[01:34] <pieq> duflu, hi! I'm reviewing the bugs I opened during 19.10 beta testing. Regarding this: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1736, do you know what's the GNOME process usually? Do they leave all the bugs unassigned until it's taken by someone?
[01:35]  * duflu looks
[01:35] <duflu> pieq, yes exactly as you said
[01:36] <pieq> duflu, ok, thanks!
[01:36] <duflu> It's not affecting enough people for a developer to want to own it yet I guess
[01:52] <pieq> duflu, yeah I can imagine.
[01:53] <duflu> Made harder by the fact your dev machine would need a touchscreen... I wonder can you trigger it without one?
[01:53] <pieq> duflu, even though, it's a bit ironic in a way. The "curtain" you have to lift to unlock your desktop in GNOME3 is here because of the touchscreen (cause using a mouse to lift it is really a pain)
[01:53] <pieq> so I assumed they would be more proactive regarding touchscreen issues... but well.
[01:54] <pieq> duflu, I don't know how the OSK is triggered. I know you cannot click on the keys with the mouse, so I don't think it could be used at all without a touch screen
[01:55] <duflu> Well, if I was writing it I would make sure it was debuggable with a mouse *shrug*
[02:01] <pieq> :)
[05:40] <duflu> Morning mvo. The PulseAudio people would like some feedback (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/issues/749)
[05:41] <mvo> duflu: aha, right. yes, will do. I provided most logs already but not a debug log yet
[05:41] <duflu> Thanks. I don't have working HDMI audio handy myself
[05:43] <duflu> Though my DisplayPorts offer the HDMI audio sink, they don't trigger the bug
[06:19] <didrocks> good morning
[06:52] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:56] <Wimpress> Morning o/
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[07:06] <oSoMoN> morning Wimpress
[07:10] <duflu> Morning didrocks, oSoMoN and Wimpress
[07:12] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:12] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:17] <didrocks> hey duflu, oSoMoN, Wimpress
[07:30] <Wimpress> didrocks jibel JIm Salter talks about Ubuntu 19.10 and ZFS on root in the Techsnap Podcast episode 414.
[07:30] <Wimpress> https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/136002/rooting-for-zfs-techsnap-414/
[07:30] <Wimpress> ZFS discussion starts at 21m 20s
[07:30] <didrocks> Wimpress: thanks! I'll listen to it during my daily exercise :)
[07:33] <ackk> hi, I installed 19.10 a couple of days ago, nightlight doesn't seem to work anymore. how can I debug the issue?
[07:36] <duflu> ackk, just subscribe to bug 1847551 :)
[07:36] <ubot5> bug 1847551 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Mutter 3.34.1 broke Night Light, screen color profiles" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847551
[07:38] <ackk> oh, I did search for night light, didn't find it
[07:38] <ackk> thanks
[07:40] <duflu> Yeah I usually think unresolved mutter bugs should have gnome-shell tasks so people can find them and save time/duplication
[07:41] <duflu> But since a fix already exists for mutter it might cause confusion if people think I'm suggesting fixing gnome-shell instead
[08:03] <Laney> hi!
[08:09] <oSoMoN> hi Laney
[08:12] <Laney> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey oSoMoN
[08:13] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:16] <Laney> YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DUFLU
[08:17]  * duflu falls off chair
[08:17] <Laney> damn it, now I have to do that for everyone to be fair
[08:22] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447949360/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz
[08:22] <Laney> what
[08:23] <duflu> exit 1
[08:39] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[08:39] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson
[08:39] <pieq> duflu, regarding LP #1847551, is there a fix planned to land soon in Ubuntu? I just noticed the exact same issue while testing Wayland on a device we have here
[08:39] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1847551 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Mutter 3.34.1 broke Night Light, screen color profiles" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847551
[08:40] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[08:41] <duflu> pieq, it looks like we're waiting on upstream to complete a mutter 3.34.2 release. Unless someone wants to package a fix quicker
[08:42] <pieq> duflu, got it
[08:42] <duflu> It looks relatively big already, so hopefully soon
[08:42] <duflu> Laney would know
[08:45] <Laney> https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirtyfive
[08:45] <Laney> Towards the end of November
[08:46] <Laney> HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII MARCUSTOMLINSON
[08:47] <Laney> oSoMoN: do you know if something changed in snapd to make https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447949360/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz happen?
