laney | alternative is to drop it from cdimage | 08:59 |
| didrocks | Laney: we aren't sure yet what will happen, let's wait for the Vancouver's sprint output, until then, I'll just do a dummy small upload, thanks for the ping! | 09:00 |
| Laney | okey! | 09:00 |
| duflu | pieq, conclusion: No plan yet. So I might have a go at it before the end of the day | 09:14 |
| duflu | Which for us is soon | 09:14 |
| pieq | duflu, cool! Thanks :) | 09:18 |
| duflu | Oh. I didn't realise it was Wayland only. That would be why it's low priority | 09:38 |
| duflu | Still the noisiest regression though | 09:39 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers (from London today!) | 09:51 |
| marcustomlinson | hey seb128 | 09:51 |
| seb128 | Laney, thx for relaying that canary image ping from yesterday evening to didrocks :) | 09:51 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson , how are you? | 09:51 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hi, | 09:51 |
| Laney | hi seb128 | 09:51 |
| Laney | didn't see any ping | 09:51 |
| Laney | just failure emails | 09:51 |
| seb128 | ah ok, infinit_y asked on the channel in the evening about it | 09:51 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 and Trevinho | 09:52 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: tired :P I woke up at 5 this morning, drove 50miles to accept a delivery at my parents house, and 50 back in time for work | 09:52 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, urg :( | 09:52 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, bonjourno Trevinho | 09:52 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: yourself? :) | 09:52 |
| Wimpress | seb128: o/ | 09:52 |
| Wimpress | I'm sat at a hot desktop by the turing space :-) | 09:53 |
| seb128 | Laney, the snap issue you pinged Olivier about, could it be because we didn't open the stable/ubuntu-20 track for them yet? | 09:53 |
| Trevinho | there are probably already few fixes that are sru material on shell / mutter, i will get few cherry picks ready (assuming .2 is not coming soon) | 09:55 |
| Laney | seb128: no, that fails in a much more obvious way | 09:56 |
| Laney | try like "snap download --channel=stable/ubuntu-20.04 gtk-common-themes" (it works) | 09:58 |
| seb128 | we are looking at it with W_impress | 10:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you know what command is returning the 'error: cannot validate seed:'? | 10:02 |
| seb128 | is that the check you added not long ago? | 10:02 |
| Laney | snap debug validate-seed or something | 10:02 |
| ricotz | hey desktopers :) | 10:03 |
| ricotz | I am curious about https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk/commit/3a906fe2ce99ec58f4327c25635d42aa1a1700ad#note_630137 | 10:03 |
| Laney | yeah, that's right | 10:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, Martin thinks the 20.04 track is missing and that install just fallback silently, refresh gives you an error | 10:04 |
| seb128 | when you try to refresh with the stable/ubuntu.... | 10:05 |
| Laney | why did we get builds previously then? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/ubuntu/ | 10:06 |
| seb128 | is the channel/track to use set somewhere and was just updated? | 10:08 |
| seb128 | or maybe you are right and it's not the issue | 10:08 |
| Laney | it's computed by livecd-rootfs | 10:10 |
| Laney | local CHANNEL=${3:-"stable/ubuntu-$(release_ver)"} | 10:10 |
| Laney | and you can see it passed to snap-tool in the build log | 10:11 |
| Laney | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MtnTWyxKBH/ | 10:11 |
| Laney | channel is there | 10:11 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, ^ | 10:12 |
| seb128 | (we are also in a meeting so looking on the side) | 10:15 |
| Laney | Trevinho: just SRU a snapshot imho if you're looking at doing lots of picks | 10:22 |
| Laney | oho, jbicha just said same on #debian-gnome :> | 10:29 |
| jbicha | good morning | 10:29 |
| Laney | o/ | 10:30 |
| Wimpress | seb128: https://github.com/intel/dptf | 10:38 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, thx | 10:40 |
| Wimpress | dptfxtract is in the archive too. | 10:41 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi :) | 10:43 |
| ricotz | seb128, I am hoping you will have time for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/1803136 | 10:45 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1803136 in vala (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Update to vala 0.40.17 in bionic" [Low,Confirmed] | 10:45 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, thx for the reminder, I will try to have a look today | 10:48 |
| clobrano | morning all 0/ | 10:48 |
| clobrano | if any of you preferred the dark gnome shell, now it can be changed :) https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/1578 | 10:49 |
| ricotz | seb128, that would be great, thanks! | 10:49 |
