[01:23] <bkurt78> Is there a channel specific to the rapsberry pi image or is this the propper place to ask questions?
[01:25] <sarnold> I'm not aware of any better place to ask
[01:26] <bkurt78> sarnold:  Thanks.
[01:27] <bkurt78> I got my pi 4 up and running with the 32 bit 19.10 image.  However, I don't see the zfs module or zfs user space tools.  Do those need to be installed or are they not available on arm?
[01:28] <Milkshake> bkurt78: there's ##hardware
[01:29] <sarnold> bkurt78: I see armhf packages https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/0.8.1-1ubuntu15/+build/17934247
[01:30] <sarnold> bkurt78: hopefully it's just apt install zfsutils-linux && modprobe zfs
[01:31] <bkurt78> sarnold:  I will give that a shot.  Maybe its just not on the base image, which probably makes some sense.
[01:41] <bindi> Milkshake: ##hardware is totally not the right place to ask about zfs and ubuntu
[01:42] <bkurt78> bindi:  Yeah I just found that out.  They are tearing into me for asking.
[01:42] <Milkshake> yeah sorry thought its soemthing to do with the rasp pi he has. lol my bad
[01:44] <Disconsented> Totally not the right place to not answer anyone's questions about that
[01:48] <Gusj>  Hello, I have Xubuntu 18.04 LTS installed and I am looking for the 'Devices' in settings in order to change the color profile, but I am missing Devices is there another way to change color profile by default or do I have to install app?
[02:01] <k_sze> When updating the kernel, I get messages like "dpkg: warning: while removing linux-modules-5.0.0-29-generic, directory '/lib/modules/5.0.0-29-generic' not empty so not removed". What's the proper way to clean that up?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> k_sze: That warning was only temporary while work is in progress. ' ls -al /lib/modules/ ' will confirm that directory no longer exists.
[02:09] <k_sze> Bashing-om, actually, yeah, it seems that apt not automatically cleans that up. I still see lots of directories for some much older kernel versions though.
[02:10] <k_sze> s/apt not/apt now/
[02:10] <k_sze> brb
[02:12] <Bashing-om> k_sze: So long as images exist in /boot/ there will be correspnding modules in /lib/. ' dpkg -l  | grep linux- ' to see all lernels installed.
[02:13] <Bashing-om> k_sze: So long as images exist in /boot/ there will be correspnding modules in /lib/. ' dpkg -l  | grep linux- ' to see all lernels installed.
[02:14] <Bashing-om> kernels*
[02:14] <johnjbogle1> Hello. I asked this question previously, but I didn't understand the response. I have 2 laptops. Mine and my gf's. Both have Ubuntu. Mine is giving me hella problems but that's another issue I'm working at resolving. My gf's laptop works fine, but even hers is displaying an error when trying to open Software Boutique: "Sorry, Ubuntu MATE Welcome is not currently supported on your distribution. We will soon be releasing a new version of Welcome
[02:14] <johnjbogle1> that will support more distributions."
[02:16] <johnjbogle1> Is this a problem with Software Boutique, or with our machines? How would I remedy such an issue? -TIA.
[02:17] <sarnold> johnjbogle1: you may have to ask whoever wrote that "welcome" application
[02:18] <johnjbogle1> It is when I try to open the Software Boutique.
[02:21] <sarnold> johnjbogle1: maybe try in #ubuntu-mate ? maybe someone there knows what the Welcome application is
[02:26] <johnjbogle1> ok thx
[04:01] <Cooler> help
[04:01] <Cooler> $ sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[04:01] <Cooler> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Operation not permitted
[04:12] <Ascavasaion> Cooler: Maybe you do not have sudo privileges.  I don't know.
[04:13] <Cooler> I do
[04:13] <Cooler> Ascavasaion, it is about signing issues
[04:14] <Gusj> Hi, I am running Xubuntu 18.04 LTS have not been able to change color profile, screen is too blueish, have install displaycal with no luck, how can one do this ni 18.04 xfce?
[04:14] <Cooler> I followed this tutorial to sign the module https://era86.github.io/2018/01/24/vagrant-virtualbox-secureboot-in-ubuntu-1604.html
[04:14] <Cooler> but then the kernel changes
[04:14] <Cooler> but then the kernel changed to 31
[04:14] <Cooler> and also they added vbox 6.0 to the ubuntu repos
[04:14] <Cooler> so apt-get updated and everything broke
[04:15] <Cooler> How do I purge everything?
[04:15] <Cooler> related to vbox
[04:16] <Cooler> well maybe ubuntu didn't add vbox 6
[04:17] <Cooler> but the kernel did update
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: maybe the #xubuntu guys know
[04:20] <Cooler> [166493.707618] PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key
[04:24] <Cooler> well I fixed it
[04:24] <Cooler> had to resign the vboxdrv module
[04:24] <Cooler> which is weird to me
[04:24] <Cooler> why do I have to sign it again with the same key as before?
[04:24] <Cooler> It was already signed with that key
[04:26] <Gusj> lotuspsychje, Yes, thank you in there right now
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> welcome Gusj
[04:47] <JadedJ> Hi, I'm looking to share my wifi connection via ethernet using ubuntu on my laptop
[04:51] <ponyrider> thats not possible unless you use a crossover cable and directly link to the machine
[04:52] <JadedJ> Are you talking to me?
[04:52] <ponyrider> yes
[04:52] <JadedJ> I'm plugging the laptop's ethernet port into a switch
[04:53] <ponyrider> ok that would work too lol
[04:53] <ponyrider> but i dont think a router can let that happen
[04:53] <ponyrider> so what you have to do is set up a bridge
[04:54] <ponyrider> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html#bridging
[04:54] <JadedJ> I'm going to attempt to do it using GUI first and if I can get it working, I'll switch to command line only
[04:54] <ponyrider> ok whatever man
[05:09] <JadedJ> If I'm doing a dual boot of ubuntu and xubuntu, do I need to two have swap file volumes?
[05:12] <EriC^^> JadedJ: no
[05:14] <yelof> JadedJ, so long as you do not try to suspend/hibernate both systems at once, or run the other while the first is suspended.  must configure swapon in both systems
[05:19] <sparr> After upgrading to 19.10 early, what should I do to make sure I'm fully up to date after the release?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !final | sparr
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> for 19.10 that is
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> so just keep your system up to date sparr
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate
[05:25] <sparr> I already did a dist-upgrade, so full-upgrade is yielding nothing. Thanks for the info.
[05:25] <sparr> so now on to my real problem :)
[05:28] <sparr> first reboot after upgrade to 19.10 and X won't start. Xorg.0.log says the nvidia module doesn't exist. The nvidia and nvidia_drm and nvidia_modeset kernel modules are loaded, so I'm not sure what it's looking for.
[05:28] <sparr> is there some way to redo the X configuration that was done during the original install?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> sparr: wich chipset of video graphics you have, and wich nvidia driver version?
[05:34] <sparr> have both intel and nvidia graphics, not sure how to be more specific right now
[05:35] <sparr> nvidia packages installed are version 436
[05:35] <sparr> 435, sorry
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> so its an optimus card probably
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | sparr try this to get in your system first
[05:35] <sparr> right now I'd settle for getting either of them working at all, troubleshooting this in console is tough
[05:36] <sparr> manually transcribing URLs into w3m, for example :)
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> sparr: or try to get in grub/recoverymode low graphics
[05:36] <sparr> is there any way I can redo/recreate the X configuration that would come with a fresh install, other than doing a fresh install?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> sparr: editing xorg isnt really needed normally these days, we need to enter your system and install the nvidia drivers probably
[05:39] <sparr> trying to install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-435
[05:39] <sparr> and reconfiguring nvidia-dkms-435
[05:44] <sparr> that got me a little further
[05:44] <sparr> now Xorg.0.log complains about not finding glxserver_nvidia module
[05:45] <sparr> lots of info online suggests I should have a tool `nvidia-xconfig` to produce the configuration but I don't, and I can't figure out what package to install to get it
[05:47] <ayew> https://packages.debian.org/buster/nvidia-xconfig (its depreciated)
[05:47] <sparr> is there soething current that does the same job?