[08:48] <duflu> pieq, Trevinho might want to do a sooner update of 3.34 since he's working on it upstream. Wait till he gets here
[08:48]  * Laney picked you as the most likely person to know in here atm
[08:49] <didrocks> (and not an innocent random victimà
[08:49] <didrocks> )*
[08:50] <oSoMoN> Laney, nope
[08:50] <Laney> :(
[08:50] <pieq> Laney, one month without night light, my eyes are gonna melt.
[08:50] <oSoMoN> Ken would know, I suppose
[08:50] <didrocks> pieq: easy, no screen at nights from now on! :)
[08:50] <duflu> I say ask Marco because generally by the time I prepare a single fix SRU he usually has a multi-fix SRU ready to replace it
[08:51] <pieq> didrocks, you're so healthy...
[08:52] <didrocks> it's rather: do what I say, not what I do :p
[08:55] <duflu> Yes it is the noisiest eoan regression I have seen
[08:55] <duflu> subjectively
[08:57] <Laney> We agreed it wasn't a rls bug for the team, but if someone wanted to propose an upload with the patch and see it through the process, it could still happen.
[08:57] <Laney> mooooooooiiiiinnnnnn didrocks btw
[08:57] <didrocks> heyyyyyyy Laney ;)
[08:58] <Laney> didrocks: did you see the canary image failures? seems the PPA needs a focal package published
[08:59] <didrocks> Laney: well, the image doesn't boot anyway, but let's open the focal archive in the PPA as it's easy enough
[08:59] <Laney> alternative is to drop it from cdimage
[09:00] <didrocks> Laney: we aren't sure yet what will happen, let's wait for the Vancouver's sprint output, until then, I'll just do a dummy small upload, thanks for the ping!
[09:00] <Laney> okey!
[09:14] <duflu> pieq, conclusion: No plan yet. So I might have a go at it before the end of the day
[09:14] <duflu> Which for us is soon
[09:18] <pieq> duflu, cool! Thanks :)
[09:38] <duflu> Oh. I didn't realise it was Wayland only. That would be why it's low priority
[09:39] <duflu> Still the noisiest regression though
[09:51] <seb128> goood morning desktopers (from London today!)
[09:51] <marcustomlinson> hey seb128
[09:51] <seb128> Laney, thx for relaying that canary image ping from yesterday evening to didrocks :)
[09:51] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson , how are you?
[09:51] <Trevinho> seb128: hi,
[09:51] <Laney> hi seb128
[09:51] <Laney> didn't see any ping
[09:51] <Laney> just failure emails
[09:51] <seb128> ah ok, infinit_y asked on the channel in the evening about it
[09:52] <duflu> Morning seb128 and Trevinho
[09:52] <marcustomlinson> seb128: tired :P I woke up at 5 this morning, drove 50miles to accept a delivery at my parents house, and 50 back in time for work
[09:52] <seb128> marcustomlinson, urg :(
[09:52] <seb128> hey duflu, bonjourno Trevinho
[09:52] <marcustomlinson> seb128: yourself? :)
[09:52] <Wimpress> seb128: o/
[09:53] <Wimpress> I'm sat at a hot desktop by the turing space :-)
[09:53] <seb128> Laney, the snap issue you pinged Olivier about, could it be because we didn't open the stable/ubuntu-20 track for them yet?
[09:55] <Trevinho> there are probably already few fixes that are sru material on shell / mutter, i will get few cherry picks ready (assuming .2 is not coming soon)
[09:56] <Laney> seb128: no, that fails in a much more obvious way
[09:58] <Laney> try like "snap download --channel=stable/ubuntu-20.04 gtk-common-themes" (it works)
[10:00] <seb128> we are looking at it with W_impress
[10:02] <seb128> Laney, do you know what command is returning the 'error: cannot validate seed:'?
[10:02] <seb128> is that the check you added not long ago?
[10:02] <Laney> snap debug validate-seed or something
[10:03] <ricotz> hey desktopers :)
[10:03] <ricotz> I am curious about https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk/commit/3a906fe2ce99ec58f4327c25635d42aa1a1700ad#note_630137
[10:03] <Laney> yeah, that's right
[10:04] <seb128> Laney, Martin thinks the 20.04 track is missing and that install just fallback silently, refresh gives you an error
[10:05] <seb128> when you try to refresh with the stable/ubuntu....
