=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [03:39] love xubuntu but i get a broken package thatsays it cant mount gnome then it tries to remove shim and ends up trying to recover [03:43] E;sub process E: systemd-shim: installed systemd-shim package post-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 2 [03:45] the desktop still works fine but the package manager won't get past the systemd shim remove error === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello [15:20] Failed to start session? 8-/ [15:21] hi there. are you looking for help with this? [15:22] Thank You. Yes, I've done the upgrade and the login screen gives error on correct user name and password. === sorinello1 is now known as sorinello [15:24] I've done a few things. Mostly tty ttl port and fix broken etc. apt upgrade apt update. It says I have 9xx updates but they don't seem to update? [15:25] xubuntu64w: ok, please type "tomreyn" when responding after more than a minute so i won't miss your reply. which upgrade did you do? if you don't know, please switch to a terminal, login and run "lsb_release -ds". [15:25] !tty [15:25] To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [15:26] i assume you'r enow connected to the internet from a different system? [15:26] i mean for the chat [15:26] tomreyn "905 updates can be installed immediately" [15:26] Yes Tom. [15:27] I'm ttl logged into the unit. [15:27] "ttl"? [15:27] putty [15:27] so logged in via ssh remotely, ok [15:27] sorry, this is all a bit new to me. Yes, SSH [15:28] does the system seem to have internet access still? ping -c2 1.1.1.1 reports what o the last line of output? [15:28] actually last but one line, the one with 2 packets transmitted... [15:29] lol, syasy for more ping see details. [15:29] what happens when you type: echo test | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:29] does it return a http address? [15:29] woops dyslexic [15:30] 0% loss two received [15:31] okay so you have internet access. what about the echo.... thing? [15:31] tomreyn checkign echo [15:33] tomreyn Hmm. echo test | nc termbin.com 9999 temp failure name resultion [15:35] xubuntu64w: echo test | nc 5.39.93.71 9999 [15:35] tomreyn What about the 905 updates immediately available? What command will install them? [15:36] none if your system is unable to resolve names [15:36] i'm trying to enable yu to share some command output with me on the internet [15:37] once that's done (we're very close) we can look into getting a better understanding why the updates can't be installed [15:37] it will be much easier for me to understand what's failing then [15:38] 4wpf? [15:38] i guess you mean https://termbin.com/4wpf [15:38] tomreyn https://termbin.com/4wpf [15:38] indeed [15:39] does copy and paste to and from putty not work for you? [15:39] I've tried ctrl c and v but nothing [15:39] i.e. do you need to retype any commands i write here? [15:39] yes. in manual mode typing. [15:40] echo test << copy this to clipboard, then press middle mouse button on putty to paste. [15:40] i *think* this works, but not certain - it's been a while that i used putty [15:40] That's a go Huston! [15:41] Thanks I need that middle mouse button paste. [15:43] great [15:43] so now: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) [15:43] ? [15:44] what does that command do? [15:44] oh wait this wont work yet [15:44] so now: nc 5.39.93.71 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) [15:44] this command line gathers basic informatio on your system and posts it to the termbin.com website [15:45] liek ubuntu version, kerne version and boot parameters etc [15:45] The system went to sleep and like shut down. weird, had to reboot. [15:47] tomreyn Ok, termbin.com receving? [15:47] tomreyn Ok, termbin.com receiving? [15:47] it should, i don't run it [15:47] did you run this? nc 5.39.93.71 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) [15:47] (so not the first variant with "termbin.com")? [15:48] you can run this first if you'd like to see the output you'd be sharing: [15:48] cat < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) [15:50] Yes and Ok.? [15:50] what do you mean? [15:50] are you ok with sending this output to termbin.com? [15:51] if so, run this (as told before twice): nc 5.39.93.71 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) [15:51] The command was excusted and okay I can see what I'm shareing. [15:51] executed... 8-/ [15:51] it will return a http address, please post that here [15:51] if it returns nothing then your system is no longer online [15:52] 8dc2r [15:53] lol whats this kernel? [15:53] tomreyn resent.. https://termbin.com/59b2 [15:53] three years old [15:54] is this an orangepi? [15:54] kernel .. not most recent? [15:54] this kernel has gatehered security vulnerabilities for 3 years [15:54] 3.10.65 Ubuntu [15:55] 3.10.65 yes, ubuntu no [15:55] so what hardware is this? [15:55] orange pi [15:55] see how i asked this above? [15:55] uodate kernel? [15:55] :) [15:55] not sure you can, sorry i can't support this [15:56] Tom! 8-) What? Yes, [15:56] NP. TY! [15:56] what you have there is not a standard ubuntu installation [15:56] Sorry Tomreyn [15:56] and we only support those [15:57] or i do, others may support other setups [15:57] Hello everybody, i am in doubt, for good computers, like 8gb ram, core i5, is better to install Ubuntu? or Xubuntu continue to be the best option? [15:57] xubuntu64w: here's a newer download which claims to be ubuntu (but it is not, it's something that once was ubuntu, modified to actually work on this hardware) http://www.orangepi.org/downloadresources/OrangePi3/2019-01-23/orangepi3_82ad209229e957e13fa953491c.html [15:58] other options for this hardware http://www.orangepi.org/downloadresources/ [15:58] Noboru55: either works you choose. [15:59] Tomreyn Got ya. OKay. The factory OS is Sigh. 8-( [15:59] tomreyn really? i like more the xfce... [15:59] Noboru55: yes, it's really your choice [16:00] tomreyn asking because i want to uninstall the windows in my wife's laptop, for while she doesnt like, just waiting for