=== not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [15:01] o/ [15:01] o/ [15:01] o/ [15:01] \o [15:01] o/ [15:02] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [15:02] Meeting started Thu Oct 24 15:02:16 2019 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:02] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: [15:02] #topic Lightning rounds === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Lightning rounds [15:03] doko mwhudson cyphermox infinity bdmurray xnox vorlon sil2100 tdaitx rbalint waveform [15:03] doko: [15:04] * archive opening & python3.8 [15:04] (done) [15:04] nice [15:04] cyphermox: [15:04] - shim reviews: Oracle, CentOS, zkey (in progress) [15:04] - submitted our own new shim for review [15:04] - discussing shim reviewing processes with Microsoft, shim-review community [15:04] - preparing unicode-data SRUs [15:04] - got context back from Julian about grub chainloading of bootctl-based binaries [15:04] - spec updates for UC20 plugin and openvswitch [15:04] - more debugging on reports of Windows chainloading issues; so far unable to reproduce and reports are rather of broken/misinstalled systems for a variety of reasons :( [15:04] - finished removing net-tools from seeds; left with figuring out the future of ubuntu-core-libs to complete the removal of net-tools in favor of iproute2 [15:04] - filed bugs for files in /etc that don't belong there (UC20) [15:04] - NM plugin work [15:04] (done) [15:05] * Released the Ermines. [15:05] * Opened Focal in LP, snakefruit, cdimage, etc. [15:05] * Fixed a bnuch of FTBFS bugs to move perl along. [15:05] * Working on the last bits of the perl transition. [15:05] (done) [15:05] release sprint! [15:05] manager stuff [15:05] xnox: [15:06] Uploaded casper with UUID validation fix for netboot and linux overlay bug reproducer. TODO investigate/fix autopkgtest [15:06] Working on cleaning up pc-amd64-gadget snap, and building it for the core20 [15:06] Working with snapcraft team to get core20 into snapcraft (committed) [15:06] Filed lp bug against lp to get core20 enabled [15:06] Roundtrip gcc-9 bumping ISA to z13 with IBM w.r.t. Testsuite regression analysis. They will work on improving it, and we are good to bump ISA to z13 [15:06] Send linux config change patch to bump ISA to z13 [15:06] Uploaded s390-tools SRU to bionic to fix two bugs [15:06] Uploaded opencryptoki [15:06] Trianging numpy s390x failure with doko & mwhudson [15:06] done [15:06] xnox: casper uuid validation fix? [15:06] * cyphermox goes to look at the diff instead [15:06] * happy release! [15:06] * focusing on the fantastic fossa [15:06] * helping burn down the autopkgtest regressions to get perl 5.30 in for archive opening [15:07] * roadmap for 20.04 [15:07] * debugging various idiosyncratic issues on my laptop after upgrade to eoan [15:07] (done) [15:07] cyphermox: so, when doing netmount uuid was not checked to match; only when mounting usb sticks / cdrom / partitions it was checked. [15:07] xnox: re s390-tools SRU does it need a review / queue jump? [15:07] - Release sprinting last week [15:07] - Poking peeps for some focal-related stuffs that needed to be done [15:07] - SRU reviews and releases [15:07] - Kernel reviews [15:07] - Looking through multiverse package licenses [15:07] ahhh [15:07] - Meeting with snapd guys regarding uc20 ubuntu-image changes [15:07] - Modifying the uc20 ubuntu-image support branch with some additional changes, fixing merge conflicts [15:07] * Will be landing this after a formal ACK from Michael on the spec [15:07] - Backporting various missing livecd-rootfs bits to bionic [15:07] - Almost finished the sanity-report for langpack sanity testing [15:07] - Modified core promotion scripts to take the new snapd-team core18 edge testing into consideration [15:07] - Poking around regarding the linux-hwe FTBFS against the security-enabled gcc-5 no-change-rebuild [15:07] - DMB meeting [15:07] - Discussing ESM autopkgtest feasibility [15:07] (done) [15:07] bdmurray: IBM will appreciate if it is bumped [15:07] * OpenJDK 8 & 11 security update [15:07] - package & upload for Xenial (8 only), Bionic, Disco, and Eoan [15:07] - no regressions found on all archs/releases [15:07] * whoopsie & apport security fixes [15:07] - backports to xenial, bionic, disco [15:07] - testing each vulnerability (and retesting eoan + focal after release) [15:07] Other: [15:08] - need to upgrade to focal [15:08] (done) [15:08] (short week after release week) [15:08] * Debian uploads: p8-platform, unattended-upgrades 1.15 [15:08] * updated wslu to 2.3.2, also adding autopkgtest [15:08] Is there somebody who can review s390-tools then? [15:08] * tested Eoan install, filed LP: #184852 [15:08] Launchpad bug 184852 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) ""dpkg-reconfigure --all" invokes update-initramfs(8) multiple times" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184852 [15:08] * unattended-upgrades fixes and SRUs [15:08] * libevent transition releated fixes [15:08] * uploaded systemd 243-2ubuntu1, waiting for archive opening [15:08] (done) [15:08] * Reported / worked on Pi 3A+ boot issue; LP: #1848247 [15:08] * Reported / worked on Pi 4 arm64 USB issue; LP: #1848790 [15:08] * Worked on SRUs for Pi 4 boot support on Bionic: [15:08] - flash-kernel (package prepped, tested) [15:08] - u-boot-rpi (ongoing) [15:08] Launchpad bug 1848247 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "3A+ boot failure on Eoan" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848247 [15:08] - linux-firmware-raspi2 (package prepped, testing ongoing) [15:08] - kernel (awaiting) [15:08] Launchpad bug 1848790 in linux-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "USB not working under arm64 on Pi4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848790 [15:08] - base image (investigating) [15:08] * Updated RaspberryPi wiki page with Eoan details [15:08] (done) [15:09] Any questions regarding status? [15:10] sil2100: Can you review s390-tools? [15:10] bdmurray: sure [15:11] sil2100: thanks [15:11] bdmurray: which series? d/b? [15:11] Ah, b [15:11] xnox: ^^ [15:11] Will do that during the meeting [15:11] #topic Release incoming bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Release incoming bugs [15:11] sil2100: b for one d/e/f for another [15:12] (s390-tools & opencryptoki respectevly) [15:13] seb128: Do you have any idea on how to separate foundations ubiquity bugs from desktop ones? e.g. bug 1847719. [15:13] bug 1847719 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "zfs "Write to change disks" message prints that an ext4 partition will be created" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847719 [15:13] bug 1844805 seems worth fixing and is rather easy [15:13] bug 1844805 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "virtualbox, virtualbox-dkms, virtualbox-qt fail during upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1844805 [15:14] bdmurray, tagging I guess? [15:14] seb128: zfs-something-something [15:14] I mean, it's telling the truth. It creates an ext4 partition, then deletes it. :P [15:14] "foundations-not-it" and "desktop-not-it" [15:14] bdmurray: I could take a look at tackling the u-r-u one [15:14] I'm still curious about why it doesn't use partman-zfs. [15:15] sil2100: great, I guess you knew I was gonna volunteer you [15:15] yeah, cause then it could have "reorganize zfs pools" rather than "transform ext4" [15:15] bdmurray, 'zfs' seems to exist as a tag/being used today [15:15] sil2100: because its do-release-upgrade it will need SRU'ing to disco - its not part of the tarball [15:16] hm, ok [15:16] Is this carded already? ;) [15:16] doko: have you seen bug 1848211? [15:16] bug 1848211 in valgrind (Ubuntu) "valgrind fails to use debug symbols from glib/gtk" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848211 [15:16] ubiquity could re-wrtie debconf template to say zfs, although ext4 is used =) [15:16] sil2100: I will card it and give it to you [15:19] bdmurray: thanks! [15:19] seb128: let's just use zfs then [15:21] Okay, we will card the valgrind issue and get it worked on. [15:21] Is there anybody interested in learning more about apport