[05:47] <ayew> you need contrib enabled in /etc/hosts
[05:48] <ayew> i mean source.list
[05:48] <ayew> wtf is going on in my head
[05:48] <ayew> sparr: its depreciated in that "Creating an xorg.conf is no longer needed for normal setups." but its still in stable, so no reason not to use if it needed to fix something
[05:48] <sparr> what is used during a fresh install to configure X?
[05:49] <sparr> and where does that configuration live? I expect to have /etc/X11/Xorg.conf but it's not there
[05:49] <sparr> at this point I've spent more time troubleshooting this than a fresh install would have taken, although setting everything up again would be many hours of pain that I'm still hoping to avoid
[05:50] <ayew> /etc/X11/xorg.conf should exist
[05:50] <sparr> it does not
[05:50] <ayew> Xorg -configure inside /etc/X11 should make it
[05:51] <sparr> ... despite `startx` failing, X just magically started working when I switched to virtual console #1
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> sparr: dont use startx, it will get you in trouble
[07:31] <zetheroo> which command is used to install all security updates in Ubuntu 18.04?
[07:33] <EriC^> zetheroo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     upgrades the whole system
[07:33] <yelof> !uptodate
[07:34] <zetheroo> EriC^: I though apt-get wasn't necessary anymore. I have been doing apt upgrade and apt dist-upgrade.
[07:35] <zetheroo> yelof: ok, tks
[07:36] <yelof> zetheroo: apt and apt-get can both be used, they simplified, but most of the get syntax still works
[07:46] <zetheroo> after some reading it seems that the key difference between apt upgrade and apt full-upgrade (the new 'dist-upgrade') is that the former will not remove packages during updating, whereas the latter will. And both commands install kernel updates.
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> ammo: always keep your system up to date
[07:49] <chieta> i have 2 monitors: +*eDP-1(on the right)  and +HDMI-1(on the left) how to set that all application opened on the right one rather than on the left
[07:50] <boktan> if i remove any driver does it removed completely or there is any garbage beghind?
[07:50] <boktan> behind
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> boktan: driver modules on ubuntu dont work the same like on windows
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> boktan: do you have a specific issue?
[07:54] <boktan> im trying to install my wifi adaptor i already did and part of it is working but i want to let it work completely can you help me about that? lotuspsychje
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> boktan: ubuntu version and wifi chipset please?
[07:55] <boktan> 19.10 wifi adaptor alfa-AWUS036ACH [07:56] <lotuspsychje> boktan: did you install drivers manually from anywhere? and hwta do you mean with half-working? whats not working well exactly?
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> *what
[07:56] <boktan> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vn4KzClyCQ0XeMrAGjE7OvEMeBZgg6Xb/view this style was the only one which is working for me
[07:57] <boktan> i did tryed the driver from ubuntu repo but even the light was not blinking on my adaptor
[07:57] <boktan> i cannot create ap cannot get handshake not any wifi tools working etc.
[07:57] <boktan> just can connect to wifi :D
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> boktan: pastebin: lsb_release -a && uname -a
[07:58] <boktan> https://pastebin.com/NqbsYkMJ
[07:59] <boktan> i think there is something wrong on software im sure that my hardware is working
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> boktan: if you mess with git drivers, please seek help at the maintainer of the git
[07:59] <boktan> the driver of the git i installed correct but maybe that one is old im not sure i
[08:00] <boktan> im just sure that the git style is the best style which is working
[08:00] <boktan> but part of it is working if there is another way of course i can do it too but i couldnt find
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> boktan: if your wifi driver doesnt work by default on ubuntu, then its a !bug
[08:01] <boktan> bug on what? on my side or on ubuntu side?
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> boktan: on ubuntu yes, did you try a liveusb 19.10 and see if your wifi is working there?
[08:02] <boktan> no i did not tryed it but usb mode and install mode is general same
[08:02] <Bluerate> hi, I work under ubuntu 16.04, I need to install  18.04 LTS can i install it beside ubuntu 16.04... any help
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> boktan: was your wifi working after ubuntu setup?
[08:02] <boktan> if i install the driver from ubuntu it is installing the tools which i need too automatic right? lotuspsyhje
[08:03] <boktan> after ubuntu setup yes internal wifi works everytime
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> boktan: wifi drivers 'should' work by default on ubuntu
[08:03] <boktan> im using internal wifi on install ubuntu for updating during install
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> boktan: if they were working, why did you install the git drivers?
[08:03] <boktan> i said the internal wifi
[08:03] <boktan> not the usb wifi :/
[08:03] <boktan> usb wifi never works without installing driver
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> boktan: ok, so your external usb wifi has a bu?
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> bug
[08:04] <boktan> yes
[08:04] <boktan> :)
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> file a new !bug boktan
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> boktan: ubuntu-bug linux, then add a title + description
[08:05] <boktan> i dont think it is a new bug everybody haves this problems many people is fixing it on internet but i cannot do it because of my bad english and because of im noob lotuspsychje
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> boktan: if some hardware is not working on an updated system, thats a bug
[08:06] <boktan> can you help me to open the topic? i dont know what to post there
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> boktan: sure, start with: ubuntu-bug linux from terminal
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> boktan: title something like: alfa-AWUS036ACH wifi usb adapter not working by default
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> boktan: do you have a launchpad account?
[08:08] <boktan> i choice other problem
[08:08] <boktan> im now registering to ubuntu one
[08:08] <boktan> i think it is okay huh?
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> yeah make a new launchpad account
[08:09] <boktan> now how to login from my desktop to this account
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> from a browser
[08:10] <boktan> on desktop ubuntu have this option too
[08:10] <boktan> do i not need to login from desktop
[08:10] <boktan> ?
[08:10] <boktan> after install it was coming
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> just login on firefox
[08:12] <boktan> i did loged in on desktop i was thinking it is needed for ubuntu-bug
[08:12] <boktan> should i login on firefox?
[08:12] <boktan> ubuntu-bug is not working something pid error it is giving me
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> boktan: login on launchpad from firefox first, then after you can file your bug via terminal
[08:13] <boktan> ok
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> boktan: did you type: ubuntu-bug linux
[08:13] <boktan> something opened now
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> good
[08:14] <boktan> send no send it says just
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> send bug report
[08:14] <boktan> yeah firefox opened
[08:15] <boktan> but i did not install the driver from the repo
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> boktan: ok, now add a title of your bug and add your story to the bug
[08:15] <boktan> they will i think say me install it and send again bug report right?
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> boktan: you can add that to your story, you tryed to fix with a git
[08:16] <boktan> thank you
[08:16] <boktan> you think how long it will need that they fix it ? is my first experience with reporting there
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> boktan: bug fixing depending on many factors, like how fast you also help testing
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> how many other users also affected
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> if developers know or not..
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> share your bur url after here, we can take a look for you
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> bug
[08:18] <boktan> hmm
[08:19] <boktan> okay im writing now
[08:21] <boktan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1849276
[08:22] <boktan> i hope my english explain the problem good enough :D
[08:22] <BlastuR> hey. installed ubuntu 18 server edition, checked "docker" to be installed from installer. This did not install the standard "docker.io" package, but instead a "snap" package. Now docker runs as root instead of docker. So I can't add myself to the docker group. What can I do?
[08:22] <BlastuR> (if I want to run docker commands as non-root user)
[08:29] <boktan> lotuspsychje can anybody comment to this bug? or just the developpers?
