[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <cyphermox> o/
[15:01] <rbalint> o/
[15:01] <infinity> \o
[15:01] <waveform> o/
[15:02] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Oct 24 15:02:16 2019 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:02] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:03] <bdmurray> doko mwhudson cyphermox infinity bdmurray xnox vorlon sil2100 tdaitx rbalint waveform
[15:03] <bdmurray> doko:
[15:04] <doko> * archive opening & python3.8
[15:04] <doko> (done)
[15:04] <xnox> nice
[15:04] <bdmurray> cyphermox:
[15:04] <cyphermox> - shim reviews: Oracle, CentOS, zkey (in progress)
[15:04] <cyphermox> - submitted our own new shim for review
[15:04] <cyphermox> - discussing shim reviewing processes with Microsoft, shim-review community
[15:04] <cyphermox> - preparing unicode-data SRUs
[15:04] <cyphermox> - got context back from Julian about grub chainloading of bootctl-based binaries
[15:04] <cyphermox> - spec updates for UC20 plugin and openvswitch
[15:04] <cyphermox> - more debugging on reports of Windows chainloading issues; so far unable to reproduce and reports are rather of broken/misinstalled systems for a variety of reasons :(
[15:04] <cyphermox> - finished removing net-tools from seeds; left with figuring out the future of ubuntu-core-libs to complete the removal of net-tools in favor of iproute2
[15:04] <cyphermox> - filed bugs for files in /etc that don't belong there (UC20)
[15:04] <cyphermox> - NM plugin work
[15:04] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:05] <infinity>  * Released the Ermines.
[15:05] <infinity>  * Opened Focal in LP, snakefruit, cdimage, etc.
[15:05] <infinity>  * Fixed a bnuch of FTBFS bugs to move perl along.
[15:05] <infinity>  * Working on the last bits of the perl transition.
[15:05] <infinity> (done)
[15:05] <bdmurray> release sprint!
[15:05] <bdmurray> manager stuff
[15:05] <bdmurray> xnox:
[15:06] <xnox> Uploaded casper with UUID validation fix for netboot and linux overlay bug reproducer. TODO investigate/fix autopkgtest
[15:06] <xnox> Working on cleaning up pc-amd64-gadget snap, and building it for the core20
[15:06] <xnox> Working with snapcraft team to get core20 into snapcraft (committed)
[15:06] <xnox> Filed lp bug against lp to get core20 enabled
[15:06] <xnox> Roundtrip gcc-9 bumping ISA to z13 with IBM w.r.t. Testsuite regression analysis. They will work on improving it, and we are good to bump ISA to z13
[15:06] <xnox> Send linux config change patch to bump ISA to z13
[15:06] <xnox> Uploaded s390-tools SRU to bionic to fix two bugs
[15:06] <xnox> Uploaded opencryptoki
[15:06] <xnox> Trianging numpy s390x failure with doko & mwhudson
[15:06] <xnox> done
[15:06] <cyphermox> xnox: casper uuid validation fix?
[15:06]  * cyphermox goes to look at the diff instead
[15:06] <vorlon>  * happy release!
[15:06] <vorlon>  * focusing on the fantastic fossa
[15:06] <vorlon>  * helping burn down the autopkgtest regressions to get perl 5.30 in for archive opening
[15:07] <vorlon>  * roadmap for 20.04
[15:07] <vorlon>  * debugging various idiosyncratic issues on my laptop after upgrade to eoan
[15:07] <vorlon> (done)
[15:07] <xnox> cyphermox:  so, when doing netmount uuid was not checked to match; only when mounting usb sticks / cdrom / partitions it was checked.
[15:07] <bdmurray> xnox: re s390-tools SRU does it need a review / queue jump?
