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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Oct 24 15:02:16 2019 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
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bdmurray#topic Lightning rounds15:02
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bdmurraydoko mwhudson cyphermox infinity bdmurray xnox vorlon sil2100 tdaitx rbalint waveform15:03
bdmurraydoko:15:03
doko* archive opening & python3.815:04
doko(done)15:04
xnoxnice15:04
bdmurraycyphermox:15:04
cyphermox- shim reviews: Oracle, CentOS, zkey (in progress)15:04
cyphermox- submitted our own new shim for review15:04
cyphermox- discussing shim reviewing processes with Microsoft, shim-review community15:04
cyphermox- preparing unicode-data SRUs15:04
cyphermox- got context back from Julian about grub chainloading of bootctl-based binaries15:04
cyphermox- spec updates for UC20 plugin and openvswitch15:04
cyphermox- more debugging on reports of Windows chainloading issues; so far unable to reproduce and reports are rather of broken/misinstalled systems for a variety of reasons :(15:04
cyphermox- finished removing net-tools from seeds; left with figuring out the future of ubuntu-core-libs to complete the removal of net-tools in favor of iproute215:04
cyphermox- filed bugs for files in /etc that don't belong there (UC20)15:04
cyphermox- NM plugin work15:04
cyphermox(done)15:04
infinity * Released the Ermines.15:05
infinity * Opened Focal in LP, snakefruit, cdimage, etc.15:05
infinity * Fixed a bnuch of FTBFS bugs to move perl along.15:05
infinity * Working on the last bits of the perl transition.15:05
infinity(done)15:05
bdmurrayrelease sprint!15:05
bdmurraymanager stuff15:05
bdmurrayxnox:15:05
xnoxUploaded casper with UUID validation fix for netboot and linux overlay bug reproducer. TODO investigate/fix autopkgtest15:06
xnoxWorking on cleaning up pc-amd64-gadget snap, and building it for the core2015:06
xnoxWorking with snapcraft team to get core20 into snapcraft (committed)15:06
xnoxFiled lp bug against lp to get core20 enabled15:06
xnoxRoundtrip gcc-9 bumping ISA to z13 with IBM w.r.t. Testsuite regression analysis. They will work on improving it, and we are good to bump ISA to z1315:06
xnoxSend linux config change patch to bump ISA to z1315:06
xnoxUploaded s390-tools SRU to bionic to fix two bugs15:06
xnoxUploaded opencryptoki15:06
xnoxTrianging numpy s390x failure with doko & mwhudson15:06
xnoxdone15:06
cyphermoxxnox: casper uuid validation fix?15:06
* cyphermox goes to look at the diff instead15:06
vorlon * happy release!15:06
vorlon * focusing on the fantastic fossa15:06
vorlon * helping burn down the autopkgtest regressions to get perl 5.30 in for archive opening15:06
vorlon * roadmap for 20.0415:07
vorlon * debugging various idiosyncratic issues on my laptop after upgrade to eoan15:07
vorlon(done)15:07
xnoxcyphermox:  so, when doing netmount uuid was not checked to match; only when mounting usb sticks / cdrom / partitions it was checked.15:07
bdmurrayxnox: re s390-tools SRU does it need a review / queue jump?15:07
sil2100- Release sprinting last week15:07
sil2100- Poking peeps for some focal-related stuffs that needed to be done15:07
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:07
sil2100- Kernel reviews15:07
sil2100- Looking through multiverse package licenses15:07
cyphermoxahhh15:07
sil2100- Meeting with snapd guys regarding uc20 ubuntu-image changes15:07
sil2100- Modifying the uc20 ubuntu-image support branch with some additional changes, fixing merge conflicts15:07
sil2100  * Will be landing this after a formal ACK from Michael on the spec15:07
sil2100- Backporting various missing livecd-rootfs bits to bionic15:07
sil2100- Almost finished the sanity-report for langpack sanity testing15:07
sil2100- Modified core promotion scripts to take the new snapd-team core18 edge testing into consideration15:07
sil2100- Poking around regarding the linux-hwe FTBFS against the security-enabled gcc-5 no-change-rebuild15:07
sil2100- DMB meeting15:07
sil2100- Discussing ESM autopkgtest feasibility15:07
sil2100(done)15:07
xnoxbdmurray:  IBM will appreciate if it is bumped15:07
tdaitx* OpenJDK 8 & 11 security update15:07
tdaitx  - package & upload for Xenial (8 only), Bionic, Disco, and Eoan15:07
tdaitx  - no regressions found on all archs/releases15:07
tdaitx* whoopsie & apport security fixes15:07