[08:35] <boktan> lotuspsychje it says now confirmed on my topic what means it?
[08:36] <tarzeau> BlastuR: really? hahaha
[08:36] <BlastuR> tarzeau: ?
[08:36] <tarzeau> about the snap and no more group :)
[08:37] <tarzeau> i find that so funny. but from the changelog you should be just able to apt-get install docker.io ?
[08:37] <tarzeau> you used the software manager gui to install software? on ubuntu?
[08:37] <BlastuR> well, yeah. i suppose, but this snap thing seems convenient. i just dont understand how i can use docker inside a snap as a non-root user
[08:37] <tarzeau> i hardly know anyone using that nightmare gui
[08:38] <BlastuR> i  used the cli installer that comes with ubuntu server edition
[08:38] <tarzeau> the hpc guys i know, use singularity
[08:38]  * tarzeau still doesn't get why people want docker..
[08:39] <BlastuR> tarzeau: well, thats an entirely other discussion.
[08:39] <tarzeau> true, care to name your docker software thing you want to run?
[08:40] <BlastuR> it's a in-house development environment
[08:43] <legreffier> BlastuR: dockerd running as root is the expected behavior.
[08:44] <legreffier> you can add yourself to docker group, and control it.
[08:46] <BlastuR> legreffier: well, docker group doesn't even exist when running docker as a snap. but anyway, i tried adding the docker group and added my user to it. did not work. I suppose i have to configure docker to actually use the docker-group too..?
[09:02] <legreffier> BlastuR: i don't know about the snap package :/
[09:08] <cognition> Hi, how to pin the os to a particular kernel?
[09:20] <cognition> If I do "apt-get update"/"apt-get upgrade"/"apt-get dist-upgrade"/"apt-get do-release-upgrade" on a 14.04 system, will I be upgraded to 16.04 or will it take it to 18.04?
[09:22] <Ben64> 14.04
[09:22] <Ben64> apt-get do-release-upgrade isn't a thing
[09:28] <gulzar> I am on 18.04  with the cuda card k20c . I installed cuda10.1 from the nvidia website but it fails to start display.  gdm logsout immedialty on login. startx (after stopping gdm) gives error: fatal error no screens found . the display vga port is on motherboard via intel graphics. What to do?
[09:30] <ns5> Is postfix a must in an Ubuntu server?
[09:31] <tinyhippo> are you sending or receiving emails?
[09:32] <ns5> tinyhippo: no I don't think so.  But sometimes when I ssh to the server, I see "you have mail"...
[09:32] <ns5> is that postfix?
[09:36] <tinyhippo> ns5: not necessarily, it's likely a notification message from a process running on the server
[09:36] <tinyhippo> it'll probably bein /var/mail/<your username>
[09:36] <tinyhippo> or use the `mail` command
[09:37] <ns5> tinyhippo: /var/spool/mail/root, does this have anything to do with postfix?  If I remove postfix, will this /var/spool/mail and 'you have new mail' thing still work?
[09:45] <gulzar> anyone nvidia/cuda issue please
[09:48] <tarzeau> gulzar: works like a champion (using nvidia repo though)
[10:35] <Ilgaz> Guys snap stuck installing digikam, what to do?
[10:38] <tarzeau> remove snap, install apt install digikam
[10:41] <Ilgaz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Dk45M9ttvh/  --> this cycle
[10:43] <Ilgaz> oh found it via man command: sudo snap abort --last=install
[10:43] <Ilgaz> Thanks for help anyway tarzeau
[10:45] <boktan> im trying to install dhcpd but i get "Choosing 'udhcpd' instead of 'dhcpd'" warning
[10:45] <boktan> what should i do
[11:12] <acebrianjuan> Hi
[11:14] <acebrianjuan> I have a program that parses a file and prints decoded data on standard output
[11:14] <gulzar> tarzeau: ok, will try that
[11:15] <acebrianjuan> I would like to redirect the outputs to a port instead of standard output
[11:15] <acebrianjuan> is this possible to do?
[11:17] <acebrianjuan> The output that the program generates are json objects, so that's why I need to redirect them to a network port so that I can read the json stream from another program
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:24] <acebrianjuan> ok, I figured I can do it like this:
[11:24] <acebrianjuan> $ myprogram > /dev/udp/127.0.0.1/1234
[11:53] <Red15> acebrianjuan: yes, but use pipes like this
[11:54] <Red15> $ myprogram | nc -u 127.0.0.1 1234
[11:54] <Red15> nc = netcat; man netcat
[11:55] <Red15> uhmm, well "man nc" works better, think in ubuntu the package is called netcat
[12:20] <acebrianjuan> Red15: thank you for your answer. What are the differences between using netcat and redirecting with (>) ?
[12:21] <acebrianjuan> Red15: both methods achieve the same results
[12:25] <pragmaticenigma> netcat and a ">" redirect are not at all the same thing
[12:26] <acebrianjuan> ok, I'm listening
[12:28] <pragmaticenigma> !alis | acebrianjuan: A discussion like this is off topic for this channel. If you wish to find help on software development topics, please
[12:31] <acebrianjuan> pragmaticenigma: but these are tools we use in Ubuntu! why would this be off topic?
[12:33] <pragmaticenigma> acebrianjuan: Because they're not support related. You are asking for help on developing a program/script/applet. This channel is for helping users setup and troubleshoot Ubuntu as the OS. It is not the place to have a discussion about the merits or personal preferences of what applications to use, or how to use them. For that, there are better channels dedicated for that purpose
[12:34] <oerheks1> i find no good explaination for nc vs >
[12:37] <acebrianjuan> pragmaticenigma: what would be a better channel for discussing this sort of things?
[12:37] <pragmaticenigma> !alis | acebrianjuan: I already sent you this:
[12:40] <acebrianjuan> oerheks1: the only difference that comes to mind is that netcat is a program while > is an opertor, but don't know what implications have each
[12:40] <acebrianjuan> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[12:45] <makara> hi. I'm having trouble mounting a Windows share. It gives "mount error(95): Operation not supported": sudo mount -t cifs -o username=mrsandman,domain=SANDCASTLE,rw //10.10.10.3/Sandbox /mnt/Sandbox
[12:49] <pragmaticenigma> makara: Are you on a corporate domain, or just your home network?
[12:49] <makara> I know the problem isnt with the share - I can mount it fine with file manager
[12:49] <makara> corporate
[12:50] <pragmaticenigma> makara: Does the directory path /mnt/Sandbox exist?
[12:51] <makara> it sure does
[12:53] <TenLeftFingers> tomreyn: re undetected HDMI display on 18.04, I've run journalctl -b again on the GDM3/Gnome setup. https://termbin.com/ehue
[12:53] <TenLeftFingers> I've tried xrandr and arandr also, but they say HDMI is disconnected.
[12:53] <pragmaticenigma> makara: When I mount a windows share, I use the following (replacing items in brackets as appropriate):  sudo mount -t cifs -o username={username} //server.example.com/share/path /media/{username}/{share_name}
[12:54] <pragmaticenigma> makara: That is to say, I don't have a "rw" in my options. I also use the /media/{username} path as it appears to work better for temporary paths.
[12:57] <makara> pragmaticenigma: seems to be a version issue. I got it to work by adding to -o ",vers=1.0"
[13:10] <pragmaticenigma> makara: You might want to send a note to your IT team. SMB protocol version 1.0 is full of vulnerabilities. It currently is marked as deprecated in the SMB libraries in Ubuntu and will be dropped in the future.
[13:12] <Ilgaz> It is an optional install on various new Windows machines. I think it makes Windows less secure too
[13:13] <Ilgaz> BTW Gnome can't manage SMB? It does amazing google drive things which Google just added to official drive (file streaming etc)
[13:14] <Ilgaz> bbl
[13:18] <makara> pragmaticenigma: where can I see the status of the SMB libraries in Ubuntu?
