[00:00] `systemctl --dry-run reboot` rebooted [00:00] as you may have noticed [00:01] Sven_vB: "If the optional argument arg is given, it will be passed as the optional argument to the reboot(2) system call. The value is architecture and firmware specific." --- apparently it can't tell when you've given the reboot subcommand with invalid arguments, because it doesn't know what is valid [00:01] doug16k: yikes. can you file a bug report on that? :) [00:01] sarnold, thanks! [00:01] sure [00:12] already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1813400 [00:12] Launchpad bug 1813400 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemctl doesn't respect --dry-run" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:13] launchpad did a nice job finding it. I got there through `ubuntu-bug systemd` and it figured it out perfectly from my bug title [00:14] I "me too"'d it [00:14] I'd freak if I were a sysadmin and it did that in production [00:17] but systemd is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/237-3ubuntu10.29 <> 237-3ubuntu10.11 [00:18] ah, mine is probably newer eh? [00:18] no [00:18] will that existing bug be ignored because of version? [00:18] Removed from disk on 2019-02-19. [00:18] no, but if it's been ignored for nine months, that's not ideal [00:19] if that bug exists in ~10.29 then the bugreport is valid and should be updated [00:19] hitting 'me too' did update it, it caused the state to tranition from new to confirmed [00:20] thoughI'm not sure if that'll bug xnox or not [00:20] oh wow, my systemd --version says "237" too [00:22] actually, in my bionic i have 237-3ubuntu10.31 [00:22] added a comment that it still happens on 237-3ubuntu10.31 [00:23] ya I checked `apt show systemd` later [00:23] --version just says: systemd 237 [00:23] followed by what appears to be configure script parameters [00:25] hey team; i can pair a pair of bluetooth headphones to ubuntu but i cant get the audio to come out of them; ideas? lenovo t420 and ubuntu 18.04 [00:26] arooni, check the bluetooth part in audio settings, is it A2DP ? [00:26] sometimes that switch is not automatic [00:27] oerheks: heres what pauv thinks: https://imgur.com/a/GU0ccNr [00:28] a2dp would be what id like [00:28] whats weird is i can hear the volume up/down output from my keyboard but cant hear any apps audio output [00:29] oh, and i added blueman ppa, much more stable [00:29] oerheks: ah interesting let me find that and use that ppa too [00:29] which of these? [00:29] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=blueman [00:30] this is one ive sene [00:30] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bluetooth/bluez [00:30] i've seen [00:30] jups [00:30] * arooni is on it! [00:31] do i need to restart after upgrading my packages [00:31] or can i restart the service [00:31] instead [00:31] arooni: what's on the playback tab? [00:31] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bluetooth/bluez [00:31] sudo apt-get update [00:31] [00:32] should work immediatly, i think [00:33] oerheks:https://gist.github.com/c4d593301d9978d59dc5c33d17e58337 is 5.50 the latest version? [00:34] sarnold: bingo! https://imgur.com/a/lTUmIbg ;; anyway to get it to auto select bluetooth devices when available? seems i have tto manually select each one [00:34] for each app [00:35] also ; seems like i need to run this on every startup to get it to find the bluetooth sink: I] ~  pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover [00:35] anyway to get that to auto run on every startup/ [00:36] arooni: hah, please do let me know if you find it, I'm getting a bit tired of always changing my firefox audio output from dock to speakers on this hting.. [00:36] ahhhh the joys of linux ..... ;) :P [00:36] sarnold: i think i'll settle for a script called 'fixbluetooth' [00:37] ahhaha [00:37] i guess i need to run that on every startup? ; pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover ; and pactl load-module module-bluetooth-policy [00:41] i present my latest masterpiece: https://gist.github.com/arooni/e3b04d3cb2193ad09ce70d6ed8badf50 [00:42] it's in there twice? [00:44] oops mising pactl load-module module-bluetooth-policy [00:44] aha :) [00:44] apparently its not a masterpiece [00:45] maybe ti's the mistake that humanizes you, and lets us all say "even the great masters had their off days" [00:50] arooni, +1 for quoting [01:16] is this the right place to ask about synchronizing launchpad