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sil2100 | o/ | 15:01 |
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rbalint | o/ | 15:01 |
infinity | \o | 15:01 |
waveform | o/ | 15:01 |
bdmurray | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:02 |
meetingology | Meeting started Thu Oct 24 15:02:16 2019 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:02 |
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bdmurray | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:02 |
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bdmurray | doko mwhudson cyphermox infinity bdmurray xnox vorlon sil2100 tdaitx rbalint waveform | 15:03 |
bdmurray | doko: | 15:03 |
doko | * archive opening & python3.8 | 15:04 |
doko | (done) | 15:04 |
xnox | nice | 15:04 |
bdmurray | cyphermox: | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - shim reviews: Oracle, CentOS, zkey (in progress) | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - submitted our own new shim for review | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - discussing shim reviewing processes with Microsoft, shim-review community | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - preparing unicode-data SRUs | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - got context back from Julian about grub chainloading of bootctl-based binaries | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - spec updates for UC20 plugin and openvswitch | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - more debugging on reports of Windows chainloading issues; so far unable to reproduce and reports are rather of broken/misinstalled systems for a variety of reasons :( | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - finished removing net-tools from seeds; left with figuring out the future of ubuntu-core-libs to complete the removal of net-tools in favor of iproute2 | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - filed bugs for files in /etc that don't belong there (UC20) | 15:04 |
cyphermox | - NM plugin work | 15:04 |
cyphermox | (done) | 15:04 |
infinity | * Released the Ermines. | 15:05 |
infinity | * Opened Focal in LP, snakefruit, cdimage, etc. | 15:05 |
infinity | * Fixed a bnuch of FTBFS bugs to move perl along. | 15:05 |
infinity | * Working on the last bits of the perl transition. | 15:05 |
infinity | (done) | 15:05 |
bdmurray | release sprint! | 15:05 |
bdmurray | manager stuff | 15:05 |
bdmurray | xnox: | 15:05 |
xnox | Uploaded casper with UUID validation fix for netboot and linux overlay bug reproducer. TODO investigate/fix autopkgtest | 15:06 |
xnox | Working on cleaning up pc-amd64-gadget snap, and building it for the core20 | 15:06 |
xnox | Working with snapcraft team to get core20 into snapcraft (committed) | 15:06 |
xnox | Filed lp bug against lp to get core20 enabled | 15:06 |
xnox | Roundtrip gcc-9 bumping ISA to z13 with IBM w.r.t. Testsuite regression analysis. They will work on improving it, and we are good to bump ISA to z13 | 15:06 |
xnox | Send linux config change patch to bump ISA to z13 | 15:06 |
xnox | Uploaded s390-tools SRU to bionic to fix two bugs | 15:06 |
xnox | Uploaded opencryptoki | 15:06 |
xnox | Trianging numpy s390x failure with doko & mwhudson | 15:06 |
xnox | done | 15:06 |
cyphermox | xnox: casper uuid validation fix? | 15:06 |
* cyphermox goes to look at the diff instead | 15:06 | |
vorlon | * happy release! | 15:06 |
vorlon | * focusing on the fantastic fossa | 15:06 |
vorlon | * helping burn down the autopkgtest regressions to get perl 5.30 in for archive opening | 15:06 |
vorlon | * roadmap for 20.04 | 15:07 |
vorlon | * debugging various idiosyncratic issues on my laptop after upgrade to eoan | 15:07 |
vorlon | (done) | 15:07 |
xnox | cyphermox: so, when doing netmount uuid was not checked to match; only when mounting usb sticks / cdrom / partitions it was checked. | 15:07 |
bdmurray | xnox: re s390-tools SRU does it need a review / queue jump? | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Release sprinting last week | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Poking peeps for some focal-related stuffs that needed to be done | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - SRU reviews and releases | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Kernel reviews | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Looking through multiverse package licenses | 15:07 |
cyphermox | ahhh | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Meeting with snapd guys regarding uc20 ubuntu-image changes | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Modifying the uc20 ubuntu-image support branch with some additional changes, fixing merge conflicts | 15:07 |
sil2100 | * Will be landing this after a formal ACK from Michael on the spec | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Backporting various missing livecd-rootfs bits to bionic | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Almost finished the sanity-report for langpack sanity testing | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Modified core promotion scripts to take the new snapd-team core18 edge testing into consideration | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Poking around regarding the linux-hwe FTBFS against the security-enabled gcc-5 no-change-rebuild | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - DMB meeting | 15:07 |