tdaitx  - backports to xenial, bionic, disco15:07
tdaitx  - testing each vulnerability (and retesting eoan + focal after release)15:07
tdaitxOther:15:07
tdaitx- need to upgrade to focal15:08
tdaitx(done)15:08
rbalint(short week after release week)15:08
rbalint* Debian uploads: p8-platform, unattended-upgrades 1.1515:08
rbalint* updated wslu to 2.3.2, also adding autopkgtest15:08
bdmurrayIs there somebody who can review s390-tools then?15:08
rbalint* tested Eoan install, filed LP: #18485215:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 184852 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) ""dpkg-reconfigure --all" invokes update-initramfs(8) multiple times" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18485215:08
rbalint* unattended-upgrades fixes and SRUs15:08
rbalint* libevent transition releated fixes15:08
rbalint* uploaded systemd 243-2ubuntu1, waiting for archive opening15:08
rbalint(done)15:08
waveform* Reported / worked on Pi 3A+ boot issue; LP: #184824715:08
waveform* Reported / worked on Pi 4 arm64 USB issue; LP: #184879015:08
waveform* Worked on SRUs for Pi 4 boot support on Bionic:15:08
waveform- flash-kernel (package prepped, tested)15:08
waveform- u-boot-rpi (ongoing)15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1848247 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "3A+ boot failure on Eoan" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184824715:08
waveform- linux-firmware-raspi2 (package prepped, testing ongoing)15:08
waveform- kernel (awaiting)15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1848790 in linux-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "USB not working under arm64 on Pi4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184879015:08
waveform- base image (investigating)15:08
waveform* Updated RaspberryPi wiki page with Eoan details15:08
waveform(done)15:08
bdmurrayAny questions regarding status?15:09
bdmurraysil2100: Can you review s390-tools?15:10
sil2100bdmurray: sure15:10
bdmurraysil2100: thanks15:11
sil2100bdmurray: which series? d/b?15:11
sil2100Ah, b15:11
bdmurrayxnox: ^^15:11
sil2100Will do that during the meeting15:11
bdmurray#topic Release incoming bugs15:11
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xnoxsil2100:  b for one d/e/f for another15:11
xnox(s390-tools & opencryptoki respectevly)15:12
bdmurrayseb128: Do you have any idea on how to separate foundations ubiquity bugs from desktop ones? e.g. bug 1847719.15:13
ubottubug 1847719 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "zfs "Write to change disks" message prints that an ext4 partition will be created" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184771915:13
bdmurraybug 1844805 seems worth fixing and is rather easy15:13
ubottubug 1844805 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "virtualbox, virtualbox-dkms, virtualbox-qt fail during upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184480515:13
seb128bdmurray, tagging I guess?15:14
bdmurrayseb128: zfs-something-something15:14
infinityI mean, it's telling the truth.  It creates an ext4 partition, then deletes it. :P15:14
xnox"foundations-not-it" and "desktop-not-it"15:14
sil2100bdmurray: I could take a look at tackling the u-r-u one15:14
infinityI'm still curious about why it doesn't use partman-zfs.15:14
bdmurraysil2100: great, I guess you knew I was gonna volunteer you15:15
xnoxyeah, cause then it could have "reorganize zfs pools" rather than "transform ext4"15:15
seb128bdmurray, 'zfs' seems to exist as a tag/being used today15:15
bdmurraysil2100: because its do-release-upgrade it will need SRU'ing to disco - its not part of the tarball15:15
sil2100hm, ok15:16
sil2100Is this carded already? ;)15:16
bdmurraydoko: have you seen bug 1848211?15:16
ubottubug 1848211 in valgrind (Ubuntu) "valgrind fails to use debug symbols from glib/gtk" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184821115:16
xnoxubiquity could re-wrtie debconf template to say zfs, although ext4 is used =)15:16
bdmurraysil2100: I will card it and give it to you15:16
sil2100bdmurray: thanks!15:19
bdmurrayseb128: let's just use zfs then15:19
bdmurrayOkay, we will card the valgrind issue and get it worked on.15:21
bdmurrayIs there anybody interested in learning more about apport and whoopsie?15:21
bdmurraybug 184806415:21
