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jdwwatts | love xubuntu but i get a broken package thatsays it cant mount gnome then it tries to remove shim and ends up trying to recover | 03:39 |
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jdwwatts | E;sub process E: systemd-shim: installed systemd-shim package post-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 2 | 03:43 |
jdwwatts | the desktop still works fine but the package manager won't get past the systemd shim remove error | 03:45 |
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xubuntu64w | Failed to start session? 8-/ | 15:20 |
tomreyn | hi there. are you looking for help with this? | 15:21 |
xubuntu64w | Thank You. Yes, I've done the upgrade and the login screen gives error on correct user name and password. | 15:22 |
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xubuntu64w | I've done a few things. Mostly tty ttl port and fix broken etc. apt upgrade apt update. It says I have 9xx updates but they don't seem to update? | 15:24 |
tomreyn | xubuntu64w: ok, please type "tomreyn" when responding after more than a minute so i won't miss your reply. which upgrade did you do? if you don't know, please switch to a terminal, login and run "lsb_release -ds". | 15:25 |
tomreyn | !tty | 15:25 |
ubottu | To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution | 15:25 |
tomreyn | i assume you'r enow connected to the internet from a different system? | 15:26 |
tomreyn | i mean for the chat | 15:26 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn "905 updates can be installed immediately" | 15:26 |
xubuntu64w | Yes Tom. | 15:26 |
xubuntu64w | I'm ttl logged into the unit. | 15:27 |
tomreyn | "ttl"? | 15:27 |
xubuntu64w | putty | 15:27 |
tomreyn | so logged in via ssh remotely, ok | 15:27 |
xubuntu64w | sorry, this is all a bit new to me. Yes, SSH | 15:27 |
tomreyn | does the system seem to have internet access still? ping -c2 1.1.1.1 reports what o the last line of output? | 15:28 |
tomreyn | actually last but one line, the one with 2 packets transmitted... | 15:28 |
xubuntu64w | lol, syasy for more ping see details. | 15:29 |
tomreyn | what happens when you type: echo test | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:29 |
tomreyn | does it return a http address? | 15:29 |
xubuntu64w | woops dyslexic | 15:29 |
xubuntu64w | 0% loss two received | 15:30 |
tomreyn | okay so you have internet access. what about the echo.... thing? | 15:31 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn checkign echo | 15:31 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn Hmm. echo test | nc termbin.com 9999 temp failure name resultion | 15:33 |
tomreyn | xubuntu64w: echo test | nc 5.39.93.71 9999 | 15:35 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn What about the 905 updates immediately available? What command will install them? | 15:35 |
tomreyn | none if your system is unable to resolve names | 15:36 |
tomreyn | i'm trying to enable yu to share some command output with me on the internet | 15:36 |
tomreyn | once that's done (we're very close) we can look into getting a better understanding why the updates can't be installed | 15:37 |
tomreyn | it will be much easier for me to understand what's failing then | 15:37 |
xubuntu64w | 4wpf? | 15:38 |
tomreyn | i guess you mean https://termbin.com/4wpf | 15:38 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn https://termbin.com/4wpf | 15:38 |
xubuntu64w | indeed | 15:38 |
tomreyn | does copy and paste to and from putty not work for you? | 15:39 |
xubuntu64w | I've tried ctrl c and v but nothing | 15:39 |
tomreyn | i.e. do you need to retype any commands i write here? | 15:39 |
xubuntu64w | yes. in manual mode typing. | 15:39 |
