[02:44] <snatcher> >selected local keyboard layout on install >added english layout manually from widget to enter username/password/lvm etc >cannot login while there is no english layout only local after installation
[02:44] <snatcher> wtf?
[03:03] <wxl> snatcher: afaik that's par for the course with *buntu and perhaps more widely than that. i'm trying to find the bug report, but i know i've come across this before.
[03:14] <snatcher> really strange while *buntu is most popular distros, there is no such a problem even on gentoo while english layout included/enabled by default (for tty at least) and you can add/remove additional layouts, on lubuntu even cannot login on tty in such a case because local layout also attached to tty (where you can use only english layout because of posix(?) limitations), what a mess
[03:16] <tomreyn> i think i filed one similar to this, but not lubuntu specific
[03:16] <tomreyn> bug 1826567
[03:17] <tomreyn> ah but you use the other installer IIRC, so ignore, sorry.
[12:43] <Seallv> hello
[12:45] <Seallv> I am using Flameshot program on Lubuntu 19. For some reason when i installed it "prnt scn" button didnt open flameshot but the default lubuntu screenshot program. I just used the tray icon mouse2 click and did screenshot this way. Now i have need to use hotkey for it, becaues i want to capture the fullscreen - tray isnt shown in fullscreen.
[12:46] <Seallv> I went to menu -> settings -> LXQT settings -> hotkeys and changed "print" button from "lximage-qt -s" to "/usr/bin/flameshot gui" and now my print screen button doesnt do anything at all. Even when in change it back to old command it doesnt work.
[12:47] <Seallv> Also when i click on "print" button when dialog box on same button appears to set command for it - i cannot change it. It waits 10 seconds and whichever button i click it doesnt respond.
[12:48] <Seallv> "/usr/bin/flameshot gui" works just fine from CLI
 Hello. you also have gtk2 crash problems and pcmanfm freeze? I have lubuntu 18.04.LTS
 @Mainframe1986 [Hello. you also have gtk2 crash problems and pcmanfm freeze? I have lubuntu 18.0 …], Yed
 Yes, that's one of the issues why I prefer lxqt over lxde
 @HMollerCl [Yes, that's one of the issues why I prefer lxqt over lxde], I agree with you. I have always supported innovation .. but do not abandon a project just because it will be replaced .. things must be resolved and completed ..
 @Mainframe1986 [I agree with you. I have always supported innovation .. but do not abandon a pro …], We have reported that bug in lxde more than a years ago, there hasn't been a solution, most of lxde active developer have move to lxqt
 Lxde development is stalled
 @HMollerCl [Lxde development is stalled], Already .. sin .. I only say that an LTS must be maintained until the end. Patience .. waiting 20.04
[23:32] <isthis4real57468> has anyone gotten livepatch working on lubuntu?
[23:42] <kc2bez> isthis4real57468: livepatch only works on LTS versions of (L) Ubuntu.
[23:43] <kc2bez> Here is the wiki page for livepatch https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch
[23:44] <tomreyn> sam thing they were told in respnse to the same question in #kubuntu
[23:44] <tomreyn> *sane
[23:44] <isthis4real57468> i know its probably meant for ubuntu proper...just curious if it still downloads and boots, or at which step it fails
[23:44] <tomreyn> also same
 @Mainframe1986 [Already .. sin .. I only say that an LTS must be maintained until the end. Patie …], unfortunately we as lubuntu, does not have the manpower to maintain lxde. And apparently lxde doesn't have that either, last complete release was in nov2016. https://blog.lxde.org/2016/11/22/lxde-common-0-99-2-released/
[23:45] <isthis4real57468> tomreyn do you run all versions? i thought thered be an adventurous soul running at least one version who's been successful or lived to tell the horror that ensued..
[23:45] <tomreyn> isthis4real57468: do you know what LTS is?
[23:45] <tomreyn> !LTS
[23:45] <kc2bez> Well I personally don't see the need for my desktop but I don't see why it isn't possible isthis4real57468
[23:45] <tomreyn> it's not about which ubuntu flavour you run
[23:46] <isthis4real57468> lts is ever 2 years...saying ubuntu proper though, means Im excluding lu,ku,xu,whatever buntu
[23:46] <tomreyn> and i'm telling you you dont need to exclude them
[23:46] <kc2bez> livepatch only applies to the kernel which is the same for all flavors.
[23:47] <isthis4real57468> but the docs clearly state only the lts versions work...but they dont CLEARLY say that lubuntu xubuntu etc wont work...also kernels are pretty seperate from de and userland...
[23:47] <isthis4real57468> so i was hoping technologically it could work, but maybe ubuntu checks the version and blocks download or something ...
[23:48] <tomreyn> we seem to have communication problems
[23:48] <tomreyn> maybe just read again what was written so far
 @Mainframe1986 [Already .. sin .. I only say that an LTS must be maintained until the end. Patie …], Here is the bug, check if it's the same or different https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1782984