| seb128 | ricotz, k, just did it since it was easy enough :) | 10:51 |
| seb128 | hey clobrano , how are you? | 10:52 |
| seb128 | clobrano, nice one! :-) | 10:52 |
| clobrano | hey seb128, I'm fine, yourself? | 10:52 |
| seb128 | I'm good, in London today and tomorrow for some meetings and next cycle desktop plans reviews | 10:54 |
| ricotz | seb128, oh, so you will upload it? | 11:06 |
| seb128 | ricotz, it's uploaded now, needs SRU team review next | 11:07 |
| ricotz | great! | 11:07 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I commented on bug #1849162 , one reason we didn't do it at the same is that we already have a calendar preinstalled (gnome-calendar) | 11:30 |
| ubot5 | bug 1849162 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Lightning extension should be installed and enabled by default" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849162 | 11:30 |
| seb128 | we can have the discussion on how they would overlap, but we should talk about it before adding it imho | 11:30 |
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| ricotz | seb128, sorry, could you point me to the uploaded package for me to follow? I would have expected it here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=1 | 11:37 |
| seb128 | ricotz, sorry, I signed up with my Debian key, reuploading | 11:42 |
| ricotz | ok | 11:42 |
| ricotz | \o/ | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yeah, well I would love to snapshot, if it wasn't that I hate to make them.... In the sense that making it + pristine tar and stuff is a waste of time, or am I doing it wrong? | 11:51 |
| Laney | ninja dist? | 11:51 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yeah, plus creating a fake tag, plus import, push three branches... | 11:52 |
| Trevinho | but ideally I had just few commits in mind, but let me see | 11:53 |
| Laney | what fake tag? | 11:53 |
| Laney | think you are exaggerating just a little bit | 11:53 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1633319 | 12:00 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1633319 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "memory leak in indicator-datetime" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:00 |
| Wimpress | seb128: That is the bug I mentioned. Tagged as requested. | 12:00 |
| Trevinho | Laney: well we need a 3.34+git34568790 tag to make gbp happy to import it, no? | 12:05 |
| Trevinho | well, .1.. | 12:05 |
| Trevinho | anyways, I think i've to follow that rood | 12:06 |
| Trevinho | road* | 12:06 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: quite impressed about the Techsnap review, indeed. Accurate and deep dive :) | 12:15 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, thx | 12:17 |
| Laney | Trevinho: sorry was looking into some ppc64el weirdness | 12:27 |
| Trevinho | Laney: np | 12:27 |
| Laney | it's ninja dist; gbp import-orig --upstream-vcs-tag=<the commit you disted at> | 12:27 |
| Laney | https://salsa.debian.org/laney/mutter did it there for you | 12:27 |
| Laney | enjoy | 12:28 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I got that weird bug with the lockscreen being displayed over the session but not really | 12:28 |
| Trevinho | seb128: mh, still in your slow machine right? | 12:29 |
| seb128 | same as the other day, screen autolocked on idle and and immediatly moved the mouse because I didn't want to have it locking | 12:29 |
| seb128 | yes | 12:29 |
| seb128 | looks like it's an issue when you try to prevent the locking by an action when it already kicked in | 12:29 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so like stopping the idle.. | 12:30 |
| seb128 | yeah | 12:30 |
| Trevinho | seb128: try playing with gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay 1 | 12:30 |
| Trevinho | (i'm also doing it) | 12:30 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, so yeah, trivial to trigger here | 12:40 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, re-lightning, that makes sense, I wasn't aware of the rationale | 12:40 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ouch, I can't instead... mhmh, indeed some racing issue, can you give me access there via tmate? | 12:41 |
| Trevinho | once in broken state | 12:41 |
| oSoMoN | that doesn't prevent me from bundling lightning into the main thunderbird package, but maybe not enabled by default? that would be a good first step in the right direction | 12:41 |
| Trevinho | well, just before either | 12:41 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I'm in between meeting in the office, I will probably do that once I'm back, no hurry | 12:42 |
| Trevinho | or if you don't want to install tmate in snap there's something similar... can't remember the name though | 12:42 |
| Trevinho | sure | 12:42 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, yeah, I think it's fine | 12:42 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: do you remember the name of that? ^ | 12:43 |