tomreyn | echo test << copy this to clipboard, then press middle mouse button on putty to paste. | 15:40 |
tomreyn | i *think* this works, but not certain - it's been a while that i used putty | 15:40 |
xubuntu64w | That's a go Huston! | 15:40 |
xubuntu64w | Thanks I need that middle mouse button paste. | 15:41 |
tomreyn | great | 15:43 |
tomreyn | so now: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) | 15:43 |
xubuntu64w | ? | 15:43 |
xubuntu64w | what does that command do? | 15:44 |
tomreyn | oh wait this wont work yet | 15:44 |
tomreyn | so now: nc 5.39.93.71 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) | 15:44 |
tomreyn | this command line gathers basic informatio on your system and posts it to the termbin.com website | 15:44 |
tomreyn | liek ubuntu version, kerne version and boot parameters etc | 15:45 |
xubuntu64w | The system went to sleep and like shut down. weird, had to reboot. | 15:45 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn Ok, termbin.com receving? | 15:47 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn Ok, termbin.com receiving? | 15:47 |
tomreyn | it should, i don't run it | 15:47 |
tomreyn | did you run this? nc 5.39.93.71 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) | 15:47 |
tomreyn | (so not the first variant with "termbin.com")? | 15:47 |
tomreyn | you can run this first if you'd like to see the output you'd be sharing: | 15:48 |
tomreyn | cat < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) | 15:48 |
xubuntu64w | Yes and Ok.? | 15:50 |
tomreyn | what do you mean? | 15:50 |
tomreyn | are you ok with sending this output to termbin.com? | 15:50 |
tomreyn | if so, run this (as told before twice): nc 5.39.93.71 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) | 15:51 |
xubuntu64w | The command was excusted and okay I can see what I'm shareing. | 15:51 |
xubuntu64w | executed... 8-/ | 15:51 |
tomreyn | it will return a http address, please post that here | 15:51 |
tomreyn | if it returns nothing then your system is no longer online | 15:51 |
xubuntu64w | 8dc2r | 15:52 |
tomreyn | lol whats this kernel? | 15:53 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn resent.. https://termbin.com/59b2 | 15:53 |
tomreyn | three years old | 15:53 |
tomreyn | is this an orangepi? | 15:54 |
xubuntu64w | kernel .. not most recent? | 15:54 |
tomreyn | this kernel has gatehered security vulnerabilities for 3 years | 15:54 |
xubuntu64w | 3.10.65 Ubuntu | 15:54 |
tomreyn | 3.10.65 yes, ubuntu no | 15:55 |
tomreyn | so what hardware is this? | 15:55 |
xubuntu64w | orange pi | 15:55 |
tomreyn | see how i asked this above? | 15:55 |
xubuntu64w | uodate kernel? | 15:55 |
tomreyn | :) | 15:55 |
tomreyn | not sure you can, sorry i can't support this | 15:55 |
xubuntu64w | Tom! 8-) What? Yes, | 15:56 |
xubuntu64w | NP. TY! | 15:56 |
tomreyn | what you have there is not a standard ubuntu installation | 15:56 |
xubuntu64w | Sorry Tomreyn | 15:56 |
tomreyn | and we only support those | 15:56 |
tomreyn | or i do, others may support other setups | 15:57 |
Noboru55 | Hello everybody, i am in doubt, for good computers, like 8gb ram, core i5, is better to install Ubuntu? or Xubuntu continue to be the best option? | 15:57 |
tomreyn | xubuntu64w: here's a newer download which claims to be ubuntu (but it is not, it's something that once was ubuntu, modified to actually work on this hardware) http://www.orangepi.org/downloadresources/OrangePi3/2019-01-23/orangepi3_82ad209229e957e13fa953491c.html | 15:57 |
tomreyn | other options for this hardware http://www.orangepi.org/downloadresources/ | 15:58 |
tomreyn | Noboru55: either works you choose. | 15:58 |
xubuntu64w | Tomreyn Got ya. OKay. The factory OS is Sigh. 8-( | 15:59 |
Noboru55 | tomreyn really? i like more the xfce... | 15:59 |