[10:06] <Laney> why did we get builds previously then? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/ubuntu/
[10:08] <seb128> is the channel/track to use set somewhere and was just updated?
[10:08] <seb128> or maybe you are right and it's not the issue
[10:10] <Laney> it's computed by livecd-rootfs
[10:10] <Laney> local CHANNEL=${3:-"stable/ubuntu-$(release_ver)"}
[10:11] <Laney> and you can see it passed to snap-tool in the build log
[10:11] <Laney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MtnTWyxKBH/
[10:11] <Laney> channel is there
[10:12] <seb128> Wimpress, ^
[10:15] <seb128> (we are also in a meeting so looking on the side)
[10:22] <Laney> Trevinho: just SRU a snapshot imho if you're looking at doing lots of picks
[10:29] <Laney> oho, jbicha just said same on #debian-gnome :>
[10:29] <jbicha> good morning
[10:30] <Laney> o/
[10:38] <Wimpress> seb128: https://github.com/intel/dptf
[10:40] <seb128> Wimpress, thx
[10:41] <Wimpress> dptfxtract is in the archive too.
[10:43] <ricotz> seb128, hi :)
[10:45] <ricotz> seb128, I am hoping you will have time for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/1803136
[10:45] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1803136 in vala (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Update to vala 0.40.17 in bionic" [Low,Confirmed]
[10:48] <seb128> ricotz, hey, thx for the reminder, I will try to have a look today
[10:48] <clobrano> morning all 0/
[10:49] <clobrano> if any of you preferred the dark gnome shell, now it can be changed :)  https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/1578
[10:49] <ricotz> seb128, that would be great, thanks!
[10:51] <seb128> ricotz, k, just did it since it was easy enough :)
[10:52] <seb128> hey clobrano , how are you?
[10:52] <seb128> clobrano, nice one! :-)
[10:52] <clobrano> hey seb128, I'm fine, yourself?
[10:54] <seb128> I'm good, in London today and tomorrow for some meetings and next cycle desktop plans reviews
[11:06] <ricotz> seb128, oh, so you will upload it?
[11:07] <seb128> ricotz, it's uploaded now, needs SRU team review next
[11:07] <ricotz> great!
[11:30] <seb128> oSoMoN, I commented on bug #1849162 , one reason we didn't do it at the same is that we already have a calendar preinstalled (gnome-calendar)
[11:30] <ubot5> bug 1849162 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Lightning extension should be installed and enabled by default" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849162
[11:30] <seb128> we can have the discussion on how they would overlap, but we should talk about it before adding it imho
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[11:37] <ricotz> seb128, sorry, could you point me to the uploaded package for me to follow? I would have expected it here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=1
[11:42] <seb128> ricotz, sorry, I signed up with my Debian key, reuploading
[11:42] <ricotz> ok
[11:49] <ricotz> \o/
[11:51] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, well I would love to snapshot, if it wasn't that I hate to make them.... In the sense that making it + pristine tar and stuff is a waste of time, or am I doing it wrong?
[11:51] <Laney> ninja dist?
[11:52] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, plus creating a fake tag, plus import, push three branches...
[11:53] <Trevinho> but ideally I had just few commits in mind, but let me see
[11:53] <Laney> what fake tag?
[11:53] <Laney> think you are exaggerating just a little bit
[12:00] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1633319
[12:00] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1633319 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "memory leak in indicator-datetime" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:00] <Wimpress> seb128: That is the bug I mentioned. Tagged as requested.
[12:05] <Trevinho> Laney: well we need a 3.34+git34568790 tag to make gbp happy to import it, no?
[12:05] <Trevinho> well, .1..
[12:06] <Trevinho> anyways, I think i've to follow that rood
[12:06] <Trevinho> road*
[12:15] <didrocks> Wimpress: quite impressed about the Techsnap review, indeed. Accurate and deep dive :)
[12:17] <seb128> Wimpress, thx
[12:27] <Laney> Trevinho: sorry was looking into some ppc64el weirdness
[12:27] <Trevinho> Laney: np
[12:27] <Laney> it's ninja dist; gbp import-orig --upstream-vcs-tag=<the commit you disted at>
[12:27] <Laney> https://salsa.debian.org/laney/mutter did it there for you
[12:28] <Laney> enjoy
[12:28] <seb128> Trevinho, I got that weird bug with the lockscreen being displayed over the session but not really
[12:29] <Trevinho> seb128: mh, still in your slow machine right?
