/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/10/24/#xubuntu.txt

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Regorusing "software" to install applications is terrible !  its slow/heavy/buggy 💀ī¸ .  packagekit runs in background always eating 140-165 mb ram even"software" is opened for once a minute 👹ī¸ ! . it fails the purpose of xfce . apt is best ! i purged "software" (gnome-software) and disabled packagekit /gnome apps . now system runs light and fast 😀ī¸04:39
Unit193You can use Synaptic if you prefer a GUI, and package-update-indicator if you need a tray icon to indicate updates.04:45
Regori use apt mostly though i have installed synaptic too.which is conviennt in searching packages in categories.05:16
Unit193Or via origins.05:17
Regororigins ?05:17
Unit193Yes, where the package came from, or if it's local only.  This is useful if you use external repos.05:18
Regorcool05:18
xubuntu63wUsing xubuntu 18.04. how can I connect Android phone.06:34
xubuntu63wUsing xubuntu 18.04. how can i connect Android phone06:35
xubuntu63wxubuntu, how can I connect Android06:37
well_laid_lawnwhat sort of connection ?06:39
well_laid_lawnfile transfer or access point or ...06:39
xubuntu63wWireless06:39
well_laid_lawnsee if this helps https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/11/connect-android-ubuntu-gsconnect06:40
xubuntu63wgsconnect can't install or run06:41
xubuntu63wUsing 18.04 version of xubuntu06:42
xubuntu63wCan not find in software package06:42
well_laid_lawnk06:42
xubuntu63w gsconnect show service unavailable06:45
xubuntu63wFF extension of gsconnect06:46
well_laid_lawnhaving a read on the net suggests you need the kdeconnect app on your phone06:47
well_laid_lawnyou can install kdeconnect in xubuntu06:48
well_laid_lawn!ifo kdeconnect06:48
well_laid_lawn!info kdeconnect06:48
ubottukdeconnect (source: kdeconnect): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma Workspace. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 526 kB, installed size 3068 kB06:48
xubuntu63wKdconnect install in phone but cannot find PC06:49
xubuntu63wDid not install kdconnect in xubuntu06:51
well_laid_lawnkdeconnect will hae to be running on the xubuntu pc06:54
well_laid_lawnkdeconnect will have to be running on the xubuntu pc06:55
xubuntu63wOk, then I will install kdeconnect & see gsconnect working or not07:00
nikolamI upgraded to 19.10 and everything is slow as hell, system is unusable. Maybe that is something about support for multiple monitors? CPU is T5600 64-bit laptop, worked fine on 19.0407:59
nikolamWhile I am typing (ps/2 keyboard) everything is slow and I am typing blindly. Waited 10 + minutes for hexchat to start07:59
nikolamcpu usage showing in panel says one core full use and changing used cores, but in top I can't see anything08:01
nikolamAnd yes, Mega sync proprietary app crashed after update.08:01
nikolamand yes, it is lowlatency kernel08:03
nikolamI think everything was fine on thes account, until I clicked to enabel dual monitor in non-mirror image config08:10
nikolamSeems like multiple monitor option with changes in Xubuntu 19.10/xfce is buggy. (Intel 945GM laptop graphics)08:50
nikolamThe moment I turn on on external VGA monitor in Display settings in Xubuntu, everything starts to work super slow, like not usable08:51
nikolamAfter I turn off displaying picture on externa display everything speedwise is back to normal08:51
nikolamSo now I can't use external monitor in Xubuntu 19.10..09:01
well_laid_lawnnikolam:  you could try using xrandr from a terminal09:02
well_laid_lawnor arandr if you need to click09:02
nikolamwell_laid_lawn, have you seen previous thing, that turning on external monitor, slows down everything in 19.1009:06
nikolamhttps://pastebin.com/KsWJbAY309:08
nikolamSeems like Screen compositing is problem now in Xubuntu 19.10. When it is turned on and there are multiple monitors enabled (with different images), then it is all slow and unusable. When i turn off compositing, it seems working ok.09:14
well_laid_lawnnikolam:  I haven't tried the 19.* xubuntus yet09:35
nikolamMaybe it's also about compositing for certain hardware. here is 945GM09:46
brainwashnikolam: vsync on or off?09:57
nikolambrainwash, i have to find where to check it. it is 945GM graphics10:05
brainwashxfce settings > window manager tweaks > compositor10:05
brainwashalso this https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/tree/COMPOSITOR10:07