[13:19] <tomreyn> TenLeftFingers: from your log:  Oct 22 13:43:13 A5920G kernel: [drm:radeon_dvi_detect [radeon]] *ERROR* HDMI-A-1: probed a monitor but no|invalid EDID
[13:20] <pragmaticenigma> makara: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/josebda/2015/04/21/the-deprecation-of-smb1-you-should-be-planning-to-get-rid-of-this-old-smb-dialect/
[13:21] <tomreyn> so one of bad cable, monitor (do power off, power on), graphics card (port broken?), firmware, driver
[13:21] <tomreyn> TenLeftFingers: ^
[13:22] <tomreyn> TenLeftFingers: HDMI-0 is fine, though
[13:23] <tomreyn> TenLeftFingers: well, maximum resulution there is 1024x768, so i guess that's a result of the EDID probe failing
[13:23] <tomreyn> it should still work at this resolution, though
[13:29] <TenLeftFingers> tomreyn: Thanks for checking. It's not listed at all in the desktop settings or by xrandr.
[13:29] <TenLeftFingers> I'll look up that error though and see if there's anything that can be done.
[13:54] <kreyren> There is a winetricks logo in ubuntu:  https://i.imgur.com/ewG4Yja.png where is the source of this?
[13:55] <kreyren> seems like ubuntu store?
[13:55] <oerheks1> yes
[13:56] <kreyren> where can i get the logo from it?
[13:59] <oerheks1> Kryptron_, not sure, after install, in .cache/gnome-software/icons ??
[14:07] <ericus> Hi!
[14:08] <ericus> Why am I not able to install third party programs like Steam via the software installer?
[14:08] <ericus> Ubuntu 19.04
[14:08] <ericus> I can click install, but nothing happens
[14:11] <ericus> https://irc.ericus.se/uploads/d1e51ef11a353f80/steam.png
[14:11] <ericus> as so, I can spam install, nothing will happen
[14:12] <rory> the fact that says 0 bytes is concerning, if you go back to the main screen is there some button to update the repositories? or it might do it automatically if you close and open it again.
[14:12] <oerheks1> i think you want steam-installer
[14:12] <oerheks1> !info steam-installer
[14:13] <ericus> I got it from steampowered.com
[14:13] <rory> i guess the question becomes then, is the one in the software center SUPPOSED to work?
[14:13] <rory> is this a known issue or does ericus have a problem
[14:14] <oerheks1> steam-launcher is not the installer?
[14:14] <oerheks1> and 0 bytes, good spot
[14:15] <ericus> https://store.steampowered.com/about/
[14:16] <oerheks1> yes?
[14:18] <ericus> I hit install, Software Install opens and wont let me install
[14:18] <ericus> this also happend with another .deb-file
[14:18] <oerheks1> that package is zero bytes, forget it
[14:19] <ericus> I got it downloaded as well, 2,9 MB
[14:19] <oerheks1> why don't you install the regular package, steam or steam-installer?
[14:20] <ericus> I will, but why am I not able to install other packages?
[14:21] <ericus> I'm on a fresh install of ubuntu
[14:21] <ericus> used to work
[14:21] <oerheks1> for the deb from their site, dunno, not going to find out
[14:22] <bostonmacosx> Morning/Afternoon/Evening
[14:23] <bostonmacosx> Having some issues with SAMBA
[14:45] <compdoc> When I play videos in browsers the volume it often too loud, and the browser wont remember my settings. Is there software that can set the volume to the same level across all programs or browsers?
[14:49] <apatheticsheep> howdy all.  I am using elementaryOS (an ubunut/debian derivative)  I have a laptop with 2 monitors connected.  if I have them screens arrange next to each other, on left<>right edges, windows behave as expected, but if I arrange them with the 2 'secondary' screens on top and the laptop display on the bottom (triangle), then windows on screens 2&3 only maximize to half screen.  elementaryos uses
[14:49] <apatheticsheep> lightdm by default.
[14:49] <apatheticsheep> has anyone seen this before?
[14:50] <oerheks1> no, because we do not support elementary
[14:50] <oerheks1> find their support channel with !alis
[14:51] <apatheticsheep> oerheks1: ok so this doesn't happen in stock ubuntu.  that was really my question
[14:52] <oerheks1> ubuntu ( gnome) used gdm3, so no comparison
[14:53] <apatheticsheep> oerheks1: oh no one uses lithdm on gnome?
[14:53] <apatheticsheep> er ubuntu 1804
[15:01] <bostonmacosx> Hello
[15:01] <bostonmacosx> I'm unable too put files on my SMB mount in differrent caases....
[15:01] <bostonmacosx> I can touch test.txt but when I touch TEST.txt it doesn't write the file
[15:02] <bostonmacosx> I mount it in FSTAB with //XX.XX.XX.XX/LINUXBACKUP /home/mounts/linuxb cifs username=XXX,password=XXX,uid=0,iocharset=utf8,vers=1.0 0 0
[15:06] <DavyH> Hi. I have just upgraded my Thinkpad T540p laptop from 19.04 to 19.10. My laptop no longer boots. Instead of showing a GRUB menu; GRUB waits at the GRUB> command prompt. I'm looking for advice on how to troubleshoot.
[15:06] <DavyH> I am currently running under the 19.04 LiveCD. I've gathered boot-repair diagnostics: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cqnyspdj5b/.
[15:07] <DavyH> Side note: I changed my root filesystem to Btrfs while still on 19.04. I doubt that's relevant here because the system worked and rebooted fine afterwards, and anyway it's all inside a LUKS partition which isn't even accessible at boot. But I mention it in case it could have confused something in the upgrade process.
[15:07] <DavyH> I have homedir backups so I can reinstall, but I'd like to resolve if possible.
[15:07] <DavyH> Advice welcome.
[15:10] <oerheks1> 1. upgrade path is not released yet, and 2. btrfs, interesting
[15:13] <DavyH> "upgrade path is not released yet"? Ahhhh. Then mea culpa: I ran "update-manager -d" without understanding what the "-d" meant. I guess "-d, --devel-release" means "buyer beware"?
[15:14] <oerheks1> well, the releasenotes state that if you cannot wait, the -d option gives 19.10... but we think there should be a warning
[15:14] <DavyH> A warning would have been nice, but I also should have been more careful about what I ran. :)
[15:15] <oerheks1> but btrfs, i have no clue about those issues
[15:22] <courrier> When plugged to a Delock USB-C dockstation, my 18.04 gets the following behaviour every minute: The CPU load goes up to 100% for 5-10 seconds and then returns to normal
[15:22] <courrier> The process consuming CPU is pretty much random, it can be firefox, thunderbird or anything currently active, just like if the CPU was throttled
[15:22] <courrier> "dmesg -w" does not show any information when the issue occurs. Unplugging the dockstation fixes the issue. Any thought about that?
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> courrier: are you sure journalctl -f doesnt give you any output on it?
[15:26] <DavyH> bostonmacosx: pending an answer from an expert (which I am not), does https://serverfault.com/questions/70570/does-samba-work-well-with-windows-when-case-sensitive-names-are-enabled help?
[15:26] <bostonmacosx> I found that alrready
[15:26] <bostonmacosx> been a dead eand
[15:26] <DavyH> Okay, apologies
[15:27] <bostonmacosx> end...I updated the smb.conf with those added cnifg items.. still can't create files with same name but different cassess
[15:27] <bostonmacosx> I think I'm just going to move the backup drive from my router to the PC itself...
[15:27] <bostonmacosx> then tar.gz the backup and send it to google drive.....
[15:27] <bostonmacosx> once a day
[15:29] <courrier> lotuspsychje: let me try. The issue is gonna happen again very soon...