[12:29] <seb128> same as the other day, screen autolocked on idle and and immediatly moved the mouse because I didn't want to have it locking
[12:29] <seb128> yes
[12:29] <seb128> looks like it's an issue when you try to prevent the locking by an action when it already kicked in
[12:30] <Trevinho> seb128: so like stopping the idle..
[12:30] <seb128> yeah
[12:30] <Trevinho> seb128: try playing with gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay 1
[12:30] <Trevinho> (i'm also doing it)
[12:40] <seb128> Trevinho, so yeah, trivial to trigger here
[12:40] <oSoMoN> seb128, re-lightning, that makes sense, I wasn't aware of the rationale
[12:41] <Trevinho> seb128: ouch, I can't instead... mhmh, indeed some racing issue, can you give me access there via tmate?
[12:41] <Trevinho> once in broken state
[12:41] <oSoMoN> that doesn't prevent me from bundling lightning into the main thunderbird package, but maybe not enabled by default? that would be a good first step in the right direction
[12:41] <Trevinho> well, just before either
[12:42] <seb128> Trevinho, I'm in between meeting in the office, I will probably do that once I'm back, no hurry
[12:42] <Trevinho> or if you don't want to install tmate in snap there's something similar... can't remember the name though
[12:42] <Trevinho> sure
[12:42] <seb128> oSoMoN, yeah, I think it's fine
[12:43] <Trevinho> willcooke: do you remember the name of that? ^
[12:43] <willcooke> reading
[12:44] <willcooke> what was that for?
[12:45] <willcooke> ohh
[12:45] <willcooke> erm
[12:45] <seb128> oSoMoN, adding it isn't going to add a new .desktop right? like looking in the overview for calendar would not list it?
[12:46] <willcooke> teleconsole
[12:46] <willcooke> Trevinho, seb128 ^
[12:46] <oSoMoN> seb128, nope
[12:47] <oSoMoN> lightning is a pure thunderbird extension, it's installed as a packed xpi file in /usr/lib/thunderbird-addons/extensions/, so no desktop files
[12:49] <seb128> k, good
[12:59] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi, did you noticed localizations issues in thunderbird, exspecially names of default folders?
[13:00] <oSoMoN> ricotz, yeah, that's a known bug, let me look up the number
[13:00] <oSoMoN> bug #1847772
[13:00] <ricotz> oSoMoN, ah, good
[13:00] <ubot5> bug 1847772 in Mozilla Thunderbird "E-mail folder names are not localized in thunderbird 68" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847772
[13:00] <ricotz> oSoMoN, any concerns about this WeTransfer add-on?
[13:01] <ricotz> personally I would not want to have it by default
[13:02] <oSoMoN> ricotz, it's on by default in the upstream builds, so it kinda makes sense
[13:02] <oSoMoN> but you have to explicitly opt-in to use it in the settings
[13:02] <oSoMoN> so I think it's a fine balance
[13:03] <ricotz> hmm, I tend to disable things which I don't use, but I see
[13:10] <Trevinho> willcooke: thanks
[13:27] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers!
[13:28] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[13:30] <kenvandine> Hello desktopers, meeting time!
[13:30] <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-10-22
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 22 13:30:23 2019 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:30] <kenvandine> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), hellsworth, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out) , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:30] <marcustomlinson> o/
[13:30] <Trevinho> o/
[13:30] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:30] <hellsworth> \o
[13:32] <didrocks> o/
[13:32] <kenvandine> let's get started
[13:33] <kenvandine> we don't have rls-ff tracking reports yet, so we can skip those :)
[13:33] <kenvandine> #topic rls-ee-bugs
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[13:33] <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:34] <kenvandine> anyone with opinions on bug 1845801
[13:34] <ubot5> bug 1845801 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Automatic login fails and then all subsequent logins fail. Killing gnome-session-binary fixes it, or just not using automatic login." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845801
[13:36] <kenvandine> sounds like it causes pain, but probably a corner case
[13:37] <didrocks> I didn't have autologin issues when doing iso testing, I think Laney would know about the session handling maybe?
[13:37] <didrocks> I'm wondering about the "do-release-upgrade" was rocky
[13:37] <didrocks> so maybe a consequence?
[13:38] <didrocks> I think duflu started engaging with them and added to the list, maybe he should continue following up?
