[01:05] <isthis4real57468> where would i get help for going from a netboot image to xubuntu (or lubuntu - really, but i prefer xfce)
[01:05] <isthis4real57468> there are daily netboot images on the cdimages mirror...called cd[otherstuff].iso - maybe 50mb max, i think.
[01:12] <Unit193> Basically, it should give you a tasksel screen which asks you which desktop you want.
[02:01] <jdwwatts> new install
[06:30] <Regor> whats the usage of "Mail reader" ? i already purged thunderbird(and some default apps) after installation . i use only neomutt .
[07:00] <diogenes_> Regor, afaik mail reader is just a frontend where you can specify what is your fav mail client (same as 'web browser').
[07:13] <Regor> yeah i got it 😀️
[13:42] <EvaristeGalois> Careful when removing mail reader through 'Software'
[13:43] <EvaristeGalois> Doing that deleted my xubuntu desktop environment more than once
[13:43] <EvaristeGalois> Regor:
[14:08] <DarkTrick> (A) How do I manage to get a coredump of a custom application?  (xubuntu 19) ulimit doesn't seem to help, stopping apport doesn't seem to help.
[14:20] <Regor> there is no " software"  fortunately ! i purged all default crap(thunderbird,parole,atril,software,packgekit.....etc)   ! 😀.  i love apt/synaptic . whats the package name of " mail reader " ? EvaristeGalois
[14:21] <DarkTrick> solved: create ~/.config/apport/settings with [main]\nunpackaged=true and ulimit -c unlimited did it.
[14:21] <GridCube> if you didn't want any of those things why didn't you just installed xubuntu-core?
[14:21] <GridCube> instead of uninstalling stuff
[14:22] <EvaristeGalois> Regor: haven't looked for it yet, I just keep it installed as it is not taking resources anyway
[14:22] <EvaristeGalois> and Synaptic Package Manager is great indeed
[14:23] <EvaristeGalois> GridCube: There is such a thing as xubuntu-core?
[14:23] <Regor> yeah..i am not touching it .
[14:24] <GridCube> !package xubuntu-core
[14:24] <GridCube> mmmm
[14:25] <Regor> i have to install bionic on dell so i would think for minimum base
[14:25] <GridCube> https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xubuntu-core
[14:26] <GridCube> apparently there isn't one for 19.10?
[14:26] <GridCube> weird
[14:26] <GridCube> oh wait
[14:26] <GridCube> there is https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/xubuntu-core
[14:27] <GridCube> ah the bot command was
[14:27] <GridCube> !info xubuntu-core
[14:28] <Regor> thats cool 😁️
[14:28] <EvaristeGalois> Oh I had something else in mind, like an ISO file which could be run on a live usb
[14:28] <Regor> i thought similar !
[14:29] <GridCube> all iso files can be run live from usb
[14:30] <EvaristeGalois> but xubuntu-core is not that, I'd have no idea how to clean install xubuntu with that package alone
[14:30] <Regor> EvaristeGalois: you dont check live session ?
[14:31] <Regor> specially drivers may be mess in new laptops..
[14:32] <GridCube> EvaristeGalois: https://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/
[14:34] <EvaristeGalois> Oh goodie, thanks GridCube
[14:35] <Regor> GridCube: thanks 👍️
[14:35] <GridCube> though it's weird that there isn't a mini for 19.10 that i can see
[14:36] <EvaristeGalois> I want LTS anyway, so no biggie
[14:36] <Regor> yes. LTS is great
[14:42] <EvaristeGalois> GridCube: https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-19-10-released/
[14:42] <EvaristeGalois> the mini version is available after all
[14:42] <GridCube> oh right
[14:42] <GridCube> Unit193 made an iso directly XD
[14:42] <GridCube> XD
[14:43] <GridCube> silly me
[14:44] <ubuking> hey!
[14:47] <EvaristeGalois> I feel extremely compelled to format my system and install xubuntu-core, even though everything works
[14:48] <EvaristeGalois> The feeling of new and clean system is so satisfying
[14:49] <Regor> EvaristeGalois: what is minimum ram usage after boot ?
[14:50] <EvaristeGalois> no idea
[14:51] <Regor> mine is 280 mb on 64bit !
[14:54] <tomreyn> you must be running half an ubuntu server
[14:58] <Regor> oh ! its only desktop
[15:23] <EvaristeGalois> Does anyone know of a program with GUI to make a live usb
[15:23] <EvaristeGalois> That runs on linux
[15:23] <EvaristeGalois> I've only got good ones that run on Windows
[15:25] <GridCube> EvaristeGalois: unetbootin
[15:27] <EvaristeGalois> thx
[19:58] <xubuntu23w> hi there
[20:00] <xubuntu23w> i notice some strange behaviour on xubuntu 19.10. After i activated "Autologin" for my only and default user, everytime after boot the login dialog still appears but without an input field. i can still press the login button, and can work properly after taht. but i dont know how to fix that ?!?? is this a bug ??
[20:02] <diogenes_> xubuntu23w, upgrade or fresh install?
[20:02] <xubuntu23w> fresh install
[20:03] <diogenes_> preserved /home from previous installations?
[20:03] <xubuntu23w> nope. totally wiped disk
[20:03] <xubuntu23w> but i also a a crash report after boot
[20:03] <xubuntu23w> i send it twice.
[20:04] <xubuntu23w> its a crash about xorg stuff
[20:04] <xubuntu23w> using nvidia 340 drivers - its an old zotac with neon chipset
[20:06] <diogenes_> so you ticked autologin in the installer but since the first boot you see the login manager or it started to appear after installing nvidia drivers?