sil2100 | - Discussing ESM autopkgtest feasibility | 15:07 |
sil2100 | (done) | 15:07 |
xnox | bdmurray: IBM will appreciate if it is bumped | 15:07 |
tdaitx | * OpenJDK 8 & 11 security update | 15:07 |
tdaitx | - package & upload for Xenial (8 only), Bionic, Disco, and Eoan | 15:07 |
tdaitx | - no regressions found on all archs/releases | 15:07 |
tdaitx | * whoopsie & apport security fixes | 15:07 |
tdaitx | - backports to xenial, bionic, disco | 15:07 |
tdaitx | - testing each vulnerability (and retesting eoan + focal after release) | 15:07 |
tdaitx | Other: | 15:07 |
tdaitx | - need to upgrade to focal | 15:08 |
tdaitx | (done) | 15:08 |
rbalint | (short week after release week) | 15:08 |
rbalint | * Debian uploads: p8-platform, unattended-upgrades 1.15 | 15:08 |
rbalint | * updated wslu to 2.3.2, also adding autopkgtest | 15:08 |
bdmurray | Is there somebody who can review s390-tools then? | 15:08 |
rbalint | * tested Eoan install, filed LP: #184852 | 15:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 184852 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) ""dpkg-reconfigure --all" invokes update-initramfs(8) multiple times" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184852 | 15:08 |
rbalint | * unattended-upgrades fixes and SRUs | 15:08 |
rbalint | * libevent transition releated fixes | 15:08 |
rbalint | * uploaded systemd 243-2ubuntu1, waiting for archive opening | 15:08 |
rbalint | (done) | 15:08 |
waveform | * Reported / worked on Pi 3A+ boot issue; LP: #1848247 | 15:08 |
waveform | * Reported / worked on Pi 4 arm64 USB issue; LP: #1848790 | 15:08 |
waveform | * Worked on SRUs for Pi 4 boot support on Bionic: | 15:08 |
waveform | - flash-kernel (package prepped, tested) | 15:08 |
waveform | - u-boot-rpi (ongoing) | 15:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1848247 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "3A+ boot failure on Eoan" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848247 | 15:08 |
waveform | - linux-firmware-raspi2 (package prepped, testing ongoing) | 15:08 |
waveform | - kernel (awaiting) | 15:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1848790 in linux-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "USB not working under arm64 on Pi4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848790 | 15:08 |
waveform | - base image (investigating) | 15:08 |
waveform | * Updated RaspberryPi wiki page with Eoan details | 15:08 |
waveform | (done) | 15:08 |
bdmurray | Any questions regarding status? | 15:09 |
bdmurray | sil2100: Can you review s390-tools? | 15:10 |
sil2100 | bdmurray: sure | 15:10 |
bdmurray | sil2100: thanks | 15:11 |
sil2100 | bdmurray: which series? d/b? | 15:11 |
sil2100 | Ah, b | 15:11 |
bdmurray | xnox: ^^ | 15:11 |
sil2100 | Will do that during the meeting | 15:11 |
bdmurray | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:11 |
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xnox | sil2100: b for one d/e/f for another | 15:11 |
xnox | (s390-tools & opencryptoki respectevly) | 15:12 |
bdmurray | seb128: Do you have any idea on how to separate foundations ubiquity bugs from desktop ones? e.g. bug 1847719. | 15:13 |
ubottu | bug 1847719 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "zfs "Write to change disks" message prints that an ext4 partition will be created" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847719 | 15:13 |
bdmurray | bug 1844805 seems worth fixing and is rather easy | 15:13 |
ubottu | bug 1844805 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "virtualbox, virtualbox-dkms, virtualbox-qt fail during upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1844805 | 15:13 |
seb128 | bdmurray, tagging I guess? | 15:14 |
bdmurray | seb128: zfs-something-something | 15:14 |
infinity | I mean, it's telling the truth. It creates an ext4 partition, then deletes it. :P | 15:14 |
xnox | "foundations-not-it" and "desktop-not-it" | 15:14 |
sil2100 | bdmurray: I could take a look at tackling the u-r-u one | 15:14 |
infinity | I'm still curious about why it doesn't use partman-zfs. | 15:14 |
bdmurray | sil2100: great, I guess you knew I was gonna volunteer you | 15:15 |
xnox | yeah, cause then it could have "reorganize zfs pools" rather than "transform ext4" | 15:15 |
seb128 | bdmurray, 'zfs' seems to exist as a tag/being used today | 15:15 |
bdmurray | sil2100: because its do-release-upgrade it will need SRU'ing to disco - its not part of the tarball | 15:15 |
sil2100 | hm, ok | 15:16 |
sil2100 | Is this carded already? ;) | 15:16 |
bdmurray | doko: have you seen bug 1848211? | 15:16 |
ubottu | bug 1848211 in valgrind (Ubuntu) "valgrind fails to use debug symbols from glib/gtk" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848211 | 15:16 |
xnox | ubiquity could re-wrtie debconf template to say zfs, although ext4 is used =) | 15:16 |
bdmurray | sil2100: I will card it and give it to you | 15:16 |
sil2100 | bdmurray: thanks! | 15:19 |
