[09:47] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2019-October/040834.html
[09:53] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> (Photo, 755x596) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/AknNKunN/file_19430.jpg
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:05] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ImDFjiq28
[18:35]  * clivejo wonders if this is the cycle Rik will finally go for MOTU
[18:36] <RikMills> clivejo: I already have MOTU
[18:38] <clivejo> oupppss
[18:38] <clivejo> DD then!
[18:40] <RikMills> core-dev?
[18:40] <clivejo> I forget the name for it
[18:40] <clivejo> Archive admin
[18:40] <RikMills> DD is not realist (or needed)
[18:40] <RikMills> clivejo: funny you should say that....
[18:40] <clivejo> sponsoring packages for the mere mortals
[18:41] <clivejo> I been out of the loop for so long I forget the terms!
[18:45] <clivejo> RikMills: You need to make Qt great again
[18:46] <RikMills> that would require killing off wenengine
[18:46] <RikMills> *webengine
[18:46] <clivejo> LOL
[18:47] <vip> Hi there
[18:48] <vip> I cannot run akonadi because of apparmor; anybody know the issue?
[18:49] <RikMills> vip: on what release?
[18:50] <RikMills> if 19.10, you need to switch to mariadb
[18:50] <vip> eoan + kde backports 
[18:53] <RikMills> apt install install mariadb-client-core-10.3 mariadb-server-core-10.3
[18:53] <RikMills> only one install though. duh
[18:54] <RikMills> vip: akonadi doesn't work with mysql-8, even if you completely disable apparmor
[18:54] <vip> thanks
[18:55] <RikMills> we have a bit of an issue there where if people use akonadi, and must have the official mysql installed, one or the other will break
[18:55] <RikMills> which is why I didn't try to force mysql off people's systems
[18:59] <RikMills> clivejo says akonadi works better with mariadb
[19:00] <vip> unfortunately I need mysql for my local development
[19:02] <RikMills> vip: I think mysql have an apt repo? maybe you can install 5.7 from that for the time being?
[19:02] <RikMills> sadly Ubuntu removed 5.7 from the repo here
[19:04] <RikMills> KDE PIM devs only seem to use mariadb to test nowadays
[19:05] <vip> hmm, apparmor complains about mariadb, the daemon does not start
[19:05] <vip> I want to install server too, instead of mysql
[19:06] <RikMills> I tested with mariadb. akonadi started ok