[20:07] <xubuntu23w> i would swear i ticked autologin during install. but the login prompt still appeared. after that i manuall set autologin for the account. than this happened
[20:08] <xubuntu23w> the nvidia driver could be invvoled as i directly after first boot set the driver.
[20:08] <xubuntu23w> but im not totally sure if the login prompt problem was immediately there
[20:08] <diogenes_> how you set manually?
[20:09] <xubuntu23w> by goin into settings->users and groups. and the press the 3rd field
[20:10] <xubuntu23w> "change ..."
[20:10] <diogenes_> run: ls /etc/lightdm | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:10] <diogenes_> share the link.
[20:10] <xubuntu23w> moment .. will take some thime to do that
[20:10] <diogenes_> ok
[20:11] <xubuntu23w> its another machine
[20:11] <diogenes_> np
[20:15] <xubuntu23w> here im back again with the following result
[20:15] <xubuntu23w> https://termbin.com/ww12
[20:15] <xubuntu23w> whatever that is ??
[20:23] <xubuntu23w> diogenes_ ? r u there ?
[20:23] <diogenes_> now run: grep "autologin" -r /etc/lightdm/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:23] <diogenes_> same thing paste here.
[20:23] <xubuntu23w> moment
[20:27] <xubuntu23w> here is the result:
[20:27] <xubuntu23w> https://termbin.com/39ki
[20:28] <diogenes_> xubuntu23w, and now run: whoami
[20:28] <diogenes_> and just write into the chat
[20:28] <xubuntu23w> whoami gives "xubuntu" whic is the corrent username
[20:29] <diogenes_> ok, do you hava any encrypted drives?
[20:30] <xubuntu23w> nope
[20:30] <xubuntu23w> the only thing nonstandard is a virtualbox 6.14 installaltion from regular repo
[20:31] <xubuntu23w> or 6.0.14 it is
[20:31] <diogenes_> then the only thing i could think of, is if we can narrow it down to the graphics driver, if the system boots fine without the nvidia proprietary driver then that's it, you can run it off of the usb live session and see if it boots fine.
[20:33] <xubuntu23w> well in order to get the xubuntu installation going i had to install the system in another minipc i have. i selected the nuveau drivers, then i moved the disk to the current box. the dvd did not wanted to boot otherwise
[20:34] <xubuntu23w> then on the zotac i set the drivers.
[20:34] <xubuntu23w> its runs well otherwise
[20:35] <xubuntu23w> yes. its sounds terrible, i know
[20:36] <diogenes_> when you boot the live system you don't select nouveau drivers because they are default.
[20:36] <xubuntu23w> yes but the live system dont want to boot at all on the zotac box
[20:36] <xubuntu23w> the bios of this thing is terrible
[20:38] <xubuntu23w> well the other machine had antoher nvida chpset .. a newer one
[20:38] <diogenes_> then see if you can update the bios.
[20:38] <xubuntu23w> cant.
[20:38] <xubuntu23w> too old
[20:38] <xubuntu23w> :(
[20:39] <xubuntu23w> there never was another
[20:39] <xubuntu23w> already checked
[20:39] <xubuntu23w> but ok. man thanks for your effort. i hope during the usual updates for this xubuntu relase thins will be ironed out
[20:40] <xubuntu23w> so far the box works otherwise
[20:40] <diogenes_> at least it boots and works and that's good.
[20:40] <xubuntu23w> digones, youre my man. thanky for your friendly support.
[20:40] <xubuntu23w> bye
[20:40] <diogenes_> yw
[20:48] <sublevel> Anyone recommend a GUI text editor that can extract regex matches? I use geany but its search results include the filename, line number and full line - I just want the part that matches the regex
[20:48] <sublevel> (I can do it with cli tools but sometimes gui is more convenient)
[21:19] <lastebill1> hi, I just did a clean install of xubuntu.  I changed from stock ubuntu because standby modus seem to work, unlike on stock ubuntu.  However, there's a (minor) issue.  When I close the lid and reopen it, the screen is always black.  I need to close and open it again to activate the screen.  Is this a known issue?
[21:44] <lastebill1> is there an easy way to increase the size of the menues and such without decreasing the resolution?
[21:51] <mat88> @lastebill1, in appearence settings in the font tab, you can set the DPI or the font size
[21:51] <mat88> Don't know if it is what you are looking for
[21:53] <kadiro> My problem stay insolved, I don't know if i will change xubuntu with something else
[21:55] <tomreyn> you don't expect people to know what "my problem" is, do you?
[21:55] <lastebill1> mat88 thanks, now I can actually see what's going on!
[21:56] <lastebill1> mat88 sucks getting older with poorer eye sight...
[21:56] <mat88> @lastebill1, Happy to help
[21:56] <kadiro> I asked many times but none had a clue on what caused it, it was the gaps between the boot message and lightdm session to show up, just a black screen for about 30 sec
[21:57] <kadiro> In debian it is fast as hell
[21:57] <kadiro> I even removed many useless services
[21:57] <sublevel> I tweaked font size too but mainly due to 1080p on a 14" laptop
[21:58] <lastebill1> sublevel seeing what's going on is just such a benefit
[21:59] <kadiro> services that i removed: snapd, woopsie, disabled motd thing and may be others
[22:00] <kadiro> thats the problem
[22:01] <lastebill1> kadiro I'll have to look into that and see what services I don't need.
[22:06] <kadiro> bug from 2013 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1129157 and they still don't know what caused it or even what was the solution
[22:11] <lastebill1> seems like the screensaver was causing the issue actually, after disabling it, no more black screen after shutting and opening the lid
[22:12] <kadiro> I removed it my self
[22:20] <Unit193> light-locker?  It's been known to have some issues, I'd prefer xscreensaver or xfce4-screensaver.