bdmurray | seb128: let's just use zfs then | 15:19 |
bdmurray | Okay, we will card the valgrind issue and get it worked on. | 15:21 |
bdmurray | Is there anybody interested in learning more about apport and whoopsie? | 15:21 |
bdmurray | bug 1848064 | 15:21 |
ubottu | bug 1848064 in apport (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all@168:collect_info:process_report" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848064 | 15:21 |
bdmurray | I've moved to rls-ee-incoming | 15:22 |
bdmurray | waveform: ^? | 15:23 |
waveform | bdmurray, I can take a look | 15:23 |
bdmurray | waveform: okay, I'm happy to help if you want to meet later today. | 15:23 |
bdmurray | cyphermox: Since we've some experience culling bug lists - would you mind helping me with rls-ee? | 15:24 |
bdmurray | rls-bb has bug 1848880 | 15:24 |
ubottu | bug 1848880 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Server 18.04.3 OEM Install option doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848880 | 15:24 |
bdmurray | Is there somebody who can test that to see if it is accurate? | 15:25 |
bdmurray | Specifically "oem-config-prepare" not being found | 15:25 |
bdmurray | cyphermox: ^? | 15:26 |
cyphermox | sure | 15:27 |
cyphermox | oem-config-prepare not found is... weird | 15:27 |
bdmurray | seb128: it's rls-x-incoming. ;-) I went to rls-xx-incoming report so made the same mistake! | 15:27 |
bdmurray | bug 1849004 | 15:28 |
ubottu | bug 1849004 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager stop to load update descriptions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849004 | 15:28 |
seb128 | bdmurray, ahah, thx for pointing it out! | 15:28 |
bdmurray | it looks like there might even be a fix in that update-manager bug | 15:29 |
bdmurray | I'll go ahead and card that and we can sort it out later. | 15:29 |
bdmurray | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:30 |
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bdmurray | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:33 |
bdmurray | We've agreed to just start tackling the issues on that list. | 15:34 |
bdmurray | And we'll coordinate the things on which we are working in #ubuntu-devel. | 15:35 |
cyphermox | not -release? | 15:36 |
bdmurray | cyphermox: I think #ubuntu-devel has more people on it. | 15:36 |
cyphermox | ack | 15:37 |
rbalint | if something is to be stuck in -proposed longer you can record your observation in a but and mark it with 'update-excuse' tag | 15:37 |
cyphermox | yup :) | 15:37 |
rbalint | bugg | 15:37 |
sil2100 | rbalint: let's get that documented somewhere for people to easily access, maybe the promosed-migration wiki page? | 15:37 |
bdmurray | and then what happens with 'update-excuse' does it show up on the report? | 15:37 |
cyphermox | rbalint: that would be a good blog post | 15:38 |
cyphermox | (and we can retweet and whatnot ;) | 15:38 |
rbalint | bugs with 'update-excuse' show up on update_excuses.html | 15:38 |
rbalint | cyphermox, thanks, will write that post | 15:38 |
bdmurray | There also used to be "Public Service Announcement" emails to ubuntu-devel | 15:38 |
cyphermox | cool | 15:38 |
bdmurray | I think those would be good to bring back. | 15:39 |
cyphermox | discourse topic on coordinating proposed work? | 15:39 |
bdmurray | cyphermox: a discourse topic on what? | 15:39 |
cyphermox | I'm suggesting using a discourse topic on meta-discussing how to prioritize | 15:40 |
vorlon | no thank you | 15:40 |
cyphermox | ie: is there more we can do that using a bug tag? any other tech tools we can build to help | 15:40 |
cyphermox | and discourse topic is interchangeable with mailing list thread. | 15:41 |
rbalint | cyphermox, changing nick to name_working_on_foo :-) | 15:41 |
cyphermox | yuck | 15:41 |
bdmurray | I think before solving a problem we should keep track of how often the problem happens. | 15:41 |
vorlon | discourse is way too heavy weight, the state of -proposed changes hourly | 15:41 |
sil2100 | I'd still like it added to the wiki page | 15:41 |
cyphermox | I'm specifically not talking about the coordination itself | 15:41 |
vorlon | oh | 15:41 |
sil2100 | I mean, how to use the tag of course | 15:41 |
vorlon | ok | 15:41 |
cyphermox | about the process of coordinating | 15:41 |
bdmurray | So let's keep track of how often we have the duplicated effort. | 15:42 |
cyphermox | ie. how we can improve, if things go wrong, postmortem ,etc. | 15:42 |
bdmurray | Let's move on. | 15:42 |
sil2100 | cyphermox: sounds good | 15:43 |
bdmurray | #topic AOB | 15:44 |
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bdmurray | I'd like to move this meeting to 30 minutes earlier. | 15:44 |
infinity | bdmurray: -12 | 15:44 |
cyphermox | no opinion | 15:45 |
bdmurray | Okay, I don't want to lose anybody and we've had this slot for a long time. | 15:46 |
bdmurray | Anything else? | 15:46 |
bdmurray | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Oct 24 15:47:44 2019 UTC. | 15:47 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-10-24-15.02.moin.txt | 15:47 |
sil2100 | bdmurray: thanks! | 15:49 |
vorlon | thanks, all | 15:51 |
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