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| Gusj | Hi there, I have Xubuntu 19.04 that I upgrade from 18.04, but when I do 'lsb_release -a' I get this=> "Description:Ubuntu 19.04 Release:19.04 Codename:disco" Shouldn't it say Xubuntu? | 02:09 |
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| Gusj | I upgrade using the 'Software Updater' | 02:10 |
| tomreyn | Gusj: see /etc/os-release does this say xubuntu? | 02:12 |
| tomreyn | i think lsb_release always says Ubuntu for all flavors since it's about the foundation / base that is common to all flavors | 02:13 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: Hi Tom :) one of the lines says this => VERSION="19.04 (Disco Dingo)" on other lines it mentions Ubuntu never Xubuntu | 02:13 |
| Bashing-om | Gusj: ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP '. | 02:14 |
| tomreyn | and when you run cat /var/log/installer/media-info what does it say? | 02:14 |
| Gusj | Bashing-om: I get ablank line after running that | 02:14 |
| xubuntu6w | i have xubuntu 18.04 and i need to delete the tar.xz extract file? | 02:15 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: Ok now yes Tom, ===> Xubuntu 18.04.3 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20190805) | 02:15 |
| tomreyn | Gusj: well that's just what you installed with. is the xubuntu-desktop package installed? | 02:16 |
| Bashing-om | Gusj: Huh ? I get - sysop@x1804mini:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP >> xubuntu XFCE - | 02:16 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w: "the tar.xz extract file"? which one? | 02:16 |
| tomreyn | echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP | 02:16 |
| tomreyn | ubuntu ubuntu:GNOME | 02:16 |
| tomreyn | ...is what i get, i think Gusj may have run it with the single quotes | 02:16 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: I am not sure, I installed originally the Xubuntu 18.04 LTS from liveusb and now I upgraded through Software Updater to 19.04 to get to 19.10 | 02:17 |
| xubuntu6w | i have xubuntu 18.04 and i need to delete the tar.xz extract file how can i delete these file | 02:17 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w: the "rm" command can delete files | 02:18 |
| Gusj | Bashing-om: I ran it without single quotes and got an empty line | 02:18 |
| xubuntu6w | you mean type rm in the commad | 02:18 |
| tomreyn | Gusj: what's the output for: apt list xubuntu-desktop | 02:19 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w: i can't provide more details since your questions are unclear | 02:19 |
| Bashing-om | Gusj: Is there A GUI active at this time ? | 02:20 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w: maybe you can provide more contextual information | 02:20 |
| Gusj | Bashing-om: yes the xfce session | 02:22 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: xubuntu-desktop/eoan 2.231 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.228] + xubuntu-desktop/eoan 2.231 i386 | 02:22 |
| tomreyn | Gusj: so your upgrade isn't actually done | 02:23 |
| xubuntu6w | i donwload tar.xz file and extract in the desktop but unfortunate i cant remove those files because it shows me lock sign | 02:23 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: I am upgrading right now to 19.10 inorder to get the xfce 4.14 which I was told has Color managing integrated, needed to change Color Profile in 18,04 and displaycal would not work, I was not able to get it to work | 02:24 |
| tomreyn | Gusj: oh wait you said you upgraded to 19.04 from 18.04. but why is it shoing you the 19.10 version? | 02:24 |
| tomreyn | ah, good info to have | 02:24 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w: select all file on desktop, right click on, select properties, then make sure it's writable | 02:25 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w: all the files with a lock sign, that is | 02:26 |
| tomreyn | i'm not 100% sure it works like this on xubuntu, but it may | 02:26 |
| xubuntu6w | i try it but it is not working | 02:27 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w: try this instead: open a terminal window, type: chmod -R +r ~/Desktop/ mkae sure you make no typos there | 02:29 |
| tomreyn | (you can copy + paste) | 02:29 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: Right now it is in the 'installing upgrade' stage of the updater's GUI | 02:31 |
| tomreyn | that's cool with me | 02:32 |
| Gusj | so the output of 'apt list xubuntu-desktop' xubuntu-desktop/eoan 2.231 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.228] xubuntu-desktop/eoan 2.231 i386 confirms that I have xubuntu? | 02:34 |