[13:38] <Laney> I can try it, I have an nvidia machine
[13:38] <kenvandine> Laney: great
[13:38] <Laney> it should be accepted if it's a real bug
[13:38] <Laney> if i can't make it happen, will need to hand it off though
[13:38] <didrocks> agreed
[13:40] <kenvandine> the other incoming bug has been reported upstream
[13:41] <kenvandine> duflu assigned it to himself
[13:41] <Laney> link it?
[13:41] <kenvandine> bug 1849135
[13:41] <ubot5> bug 1849135 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Clicking Activities in the corner doesn't work in Xorg sessions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849135
[13:42] <kenvandine> sorry :)
[13:42] <Laney> thx
[13:42] <Laney> so one pixel doesn't work for clicking
[13:42] <Laney> -1 for tracking imho
[13:42] <kenvandine> agreed
[13:42] <didrocks> -1 as well
[13:42] <kenvandine> #topic rls-dd-bugs
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[13:43] <seb128> (it's the one pixel you end up if you throw your mouse to the corner I think)
[13:43] <kenvandine> hey seb128!
[13:43] <seb128> hey
[13:44] <kenvandine> nothing for us in rls-dd-incoming
[13:44] <seb128> (anyway, -1 is probably fine, there has been only one report so far)
[13:44] <kenvandine> looks like duflu is looking into it anyways and he initially reported it upstream
[13:46] <kenvandine> everything under rls-dd-tracking looks fine.  All either assigned or fix committed
[13:46] <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-bugs
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[13:47] <kenvandine> nothing incoming for us
[13:48] <kenvandine> and everything tracking looks fine
[13:48] <kenvandine> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
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[13:48] <Laney> not open yet
[13:48] <Laney> come back next week :>
[13:49] <kenvandine> :)
[13:49] <kenvandine> yay
[13:49] <kenvandine> #topic aob
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[13:49] <kenvandine> One thing from me... Great release everyone!
[13:49] <kenvandine> lots of positive press, loving it
[13:49] <didrocks> yeah \o/
[13:50] <hellsworth> woo!
[13:50] <seb128> indeed, well done team, great release!
[13:50] <marcustomlinson> :)
[13:50] <kenvandine> and another note... sadly willcooke's last week
[13:51] <marcustomlinson> :,(
[13:51] <oSoMoN> you'll be missed willcooke
[13:51] <didrocks> let's wish him the best for his next endover :)
[13:51] <hellsworth> i wish you all the best willcooke
[13:51] <kenvandine> just wish i could buy him another beer :)
[13:52] <tkamppeter> Lots of people are helping us that it will go on in the future:
[13:52] <tkamppeter> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KWZTTXxB7nDCFtYIC6aUF36zN0lv0T7I
[13:52] <kenvandine> seb128: i hope you are buying drinks tonight :)
[13:52] <marcustomlinson> best of luck willcooke
[13:53] <tkamppeter> all the best, willcooke!
[13:53] <kenvandine> tkamppeter: where are those pictures from?
[13:53] <seb128> kenvandine, sure, you should come :)
[13:53] <tkamppeter> kenvandine, GSoC Mentor Summit this weekend.
[13:54] <kenvandine> oh... right there in the folder name :)
[13:54] <tkamppeter> These people have mentored students, so that we get new great people into free software community.
[13:55] <tkamppeter> I am the one in the white OpenPrinting t-shirt in the middle.
[13:55] <kenvandine> ok, last call for other business?
[13:55] <Laney> yes
[13:55] <kenvandine> tkamppeter: nicely placed, right in the middle
[13:55] <kenvandine> :)
[13:56] <tkamppeter> In the video in the end you see that it is shot with a drone.
[13:56] <Laney> kenvandine: can you pls own fixing https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447954589/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz in one way or another?
[13:56] <Laney> Wimpress and seb128 were looking into it
[13:56] <Laney> but not sure anyone got very far
[13:56] <kenvandine> sure
[13:57] <hellsworth> what is that a build log of?
[13:57] <kenvandine> focal image
[13:57] <seb128> Martin though it was lack of stable/ubuntu-20.04 tracks enabling
[13:57] <Laney> yes, it's not that though
[13:57] <seb128> but Laney is pretty sure it's not
[13:57] <seb128> we didn't poke further
[13:57] <kenvandine> it's definately not
[13:58] <seb128> so kenvandine is welcome to look :)
[13:58] <kenvandine> i'll talk to mvo
[13:58] <Laney> thx
[13:58] <kenvandine> it downloaded both of those snaps
[13:58] <Laney> it worked yesterday
[13:58] <kenvandine> Laney: is there a bug to track this?