gpg keys? launchpad is telling me to add hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com (at launchpad.net/~doug16k/+editgpgkeys), but it doesn't say the port. the existing one in the server list at port 11371 says Couldn't communicate with server when I try to sync my gpg key [01:18] oops, +editpgpkeys [01:24] doug16k: did you get it sorted? [01:24] pgp thing? no [01:24] :( [01:25] doug16k: maybe try the web interface? https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/# [01:26] I don't see a way to show/copy the public key in Passwords and Keys [01:27] there's an "Export Secret Key" button, but I'm guessing that is the private key? [01:28] public isn't secret, that's for sure === zbenjamin is now known as Guest68777 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:30] gpg --armor --export ought to give you something you can copy and paste into the box [01:31] gpg --armor --export '' says: gpg: WARNING: nothing exported [01:33] gpg --list may have done it though... [01:34] ah, not "armoured" though? page says "Bad Request" if I post 40-digit hex thing --list showed [01:35] doug16k: yeah, it should look more like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5CDS4vTSjT/ [01:35] (though the actual length depends upon how many uids you have and how many signatures you have) [01:35] ya I figured it should be like that [01:35] PKS or whatever [01:36] PKCS* [01:37] like that I mean [01:38] `pgp -a --list-public-keys` doesn't work either [01:39] pgp? [01:39] where'd you find a pgp? :) [01:39] gpg... man I keep doing that [01:40] :D [01:42] yeah, you're not looking for a "list" operation, you're looking for an "export" [01:42] got it: gpg -a --export [01:42] thanks [01:43] now the question is, will that be enough to make launchpad happy or not? [01:43] response is {"inserted":null,"updated":null,"ignored":["rsa4096/"]} [01:43] is a bunch of hex [01:43] 4096 too strong? [01:47] 2048 json response seems to imply it was inserted [01:47] weird [01:47] other people do have 4096 keys https://launchpad.net/~vorlon but that key is quite old, certainly predates the SKS keyserver DOS mess [01:47] wild guess: sql insert threw exception because of fixed size field [01:50] Greetings, I am new and looking for some direction to finding where i screwed up with my networking, this is also my first time using IRC so any instruction or advice is most welcome. [01:51] whytetech: ubuntu desktop or server please? [01:51] server 18.04 [01:51] come join at #ubuntu-server please whytetech === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:16] how's optimus working out in 19.10? anybody online have any insight? [02:28] nt0: its nvidia-prime these days [02:29] nt0: whats your ubuntu version, card chipset and driver version you are trying? [02:31] is this file truncated for you? it ends in the middle of a heading: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/2.0/+download [02:32] lotuspsychje: asking re: 19.10 in general. i have a laptop that i'd like to move to *nix, but it has the nvidia/intel combo. i'll be using the latest drivers offered and the chipset is HM175 i think. considering ubuntu because i was surprised how much i liked the newer iterations after installing it for a friend and don't feel like configuring gentoo on a laptop that uses nvidia's prime switching [02:34] oh, card chipset? is that what 'pascal' is? [02:34] nt0: optimus cards work nicely these days, by installing the reccomended (or later) nvidia drivers [02:35] nt0, I can say prime worked fine on my intel+nvidia laptop in 18.04 LTS, using nvidia-driver-430 in "Software & Updates" "Additional Drivers" tab. I'd expect it to be as good in 19.10 but can't say I've tried it [02:36] doug16k: thanks. surprisingly hard to find testimonials with a websearch. ofc when things work people rarely leave a review (where would they? the problem often points out the place to complain!) [02:36] 860m, but ubuntu's nvidia driver is very plug and play. I had a 1060 on my desktop, and threw in a 2060 super (at the same time!) and it just worked, didn't lift a finger configuring anything [02:37] doug16k: the bigger RTX and GTX cards would need latest drivers for best play, from the ubuntu graphics ppa [02:38] nvidia-driver-430 works perfectly on my RTX 2060 super [02:38] lotus did write "best" :{ [02:38] including in games [02:38] doug16k: that depends what you mean with perfectly, think if you start gaming high end.. [02:38] s/:{/:P [02:38] including gpu computing [02:39] lotuspsychje, more high end than rise of the tomb raider? [02:39] what do you mean? [02:39] doug16k: thats pretty high end indeed [02:39] can crank everything complete max (including AA) and it's smooth [02:39] 496GB/s mem bandwidth will do that :D [02:40] doug16k: come to #ubuntu-discuss plz? [02:40] I have an issue with japanese input (ibus/mozc, I tried also ibus/anthy): I just cannot input any japanese, input keeps western. Any clue ? xubuntu 19.10, fresh install [02:40] a few of my games work as well/better in gnu/linux and a few work poorly. i'm not a huge gamer, so mostly what i play is indistinguishable (haven't tried tomb raider on my main machine after ditching windows, tho) [02:40] aye this is OT. sorry [02:53] Can I capture a mpd http audio stream using something basic like curl or wget and pipe it to my speakers via pulseaudio? Is this a reasonable thing to do? [03:03] Quick question... I have the Brave browser installed (and it's the default). However, whenever I click on a link (in email, a terminal window, etc), it doesn't fire up the browser. Instead, I have to right-click on the link, select copy, then start a browser session, right-click and select paste/go in the address bar. Any ideas on what I have to do to make Brave fire up automatically? My current system setup can be found at http://paste. [03:03] ubuntu.com/p/ymqMWsrt3b/ [03:03] Thanks [03:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ymqMWsrt3b/ [03:05] damn, brb, afk. [03:09] Hi. New to Linux environment and wondering if anyone has a nice shortcut to copying a "directory path" from file explorer which uses the "\" to a Linux Command Prompt which uses the "/". Would be nice to find a way to convert the forward/backslashes automatically [03:11] gjt343, how do get \ on a linux system ? Can you explain your case ? [03:11] gjt343: you could use tr to swap them.. echo '\a\b\c' | tr '\\' / -> /a/b/c [03:12] gjt343: also, windows understands forward slashes just fine, no need to use daft backslashes [03:14] Triffid_Hunter, not sure your answer is correct. gjt343 said he is running Linux. Not sure where are \ here. I would prefer a better question. [03:15] bodiccea: Let me re-phrase [03:15] back [03:17] bodiccea: I'm running WSL on windows environment which allows me to operate on Linux. So basically I'm copying file directories that look like this ---> C:\Users\bob\desktop\file I'm wondering if anyone else uses Windows / WSL that has a shortcut to paste them into the format with "/" instead of "\" [03:18] echo "\\something\\something else" | sed 's/\\/\//g' [03:19] Triffid_Hunter: New to all of this, So I'll give it a shot. I guess that would work the other way around also? [03:21] dont you think it is a windows problem ? We all can change a character to another one, you had some. But all in "unix" way. From Bill Gates view, this place is normally not best [03:22] normally, any system allows to copy one filesystem to another. I still do not understand [03:23] basically looking for an easy way to "cd" into a folder [03:24] doesn't work for me to type in the "\" gives me error messages [03:24] oh. [03:24] "no such file or directory" [03:25] gjt343> you are in windows or linux machine? [03:25] of course \ is not a directory separator on any unix system [03:26] kadiro: windows. and running Ubuntu off of WSL (Windows sublinux) [03:26] this is a valid character for filename === morebaby is now known as beaver [03:27] gjt343> windows use C: D: ..etc when linux use the mounted path like ex. /media/$USER/... or /mnt/... [03:28] It can't be done if it is not mounted [03:28] kadiro: hmm, ok. I'll read into this. Not even sure what a "mounted path" so I guess that's my starting point [03:28] kadiro: thx for response, I'll check it out [03:29] gjt343> in windows you see drives like C: ...etc when in linux you have to mount it first to be accessible [03:29] No problem [03:30] In general linux start always with / as the root file system [03:30] argh. Still not understand question :) If you boot Windows, paths will have \, on Linux, they will be /. Do you have a script or so, which cares that? [03:32] if yes, not well written [03:33] bodiccea: probably just a misunderstanding from the fundamental differences between Windows/Linux. I guess I'll be stuck for now typing out the filepaths while I read up on this. [03:34] gjt343> you can install wine and see how directories