[15:52] <apatheticsheep> oerheks1: /part
[15:52] <apatheticsheep> oops
[15:52] <apatheticsheep> lol
[16:02] <jj5> will Firefox 70 come to Ubuntu 18.04?
[16:02] <oerheks1> jj5, sure
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> jj5: keep your system up to date
[16:02] <jj5> oerheks1: wonderful! do you know when that is likely to happen?
[16:03] <jj5> lotuspsychje: sure will!
[16:03] <oerheks1> normally in a few days, depends on the maintainer
[16:03] <jj5> oerheks1: good to know. thanks!
[16:04] <oerheks1> jj5, you can help test it, https://snapcraft.io/firefox
[16:04] <oerheks1> 'candidate'
[16:05] <oerheks1> official it is released today
[16:06] <jj5> oerheks1: I would be very happy to help test. but when I go to the snapcraft.io URL I get "Bad Gateway" error. https://www.jj5.net/file/2019-10-23-030502/Screenshot_20191023_030448.png
[16:06] <oerheks1> hit f5 ?
[16:07] <oerheks1> your url does not work either
[16:07] <jj5> oerheks1: ah, yep, F5 fixed it. thanks for the heads up my URL isn't working, it's working for me, I will investigate
[16:21] <thnee> What is a good way to prevent a systemd service from running, dynamically at runtime? I know systemd doesnt support any kind of logic itself. So is there some other "official" recommendation?
[16:21] <oerheks1> systemctrl enable/disable (service).service
[16:25] <thnee> oerheks1: No, that's not dynamic at runtime, thats permanent and only at boot time.
[16:39] <gjt343> Hi guys.  Coming from Windows environment and using WSL to run Linux.  Anyone have any tips on where to start?  Im having trouble just creating virtual environments, etc...
[16:40] <thnee> I am thinking of depending on a oneshot, or maybe use an ExecPreStart, that conditionally creates a file, and then add ConditionPathExists. Unless there is a better way?
[16:40] <leftyfb> !wsl | gjt343
[16:41] <leftyfb> thnee: systemd has dependencies. You can make the service fail if a dependency isn't met
[16:42] <thnee> leftyfb: Yeah the question is how
[16:42] <leftyfb> thnee: you read the documentation and/or google. For instance: http://cloudurable.com/blog/systemd-dependencies/index.html  # found by searching google for "systemd unit dependencies"
[16:43] <thnee> Oh, RTFM, classic!
[16:43] <leftyfb> thnee: except I provided you with a link to the answer you're looking for. I RTFM for you.
[16:45] <leftyfb> thnee: but yeah, it's almost as if there are people write documentation so others who don't know how to use or have questions about the thing can learn how to use the thing.
[16:46] <leftyfb> thnee: now, if you're following along with the documentation and articles/tutorials found by research and are still having issues, then feel free to ask for help and provide info on what you have tried and where it is failing
[16:48] <thnee> leftyfb: Thanks, you are my sunshine
[16:50] <Ilgaz> ubottu: I think with the new kernel based wsl, there won't be huge difference anymore
[16:50] <Ilgaz> oops, I mean that windows user
[16:50] <aietos81> good day fine people
[16:52] <aietos81> i have a question: I'm trying to create a clonezilla clone to deploy Ubuntu 16.04 across a ton of devices, it all works fine except for the network interface configuration (as the new enpxsxx scheme is different from device to device)
[16:52] <aietos81> only way around this i could come up is, is to switch back to eth0 etc using the grub config
[16:52] <thnee> I think I was overthinking it, it looks like ExecStartPre itself actually prevents starting the service if the command fails.
[16:52] <aietos81> is there a more elegant way?
[16:59] <aietos81> alternatively was thinking maybe i could do a for loop on /sys/class/net/
[16:59] <aietos81> grab the one that says enp*
[17:00] <aietos81> (dont have to worry about multiple)
[17:00] <aietos81> put it in env variable
[17:00] <aietos81> then in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:00] <aietos81> configure it for that variable?
[17:00] <aietos81> not sure if thats even allowed in /etc/network scripts
[17:01] <aietos81> btw i dont use network manager (its ubuntu server 16.04)
[17:02] <aietos81> but then i think switching back to eth0 is a little better
[17:18] <tomreyn> aietos81: why are you reinventing the wheel? use pxe booting and preseeding
[17:18] <tomreyn> aietos81: and    /join #ubuntu-server    for further deployment suggestions
[17:20] <tomreyn> aietos81: also keep in mind that 16.04 is growing old. unless you're an !ESM customer, ubuntu 16.04 LTS gives you another 1.5 years only.
[17:26] <aietos81> @tomreyn there's a bunch of other software that is preinstalled that I dont have time to setup puppet/chef/ansible scripts for
[17:27] <aietos81> also the factory in china can dump images on the HD, not sure if they can setup pxe network
[17:27] <aietos81> i know its not idea
[17:27] <aietos81> ideal
[17:28] <aietos81> its until i replace the whole thing with newer ubuntu and AWS Greengrass
[17:29]  * tomreyn points to #ubuntu-server
[17:31] <tomreyn> aietos81: are these servers? or rather desktops? or iot? in the latter case, would ubuntu core be better?
[17:31] <aietos81> we control IoT devices through it
[17:31] <aietos81> i should definitely look into core
[17:31] <aietos81> however
[17:32] <aietos81> right now these are legacy
[17:32] <aietos81> and someone chose ubuntu server
[17:32] <aietos81> so i need to make them work
[17:32] <aietos81> while i rearchitect the environment around amazon's offerings
[17:33] <tomreyn> so try the other channel then
[17:34] <oerheks1> yay, upgrade path 19.10 is out
[17:36] <ngai> hk
[17:39] <thelounge62> is it possible to have ubuntu lock my screen without shutting off my monitors?
[17:39] <thelounge62> the external displays get messed up every time they go off, was hoping i could lock without having to unplug / replug them back in
[17:40] <oerheks1> systemsettings > power > blank screen to never?
[17:41] <thelounge62> will give that a try
[17:44] <thelounge62> nah, lock screen still blanks the monitors :-(
[17:46] <oerheks1> works for me
[17:47] <jj5> thelounge62: I have the opposite problem. I want my monitors to power off after some time but they rarely do (sometimes they do, it's confounding!)
[17:48] <thelounge62> weird
[17:56] <erle-> what do I do if gstreamer is not using hardware acc?
[17:56] <erle-> Firefox also isnt
[17:56] <erle-> mpv is using it
[17:59] <tomreyn> you can enable vaapi if your hardware supports it
[17:59] <Peanut> Hi, I've recently upgraded to Eoan, but after the latest apt update, it seems that all my nvidia packages are on the list to be removed, and my desktop will only boot in text mode. Which packages do I need to install to get X working again?
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> Peanut: The psuedo package "ubuntu-desktop" will setup all the required pacakages for a GUI desktop to be installed
[18:00] <tomreyn> erle-: ^
[18:01] <erle-> tomreyn, it does and it is all installed (and I even believe it worked in 19.04)
[18:01] <erle-> tomreyn, I see that mpv is using it with intel_gpu_top etc.
[18:01] <erle-> how enable it?
[18:01] <Peanut> pragmaticenigma: ah, thanks. This is a Kubuntu, so I'll try kubuntu-desktop.
[18:01] <tomreyn> erle-: vainfo looks good?
[18:01] <leonardus> When I have Rider IDE open, it doesn't show in the side bar
[18:02] <pragmaticenigma> Peanut: Should have the same effect. Do you recall what package you might have tried removing that removed the rest?
[18:02] <Peanut> pragmaticenigma: kubuntu-desktop is already the latest version.