tomreyn | Noboru55: yes, it's really your choice | 15:59 |
Noboru55 | tomreyn asking because i want to uninstall the windows in my wife's laptop, for while she doesnt like, just waiting for some virus... | 16:00 |
tomreyn | xubuntu64w: in case this is orange pi zero, here's another canonical product you can install there https://ubuntu.com/download/iot/orange-pi-zero | 16:00 |
tomreyn | ubuntu core is not the same as ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop, though | 16:00 |
Noboru55 | couz in linux i never use the software to clean virus | 16:00 |
xubuntu64w | This is OrangePi PC2 | 16:01 |
xubuntu64w | Tomreyn This is OrangePi PC2 | 16:01 |
Noboru55 | tomreyn thank you! | 16:01 |
tomreyn | xubuntu64w: i have no first hand experience with this device. you may be able to find some buntu like pre-installed images which can work on this platform. it's probably an armhf. | 16:03 |
tomreyn | there's #ubuntu-arm for such devices | 16:04 |
tomreyn | but it's not very busy | 16:04 |
Noboru55 | tomreyn ah, a question, only for my curious, why the live usb works fine and the o.s installed in usb do not works good ? do u know ? | 16:04 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn Thanks for the assistance. Yes it is armv7 I believe. It's a SBC SOC Development board. | 16:05 |
xubuntu64w | tomreyn W@hen you stated it was not a standard Ubuntu installation, was that in reference to the hardware or the Kernel? I'm inclined, you meant the hardware. | 16:15 |
tomreyn | xubuntu64w: standard ubuntu only supports the amd64 architecture. there are ports for other architectures, but only community support for these. | 16:24 |
tomreyn | on ARM platforms you face two issues: kernels often require hardware specific patching, there are default armhf (and arm64) kernels but they son't work for every system since hardware varies too much. as a result, and due to architectural differences, installing is not possible the 'default' (aMd64) way | 16:27 |
tomreyn | (also staging kernel updates for boot works differently, flash-kernel) | 16:28 |
Noboru55 | hello everybody, is the xubuntu 19.10 better than 18.04 ? | 19:19 |
diogenes_ | Noboru55, it depends. | 19:20 |
Noboru55 | diogenes_ depends ? of what, my ram ? or... | 19:20 |
diogenes_ | Noboru55, on hardware. | 19:21 |
Noboru55 | diogenes_ the 19.10 needs a powerfull hardware? | 19:21 |
Noboru55 | diogenes_what processor and ram requeriments ? do u know ? | 19:22 |
diogenes_ | Noboru55, no, i mean the nwest kernel might not run on some reallt old hardware also 19.10 is 64bit only (afaik). | 19:23 |
kadiro | 18.04 is lts 19.10 is not | 19:23 |
Noboru55 | i see | 19:23 |
Noboru55 | i have nothing to lose, i will try, and if i dislike i back to 18.04 | 19:24 |
Noboru55 | thank u 2 | 19:24 |
diogenes_ | it's worth trying though so go ahead. | 19:24 |
Noboru55 | going to do it | 19:25 |
Noboru55 | 1 minute left to complete the download | 19:25 |
Noboru55 | torrent ^ ^ | 19:25 |
diogenes_ | i installed it on intel atom small 2gb ram netboot and it runs fast. | 19:25 |
Noboru55 | owo | 19:25 |
Noboru55 | here i have.. dual core 1.6 4gbm ram ddr3 ... but intel graphics share 64mb memory | 19:25 |
diogenes_ | can even run heavy ms office via wine on that netbook. | 19:26 |
Noboru55 | so i will not worry couz every little thing gonna be alright | 19:26 |
Noboru55 | i preffer libre office | 19:26 |
diogenes_ | Noboru55, yes you're fine. | 19:26 |
Noboru55 | download complete | 19:26 |
Noboru55 | see u | 19:27 |
diogenes_ | i prefer libreoffice too but you can't teach the old school principal new tricks :) | 19:27 |
diogenes_ | ok good luck. | 19:27 |
Noboru55 | its right.. thank u again | 19:27 |
xubuntu67w | how to deaktivate the lock of the screen if i am watching a video the screen lock autmatically after about 15 or 20 minutes | 19:41 |