work, you will understand the difference when you drag and drop a directory to the terminal (linux ) and (wineconsole) (command like in windows) [03:37] kadiro: ok, thx. I'll check out wine also. There's a package in the Python Programming language called "pathlib" or some people use a syntax like "os.path" which automatically converts the paths for you between operating systems. Maybe I'll have to write one when I get a better understanding of this. [03:37] gjt343> yes that will be better for sure if you know python [03:59] hi all [04:01] i am trying to compile vlc from source for windows but am facing this error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6GQW3sGzwd/ [04:02] i have found that there is some error with libstdc++ [04:02] due to which make fails in the above case [04:03] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YcVrPDZjMH/ [04:04] here is the output when i try to install libstdc++ [04:04] i have tried various answers on fixing broken packages but nothing has worked so far [04:04] can somebody help to fix this? [04:12] i am on ubuntu 18.04 [04:17] amCap1712: we dont support own compiling, instead use the packages from the official ubuntu repos or snaps [04:19] lotuspsychje: i am working to develop vlc so i need to compile it [04:19] amCap1712: i understand, but in this channel we dont really support it, hope you understand? [04:20] I understand that [04:20] amCap1712: do you want to contribute as developer for ubuntu? [04:20] I need help with fixing broken libstdc++ packages [04:21] Yes i am interested in that [04:22] amCap1712: #ubuntu-devel [04:22] amCap1712> I think there is an irc channel called may be #vlc or something may be they can help [04:22] !contribute | amCap1712 see also [04:22] amCap1712 see also: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu [04:24] lotuspsychje, that's not "own compiling", apt install interpreted libstdc++ as a regex [04:25] Yeah kadiro i know that there is a vlc channel. But i my issue is not with compiling vlc. It's that some of my packages are broken and i need to fix those. [04:25] doug16k: the user said, he wants to compile vlc from source, wich is not supported [04:25] oh sorry for misreading [04:25] therefore don't help with apt install. got it [04:26] amCap1712, you almost certainly already have libstdc++ [04:29] doug16k: i too think so, I was able to install libstdc++ with apt [04:29] But later when it didn't work i tried to remove it and saw this error [04:30] amCap1712, you can't remove that, tons of existing installed things are already depending on it [04:30] well, i will compile vlc. normally, no issue. but amCap1712 is on Windows, right ? so what is the point ? [04:30] I am on Ubuntu [04:31] I am cross compiling vlc for windows, bodiccea [04:32] it was not clear... and cross-compiling is surely not here. [04:32] doug16k: ok, so the output of apt is normal [04:34] there is no such thing as libstdc++. there are specific versions of libstdc++ for specific architectures, though [04:37] try to compile your kernel for arm, which is easy (from a 64bits), then compile vlc for it, then you can try for Windows or Apple... [04:37] amCap1712, if you want the cross-compiler to win64 version, you want to install g++-mingw-w64-x86-64 [04:37] and this is really not the point of this channel [04:38] move to another channel please [04:38] yes :) [04:39] meantime, i still cannot input japanese... [04:40] doug16k: already have it [04:40] Ok, lotuspsychje [04:40] bodiccea: when you like volunteers to help, re-ask your orignal issue here once in a while [04:48] sure, lotuspsychje. I have installed brand new xubuntu 19.10, with ibus/mozc (i tried also ibus/anthy), but i cannot input a single japanese character... [04:52] but i think it could be a menu issue ? or mistake in settings ? all look fine... [05:26] 1 [06:14] I have a problem I have never seen before. On a fresh 19.10 install, when I go to sharing, the only thing available is media sharing, no remote desktop. [06:14] On my laptop it's there, but on another machine it's not there. Any thoughts? [06:23] backup full live system with rsync is possible? and if so, how? guidelines .. [06:24] !backup | SkyWay [06:24] SkyWay: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning [06:25] tried with tar .. but error.. file has changed .. [06:26] rsync i can't figure out how to do it, it backups file, but when rsync from backup, the system doesn't start anymore.. [06:26] !cloning [06:26] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate [06:27] !borg [06:27] borg is a fast backup tool with incremental backups: https://www.borgbackup.org/ (Ubuntu packages: borgbackup, borgbackup-doc, and borgmatic) [06:34] !sbackup [06:34] sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe === conjo is now known as cuzzi [06:54] There seems to be a regression regarding grub on final 19.10, 19.10 beta grub installed perfectly multiple times in very different scenarios. On final 19.10, I had to repair things [06:55] could anyone please suggest some programs on linux to convert video-im not sure about the choices available on linux the i have to convert a friends 25G wedding footage-also which are the choice codecs to use now a days-my last dabble was in the late 90s early 2000s when i was on windows and using xvid as the codec [06:55] thank you in advance for any suggestions [06:56] the footage i have was taken on a hd vcr recorder lols [06:57] avidemux could be used [06:57] It is on "app store" too [07:01] thank you [07:02] no problem, it takes a while to get used to but it does amazing things. I'd suggest you use software x264 and don't delete originals [07:03] hardware accelerated h264 is fast but I didn't like the final quality [07:24] thanks alot really appreciate it-thanks for the tip re originals got three bups on diff media n places =) [07:25] ciao im off to learn how too [07:38] How can I check the power management settings of ubuntu with no GUI? [07:38] Ubuntu 18.04 that is [09:01] hi, ubuntu 19.10, with installed "desktop icons" extension from prev. version. Not able to update the extension or even to remove it, so what is the current state of this extension or is it default now for ubuntu? [09:06] for the virtualization tech: [09:06] don't use Virtualbox, better use VMware Workstation. VMware is rich of features and high tech. Mainly for you who want to be Red Hat admin. [09:06] i was in Windows and Debian using VMware Workstation. Vmware is very great. Vmware Virt was like Nissan GTR car. And Red Hat was like Ferrari car. [09:06] Even when i'm in Fedora still using VMware. [09:06] here the patch for fedora: [09:06] https://github.com/mkubecek/vmware-host-modules/archive/workstation-$VMwareVersion.tar.gz [09:06] time to say good bye to vmware. [09:06] P.S: [09:06] replace $VMwareVersion to your vmware workstation version. [09:06] basalt: enable/disable desktop icons is now integrated into gnome-tweaks [09:06] AndikaSagala: please dont do that here, this is the ubuntu support channel [09:07] ok [09:07] i'm silent [09:07] the installer for ubuntu 19.10 is kinda screwy [09:07] lotuspsychje: but still in the extension section ? [09:07] basalt: yes [09:07] it had issues on 3 different installations when upgrading from 19.04 to 19.10 [09:08] lotuspsychje: but if i go to https://extensions.gnome.org/ and check my installed extensions, is it also visible, with the green "update me" icon, but i cannot update [09:09] basalt: i think system updates will handle that [09:10] lotuspsychje: "desktop-icnons@csoriani" cannot be installed: cannot install it manualy int he current session" [09:14] why does /bin/mount have setuid permission? mount does not need setuid to check that it's not root and print "only root can do that" [09:14] (observed on ubuntu 18.04 - and on debian 9) [09:16] hans_, it's setuid for the few things it does allow non-root users to do [09:16] * non-root may specify source *or* target, but not both [09:16] see 'Non-superuser mounts' in man mount [09:17] !info gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons eoan | basalt [09:17] basalt: gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (source: gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons): desktop icon support for GNOME Shell. In component main, is optional. Version 19.10.2-1 (eoan), package size 24 kB, installed size 200 kB [09:17] basalt: check if you have this installed? ^ [09:17] Habbie, oh neat, that explains it, thanks [09:20] lotuspsychje: check by run "!info gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons eoan" ?? [09:21] basalt: no, apt policy gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons [09:21] lotuspsychje: "Installiert: 19.10.2-1" [09:22] basalt: ok, try to uninstall it, then check in gnome-tweaks if its still there [09:23] yes, but deactivated [09:23] enable doesnt work? [09:24] works, but there are no settings on this anymore, no