brainwashyou could test with vblank=xpresent10:07
nikolamI don't see vsync option in xfce settings > window manager tweaks > compositor10:10
nikolamI will read10:10
nikolamwith xfwm4 --replace --vblank=glx & and compositing enabled, it is very slow.10:16
nikolamwith xfwm4 --replace --vblank=xpresent & and compositing enabled, it is ok10:16
nikolamwith xfwm4 --replace --vblank=off & and compositing enabled, it is working, but slower10:17
brainwashokay10:19
brainwashxpresent was the default until some months ago. due to some issues with the nvidia driver it was changed back to glx.10:21
nikolamyes, didn't have problems on xubuntu 19.04 with this.10:22
brainwashthe intel driver may enforce vsync via its settings10:22
brainwashworth to check it10:22
nikolamit didn't behave slower until it is set not to mirror image on both monitors, then it starts like that.10:23
brainwashright. you mentioned that.10:23
well_laid_lawnman intel    shows lots of options10:24
brainwashhttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1588910:25
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 15889 in General "xfwm4 4.14.0-1. Hi CPU utilization with enabled composition" [Normal,New]10:26
brainwashhttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1596310:26
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 15963 in General "xfwm4 hanging and using too much cpu time" [Critical,New]10:26
brainwashI suggest to read through those10:27
brainwashand create a new report if needed10:27
nikolamthanks brainwash10:33
Regori see sometimes a 4.1 kb volume disk ! why it appears ? on bionic10:45
brainwashRegor: check the properties dialog11:20
Regorok11:22
Regori  Rebooted ..now i dont see it11:22
Regorit appears sometimes so i would take note next time11:24
brainwashRegor: maybe something to do with the snap package backend11:41
brainwashwhen you run the "mount" command in a terminal window, I will list entries for snap packages11:43
Regori disabled  snap in session/startup on first day of installation since i dont use/need snap . i checked the issue on web ...and found many people facing it on bionic .11:50
Regorhttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241508511:50
brainwashsession and startup? but snapd is still present on your system11:53
brainwashnext time it happens, simply check the output or "mount"11:53
Regorok11:53
Regoryeah i would do that11:54
brainwashand obviously the properties dialog11:54
Regorok11:54
tomreynmaybe also run (and gather the output of)     gio mount --list --detail    then11:56
Regoryeah..11:57
CICDCHello, after upgrading to 19.10, I can no longer lock my screen with `ctrl-alt-l` in the app shortcuts, this is still linked to `xflock4` what should I update this to?17:37
brainwashCICDC: you probably should ensure that either xfce4-screensaver or light-locker are started with the session17:41
CICDCAlso in the action buttons in the panel, the "lock screen" also not does nothing. Guessing it's related17:42
CICDClight-locker is seems to be running, however `pgreg xfce4-screensaver` didn't return anything so guessing it's not17:50
CICDCdurp-a-der misspelled pgrep above, but still not running.17:53
CICDCShould I remove xflock4 then? Is this blocking something? Why wouldn't the screensaver be loading automatically? Thanks for your help17:56
brainwashxflock4 is a simply script17:58
brainwashhttps://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/tree/scripts/xflock417:59
brainwashthe xubuntu version is patched, so it has light-locker in the list18:00
brainwashdoes the command "light-locker-command --lock" work?18:00
brainwashalternatively, remove light-locker, install xfce4-screensaver, relog, test18:01
CICDCThanks brainwash although light-locker does work, I think I'm going to remove it in favor of of the new xfce-screensaver18:53
xubuntu54wok, silly seeming question.  I'm trying to use the "cheese" application to film with a usb webcam, but the default is my laptops onboard.  Unfortunately, the preferences for cheese, where one can switch inputs, are accessed through a separate menubar at the top of the screen, which appears in gnome, but not by default in xubuntu. Does anyone know19:02
xubuntu54whow I can access that preferences in the global menu?19:02
diogenes_xubuntu54w, click on cheese > preferences: https://i.imgur.com/FHaWw41.png19:06
xubuntu54wwhen I click on it in the top bar i just get the menu with resize maximize etc.  https://ibb.co/PMMNjS319:12