| xubuntu6w60 | j | 02:34 |
| xubuntu6w60 | hi can please retype | 02:35 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w60: open a terminal window, type: chmod -R +r ~/Desktop/ make sure you make no typos there | 02:36 |
| xubuntu6w60 | it says Operation not permitted | 02:38 |
| tomreyn | xubuntu6w60: hmm i guess you unpacked the files using sudo then? | 02:42 |
| xubuntu6w60 | what do i type | 02:45 |
| tomreyn | sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/ # again, no typos please | 02:48 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: Tom, after it has finished upgrading to 19.10, do I have to erase the previous versions, leftovers? I know the Software Updater says it does it, but is there a manual step that I must take? | 03:07 |
| tomreyn | Gusj: it should have cleaned things up already. unless anything is not working which should be working, it'll be fine. | 03:09 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: Ok thank you, looking forward to being able to change Color Profiles and explore the new version, really liking Xubuntu | 03:10 |
| tomreyn | :) you're welcome. ttyl. | 03:11 |
| Gusj | Bashing-om: Now I got the output of the ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP as Xubuntu Xfce :) | 03:26 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: This happened incase it happens to someone else, when I restarted after the upgrade was over and it asks you to restart, that first restart did not have wifi, it was active, turned on the laptop, as I could see it in black and not in gray, btu would not connect to my wifi, then I rebooted again and it connects automatically | 03:27 |
| Gusj | tomreyn: happene dboth times, from 18.04 lTS to 19.04 and to 19.10 | 03:28 |
| Bashing-om | Gusj: :D confirms then that your install is (x)ubuntu. | 03:31 |
| Gusj | Bashing-om: Yes thank you :) saved that comm and Toms | 03:43 |
| Bashing-om | Gusj: And confirms too that I have not completely lost my sanity :P | 03:47 |
| Gusj | Bashing-om: Ahh haha | 03:51 |
| Gusj | Just went to 'Color Profiles' in settings to calibrate, but after I start calibrating it asks me to plug in hardware in order to calibrate. I have some hardware for this just not right now at hand, so it does not let me continue calibrating | 03:53 |
| GlaceonBM | hey hey, I'm having an issue where my headphone jack isn't working. nothing's being recognized through it | 05:00 |
| GlaceonBM | it's been like this for a few releases | 05:00 |
| GlaceonBM | I'm on a Thinkpad E480 | 05:01 |
| diogenes_ | GlaceonBM, maybe it's broken? | 05:07 |
| GlaceonBM | No, cause it works fine on the Windows partition. I'm dualbooting linux and windows. | 05:09 |
| diogenes_ | GlaceonBM, have u tried to switch the output manually in pavucontrol? | 05:11 |
| GlaceonBM | I believe I tried that in the past, but I can check it again. How would I go about doing that? | 05:13 |
| diogenes_ | in menu type pavucontrol | 05:14 |
| GlaceonBM | Yeah, the only output device available is Speakers. It doesn't recognize the jack at all. | 05:15 |
| diogenes_ | GlaceonBM, i'd also recommend asking in #pulseaudio. | 05:17 |
| GlaceonBM | Okay, thanks! | 05:17 |
| diogenes_ | np | 05:17 |
| xubuntu99w | hi are you human/ | 06:50 |
| xubuntu99w | ? | 06:50 |
| diogenes_ | ? | 06:51 |
| xubuntu99w | well anyone can suggest me which one is good ? | 06:51 |
| Mead | Negative we are meat popsicles | 06:51 |
| xubuntu99w | ubuntu or xubuntu? | 06:51 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu ofc. | 06:52 |
| xubuntu99w | for i3 laptop | 06:52 |
| Mead | it is all about your preference and what not. xubuntu using a different gui that people here tend to like better | 06:52 |
| xubuntu99w | have i3 2348m with 3gb ddr3 | 06:53 |
| xubuntu99w | dualboot with win7? | 06:54 |
| Mead | get the 32 bit version if that is still a thing | 06:54 |
| xubuntu99w | well it can support win7 64bit | 06:55 |
| diogenes_ | 64bit is recommended. | 06:55 |
| xubuntu99w | so xubuntu is better/ | 06:55 |
| xubuntu99w | ? | 06:55 |
| Mead | it doesn't have enough ram to need 64bit | 06:55 |
| xubuntu99w | well someone told me that 2gb+ ram is needed | 06:56 |
| Unit193 | Right but i386 is being deprecated in Ubuntu. | 06:56 |
| diogenes_ | 3gb is ok for 64bit. | 06:57 |
| xubuntu99w | thanks | 06:57 |
| xubuntu99w | will work in dualboot with win 7? | 06:58 |
| diogenes_ | yes | 06:58 |
| xubuntu37w | hi | 09:05 |
| xubuntu37w | well 19.10 desktop version work on laptops? | 09:06 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu37w, of course. | 09:08 |