some virus... [16:00] xubuntu64w: in case this is orange pi zero, here's another canonical product you can install there https://ubuntu.com/download/iot/orange-pi-zero [16:00] ubuntu core is not the same as ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop, though [16:00] couz in linux i never use the software to clean virus [16:01] This is OrangePi PC2 [16:01] Tomreyn This is OrangePi PC2 [16:01] tomreyn thank you! [16:03] xubuntu64w: i have no first hand experience with this device. you may be able to find some buntu like pre-installed images which can work on this platform. it's probably an armhf. [16:04] there's #ubuntu-arm for such devices [16:04] but it's not very busy [16:04] tomreyn ah, a question, only for my curious, why the live usb works fine and the o.s installed in usb do not works good ? do u know ? [16:05] tomreyn Thanks for the assistance. Yes it is armv7 I believe. It's a SBC SOC Development board. [16:15] tomreyn W@hen you stated it was not a standard Ubuntu installation, was that in reference to the hardware or the Kernel? I'm inclined, you meant the hardware. [16:24] xubuntu64w: standard ubuntu only supports the amd64 architecture. there are ports for other architectures, but only community support for these. [16:27] on ARM platforms you face two issues: kernels often require hardware specific patching, there are default armhf (and arm64) kernels but they son't work for every system since hardware varies too much. as a result, and due to architectural differences, installing is not possible the 'default' (aMd64) way [16:28] (also staging kernel updates for boot works differently, flash-kernel) [19:19] hello everybody, is the xubuntu 19.10 better than 18.04 ? [19:20] Noboru55, it depends. [19:20] diogenes_ depends ? of what, my ram ? or... [19:21] Noboru55, on hardware. [19:21] diogenes_ the 19.10 needs a powerfull hardware? [19:22] diogenes_what processor and ram requeriments ? do u know ? [19:23] Noboru55, no, i mean the nwest kernel might not run on some reallt old hardware also 19.10 is 64bit only (afaik). [19:23] 18.04 is lts 19.10 is not [19:23] i see [19:24] i have nothing to lose, i will try, and if i dislike i back to 18.04 [19:24] thank u 2 [19:24] it's worth trying though so go ahead. [19:25] going to do it [19:25] 1 minute left to complete the download [19:25] torrent ^ ^ [19:25] i installed it on intel atom small 2gb ram netboot and it runs fast. [19:25] owo [19:25] here i have.. dual core 1.6 4gbm ram ddr3 ... but intel graphics share 64mb memory [19:26] can even run heavy ms office via wine on that netbook. [19:26] so i will not worry couz every little thing gonna be alright [19:26] i preffer libre office [19:26] Noboru55, yes you're fine. [19:26] download complete [19:27] see u [19:27] i prefer libreoffice too but you can't teach the old school principal new tricks :) [19:27] ok good luck. [19:27] its right.. thank u again [19:41] how to deaktivate the lock of the screen if i am watching a video the screen lock autmatically after about 15 or 20 minutes [19:43] xumactivate presentation mode. [19:43] activate* [19:45] where to activate the presentation mode 19.04 there were no issues with this but in 19.10 [19:47] add power manager plugin to panel. [19:48] thank you found it [19:48] np [19:52] I removed screensaver and disabled the power manager my self to solve that problem === kadiro_ is now known as kadiro [21:03] after i activated the presentationmode i waited for one hour and there was no screen lock the advice to activate the presentationmode to avoid the automatikally screenlock works very well thanks for the advice [21:04] hello, when the keyboard doesn't work in grub, is there something to do to fix it ? i see nothing in my bios about it.. so.. [21:04] do not know what to do [21:07] would grub2 fix it? perhaps? === kadiro_ is now known as kadiro === kadiro_ is now known as kadiro === mnepton is now known as mneptok [22:19] almost sure but just to confirm...the livepatch feature is only for ubuntu lts proper? not the de versions? [22:20] isthis4real57468: Does not matter really. [22:20] i think there's only support for LTS kernels, yes [22:26] krytarik, are you talking from personal experience, have you gotten it working for some time? [22:28] Nope, I don't care about Livepatch really, but all flavors are technically Ubuntu so it should work there as well. [22:33] https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/ef19ede0-Datasheet_Livepatch_AW_Web_30.07.18.pdf [22:33] see "System requirements" [22:33] also here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch [22:58] How can I get 'echo -e "\a"' to create a beep in my PC speaker? Using xfce4-terminal on 18.04. [23:06] sm0rux, first see if pcspkr module is loaded. [23:07] It is not commented out (no # sign) in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [23:07] I think the pcspkr is blacklisted by default [23:08] lsmod | grep pcspkr [23:08] you can install beep [23:09] In my case beep command works fine but with echo command never worked [23:09] lsmod | grep pcspkr gives nothing [23:11] sm0rux, it mans it's not loaded. [23:11] sm0rux> try to load it first [23:11] OK [23:11] something like sudo modprobe pcspkr [23:13] also check: grep "pcspkr" -r /etc/modprobe.d [23:15] Now I see it using lsmod | grep pcspkr [23:15] Still no sound then giving echo -e "\a" [23:16] play -q -n synth 0.1 sin 880 || echo -e "\a" [23:16] Hey - it beeped :) [23:17] cool [23:17] good [23:17] your situation and mine are the same [23:17] the echo can't work [23:17] you can modify 880 to you liking. [23:19] Can I modify the the volume? Tried the -v setting, but no difference between -v 1 and -v 1000 [23:19] add vol x.x [23:19] ex vol 0.5 [23:20] play -n synth 0.1 sine 880 vol 0.5 [23:20] Brilliant! [23:21] you will end using morse with that command :D [23:24] I doubt I will... especially not after working like 30 hours in CQ WW SSB this weekend :) [23:24] oh I see [23:26] kadiro: Are you a ham? [23:26] sm0rux> my english is not good, what is ham [23:26] play -q -n synth 0.1 sin 880 vol 0.02 [23:27] Ooops :)