[18:02] <leonardus> This is what it looks like https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8f968Oo1/image.png
[18:02] <leonardus> It's not there when it's minimized either
[18:02] <erle-> tomreyn, yes
[18:02] <erle-> gstreamer-vaapi and everything is installed
[18:02] <erle-> it was all working before 19.10, I think
[18:02] <Peanut> pragmaticenigma: Did an apt upgrade. I also did look at the hardware drivers page, but left it running with nouveau.
[18:03] <tomreyn> erle-: see the note on the bottom of https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/tutorials/playback/hardware-accelerated-video-decoding.html
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> Peanut: try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[18:04] <erle-> tomreyn, how can I explicitly tell GStreamer what to do?
[18:05] <Peanut> pragmaticenigma: Looks like aptdeamon decided to remove nvidia-kernel-390, ouch.
[18:05] <tomreyn> erle-: there are examples on the readme https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer-vaapi/blob/master/README
[18:06] <tomreyn> erle-: i've not tested this myself
[18:06] <erle-> I wonder why it just worked before the upgrade
[18:07] <erle-> are there conflicts between vaapi and vdpau?
[18:09] <Peanut> pragmaticenigma: the apt reinstall didn't do much, just installed the package itself, no dependencies. Still no X, even after a reboot.
[18:10] <pragmaticenigma> Peanut: Not sure unfortunately
[18:11] <Peanut> pragmaticenigma: That's fine, thanks for the help. I'll try to re-install more recent versions of the packages that apt decided to remove last night, according to /var/log/apt/history as a next step.
[18:12] <ericsysmin> has anyone managed to get 3 monitors running on two different video cards to work? I'm trying to get it so I can use both but not being successful.
[18:13] <Peanut> ericsysmin: Sorry, I'm currently 0 out of 1 working.
[18:13] <ericsysmin> lol
[18:13] <pragmaticenigma> Peanut: that sounds like a good plan. not sure why apt decided to nuke your graphics drivers out of the blue like that... unless an upgrade to a newer version failed somehow
[18:15] <pragmaticenigma> ericsysmin: are they all on the same graphics chipset family... e.g. All AMD, Nvidia, or Intel?
[18:15] <ericsysmin> Yea, Nvidia
[18:15] <ericsysmin> ones on board in the laptop and the other is external graphics on alienware graphics amplifier
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> ericsysmin: oh... that sort of setup I'm not familiar with sorry
[18:17] <tomreyn> Peanut: did you run    ubuntu-drivers install    yet? that's if you want the proprietary "nvidia" driver, which i assume (based on context) you do.
[18:19] <erle-> tomreyn, it is just ignoring it
[18:19] <erle-> mpv is using it ...
[18:20] <tomreyn> erle-: i have no deeper knowledge of this, you're on your own, good luck!
[18:21] <erle-> since I have butterfs, I can boot a snapshot of 19.04 and look for differences
[18:31] <Peanut> tomreyn: I haven't done that, let me try. I'm now completely without screen (text or gfx) on the machine, after installing nvidia packages. sddm.service failed with result 'core-dump'. (Yay)
[18:32] <Peanut> tomreyn: the 'ubuntu-drivers install' looks promising, it's pulling in a lot more Nvidia stuff.
[18:34] <Peanut> tomreyn: Thanks a lot, that did the trick.
[18:34] <Peanut> I have a full desktop environment again, back to playing Factorio now ;-)
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> Peanut: sounding like time to restore a backup? or backup what you have and fresh install?
[18:38] <Peanut> pragmaticenigma: Desktop works perfectly again already.
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> cool
[18:39] <Peanut> And went from nvidia-390 to nvidia-435. Bigger number, so surely better...
[18:39] <DrManhattan> I haven't had good results from 435 on linux
[18:40] <DrManhattan> 430 branch has given much more stable results for transcoding and the such
[18:40] <jrgilman> hey, any of you guys ever had an issue with inflight wifi on ubuntu? The other day I couldn't get the paywall/garden wall to pop-up for the life of me. I could ping 1.1.1.1 which was strange, but when I tried visiting aainflight.com it just refused to form any connection...
[18:40] <jrgilman> I assume it was some kind of strange DNS magic
[18:41] <DrManhattan> jrgilman, it could have been their wireless too
[18:41] <jrgilman> DrManhattan: well my phone was working just fine and it was on two flights
[18:42] <jrgilman> so it was definitely working but was frustrating. I'm gonna be taking a long haul soon so I'm gonna need to come up with a solution for that
[18:42] <Peanut> DrManhattan: I've tried Stellarium and Factorio so far, no issues in a few minutes of testing.
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> jrgilman: Many free inflight wifi services leave DNS freely available and unrestricted. This is mostly so their captive portal can intercept your attempt to access the interenet to ask you to accept their usage agreement. I carry with me a list of websites that I don't typically go to regularly so that it is likely my machine will be foreced to request a DNS lookup from the provider
[18:42] <DrManhattan> right, just saying that just because their wireless didn't work with linux doesn't mean there is something wrong with the OS, just their wireless.
[18:43] <DrManhattan> right, just saying that just because their wireless didn't work with linux doesn't mean there is something wrong with the OS, just their wireless may not be prepared to deal with non-standard OS connections
[18:43] <jrgilman> pragmaticenigma: yeah I mean when i did curl 172.19.0.1 it would pop-up a redirect, but then if i did curl --location 172.19.0.1 it just hung forever which was sad
[18:43] <jrgilman> DrManhattan: yeah I'm just curious if there's a way to force it through
[18:45] <DrManhattan> Virtual Machine?
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> jrgilman: that would appear to be an issue with the provider. I don't believe there is anything you could have done to prevent that. Possibly try your browser in its privacy mode?
[18:45] <jrgilman> pragmaticenigma: yeah i tried everything i could think of the other day not sure, seems like a lot of people have this issue with chromebooks too
[18:46] <jrgilman> DrManhattan: I thought of that, but I couldn't figure out how to do PCI passthrough of the wifi straight to the windows 10 vm
[18:46] <jrgilman> i assume virtualbox doesn't allow that easily
[18:52] <DrManhattan> No, it doesn't allow it at all
[18:53] <DrManhattan> it's why I can't use vbox in the same way people use ESXI
[18:53] <DrManhattan> it would be an awesome product otherwise
[18:56] <squarebracket> i'm trying to install ubuntu with a preseed file, but it seems to frequently get stuck at package #514 that it's installing. when i check /var/log/syslog, it seems that archive.ubuntu.com just.... stops working? i'm running this fairly often, basically i'm generating vagrant boxes
[18:56] <squarebracket> am i missing something obvious that might be causing this?
[19:01] <tomreyn> squarebracket: occasionally there's a bad mirror server amongst those archive.ubuntu.com resolves to. if you regularly do deployments you may want to set up a local mirror or proxy cache,
[19:03] <davido_> Is it possible to cause my Bluetooth audio profile to switch from High Fidelity Playback (A2DB Sink) to Headset Head Unit (HSP/HFP) automatically when I join a call (meet, skype, etc)?
[19:05] <davido_> Seems I need to manually switch my audio bluetooth profile from HQ to Headset before taking calls through the laptop. It seems like there ought to be a solution for making that cutover happen automatically, but maybe that's related to the 3rd party software such as chrome/meet, skype, whatever making the switch for me.
[19:06] <davido_> (ie, if the 3rd party software doesn't do it, that's the fault of the software, not the os)
[19:22] <squarebracket> tomreyn: fair enough. i guess i can specify my local mirror. is there a reference for debian-installer? like something more helpful than https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apbs04.html ?
[19:27] <tomreyn> squarebracket: not that i know of, but i'm just another user. maybe ask in #ubuntu-server , too
[19:28] <tomreyn> squarebracket: there is documentation from Debian, though https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller
[19:45] <danbe> hey,nontechie here.can someone explain what a networkbased keylogger attack is?