| xubuntu37w | while installing will it erase any data? | 09:09 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu37w, dependin if you know what you're doing. | 09:11 |
| xubuntu37w | lol | 09:11 |
| xubuntu0w | well i what is the latest version of xubuntu to usa? | 12:00 |
| xubuntu0w | use* | 12:01 |
| xubuntu0w | hellow | 12:04 |
| xubuntu0w | is anyone here? | 12:04 |
| xubuntu99w | hi there | 12:06 |
| xubuntu99w | anyone here? | 12:07 |
| xubuntu99w | xubuntu 18.04 or 19.10? | 12:09 |
| xubuntu0w | hi anyone here? | 12:10 |
| henrebotha[m] | Patience my friends | 12:12 |
| henrebotha[m] | Use whatever version you feel like | 12:12 |
| xubuntu0w | well actually im not familier with ubuntu trying it for first time | 12:13 |
| xubuntu0w | i have downloaded an iso of xubuntu 19.10 which is about 1.53GiB | 12:13 |
| ondondil | 18.04 is long term support release, has support for 3 years. 19.10 is regular release supported for 9 months | 12:14 |
| xubuntu0w | so shuld i go for 18.04 or 19.10? | 12:14 |
| xubuntu0w | is 19.10 is beta or stable version? | 12:16 |
| xubuntu0w | hi | 12:19 |
| nikolam | Hi, how do I force desktop icons on 19.04 to appear on primary monitor | 12:20 |
| nikolam | I added external monitor to the laptop and both panel and desktop moved to external monitor , I want them on primary, laptop monitor | 12:21 |
| xubuntu0w | which one is more user friendly 18.04 or 19.10? | 12:21 |
| nikolam | I think it's mostly same stuff since 2006 if you ask me :) but, yes, newer is more reasonable to report bugs in order to make it better | 12:22 |
| xubuntu0w | well i have both iso | 12:22 |
| xubuntu0w | which one should i install? | 12:22 |
| henrebotha[m] | We don't know | 12:23 |
| henrebotha[m] | Asking the same question twelve times doesn't help | 12:23 |
| henrebotha[m] | Take it slow | 12:23 |
| henrebotha[m] | Ask one question at a time | 12:23 |
| henrebotha[m] | Wait for an answer | 12:23 |
| nikolam | if you are running server and want to be stable and with old packages, and will to update only when next LTS comes, choose LTS, 18.04 | 12:24 |
| nikolam | If want to use newer stable apps, still supported and able for your reports to count and as well to keep user experience not outdated, choose newest | 12:24 |
| henrebotha[m] | 18.04 and 19.10 are very similar. 18.04 is a long term support release, so if you are doing something critical, 18.04 is a good choice. 19.10 is the most recent stable release, so if you want the latest nice features then get that one. | 12:24 |
| nikolam | Whnever I enable external monitor, desktop icons migrate to it, how do I keep them on primary monitor and stil use external monitor? | 12:25 |
| xubuntu0w | well i am just installing the ubuntu to improve my game performance | 12:27 |
| nikolam | then definitely newest | 12:29 |
| nikolam | and also it pushes to even newer parts then usually, for games. | 12:30 |
| nikolam | then newest | 12:30 |
| xubuntu32w | will i still be able to run apps after installing xbuntu ? | 12:37 |
| xubuntu32w | win apps? | 12:37 |
| nikolam | I figured it, it simply does not care what monitor is primary, but which one is on the left side. | 12:53 |
| nikolam | one on the left side gets panel, desktop and app windows | 12:54 |
| henrebotha[m] | Which version are you on nikolam ? | 12:55 |
| nikolam | 19.04 henrebotha[m] . But I will soon migrate to 19.10 | 13:00 |
| nikolam | they say xfdesktop got support for setting it to open on primary display. | 13:00 |
| nikolam | Will see how it goes for windows manager | 13:00 |
| henrebotha[m] | Apparently 19.10 (with Xfce 4.14) has a lot of improvements to display settings, maybe it will be better about fixing monitor layout stuff | 13:00 |
| nikolam | henrebotha[m], yes, I'll see how it is after update now. | 13:01 |
| Loeb | Since upgrading to 19.10, when coming back from a lid shut + suspend, the desktop is showing for a moment before going to the lock screen. Is this a known bug? I've removed xfce4-screensaver as it seemingly got installed during the upgrade and was messing up other things. | 16:02 |
| Loeb | Or, if not installed it got settings changed dramatically. | 16:03 |
| === tmager1 is now known as tmager | ||
| brainwash | Loeb: so, you see this problem with the previous locker (light-locker)? | 16:52 |
| Loeb | Not actually sure which locker is being used | 16:53 |
| Loeb | I hadn't manually changed anything from bionic to eoan | 16:54 |
| Loeb | just did `apt upgrade` and let the devs take the wheel | 16:55 |
| brainwash | then it should still be light-locker | 17:00 |