choice do see the trash [09:25] basalt: i dont have it installed either, and i can enable/disable those settings here [09:26] ok i try to reboot [09:29] lotuspsychje: after reboot, no desktop icons at all, and no entry in the Tweak/Extension sections for desktop icons [09:30] basalt: ok, reinstall it now [09:31] lotuspsychje: again via apt or via extension homepage ? [09:32] basalt: sudo apt install gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons [09:32] i got it installed aswell so it seems, weird the bot shows optional [09:33] ok done, i will restart again [09:36] basalt: working? [09:36] lotuspsychje: ok, desktop is back, also the settings in tweak is back. [09:36] great [09:36] must be an upgrade glitch [09:36] lotuspsychje: but on https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ it still shows the icon to upgrade [09:37] basalt: apt updates will handle new updates [09:37] ok, so i will not care about this no, thx lotuspsychje [09:37] np [09:56] is "laptop-mode-tools" worth the time to evaluate ? [10:03] Can a device ip ssh server be created on a server running on localhost, eg dbclient localhost 22 # create a ssh server from inside the ssh that runs on the devices ip address, 192.168.0.11, that other devices can connect to [10:40] Guess who is back [10:40] tomreyn [10:41] Lonebadger: you? i? both of us? [10:41] Both and my problem [10:42] Now I don't seem to have the amd64 signed problem now [10:42] i'll scroll up, already forgot about it ;) [10:42] https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=265615 Here is a post that describe my problem the most [10:43] but you were installing ubuntu, right? [10:44] Xubuntu [10:44] But the chat was dead there [10:44] ok [10:44] So ... here I am [10:45] did you do the integrity check mentioned on this forum post? [10:45] Doing it right now [10:51] Lonebadger: unfortunately i think the root cause of all of this is that your BIOS is really bad. i'm a bit sorry for having made you upgrade it now. from what i remember the one you had before was not really good either, though. this *may* help coming up with some kernel command line options which can make the firmware cooperate better with Linux, by 'making it think Linux is actually Windows': http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_os [10:51] i.html [10:51] ah, broken link: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [10:53] another option would be to try an older bios version, maybe the last but one or somewhere in the middle between the one you had originally and what you have now. i seem to recall there were many versions for your board. [10:54] also two 'main' versions were listed for windows, but it wasn't clear why. [10:54] Wait Wait [10:54] It is not doing any error this time... [10:55] Waitt... [10:55] Welp It is not doing that much error xD [11:00] Alirght it is unpacking Grub2 now [11:00] Critical stage [11:04] I went to Settings->Devices and looked at the mouse options. There's no way to change the speed of double click. [11:04] Does ubuntu not have something to do that? [11:05] Mood Right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-3Yok5D3Aw [11:06] Setting up grub-efi-amd64 seems to pass fine. Installing for x86-64-efi platform got through. Cleanup of temp directories atm [11:11] it's time ubuntu got proper toggle to disable mouse acceleration and options for shortcuts to locate mouse pointer and toggle to increase mouse pointer size when shaking really fast. [11:14] Lonebadger: i summed up some of the outputs you provided yesterday again: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4y8qTYS32R/ [11:15] it would help if you posted a fresh journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 either from the installer after it fails, or if it doesn't, from the system you installed. [11:18] hello all, I need some help: apt says packages have unmet dependencies and doesn't do any other updating [11:18] but I can't purge those packages either, if I try to nothing happens. [11:19] it recommends I do apt-get -f install but that doesn't solve it either. [11:19] anyone tried ubuntu 19.10? Any good reason to upgrade to this latest version? [11:21] tomreyn Following the step guide [11:29] laaq: if you're currently on 19.04 then a good reason is that you'll loose support within three months [11:29] max12345: show the output on a pastebin [11:29] !paste | max12345 [11:29] max12345: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:29] tomreyn: that's a good enough reason. thanks [11:29] :) [11:30] tomreyn WE GOT THROUGH THE THING [11:30] GRUB IS ISNTALLL [11:30] tomreyn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-15VC4Yxzys [11:32] Earrape advice [11:32] Lonebadger: nice. but please tone it down a bit. ;) [11:32] I have been at it for 4 days [11:33] so i'm very glad the installation succeeded, too. i'm not yet convinced this system will operate very well, though. but i can always be wrong. [11:34] you'll find out soon enough, and i wish you all the best of luck. [11:37] Couldn't work as worse as Win 10 [11:37] Waited 10 min for it to be actually responsive after boot up [11:39] oh, okay, so it's not just an issue on linux. could it be a hardware issue, were there some "undesirable events"? [11:40] * tomreyn gone for now, will follow up later [11:42] Alrght [11:43] I have ubuntu 18.04 on a lenovo yoga 700 14ISK, and previously sound from the builtin speakers was working fine, but now I am seeing "Speakers (unavailable)" in the pulseaudio volume control (and no sound obviously) [11:43] I am wondering if I have inadvertently hardware disabled the internal speakers... but it has no hardware button for that [11:44] is there a way to see the status of the hardware? [12:06] Now that Chromium has been forced to Snap, it shows that it has no permission to Downloads folder. That is ridiculous, a new permission system or something, as my file/folder permissions are good to go. How do I get Chromium to save files? [12:08] tomreyn Just want to thank you deeply... Everything is running smooth af [12:09] Even touchscreen is responsive [12:10] uldics: that is weird, this works for me -- and AFAIU the snap should have access to your entire home directory, and maybe also to removable media under /media [12:10] just not the rest of the filesystem [12:11] Lonebadger: what did the trick? [12:11] A mix of a lot of thing [12:12] * mgedmin tries saving in /tmp and discovers that (1) it works, but (2) it's not the real /tmp and I've no idea where the file was actually saved [12:12] But mainly https://askubuntu.com/questions/1028703/the-grub-efi-amd64-signed-package-failed-to-install-target [12:12] ok tnx Lonebadger [12:12] mgedmin: that maybe also removable media is something not working :) [12:12] After 4 days I am officially on the Xubuntu Cool kid club [12:14] max12345: unmet dependencys often result from adding external ppa's wich we dont support, can you pastebin your apt output please? [12:14] 'snap connections chromium' shows 'home' connected for me, but 'removable-media' not? haven't actually tested any [12:14] removable media is for ubuntu iso images, not file exchage ;) [12:15] !sound | tolland start here [12:15] tolland start here: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [12:16] shvm: did you try dconf-editor yet? [12:16] smallville7123: ubuntu desktop or server please? [12:17] mgedmin: Ok, how do I connect that removable-media? [12:17] snap connect something something, I don't really know! [12:17] sudo snap connect mysnap:removable-media [12:18] isn't gnome software supposed to show and let you change permissions for apps installed via snaps? [12:18] yep! [12:21] mgedmin: I have Mate, as a last chance to stay on inevitably degrading Ubuntu experience :D [12:22] weird, for me the experience has been constantly improving! [12:22] (with some inevitable bumps) [12:23] ioria: Thanks, worked like a charm! sudo snap connect chromium:removable-media [12:23] lotuspsychje: actually I had the idea to let aptitude fix it, that worked :) so thank you. [12:24] uldics, ok, np [12:24] max12345: ok great! [12:35] what's the best way to install / run virtualenv for both python2 and 3? in Arch, it has 2 different packages: virtualenv2 and virtualenv. Is there a similar method in ubuntu? [12:38] thelounge86: apt install python-virtualenv and python3-virtualenv, but! [12:39] thelounge86: you don't have to have installed it for both pythons; you can use either virtualenv to create virtualenvs for any python [12:39] ooo [12:39] the tables turn... [12:39] so sudo apt install virtualenv; and then virtualenv -p python2 /tmp/py2; virtualenv -p python3 -p /tmp/py3 [12:39] nice, thanks! [12:40] thelounge86: virtualenvwrapper is nice too, if you switch virtualenvs a lot and want them all in 1 place [12:40] oo i'll have to look into that [12:40] e.g. "mkvirtualenv my_project", "workon my_project" "deactivate" [12:40]