[15:07] <sil2100> - Release sprinting last week
[15:07] <sil2100> - Poking peeps for some focal-related stuffs that needed to be done
[15:07] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:07] <sil2100> - Kernel reviews
[15:07] <sil2100> - Looking through multiverse package licenses
[15:07] <cyphermox> ahhh
[15:07] <sil2100> - Meeting with snapd guys regarding uc20 ubuntu-image changes
[15:07] <sil2100> - Modifying the uc20 ubuntu-image support branch with some additional changes, fixing merge conflicts
[15:07] <sil2100>   * Will be landing this after a formal ACK from Michael on the spec
[15:07] <sil2100> - Backporting various missing livecd-rootfs bits to bionic
[15:07] <sil2100> - Almost finished the sanity-report for langpack sanity testing
[15:07] <sil2100> - Modified core promotion scripts to take the new snapd-team core18 edge testing into consideration
[15:07] <sil2100> - Poking around regarding the linux-hwe FTBFS against the security-enabled gcc-5 no-change-rebuild
[15:07] <sil2100> - DMB meeting
[15:07] <sil2100> - Discussing ESM autopkgtest feasibility
[15:07] <sil2100> (done)
[15:07] <xnox> bdmurray:  IBM will appreciate if it is bumped
[15:07] <tdaitx> * OpenJDK 8 & 11 security update
[15:07] <tdaitx>   - package & upload for Xenial (8 only), Bionic, Disco, and Eoan
[15:07] <tdaitx>   - no regressions found on all archs/releases
[15:07] <tdaitx> * whoopsie & apport security fixes
[15:07] <tdaitx>   - backports to xenial, bionic, disco
[15:07] <tdaitx>   - testing each vulnerability (and retesting eoan + focal after release)
[15:07] <tdaitx> Other:
[15:08] <tdaitx> - need to upgrade to focal
[15:08] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:08] <rbalint> (short week after release week)
[15:08] <rbalint> * Debian uploads: p8-platform, unattended-upgrades 1.15
[15:08] <rbalint> * updated wslu to 2.3.2, also adding autopkgtest
[15:08] <bdmurray> Is there somebody who can review s390-tools then?
[15:08] <rbalint> * tested Eoan install, filed LP: #184852
[15:08] <rbalint> * unattended-upgrades fixes and SRUs
[15:08] <rbalint> * libevent transition releated fixes
[15:08] <rbalint> * uploaded systemd 243-2ubuntu1, waiting for archive opening
[15:08] <rbalint> (done)
[15:08] <waveform> * Reported / worked on Pi 3A+ boot issue; LP: #1848247
[15:08] <waveform> * Reported / worked on Pi 4 arm64 USB issue; LP: #1848790
[15:08] <waveform> * Worked on SRUs for Pi 4 boot support on Bionic:
[15:08] <waveform> - flash-kernel (package prepped, tested)
[15:08] <waveform> - u-boot-rpi (ongoing)
[15:08] <waveform> - linux-firmware-raspi2 (package prepped, testing ongoing)
[15:08] <waveform> - kernel (awaiting)
[15:08] <waveform> - base image (investigating)
[15:08] <waveform> * Updated RaspberryPi wiki page with Eoan details
[15:08] <waveform> (done)
[15:09] <bdmurray> Any questions regarding status?
[15:10] <bdmurray> sil2100: Can you review s390-tools?
[15:10] <sil2100> bdmurray: sure
[15:11] <bdmurray> sil2100: thanks
[15:11] <sil2100> bdmurray: which series? d/b?
[15:11] <sil2100> Ah, b
[15:11] <bdmurray> xnox: ^^
[15:11] <sil2100> Will do that during the meeting
[15:11] <bdmurray> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:11] <xnox> sil2100:  b for one d/e/f for another
[15:12] <xnox> (s390-tools & opencryptoki respectevly)
[15:13] <bdmurray> seb128: Do you have any idea on how to separate foundations ubiquity bugs from desktop ones? e.g. bug 1847719.
[15:13] <bdmurray> bug 1844805 seems worth fixing and is rather easy
[15:14] <seb128> bdmurray, tagging I guess?
[15:14] <bdmurray> seb128: zfs-something-something
[15:14] <infinity> I mean, it's telling the truth.  It creates an ext4 partition, then deletes it. :P
[15:14] <xnox> "foundations-not-it" and "desktop-not-it"
[15:14] <sil2100> bdmurray: I could take a look at tackling the u-r-u one
[15:14] <infinity> I'm still curious about why it doesn't use partman-zfs.
[15:15] <bdmurray> sil2100: great, I guess you knew I was gonna volunteer you
[15:15] <xnox> yeah, cause then it could have "reorganize zfs pools" rather than "transform ext4"
[15:15] <seb128> bdmurray, 'zfs' seems to exist as a tag/being used today
[15:15] <bdmurray> sil2100: because its do-release-upgrade it will need SRU'ing to disco - its not part of the tarball
[15:16] <sil2100> hm, ok
[15:16] <sil2100> Is this carded already? ;)
[15:16] <bdmurray> doko: have you seen bug 1848211?
[15:16] <xnox> ubiquity could re-wrtie debconf template to say zfs, although ext4 is used =)
[15:16] <bdmurray> sil2100: I will card it and give it to you
[15:19] <sil2100> bdmurray: thanks!
[15:19] <bdmurray> seb128: let's just use zfs then
[15:21] <bdmurray> Okay, we will card the valgrind issue and get it worked on.