| willcooke | reading | 12:43 |
| willcooke | what was that for? | 12:44 |
| willcooke | ohh | 12:45 |
| willcooke | erm | 12:45 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, adding it isn't going to add a new .desktop right? like looking in the overview for calendar would not list it? | 12:45 |
| willcooke | teleconsole | 12:46 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, seb128 ^ | 12:46 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, nope | 12:46 |
| oSoMoN | lightning is a pure thunderbird extension, it's installed as a packed xpi file in /usr/lib/thunderbird-addons/extensions/, so no desktop files | 12:47 |
| seb128 | k, good | 12:49 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hi, did you noticed localizations issues in thunderbird, exspecially names of default folders? | 12:59 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, yeah, that's a known bug, let me look up the number | 13:00 |
| oSoMoN | bug #1847772 | 13:00 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, ah, good | 13:00 |
| ubot5 | bug 1847772 in Mozilla Thunderbird "E-mail folder names are not localized in thunderbird 68" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847772 | 13:00 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, any concerns about this WeTransfer add-on? | 13:00 |
| ricotz | personally I would not want to have it by default | 13:01 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, it's on by default in the upstream builds, so it kinda makes sense | 13:02 |
| oSoMoN | but you have to explicitly opt-in to use it in the settings | 13:02 |
| oSoMoN | so I think it's a fine balance | 13:02 |
| ricotz | hmm, I tend to disable things which I don't use, but I see | 13:03 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: thanks | 13:10 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers! | 13:27 |
| marcustomlinson | hey hellsworth | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | Hello desktopers, meeting time! | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-10-22 | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Oct 22 13:30:23 2019 UTC. The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 13:30 |
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| kenvandine | Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), hellsworth, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out) , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 13:30 |
| marcustomlinson | o/ | 13:30 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 13:30 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 13:30 |
| hellsworth | \o | 13:30 |
| didrocks | o/ | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | let's get started | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | we don't have rls-ff tracking reports yet, so we can skip those :) | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | #topic rls-ee-bugs | 13:33 |
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| kenvandine | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | anyone with opinions on bug 1845801 | 13:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1845801 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Automatic login fails and then all subsequent logins fail. Killing gnome-session-binary fixes it, or just not using automatic login." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845801 | 13:34 |
| kenvandine | sounds like it causes pain, but probably a corner case | 13:36 |
| didrocks | I didn't have autologin issues when doing iso testing, I think Laney would know about the session handling maybe? | 13:37 |
| didrocks | I'm wondering about the "do-release-upgrade" was rocky | 13:37 |
| didrocks | so maybe a consequence? | 13:37 |
| didrocks | I think duflu started engaging with them and added to the list, maybe he should continue following up? | 13:38 |
| Laney | I can try it, I have an nvidia machine | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | Laney: great | 13:38 |
| Laney | it should be accepted if it's a real bug | 13:38 |
| Laney | if i can't make it happen, will need to hand it off though | 13:38 |
| didrocks | agreed | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | the other incoming bug has been reported upstream | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | duflu assigned it to himself | 13:41 |
| Laney | link it? | 13:41 |
| kenvandine | bug 1849135 | 13:41 |
| ubot5 | bug 1849135 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Clicking Activities in the corner doesn't work in Xorg sessions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849135 | 13:41 |
| kenvandine | sorry :) | 13:42 |
| Laney | thx | 13:42 |
| Laney | so one pixel doesn't work for clicking | 13:42 |
| Laney | -1 for tracking imho | 13:42 |
| kenvandine | agreed | 13:42 |