| brainwash | maybe there's a new report for this type of issue | 17:01 |
| brainwash | only found a report for xfce4-screensaver though | 17:05 |
| brainwash | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15929 | 17:05 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 15929 in General "on 'suspend' : locking only occurs after resume, desktop is visible (with workaround)" [Normal,New] | 17:05 |
| Loeb | @brainwash I think the "suspend happening before screen can be locked" scenario checks out. The posted workaround didn't work but I don't have time to super dig into it at the moment | 17:26 |
| Loeb | But it sounds like that's where I should start | 17:26 |
| === kadiro_ is now known as kadiro | ||
| Noboru55 | Hello, today i got the same problem twice in Xubuntu 18.04. I uninstalled the e-mail client and notes in gnome-software and after i did it, the emulator was uninstalled too and the keyboard alt+esc stopped works. so i just reinstall all xubuntu and did the same uninstalling notes and e-mail cliente in software-gnome and again i lost emulator | 22:42 |
| Noboru55 | and the keyboard shortcut to menu whiskers... | 22:42 |
| Noboru55 | just installed again the xubuntu now i will not uninstall the mail client and notes... | 22:42 |
| Noboru55 | in the first time i lost thunar too.... oO weird things happens when i use that new ubuntu software center | 22:44 |
| tomreyn | use apt or synaptic to carry out your changes, then, if you actually read the output, you will know in advance which impact they will have. | 22:46 |
| Noboru55 | tomreyn: i always liked the synaptic.. i will do it | 22:47 |
| tomreyn | if you're moving software that's part of the graphical desktop, and the graphical desktop metapackage gets removed as a result of your changes, this can also cause other packages to be removed | 22:47 |
| tomreyn | *REmoving | 22:47 |
| Noboru55 | i see.. probably when i deleted the email client i got some changes in the menu whisker, panel and other places | 22:48 |
| Noboru55 | tomreyn but the gimp is better in software ubuntu.. all menu are in the same window | 22:49 |
| Noboru55 | i do not like that old style.. and the old style is installed in synaptic or apt | 22:49 |
| tomreyn | i don't see how your preferences for GUIs relate to package management | 22:50 |
| Noboru55 | maybe the version of synaptic is not the same of the software center, but its ok.. now everything is ok | 22:51 |
| Noboru55 | ^ ^ | 22:51 |
| brainwash | you shouldn't uninstall the email client | 22:57 |
| brainwash | actually, the email client launcher | 22:57 |
| brainwash | bug 1783764 | 22:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1783764 in Exo "Deleting "Mail Reader" crashes the computer" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783764 | 22:59 |
| Noboru55 | brainwash really? i did not know that.... thanks for advice | 23:10 |
| Noboru55 | i just thought the email client was kinda a icon in panel and a item in menu | 23:11 |
| brainwash | yes, it is a launcher | 23:11 |
| Noboru55 | oh... now i know why i had some problems with alt+esc | 23:12 |
| brainwash | but the launcher is provided by an important Xfce library | 23:12 |
| Noboru55 | they should name it with other name | 23:12 |
| brainwash | this was fixed in newer Xubuntu releases already | 23:12 |
| brainwash | the entry for email client does not appear in the software center anymore | 23:13 |
| brainwash | same for web browser | 23:13 |
| Noboru55 | i see... but the notes... can i remove? | 23:14 |
| brainwash | I think so | 23:14 |
| Noboru55 | better not.. tired of reinstall xubuntu today | 23:14 |
| brainwash | you can remove it via terminal: sudo apt remove xfce4-notes | 23:15 |
| Noboru55 | brainwash thank you for the explanation | 23:15 |
| Noboru55 | brainwash i like this.. indicator-stickynotes looks better | 23:15 |
| brainwash | removing a package via terminal will tell you what other packages will be removed also | 23:15 |
| Noboru55 | right... its better to use the terminal so | 23:16 |
| Noboru55 | xterm i guess | 23:16 |
| brainwash | Xfce has xfce4-terminal | 23:16 |
| Noboru55 | xubuntu is great, surprised how it works lightweght and fine | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | You could also use synaptic, which will also say what else will be removed. | 23:17 |
| Noboru55 | Unit193 yes, good idea too... | 23:17 |
| Noboru55 | just wondering to do not use the software center | 23:18 |
| Noboru55 | after a update i can't find the games section in software center... but i'ts ok.. now i will use apt and synaptic | 23:18 |
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