[15:21] <bdmurray> Is there anybody interested in learning more about apport and whoopsie?
[15:21] <bdmurray> bug 1848064
[15:22] <bdmurray> I've moved to rls-ee-incoming
[15:23] <bdmurray> waveform: ^?
[15:23] <waveform> bdmurray, I can take a look
[15:23] <bdmurray> waveform: okay, I'm happy to help if you want to meet later today.
[15:24] <bdmurray> cyphermox: Since we've some experience culling bug lists - would you mind helping me with rls-ee?
[15:24] <bdmurray> rls-bb has bug 1848880
[15:25] <bdmurray> Is there somebody who can test that to see if it is accurate?
[15:25] <bdmurray> Specifically "oem-config-prepare" not being found
[15:26] <bdmurray> cyphermox: ^?
[15:27] <cyphermox> sure
[15:27] <cyphermox> oem-config-prepare not found is... weird
[15:27] <bdmurray> seb128: it's rls-x-incoming. ;-) I went to rls-xx-incoming report so made the same mistake!
[15:28] <bdmurray> bug 1849004
[15:28] <seb128> bdmurray, ahah, thx for pointing it out!
[15:29] <bdmurray> it looks like there might even be a fix in that update-manager bug
[15:29] <bdmurray> I'll go ahead and card that and we can sort it out later.
[15:30] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:33] <bdmurray> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:34] <bdmurray> We've agreed to just start tackling the issues on that list.
[15:35] <bdmurray> And we'll coordinate the things on which we are working in #ubuntu-devel.
[15:36] <cyphermox> not -release?
[15:36] <bdmurray> cyphermox: I think #ubuntu-devel has more people on it.
[15:37] <cyphermox> ack
[15:37] <rbalint> if something is to be stuck in -proposed longer you can record your observation in a but and mark it with 'update-excuse' tag
[15:37] <cyphermox> yup :)
[15:37] <rbalint> bugg
[15:37] <sil2100> rbalint: let's get that documented somewhere for people to easily access, maybe the promosed-migration wiki page?
[15:37] <bdmurray> and then what happens with 'update-excuse' does it show up on the report?
[15:38] <cyphermox> rbalint: that would be a good blog post
[15:38] <cyphermox> (and we can retweet and whatnot ;)
[15:38] <rbalint> bugs with 'update-excuse' show up on update_excuses.html
[15:38] <rbalint> cyphermox, thanks, will write that post
[15:38] <bdmurray> There also used to be "Public Service Announcement" emails to ubuntu-devel
[15:38] <cyphermox> cool
[15:39] <bdmurray> I think those would be good to bring back.
[15:39] <cyphermox> discourse topic on coordinating proposed work?
[15:39] <bdmurray> cyphermox: a discourse topic on what?
[15:40] <cyphermox> I'm suggesting using a discourse topic on meta-discussing how to prioritize
[15:40] <vorlon> no thank you
[15:40] <cyphermox> ie: is there more we can do that using a bug tag? any other tech tools we can build to help
[15:41] <cyphermox> and discourse topic is interchangeable with mailing list thread.
[15:41] <rbalint> cyphermox, changing nick to name_working_on_foo :-)
[15:41] <cyphermox> yuck
[15:41] <bdmurray> I think before solving a problem we should keep track of how often the problem happens.
[15:41] <vorlon> discourse is way too heavy weight, the state of -proposed changes hourly
[15:41] <sil2100> I'd still like it added to the wiki page
[15:41] <cyphermox> I'm specifically not talking about the coordination itself
[15:41] <vorlon> oh
[15:41] <sil2100> I mean, how to use the tag of course
[15:41] <vorlon> ok
[15:41] <cyphermox> about the process of coordinating
[15:42] <bdmurray> So let's keep track of how often we have the duplicated effort.
[15:42] <cyphermox> ie. how we can improve, if things go wrong, postmortem ,etc.
[15:42] <bdmurray> Let's move on.
[15:43] <sil2100> cyphermox: sounds good
[15:44] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[15:44] <bdmurray> I'd like to move this meeting to 30 minutes earlier.
[15:44] <infinity> bdmurray: -12
[15:45] <cyphermox> no opinion
[15:46] <bdmurray> Okay, I don't want to lose anybody and we've had this slot for a long time.
[15:46] <bdmurray> Anything else?
[15:47] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[15:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Oct 24 15:47:44 2019 UTC.
[15:47] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-10-24-15.02.moin.txt
[15:49] <sil2100> bdmurray: thanks!
[15:51] <vorlon> thanks, all