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dr`venomI'm upgrading to Kubuntu 19.10. I got this  configuring grub-pc and I don't know what to pick. It says: A new version (/tmp/grub.zl5etoJx5W) of configuration file /etc/default/grub is available, but the version installed has been locally modified. What do you want to do about modified configuration file grub: Install the package maintainer's version, Keep the local version currently installed.00:40
dr`venomI don't k now what to pick.00:40
tomreyndr`venom: does it not offer to show the differences?00:42
tomreynif it doesn't, you can compare yourself using    diff /etc/default/grub /tmp/grub.zl5etoJx5W     in a separate terminal window / tty / screen window00:44
dr`venomI just wouldn't know what to look for in the differences00:44
dr`venomIf I keep the one I had, would my system still work?00:45
tomreyndr`venom: probably so, but i have not done an upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10, yet, so can't promise00:49
tomreyndr`venom: feel free to share the differences:    diff -u /etc/default/grub /tmp/grub.zl5etoJx5W | nc termbin.com 999900:50
dr`venomNo problem, if it breaks i'll try that grub repair program or do a clean install. Thank you. I looked at the differences but it was over my head. I'm new at all this stuff.00:50
marianoUpdate went fine, but one issue. Whenever I open writer or libreoffice, the document recovery dialog box opens up. It shows an untitled document 1, whether I chose to start the recover or discard it, libreoffice crashes.01:31
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IrcsomeBotVibs1 was added by: Vibs105:43
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IrcsomeBot<shafipsufi> Hey, … Can anyone help regarding partition while installing Kubuntu without losing existing data06:44
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:44
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enkeyzJust want to thank Kubuntu team making this Linux distro, and just want to say, I'm moving to Manjaro, because making snap as package manager is a big no no for me08:36
enkeyzjust an example: today installing VSCode from snap taken 8minutes, but installing it on Manjaro with pacman taken about 20 seconds08:37
nigthelf7hello everyone09:12
nigthelf7I do not know if you suffered the same issue but the battery remaining time in Kubuntu 19.10 does not refresh itself09:12
nigthelf7it always show the same remaining time09:13
diogenes_nigthelf7, do you have upower installed?09:15
nigthelf7upower -d show the right time09:16
diogenes_is upower.service runming?09:16
nigthelf7and I see the messages of the battery with dbus-monitor --system sender=org.freedesktop.UPower09:20
nigthelf7it is weird09:20
nigthelf7I think it just get it from the bootup process09:20
nigthelf7right now it has 15 minutes left and the percentage is 94%...09:20
diogenes_nigthelf7, what is you systemctl restart upower09:20
nigthelf7but the weirdest part is that the percentage of the battery is getting it right09:21
nigthelf7I already did it the restart part09:21
nigthelf7it is not working either09:21
nigthelf7this what I get from dbus:dict entry(09:23
nigthelf7         string "TimeToEmpty"09:23
nigthelf7         variant             int64 3922509:23
nigthelf7      )09:23
nigthelf7this what I get from dbus: https://pastebin.com/3fZetm0b09:23
nigthelf7maybe you have different messages and that is why is working for you09:23
nigthelf7I do not know09:23
nigthelf7I have opened a bug in ubuntu site09:25
nigthelf7I do not see a place to do it for kubuntu09:25
LinnerisI just updated from Kubuntu 19.04 to 19.10, and font rendering in Qt applications (including KDE) has become noticeably worse. The fonts look thinner and gaps between glyphs are inconsistent.09:31
LinnerisGTK applications look fine. Any ideas?09:31
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IlgazHello all, back to Kubuntu finally. One issue here. GDK_BACKEND=wayland thing to enable Firefox wayland fails, strange thing is it works under ubuntu 19.1010:46
BluesKajHowdy all11:07
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> @BluesKaj, Howdy BluesKaj!11:19
IrcsomeBotemanuel_lima was added by: emanuel_lima11:22
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> I have a question: how unstable Kubuntu becomes after updating Plasma through the backports PPA? Does anyone have experience on this?11:24
BluesKajhey Linuxophil11:29
BluesKajemanuel_lima , which kubuntu release?11:30
BluesKajbackports are normally not a ppa nowadays, they're a part of the default sources, which may or may not be commented11:33
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> @emanuel_lima, I use Kubuntu 18.04 with backports since its release. It is super stable.11:33
BluesKajI don't think you'll have any stability problems with 18.0411:34
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> @emanuel_lima, However, backports with 18.04 stay with the LTS Plasma 5.12 and its point releases.11:34
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> @BluesKaj, I have Kubuntu Eoan and was thinking about upgrading to plasma 5.17.111:35
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> @emanuel_lima, For 19.04 and 19.10 you will get new Plasma releases and thus the bugs that come with it.11:35
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> @emanuel_lima, Maybe wait for 5.17.2 before upgrading. Then you should be fine.11:36
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> @BluesKaj, It says it is a PPA here  … https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-17-for-kubuntu-19-10-available-in-backports-ppa/11:36
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> @Linuxophil, Good advice11:36