[19:48] <hellghast> basicaly someone reads every key press u make
[19:49] <danbe> that much i could figure.but how would be the archittecture of the attack?
[19:49] <danbe> where does the attack start.?what kind of hardware required?where installed?
[19:50] <hellghast> sorry i can help u there ur just gonna have to wait for nerds to wake up ;]
[19:51] <sarnold> danbe: hardware may or may not be necessary
[19:58] <danbe> true,sometimes just software is enough
[20:00] <danbe> what about attacks in which hardware is necessary because os is always fullencrypted and device is never unattented when decrypted?
[20:02] <tatertots> that doesn't sound like a ubuntu support issue/problem
[20:03] <danbe> thats true ,but there is a lot of expertise on ubuntu forums.maybe you can point me to a forum that would be more on point topicwise.nontechie here
[20:08] <oerheks1> try ##linux or find security or 'which hardware is necessary' channels with !alis
[20:08] <STMelon> or try to use google for that very same question you are asking.. just saying
[20:10] <danbe> i know,already googled,found this as far as hardware is concerned https://www.keelog.com/keygrabber-forensic/.but thats not all there is i guess
[20:12] <oerheks1> STMelon, i rather bing. anyway, ubuntu does not provide a network based keylogger, so good luck with your homework!
[20:12] <nshirelaptop> does anyone know how to scroll up in terminal on a laptop where the uparrow and pageup are on the same key?
[20:13] <nshirelaptop> ctrl-shift-up/fn-ctrl-shift-up just scroll up the input history
[20:13] <STMelon> oerheks1: yay for bing.. duck duck quack!
[20:15] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: sometimes ^P and ^N work, but not all applications know those
[20:16] <nshirelaptop> this is the terminal accessed through ctrl-alt-f3 btw
[20:16] <nshirelaptop> does that still apply sarnold ?
[20:17] <nshirelaptop> yeah looks like ctrl-p/n only scroll the input history again
[20:19] <nshirelaptop> also no numlock key if thats relevant
[20:19] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: dang :(
[20:24] <tomreyn> nshirelaptop: what about shift + pgup/pgdn
[20:25] <tomreyn> actually this will also scroll history, so ignore it.
[20:27] <tomreyn> well it shuld work on a tty and gnome-terminal
[20:30] <nshirelaptop> yeah just shift-uparrow/pageup (they are on the same key) just strolls the history uo
[20:31] <nshirelaptop> I tried using fn-shift-up and nothing happens... I don't know if the fn modifer works at all in a tty, or if the modifier key is doing something to the shift key
[20:47] <simplexify>  Help! I'm a Ubuntu newbie and cannot boot my system after anymore after updating from 19.04 to 19.10. Need 1on1 help. Anybody?
[20:48] <simplexify> Humans there?
[20:49] <nshirelaptop> perhaps
[20:49] <nshirelaptop> does it show GRUB?
[20:50] <simplexify> Yes, but on the 5.3.0.19 Kernel it ends in Kernel panic. And on the old Kernel 5.0.0.32 the screen freezes after passing cryptsetup...
[20:52] <simplexify> I guess I somehow need to fix it from Ubuntu Live USB. Oh where can I get help in Berlin, Germany?
[20:52] <nshirelaptop> like an actual person there with you?
[20:53] <simplexify> An actual person would be nice, but a video chat would do it
[20:54] <simplexify> Or how am I supposed to solve this problem?
[20:55] <AndikaSagala> does your data in the same hdd?
[20:58] <tomreyn> simplexify: hi, are you exclusively looking for commercial support or are you happy with volunteer support here, where you'd have to run some commands and report back their output?
[21:01] <simplexify> @tomreyn volunteer support is amazing. I'd run some commands and report back. I just have this one device though to fix and to report back from
[21:01] <tomreyn> simplexify: okay, so you're running a live session now, right?
[21:03] <simplexify> tomreyn: I'm running Ubuntu Live USB if that's what you mean
[21:04] <tomreyn> simplexify: right, that's what i mean. please open a temrinal window and type this, then post the url it returns:   journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[21:05] <tomreyn> this will post information on your computer model to termbin.com, a 'copy and paste' service whihc is useful for transferring such info
[21:05] <Stabington> Evenin gents
[21:05] <simplexify> thanks! it says: Oct 22 20:01:11 ubuntu kernel: DMI: To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By O.E.M./B85M Pro4, BIOS P2.50 12/11/2015
[21:05] <Stabington> Having a weird issue where the entire WM freeze for a sec when I'm switching between pressing keyboard mapped buttons on my mouse and my regular keyboard. 19.1
[21:05] <tomreyn> simplexify: ah right, actually this didnt return a url, my bad.
[21:05] <Stabington> 19.10*
[21:06] <Stabington> Getting 'MappingNotify event' in xev every time this happens
[21:06] <tomreyn> simplexify: okay, do you have a mobile phone or any other computer you can use to chat here while you reboot?
[21:07] <simplexify> yes, i can use mobile phone
[21:08] <tomreyn> simplexify: okay, don't switch, yet, i'm just asking what's available. next command to type:  sudo lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:09] <squarebracket> tomreyn: that link you pasted 403's for me.
[21:10] <tomreyn> squarebracket: you mean https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller ? works for me. maybe you can tunnel through something, or ask in #debian about why it may not be available to you.
[21:10] <simplexify> @ tomreyn: https://termbin.com/ediq
[21:13] <tomreyn> simplexify: okay, so you have two storages installed, sda (112GB) is the one you boot from, and then there is also sdb (233 GB)
[21:14] <tomreyn> simplexify: are you able to access your hard disk using the graphical file browser?
[21:14] <simplexify> Yes I have two hard disks. On one of them is Windows, on the other Ubuntu, dual boot system
[21:14] <simplexify> And yes I can acces the hard disks using the graphical file browser
[21:16] <tomreyn> simplexify: oh i see those are mounted already. please run:    sudo tail -n400 /media/ubuntu/24436f01-1972-49b2-afca-90f5ab496d2e/var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:17] <tomreyn> hopefully this will hint on how your system failed to boot
[21:18] <simplexify> Ok, let's see :) https://termbin.com/dqv1
[21:22] <simplexify> By the way."
[21:22] <simplexify> Oct 22 18:03:55 sandy-desktop kernel: [   40.618190] lvm2-activation-generator: lvmconfig failed
[21:22] <simplexify> Oct 22 18:03:55 sandy-desktop kernel: [   40.618197] lvm2-activation-generator: Activation generator failed.
[21:22] <simplexify> With these two messages all my problems in the update process to from Ubuntu 19.04 to 19.10 started
[21:23] <simplexify> But then more shit happened because I didn't know how to react to the problems
[21:24] <AndikaSagala> tomreyn: his OS just ordinary user. not coder os
[21:24] <tomreyn> simplexify: ok, but it seems that you booted to the desktop there, or almost. what we're looking at is a boot from Tue Oct 22 2019 18:03:32 GMT+0200 (CEST)
[21:25] <tomreyn> AndikaSagala: sorry?
[21:25] <AndikaSagala> best way is copy/backup his data then do the reinstall
[21:25] <AndikaSagala> i mean he is using Ubuntu OS just for ordinary user. not coder/programming user who do alot of coding, tuning , etc
[21:25] <WoC> Back in the day, before systemd, one could use 'init 3' to switch from a running graphical environment to a console environment. Is there a simple way to accomplish that even with systemd ?
[21:26] <oerheks1> AndikaSagala, how do you tell? fixing an Upgrade to 19.10 issue is rather important, don't you think?