xubuntu54wi feel like im missing something, but i cant be this inept lol. i been searching how to open the preferences from the command line too, its possible to edit the config but then playing with a cam will become a giant project.19:13
diogenes_xubuntu54w, screenshot19:14
xubuntu54wi posted a screenshot in the link above. thats my desktop with cheese open. prntscrn doesnt work with the right click menu open, but when i right click on it on the top bar i just get "minimize, maximize, move, resize etc."  im just trying to get the global menu.  in most other apps like firefox or xfce terminal you can force the menu with f10, but19:20
xubuntu54wfor whatever reason that doesnt work in cheese. frustrating.19:20
diogenes_xubuntu54w, then you can record with vlc or guvcview19:23
xubuntu54wah yeah totally forgot vlc can capture, thanks. still frustrating being defeated by such a simple app and a preferences menu lol.19:26
diogenes_wel it has the menu in place for me.19:28
xubuntu54wweird. i just updated to 19.10 yesterday, i wonder if it's some glitch?19:29
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XubuntuNubGuys.21:46
XubuntuNubI am sorry to let you down but i can't install Xubuntu21:46
XubuntuNubhence the nickname21:46
XubuntuNubI would like some help guys..21:47
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tomreyn!details | XubuntuNub22:30
ubottuXubuntuNub: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.22:30
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XubuntuNubAlright boy, Strap in because this is long. First off, PC spec  : 64 GB HP 360x touchscreen 4gb ram Pentium processor. Been doing the normal Xubuntu set-up and i got the error  Executing "grub-install /dev/sda failed22:57
kadiroXubuntuNub> check the bios may be22:58
XubuntuNubWillco23:01
XubuntuNubUSB Boot is enable and Network is disabled. Legacy support is disable and Secure boot too. Boot order of UEFI is USB, OS boot manager23:06
kadiroin that way it must work unless the iso is not good or something else23:08
XubuntuNubOkay23:15
XubuntuNubI just need to burn a new iso on my ysb?23:15
kadiroXubuntuNub> chack it with md5sum sha25sum ..23:19
kadirocheck*23:20
kadiroif it is ok than the problem is something else23:20
XubuntuNuboh oh oh23:31
XubuntuNubkadiro I am seeing another thing23:31
kadirotel me23:31
XubuntuNubWhile restarting, it is having new options23:31
kadirolike what23:32
XubuntuNubI have Reinstall Ubuntu 19.1023:32
kadiroah23:32
XubuntuNuberase ubuntu 19.1023:32
kadirocan you boot?23:32
XubuntuNubinstall Xubuntru 19.10 alongside ubuntu 19.1023:32
XubuntuNubIt is on a live session23:32
XubuntuNubof Xubuntu23:32
kadiroyour machine have already ubuntu 19.10 ?23:33
XubuntuNubNo23:33
XubuntuNubIt was on Win 1023:33
XubuntuNubI tried a live sesion of ubuntu but it was too demanding23:33
kadirooh things become complicated23:33
XubuntuNubThat much more?23:34
kadiroI guess you already installed ubuntu19.10 alongside with win10 and your liveusb detected it23:35
XubuntuNubYeah?23:35
kadiroit tried to overide the boot grub but it cant for some reason23:35
kadirothat's my guess i could be wrong23:36
kadiroXubuntuNub> If you have already an ubuntu19.10 and you want to switch to xubuntu 19.10 you can try to install xubuntu-desktop only23:38
XubuntuNubProblem is I erased Ubuntu to swtich to Xubuntu23:38
XubuntuNubI don't understand how it could conflict with each other23:39
kadiroXubuntuNub> when you boot without the liveusb do you see the grub menu?23:39
XubuntuNubYes23:42
kadiroah that's the problem23:42
kadirothat mean ubuntu is there23:42
kadirobut you can install xubuntu even if ubuntu is there23:43
kadirojust make sure the iso is good23:44
XubuntuNubAlright23:44
XubuntuNubDone23:44
XubuntuNubWhat install option should I choose23:44
kadirotell me when you boot with the liveusb what the option you have23:44
kadiroIn my case I always choose the 1st that have 'Try ...'23:45
kadirothat way i can boot in live session and see if i can fix things23:46
XubuntuNubOption : 1. Erase Ubuntu 19.10 2. Install Xubuntu 19.10 alongside Ubuntu 19.1023:50
XubuntuNub3. Erase Disk and install Xubuntu23:50
XubuntuNub4. Experimental : Erase disk and use ZFS 5. Something else23:51
kadirodon't use the 3rd one23:51
kadiromay be the 1st that only remove ubuntu hoppefuly it will don't mess with your win1023:52
kadironot*23:52

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