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> @emanuel_lima, I have long wanted a "stability ppa" that only includes the later point releases of a new Plasma version. Like skipping 5.17.1, 5.17.2 and 5.17.3. Just make the user upgrade from the last version of Plasma 5.16 to a mature 5.17.4 or similar.11:39
BluesKajemanuel_lima, then if you want stability don11:40
BluesKajdon't use ppas11:40
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> Will the backports PPA continue to receive new plasma versions indefinitely or just 5.17 point releases?11:41
BluesKajmaybe ask the devs11:41
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> Thanks :)11:42
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @emanuel_lima, It should get Plasma 5.18 when that goes into the 20.04 development release.12:25
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> @RikMills, Right 👍12:26
IrcsomeBot<ericadams> For what it's worth I have used backports on 18.04, 18.10, and 19.04 and never had any stability issues. The random app might crash but the shell never has nor has it frozen. I think that has as much to do with Plasma releases being generally high quality as it does with Ubuntu's base. Also not saying that is everyone's experience or that you'd want to do the same. Keep in mind you can roll back from backports to stock if something13:04
IrcsomeBotgoes awry.13:04
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> How would I rollback?13:07
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> ppa-purge13:08
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/eoan/man1/ppa-purge.1.html13:09
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> Right, so I only have to remove the ppa, and the packages rollback automatically?13:15
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> the ppa-purge command downgrades all the packages from the ppa to the version from the main archive, then disables ppa13:17
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> Nice. Thanks13:17
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> So for example here, this would do the job … ```sudo ppa-purge kubuntu-ppa/backports```13:19
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> oh, and 'ppa-purge' is a package you need to install 1st13:20
IrcsomeBot<emanuel_lima> 👍🏻13:38
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IrcsomeBotVolker Fratzscher was added by: Volker Fratzscher19:03
denza242how easy is it to move a partition over to another drive? What i'd like to do in my new laptop, is get a new ssd, and transfer my linux partition onto it, as currently, i have both my windows partition and linux partition on the same ssd19:07
denza242the end goal is that windows is on one drive, while kubuntu is on the other19:07
oerheksdd the partition, reinstall grub with the right new UUID..19:08
oerheksnot worth the trouble with allignment and such , i would go for fresh install19:09
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Ilgazdoes anyone use Firefox in wayland mode on 19.10? Here it fails to launch19:28
Ilgazon normal Ubuntu 19.10 it works. Strange19:28
denza242under kwin?19:29
IlgazYes I am using kde, in wayland mode. Intel gfx.19:31
IlgazI know I can't expect too much from Firefox on wayland but working on ubuntu and not working on kubuntu, I thought I should report it19:33
denza242might be a kwin thing19:33
IlgazOh yes on Ubuntu, gnome-wayland was running19:34
IlgazHey perhaps I am missing stuff to make gtk apps work on wayland19:35
denza242i'm no expert on the matter btw, so take what i say with a grain of salt. I'm looking stuff up19:35
IlgazI better find a similar bug report or create my own. Wayland users would want Firefox in wayland mode. Especially people with 4K displays etc19:37
oerhekstry GDK_BACKEND=wayland ./firefox19:45
oerheksknown issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155166419:45
ubottuMozilla bug 1551664 in Widget: Gtk "[Wayland] Developer Edition crashes on startup, nightly working fine" [Normal,Unconfirmed]19:45
IlgazWeirdest thing ever, solution is on youtube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xIvppquqco19:47
Ilgazoerheks: will try now19:48
Ilgazno difference. If it wasn't kubuntu, I wouldn't say a word since I am tired of being lectured about how wayland isn't needed, hardware acceleration is needless etc19:51
IlgazIt seems KDE guys really take such stuff serious19:51
oerhekssome older bugreports talk abou --no-remote when you get the error ff is already ruinning, ff 67 or so19:51
oerhekskubuntu and wayland.. hmm19:51
Ilgazoerheks: KDE devs are very eager to support, even at one point people misunderstood the enthuiasm and thought KDE is dropping X11 lol19:53
IlgazOh it works great under X11, I am just on Intel gfx 5500 here, I need every possible acceleration for battery life19:53
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Ilgazaha oerheks firefox nightly produced the same message20:00
Ilgazdbus thing20:00
IlgazOK when you add that argument, it doesn't core dump stating dbus. It just says can't open display20:02
IlgazThe browser I truly like is Konqueror btw, it is just sites not caring about it20:02
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bpromptIlgaz:  is not that site do not care about Konqueror, is that Konqueror is deprecated and standards are changing quite a bit, btw I do use Konqueror, as a File Manager, as a file manager is terrific20:34
Ilgazwell at least I learned firefox enables gpu process and webrender even on Intel/Linux in firefox 7120:56
IrcsomeBotBrosseau CHRISTOPH was added by: Brosseau CHRISTOPH23:16
leonardo_Sistema operacional: Kubuntu 19.10  ----    Versão do KDE Plasma: 5.17.123:41
leonardo_I cant save "auto login" in user configuration tab.23:41
leonardo_I had to edit the login file with kate notepad to change auto login.23:41
leonardo_Anyone has this issue? Is a known bug?23:41
RikMillsleonardo_: Yeah, I see the same thing in KDE Neon, so not a Kubuntu specific bug23:52

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