[21:27] <simplexify> @tomreyn: okay, yes, that was around the time of the update
[21:28] <AndikaSagala> oerheks1: it is just Ubuntu still not patch it. Data is main priority
[21:29] <AndikaSagala> but if you using Ubuntu OS for coding, example: AI/Robotic/Server/DNS/Networking experiment, then don't reinstall, do the fixing. but if you use Ubuntu just as a ordinary user, then just do the reinstall then do the update
[21:29] <AndikaSagala> using latest ubuntu OS
[21:29] <tomreyn> WoC: systemd calls this multi-user.target
[21:29] <WoC> ty tomreyn, how do i call it ?
[21:29] <tomreyn> WoC: systemctl isolate multi-user.target     would bring you there
[21:30] <WoC> k, ty and to go vack to the equiv of init 5 ?
[21:30] <WoC> s/vack/back
[21:30] <oerheks1> graphical.target
[21:31] <WoC> k ty
[21:31] <tomreyn> simplexify: okay, can you join from the mobile phone and try this:
[21:32] <tomreyn> ! recovery | simplexify
[21:33] <AndikaSagala> the main priority now is his Data. don't lose his data
[21:35] <simplexify> I appreciate the help, guys/girls. I think I fucked up the system big time = cannot enter recovery mode anymore. I was able to do so earlier but clicked the wrong options. Now when I choose recovery mode it fails, stating: ""[9.0839347] rtlwifi: RTL8XXX did not boot from eeprom, check it !!"
[21:36] <tomreyn> simplexify: how do you mean you "clicked the wrong options"? when? just during booting now?
[21:36] <simplexify> I think it's all fucked and I will save my data, as AndikaSagala says, and reinstall, although I hate the fact that the update to 19.10 didn't work and instead messed up my computer
[21:37] <simplexify> @tomreyn: earlier
[21:37] <simplexify> @tomreyn: I tried all ways to boot earlier (different kernels, normal mode, recovery mode), and I cannot boot in any kind of mode anymore.
[21:38] <tomreyn> simplexify: backup and reinstall is always an option. you could try to chroot into it, too. but that's advanced and would probably take us an hour or two more
[21:39] <simplexify> It's getting late here. I appreciate the help. Is there a way to connect to Ubuntu community locally?
[21:40] <jeremy31> simplexify: try /join #ubuntu-berlin
[21:41] <simplexify> thanks
[22:11] <Comnenus> How can I find out which packages put a file at /etc/sssd/sssd.conf ?  I have quite a few of them installed, but no skeleton.
[22:21] <ikanobori> `dpkg -S /path/tofile`?
[22:23] <tomreyn> Comnenus: ^ here's a free highlight for you.
[22:23] <Comnenus> ikanobori tomreyn thanks !
[22:24] <Comnenus> Apparently there isn't anything that puts a skeleton there.  oh well.
[22:25] <ikanobori> From recollection it's something to do with AD.
[22:25] <tomreyn> Comnenus: it could also happens as a result of a oistinstall script
[22:25] <tomreyn> sssd is also a package name, i think
[22:26] <ikanobori> The 'System Security Services Daemon' apparently.
[22:26] <Comnenus> ikanobori: there's /etc/realmd.conf and /etc/sssd/sssd.conf which were usually populated from packages.  Doesn't seem to be the case with ubuntu.  I'm changing a playbook written for centos so instead of editing the file I'll just drop it in place.
[22:26] <ikanobori> Ah!
[22:32] <MekelySpooky> i was wondering if someone could be assitance
[22:32] <tomreyn> !ask
[22:32] <MekelySpooky> i cannot paste my irssi config into nano, not the whole thing at least
[22:32] <MekelySpooky> hmm
[22:33] <tomreyn> MekelySpooky: why do you need to paste into it? it's already store din a file, you could just open or copy it
[22:35] <tomreyn> MekelySpooky: if you still prefer to copy and paste to nanao, this should also work - why do you say it doesn't work?
[22:42] <MekelySpooky> oh sorry it allows me to copy but the whole thing does not paste
[22:43] <MekelySpooky> it pastes a small fraction
[22:43] <MekelySpooky> there is also no dynamic zoom so i can't paste past my fov
[22:44] <MekelySpooky> also its not stored in a din file im transfering it from a system from my home so i emailed it before i left,
[22:44] <tomreyn> it's a CLI text editor, and a simple one. maybe use a different one if you'd like more features or better integration.
[22:45] <tomreyn> "dynamic zoom" sounds like you may want to use a graphical text editor.
[22:45] <MekelySpooky> i tried using emacs aswell do you have any at the mind
[22:46] <tomreyn> do you run a graphical desktop, and if so, which? and which ubuntu version is this?
[22:46] <MekelySpooky> server, its a cli
[22:46] <MekelySpooky> in a vm
[22:47] <oerheks1> for virtualbox, one needs guest additions to fix that paste stuff?
[22:47] <tomreyn> so use "cp" to copy your existing issi configuration file to a new location, then nanoor the editor of your choice to edit it
[22:48] <tomreyn> if you need to trasfe rit from another location, use file transfer utilities.
[22:48] <MekelySpooky> ok
[22:48] <oerheks1> shift ctrl v perhaps
[22:48] <tomreyn> (such as openssh server and client)
[22:49] <tomreyn> no details were given on where to copy from and how, or which virtualization is in use, i won't jump to conclusions
[22:49] <oerheks1> yes, pretty important info to start with
[22:50] <MekelySpooky> its vmware, i am able to copy and paste from vm to non, its just the whole paste does not end up there
[22:50] <MekelySpooky> ctrl u to paste
[22:50] <MekelySpooky> in nano
[22:51] <AndikaSagala> oerheks1: better using VMware for your virt. VMware have a lot of stuffs for us. but if you are using fedora, it is good to practice over there before you enter Red Hat OS which very rich and a lot of stuffs too.
[22:51] <oerheks1> AndikaSagala, we do not suggest vmware her, KVM, or virtualbox, thanks, but no.
[22:52] <AndikaSagala> https://www.vmware.com/
[22:52] <AndikaSagala> k
[22:52] <oerheks1> and redhat.. please stay on topic, this is ubuntu support
[22:52] <AndikaSagala> hey, we are on Unix topic
[22:53] <AndikaSagala> Ubuntu is part of unix too. take it easy and calm down
[22:57] <oerheks1> MekelySpooky, is ubuntu the host for vmware?
[22:58] <AndikaSagala> don't use kvm nor virtualbox in ubuntu if your target is being Red Hat admin
[22:58] <AndikaSagala> just use Vmware, they are very rich tech and feature
[22:58] <oerheks1> AndikaSagala, stop it.
[22:58] <tomreyn> AndikaSagala: i agree with oerheks, this recommendation appears to be off-topic here.
[22:59] <AndikaSagala> but if your target being Red Hat admin, go to fedora
[22:59] <AndikaSagala> k
[22:59] <AndikaSagala> im silent
[23:04] <AndikaSagala> in my country, they are barely using Red Hat as a server. Usually CentOs (web server ). But in Europe and America, Red Hat is good.
[23:04] <MekelySpooky> kali linxu exists also, red had its somewhat outdated
[23:04] <MekelySpooky> linux*
[23:05] <tomreyn> AndikaSagala: this is a support channel, not for chatting
[23:05] <tomreyn> !ot
[23:05] <oerheks1> you paid vmware for support :-P
[23:07] <AndikaSagala> k, im silent sir
[23:08] <wjlafrance> tomreyn: not sure why you're continuing to tell them to be quiet when he was silent for five straight minutes and the last thing they said was they were going to be quiet
[23:10] <tomreyn> wjlafrance: i have not asked nyone to be quiet, just to abide the channel policies (see /topic). we can talk more about this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like.
[23:12] <wjlafrance> tomreyn, my apologies, i see that they posted again after several minutes and that's why you re-warned them. my apologies, i'm a bit off as of late. i've /joined that channel but wanted to apologize here.
[23:12] <tomreyn> wjlafrance: no worries, thanks for responding ;)