diogenes_ | xumactivate presentation mode. | 19:43 |
diogenes_ | activate* | 19:43 |
xubuntu67w | where to activate the presentation mode 19.04 there were no issues with this but in 19.10 | 19:45 |
diogenes_ | add power manager plugin to panel. | 19:47 |
xubuntu67w | thank you found it | 19:48 |
diogenes_ | np | 19:48 |
kadiro | I removed screensaver and disabled the power manager my self to solve that problem | 19:52 |
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xubuntu67w | after i activated the presentationmode i waited for one hour and there was no screen lock the advice to activate the presentationmode to avoid the automatikally screenlock works very well thanks for the advice | 21:03 |
Noboru55 | hello, when the keyboard doesn't work in grub, is there something to do to fix it ? i see nothing in my bios about it.. so.. | 21:04 |
Noboru55 | do not know what to do | 21:04 |
Noboru55 | would grub2 fix it? perhaps? | 21:07 |
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isthis4real57468 | almost sure but just to confirm...the livepatch feature is only for ubuntu lts proper? not the de versions? | 22:19 |
krytarik | isthis4real57468: Does not matter really. | 22:20 |
tomreyn | i think there's only support for LTS kernels, yes | 22:20 |
isthis4real57468 | krytarik, are you talking from personal experience, have you gotten it working for some time? | 22:26 |
krytarik | Nope, I don't care about Livepatch really, but all flavors are technically Ubuntu so it should work there as well. | 22:28 |
tomreyn | https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/ef19ede0-Datasheet_Livepatch_AW_Web_30.07.18.pdf | 22:33 |
tomreyn | see "System requirements" | 22:33 |
tomreyn | also here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch | 22:33 |
sm0rux | How can I get 'echo -e "\a"' to create a beep in my PC speaker? Using xfce4-terminal on 18.04. | 22:58 |
diogenes_ | sm0rux, first see if pcspkr module is loaded. | 23:06 |
sm0rux | It is not commented out (no # sign) in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | 23:07 |
kadiro | I think the pcspkr is blacklisted by default | 23:07 |
diogenes_ | lsmod | grep pcspkr | 23:08 |
kadiro | you can install beep | 23:08 |
kadiro | In my case beep command works fine but with echo command never worked | 23:09 |
sm0rux | lsmod | grep pcspkr gives nothing | 23:09 |
diogenes_ | sm0rux, it mans it's not loaded. | 23:11 |
kadiro | sm0rux> try to load it first | 23:11 |
sm0rux | OK | 23:11 |
kadiro | something like sudo modprobe pcspkr | 23:11 |
diogenes_ | also check: grep "pcspkr" -r /etc/modprobe.d | 23:13 |
sm0rux | Now I see it using lsmod | grep pcspkr | 23:15 |
sm0rux | Still no sound then giving echo -e "\a" | 23:15 |
diogenes_ | play -q -n synth 0.1 sin 880 || echo -e "\a" | 23:16 |
sm0rux | Hey - it beeped :) | 23:16 |
diogenes_ | cool | 23:17 |
kadiro | good | 23:17 |
kadiro | your situation and mine are the same | 23:17 |
kadiro | the echo can't work | 23:17 |
diogenes_ | you can modify 880 to you liking. | 23:17 |
sm0rux | Can I modify the the volume? Tried the -v setting, but no difference between -v 1 and -v 1000 | 23:19 |
kadiro | add vol x.x | 23:19 |
kadiro | ex vol 0.5 | 23:19 |
kadiro | play -n synth 0.1 sine 880 vol 0.5 | 23:20 |
sm0rux | Brilliant! | 23:20 |
kadiro | you will end using morse with that command :D | 23:21 |
sm0rux | I doubt I will... especially not after working like 30 hours in CQ WW SSB this weekend :) | 23:24 |
kadiro | oh I see | 23:24 |
sm0rux | kadiro: Are you a ham? | 23:26 |
kadiro | sm0rux> my english is not good, what is ham | 23:26 |
sm0rux | play -q -n synth 0.1 sin 880 vol 0.02 | 23:26 |
sm0rux | Ooops :) | 23:27 |
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