[13:58] <Laney> no
[13:58] <kenvandine> oh interesting
[13:59] <kenvandine> Laney, seb128: I'll chase it down
[13:59] <kenvandine> any more business?
[13:59] <kenvandine> Laney: can you dig up a build log from yesterday's image?
[14:00] <kenvandine> let's wrap up and save that for after the meeting
[14:00] <kenvandine> #endmeeting
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[14:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 22 14:00:49 2019 UTC.
[14:00] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-10-22-13.30.moin.txt
[14:01] <marcustomlinson> thx
[14:02] <Laney> the index is here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/ubuntu/
[14:02] <didrocks> thx
[14:02] <willcooke> thanks for the well wishes all.
[14:07] <kenvandine> Laney: thanks
[14:11] <kenvandine> mvo: can you help look at seed validation issues in focal image builds?
[14:13] <kenvandine> there is a newer revision of the calculator snap since the last successful image build
[14:13] <kenvandine> but it connects to the same content provider
[14:13] <kenvandine> which it thinks is missing
[14:14] <mvo> kenvandine: looking, what snapd version is used?
[14:15] <kenvandine> 2.41+19.10.1
[14:15] <kenvandine> same version that succeeded
[14:15] <kenvandine> build failed https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447954589/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:15] <kenvandine> last success https://launchpadlibrarian.net/447812945/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:16] <kenvandine> which was yesterday
[14:16] <kenvandine> there are newer revisions of gnome-calculator and gnome-characters today
[14:16] <kenvandine> gnome-calculator is what's failing
[14:16] <mvo> kenvandine: gnome-calculator from edge?
[14:16] <kenvandine> but those default providers are the same and the revisions for those haven't changed
[14:16] <kenvandine> stable
[14:16] <mvo> kenvandine: ok
[14:16] <mvo> kenvandine: indeed, strange
[15:48] <seb128> kenvandine, mvo, did the discussion stopped or moved to some other channel?
[15:48] <mvo> seb128: I started looking but have no idea right now
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, do you know how the glib/autopkgtest failure from the week before release resolved itself?
[15:48] <mvo> seb128: I'm asking in the team before I digg deeper
[15:49] <seb128> mvo, k, thx
[15:50] <Laney> it worked after a retry
[15:51] <seb128> Laney, I mean do you have any idea where the issue was coming from?
[15:51] <seb128> it was not a simple retry, retries failed consistently for a while (see http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/glib2.0/eoan/i386)
[15:52] <seb128> Laney, I'm asking because I opened an upstream issue and I would like to follow up/close with something better than 'it automagically stopped failing no idea why/what changed'
[15:54] <Laney> no, I tried it locally and it worked, then I tried it on scalingstack manually and it worked, then I retried from autopkgtest and it worked
[15:54] <Laney> if I have to guess it's some shit to do with removing the i386 kernel
[16:02] <seb128> I though it might be but I don't understand how it autoresolved then
[16:02] <seb128> oh well...
[16:04] <Laney> yeah
[16:04] <Laney> just couldn't get to a broken situation to have a look at all
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[16:19] <seb128> jamesh, kenvandine, I see that error coming back in journal log from random bugs,
[16:19] <seb128> xdg-desktop-por[2912]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: App introspection not allowed
[16:19] <seb128> is that a known issue/something we should look at?
[16:56] <seb128> Trevinho, the rls post on discourse, you updated the status of the first bug assigned to you (thanks!) but there are some others bellow :)
[16:57] <Trevinho> seb128: my ctrl-f only was finding that :o
[16:58] <Trevinho> ah, actually... damn I thought it was mentioned in each name
[16:58] <Trevinho> in each bug, the na,e
[16:58] <Trevinho> name*
[17:08] <seb128> :-)
[17:47] <kenvandine> hellsworth: FYI https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/gnome-3-34-1804
[17:47] <kenvandine> i had it built a couple of hours ago
[17:47] <kenvandine> it's in edge
[17:51] <hellsworth> oh nice!
[17:52] <hellsworth> thank you, kenvandine. i built it this morning to make sure it built ok with the new build snap changes and i guess i should have asked you to launch a proper build to get it into edge.