| didrocks | -1 as well | 13:42 |
| kenvandine | #topic rls-dd-bugs | 13:42 |
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| seb128 | (it's the one pixel you end up if you throw your mouse to the corner I think) | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128! | 13:43 |
| seb128 | hey | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | nothing for us in rls-dd-incoming | 13:44 |
| seb128 | (anyway, -1 is probably fine, there has been only one report so far) | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | looks like duflu is looking into it anyways and he initially reported it upstream | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | everything under rls-dd-tracking looks fine. All either assigned or fix committed | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | #topic rls-bb-bugs | 13:46 |
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| kenvandine | nothing incoming for us | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | and everything tracking looks fine | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 13:48 |
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| Laney | not open yet | 13:48 |
| Laney | come back next week :> | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | :) | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | yay | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | #topic aob | 13:49 |
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| kenvandine | One thing from me... Great release everyone! | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | lots of positive press, loving it | 13:49 |
| didrocks | yeah \o/ | 13:49 |
| hellsworth | woo! | 13:50 |
| seb128 | indeed, well done team, great release! | 13:50 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 13:50 |
| kenvandine | and another note... sadly willcooke's last week | 13:50 |
| marcustomlinson | :,( | 13:51 |
| oSoMoN | you'll be missed willcooke | 13:51 |
| didrocks | let's wish him the best for his next endover :) | 13:51 |
| hellsworth | i wish you all the best willcooke | 13:51 |
| kenvandine | just wish i could buy him another beer :) | 13:51 |
| tkamppeter | Lots of people are helping us that it will go on in the future: | 13:52 |
| tkamppeter | https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KWZTTXxB7nDCFtYIC6aUF36zN0lv0T7I | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | seb128: i hope you are buying drinks tonight :) | 13:52 |
| marcustomlinson | best of luck willcooke | 13:52 |
| tkamppeter | all the best, willcooke! | 13:53 |
| kenvandine | tkamppeter: where are those pictures from? | 13:53 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sure, you should come :) | 13:53 |
| tkamppeter | kenvandine, GSoC Mentor Summit this weekend. | 13:53 |
| kenvandine | oh... right there in the folder name :) | 13:54 |
| tkamppeter | These people have mentored students, so that we get new great people into free software community. | 13:54 |
| tkamppeter | I am the one in the white OpenPrinting t-shirt in the middle. | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | ok, last call for other business? | 13:55 |
| Laney | yes | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | tkamppeter: nicely placed, right in the middle | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | :) | 13:55 |
| tkamppeter | In the video in the end you see that it is shot with a drone. | 13:56 |
| Laney | kenvandine: can you pls own fixing https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447954589/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz in one way or another? | 13:56 |
| Laney | Wimpress and seb128 were looking into it | 13:56 |
| Laney | but not sure anyone got very far | 13:56 |
| kenvandine | sure | 13:56 |
| hellsworth | what is that a build log of? | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | focal image | 13:57 |
| seb128 | Martin though it was lack of stable/ubuntu-20.04 tracks enabling | 13:57 |
| Laney | yes, it's not that though | 13:57 |
| seb128 | but Laney is pretty sure it's not | 13:57 |
| seb128 | we didn't poke further | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | it's definately not | 13:57 |
| seb128 | so kenvandine is welcome to look :) | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | i'll talk to mvo | 13:58 |
| Laney | thx | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | it downloaded both of those snaps | 13:58 |
| Laney | it worked yesterday | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | Laney: is there a bug to track this? | 13:58 |
| Laney | no | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | oh interesting | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | Laney, seb128: I'll chase it down | 13:59 |
| kenvandine | any more business? | 13:59 |
| kenvandine | Laney: can you dig up a build log from yesterday's image? | 13:59 |