ubottubug 1848064 in apport (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all@168:collect_info:process_report" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184806415:21
bdmurrayI've moved to rls-ee-incoming15:22
bdmurraywaveform: ^?15:23
waveformbdmurray, I can take a look15:23
bdmurraywaveform: okay, I'm happy to help if you want to meet later today.15:23
bdmurraycyphermox: Since we've some experience culling bug lists - would you mind helping me with rls-ee?15:24
bdmurrayrls-bb has bug 184888015:24
ubottubug 1848880 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Server 18.04.3 OEM Install option doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184888015:24
bdmurrayIs there somebody who can test that to see if it is accurate?15:25
bdmurraySpecifically "oem-config-prepare" not being found15:25
bdmurraycyphermox: ^?15:26
cyphermoxsure15:27
cyphermoxoem-config-prepare not found is... weird15:27
bdmurrayseb128: it's rls-x-incoming. ;-) I went to rls-xx-incoming report so made the same mistake!15:27
bdmurraybug 184900415:28
ubottubug 1849004 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager stop to load update descriptions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184900415:28
seb128bdmurray, ahah, thx for pointing it out!15:28
bdmurrayit looks like there might even be a fix in that update-manager bug15:29
bdmurrayI'll go ahead and card that and we can sort it out later.15:29
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report15:30
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bdmurrayhttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:33
bdmurrayWe've agreed to just start tackling the issues on that list.15:34
bdmurrayAnd we'll coordinate the things on which we are working in #ubuntu-devel.15:35
cyphermoxnot -release?15:36
bdmurraycyphermox: I think #ubuntu-devel has more people on it.15:36
cyphermoxack15:37
rbalintif something is to be stuck in -proposed longer you can record your observation in a but and mark it with 'update-excuse' tag15:37
cyphermoxyup :)15:37
rbalintbugg15:37
sil2100rbalint: let's get that documented somewhere for people to easily access, maybe the promosed-migration wiki page?15:37
bdmurrayand then what happens with 'update-excuse' does it show up on the report?15:37
cyphermoxrbalint: that would be a good blog post15:38
cyphermox(and we can retweet and whatnot ;)15:38
rbalintbugs with 'update-excuse' show up on update_excuses.html15:38
rbalintcyphermox, thanks, will write that post15:38
bdmurrayThere also used to be "Public Service Announcement" emails to ubuntu-devel15:38
cyphermoxcool15:38
bdmurrayI think those would be good to bring back.15:39
cyphermoxdiscourse topic on coordinating proposed work?15:39
bdmurraycyphermox: a discourse topic on what?15:39
cyphermoxI'm suggesting using a discourse topic on meta-discussing how to prioritize15:40
vorlonno thank you15:40
cyphermoxie: is there more we can do that using a bug tag? any other tech tools we can build to help15:40
cyphermoxand discourse topic is interchangeable with mailing list thread.15:41
rbalintcyphermox, changing nick to name_working_on_foo :-)15:41
cyphermoxyuck15:41
bdmurrayI think before solving a problem we should keep track of how often the problem happens.15:41
vorlondiscourse is way too heavy weight, the state of -proposed changes hourly15:41
sil2100I'd still like it added to the wiki page15:41
cyphermoxI'm specifically not talking about the coordination itself15:41
vorlonoh15:41
sil2100I mean, how to use the tag of course15:41
vorlonok15:41
cyphermoxabout the process of coordinating15:41
bdmurraySo let's keep track of how often we have the duplicated effort.15:42
cyphermoxie. how we can improve, if things go wrong, postmortem ,etc.15:42
bdmurrayLet's move on.15:42
sil2100cyphermox: sounds good15:43
bdmurray#topic AOB15:44
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bdmurrayI'd like to move this meeting to 30 minutes earlier.15:44
infinitybdmurray: -1215:44
cyphermoxno opinion15:45
bdmurrayOkay, I don't want to lose anybody and we've had this slot for a long time.15:46
bdmurrayAnything else?15:46
bdmurray#endmeeting15:47
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Oct 24 15:47:44 2019 UTC.15:47
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-10-24-15.02.moin.txt15:47
sil2100bdmurray: thanks!15:49
vorlonthanks, all15:51

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