and whoopsie? [15:21] bug 1848064 [15:21] bug 1848064 in apport (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all@168:collect_info:process_report" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848064 [15:22] I've moved to rls-ee-incoming [15:23] waveform: ^? [15:23] bdmurray, I can take a look [15:23] waveform: okay, I'm happy to help if you want to meet later today. [15:24] cyphermox: Since we've some experience culling bug lists - would you mind helping me with rls-ee? [15:24] rls-bb has bug 1848880 [15:24] bug 1848880 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Server 18.04.3 OEM Install option doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848880 [15:25] Is there somebody who can test that to see if it is accurate? [15:25] Specifically "oem-config-prepare" not being found [15:26] cyphermox: ^? [15:27] sure [15:27] oem-config-prepare not found is... weird [15:27] seb128: it's rls-x-incoming. ;-) I went to rls-xx-incoming report so made the same mistake! [15:28] bug 1849004 [15:28] bug 1849004 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager stop to load update descriptions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849004 [15:28] bdmurray, ahah, thx for pointing it out! [15:29] it looks like there might even be a fix in that update-manager bug [15:29] I'll go ahead and card that and we can sort it out later. [15:30] #topic Team proposed-migration report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Team proposed-migration report [15:33] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [15:34] We've agreed to just start tackling the issues on that list. [15:35] And we'll coordinate the things on which we are working in #ubuntu-devel. [15:36] not -release? [15:36] cyphermox: I think #ubuntu-devel has more people on it. [15:37] ack [15:37] if something is to be stuck in -proposed longer you can record your observation in a but and mark it with 'update-excuse' tag [15:37] yup :) [15:37] bugg [15:37] rbalint: let's get that documented somewhere for people to easily access, maybe the promosed-migration wiki page? [15:37] and then what happens with 'update-excuse' does it show up on the report? [15:38] rbalint: that would be a good blog post [15:38] (and we can retweet and whatnot ;) [15:38] bugs with 'update-excuse' show up on update_excuses.html [15:38] cyphermox, thanks, will write that post [15:38] There also used to be "Public Service Announcement" emails to ubuntu-devel [15:38] cool [15:39] I think those would be good to bring back. [15:39] discourse topic on coordinating proposed work? [15:39] cyphermox: a discourse topic on what? [15:40] I'm suggesting using a discourse topic on meta-discussing how to prioritize [15:40] no thank you [15:40] ie: is there more we can do that using a bug tag? any other tech tools we can build to help [15:41] and discourse topic is interchangeable with mailing list thread. [15:41] cyphermox, changing nick to name_working_on_foo :-) [15:41] yuck [15:41] I think before solving a problem we should keep track of how often the problem happens. [15:41] discourse is way too heavy weight, the state of -proposed changes hourly [15:41] I'd still like it added to the wiki page [15:41] I'm specifically not talking about the coordination itself [15:41] oh [15:41] I mean, how to use the tag of course [15:41] ok [15:41] about the process of coordinating [15:42] So let's keep track of how often we have the duplicated effort. [15:42] ie. how we can improve, if things go wrong, postmortem ,etc. [15:42] Let's move on. [15:43] cyphermox: sounds good [15:44] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: AOB [15:44] I'd like to move this meeting to 30 minutes earlier. [15:44] bdmurray: -12 [15:45] no opinion [15:46] Okay, I don't want to lose anybody and we've had this slot for a long time. [15:46] Anything else? [15:47] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [15:47] Meeting ended Thu Oct 24 15:47:44 2019 UTC. [15:47] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-10-24-15.02.moin.txt [15:49] bdmurray: thanks! [15:51] thanks, all