| kenvandine | let's wrap up and save that for after the meeting | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Oct 22 14:00:49 2019 UTC. | 14:00 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-10-22-13.30.moin.txt | 14:00 |
| marcustomlinson | thx | 14:01 |
| Laney | the index is here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/ubuntu/ | 14:02 |
| didrocks | thx | 14:02 |
| willcooke | thanks for the well wishes all. | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | Laney: thanks | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | mvo: can you help look at seed validation issues in focal image builds? | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | there is a newer revision of the calculator snap since the last successful image build | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | but it connects to the same content provider | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | which it thinks is missing | 14:13 |
| mvo | kenvandine: looking, what snapd version is used? | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | 2.41+19.10.1 | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | same version that succeeded | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | build failed https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447954589/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | last success https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447812945/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | which was yesterday | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | there are newer revisions of gnome-calculator and gnome-characters today | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | gnome-calculator is what's failing | 14:16 |
| mvo | kenvandine: gnome-calculator from edge? | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | but those default providers are the same and the revisions for those haven't changed | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | stable | 14:16 |
| mvo | kenvandine: ok | 14:16 |
| mvo | kenvandine: indeed, strange | 14:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, mvo, did the discussion stopped or moved to some other channel? | 15:48 |
| mvo | seb128: I started looking but have no idea right now | 15:48 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you know how the glib/autopkgtest failure from the week before release resolved itself? | 15:48 |
| mvo | seb128: I'm asking in the team before I digg deeper | 15:48 |
| seb128 | mvo, k, thx | 15:49 |
| Laney | it worked after a retry | 15:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, I mean do you have any idea where the issue was coming from? | 15:51 |
| seb128 | it was not a simple retry, retries failed consistently for a while (see http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/glib2.0/eoan/i386) | 15:51 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm asking because I opened an upstream issue and I would like to follow up/close with something better than 'it automagically stopped failing no idea why/what changed' | 15:52 |
| Laney | no, I tried it locally and it worked, then I tried it on scalingstack manually and it worked, then I retried from autopkgtest and it worked | 15:54 |
| Laney | if I have to guess it's some shit to do with removing the i386 kernel | 15:54 |
| seb128 | I though it might be but I don't understand how it autoresolved then | 16:02 |
| seb128 | oh well... | 16:02 |
| Laney | yeah | 16:04 |
| Laney | just couldn't get to a broken situation to have a look at all | 16:04 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk | ||
| seb128 | jamesh, kenvandine, I see that error coming back in journal log from random bugs, | 16:19 |
| seb128 | xdg-desktop-por[2912]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: App introspection not allowed | 16:19 |
| seb128 | is that a known issue/something we should look at? | 16:19 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, the rls post on discourse, you updated the status of the first bug assigned to you (thanks!) but there are some others bellow :) | 16:56 |
| Trevinho | seb128: my ctrl-f only was finding that :o | 16:57 |
| Trevinho | ah, actually... damn I thought it was mentioned in each name | 16:58 |
| Trevinho | in each bug, the na,e | 16:58 |
| Trevinho | name* | 16:58 |
| seb128 | :-) | 17:08 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: FYI https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/gnome-3-34-1804 | 17:47 |
| kenvandine | i had it built a couple of hours ago | 17:47 |
| kenvandine | it's in edge | 17:47 |
| hellsworth | oh nice! | 17:51 |
| hellsworth | thank you, kenvandine. i built it this morning to make sure it built ok with the new build snap changes and i guess i should have asked you to launch a proper build to get it into edge. | 17:52 |
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