| handsome_feng | /set net_ping_timeout 0 | 00:56 |
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| handsome_feng | Sorry... | 00:57 |
| jibel | hi all | 06:12 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:37 |
| jibel | salut didrocks | 06:37 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 06:40 |
| duflu | Morning jibel and didrocks | 07:38 |
| * duflu is incredibly frustrated at replacing the same taps 3 times in 2 days and is glad to be sitting at a desk again | 07:39 | |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 07:43 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:44 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 07:46 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:46 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN | 07:47 |
| oSoMoN | salut diddledan | 07:47 |
| oSoMoN | darn stupid tab completion | 07:47 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:47 |
| oSoMoN | also, good morning diddledan :) | 07:47 |
| duflu | Now we need an 'oSoSiMiLaR' | 07:49 |
| oSoMoN | and a 'dufnotquitelu' | 07:51 |
| mwhudson | oSoMoN: would it inconvenience you if i uploaded cargo 0.39 to focal? | 08:01 |
| mwhudson | (and maybe the new rustc too although that's being awkward) | 08:01 |
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| oSoMoN | mwhudson, that should be fine | 08:07 |
| oSoMoN | what's awkward about it? | 08:07 |
| mwhudson | oSoMoN: well, maybe i should say non-trivial | 08:07 |
| mwhudson | i did an upstream update in a lazy way and it fails to build | 08:08 |
| mwhudson | whereas cargo 0.39 was actually much easier than 0.37 -> 0.38 | 08:08 |
| seb128 | goooood morning desktopers | 08:16 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 08:17 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme aujourd'hui ? | 08:17 |
| didrocks | ça va, et toi ? | 08:17 |
| seb128 | ça va bien! | 08:17 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 08:18 |
| seb128 | hey duflu | 08:21 |
| seb128 | duflu, how are you? | 08:21 |
| seb128 | duflu, sorry for not commenting on the IS trello card when the RT was sent | 08:21 |
| duflu | seb128, Going OK. No problem. How are you? | 08:21 |
| seb128 | I'm good, I went to bed early yesterday, was good to have a longer night :) | 08:22 |
| seb128 | duflu, I'm going to try to build a list of bugs that would be nice to fix tor the LTS, like papercut/polish kind of things, if you have some of those on your list or cross some when trying feel free to tag them/note them down and send them in my direction | 08:23 |
| seb128 | then I'm going to try to argue at the product sprint that we need part of the cycle allocated to work on those | 08:24 |
| duflu | seb128, use rls-ff-incoming or something else? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | something else, incoming are team reviewed in the perspective of being release blockers and then tracked | 08:28 |
| seb128 | those would rather be a wishlist/papercut project | 08:29 |
| seb128 | like things that would make a difference in polish level for the LTS but are not release critical | 08:29 |
| duflu | How about "bugs I can find in the first 5 seconds after logging in" | 08:29 |
| seb128 | those are probably good candidate for polish fixing :) | 08:30 |
| duflu | seb128, I will use a tag of your choosing | 08:30 |
| seb128 | duflu, desktop-lts-wishlist ? | 08:30 |
| duflu | Sure, whatever it is it only needs to be unique | 08:30 |
| seb128 | k, let's use that then | 08:30 |
| seb128 | thx :) | 08:30 |
| duflu | seb128, just remembered I had used 'visual-quality' for that for a few years. Already a long list | 08:32 |
| seb128 | k, I will review that list as well | 08:33 |
| seb128 | don't bother re-tagging those | 08:33 |
| seb128 | wooot, that's quite a list indeed | 08:34 |
| duflu | Lots of Unity stuff in there so mostly ignorable | 08:34 |
| seb128 | I will review it and tag some with the new tag | 08:36 |
| seb128 | jamesh, tkamppeter, (Cc Laney FYI), rls bugs on discourse update reminder | 08:38 |
| seb128 | jamesh, weekly summary also :) | 08:38 |
| jamesh | will do. | 08:38 |
| seb128 | thx | 08:39 |
| duflu | seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=desktop-lts-wishlist | 08:42 |
| seb128 | duflu, that looks like a nice list, thanks! | 08:42 |
| ricotz | godd morning desktopers! | 09:00 |
| oSoMoN | good morning ricotz | 09:00 |
| Laney | hi | 09:01 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hey, looks like one the few cycles where firefox doesn't require a unity patch update | 09:01 |
| ricotz | Laney, hey | 09:01 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, is there further action required on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/1803136 ? | 09:02 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1803136 in vala (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Update to vala 0.40.17 in bionic" [Low,Confirmed] | 09:02 |
| ricotz | like reassigning to release-team? | 09:02 |
| ricotz | I am hoping the package won't be stuck in the queue for weeks | 09:03 |
| seb128 | hey ricotz Laney, how are you? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | ricotz, try pinging the SRU reviewer of the day? (shifts are listed on the wikipage) | 09:07 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, en forme ? | 09:07 |
| oSoMoN | hey Laney | 09:11 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128, la forme, et toi? | 09:11 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, that's very good news, more time for me to focus on backporting thunderbird 68 to stable releases :) | 09:11 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, ca va bien ! | 09:12 |
| ricotz | seb128, thanks! | 09:12 |
| Wimpress | Morning desktoppers | 09:13 |
| seb128 | hey Wimpress, how is u.k today? | 09:15 |
| Wimpress | Well, best described as grey. And cold. | 09:15 |
| Wimpress | How about you? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | nice and sunny | 09:17 |
| oSoMoN | good morning Wimpress | 09:18 |
| didrocks | RAOF: hey, also if you have a minute to look at zsys on eoan (the fix is in -proposed in focal). Currently installing it will prevent you to log in on next reboot, so quite a high one :) | 09:19 |
| Laney | hi ricotz seb128 oSoMoN Wimpress | 09:19 |
| Laney | sunny and nice here | 09:19 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, Wimpress | 09:20 |
| Laney | \o didrocks o/ | 09:23 |
| duflu | Morning ricotz, Wimpress and Laney | 09:25 |
| Laney | ahoy duflu! | 09:25 |
| clobrano | good morning all 0/ | 09:34 |
| seb128 | hey clobrano, how are you? | 09:35 |
| clobrano | hey seb128, I'm good thanks | 09:35 |
| seb128 | clobrano, sorry I didn't really have time to investigate that deb upgrade issue | 09:35 |
| seb128 | did you figure it out? | 09:35 |
| didrocks | hey clobrano | 09:35 |
| clobrano | hey didrocks :) | 09:36 |
| clobrano | seb128, kind of, but I was reviewing deb packages to test it locally | 09:36 |
| clobrano | basically, the PR to allow User Themes switch install gnome-shell in a yaru-gtk created folder | 09:37 |
| clobrano | I think I need to either change something in debian/gnome-shell.install or revert the change, installing gnome-shell again in /usr/share/gnome-shell and symlink it to /usr/share/themes | 09:38 |
| seb128 | what's the issue? the file seemed to be on disk no? | 09:44 |
| seb128 | or is update-alternative not liking the destination to be a symlink? | 09:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you know if https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/blob/master/debian/yaru-theme-gnome-shell.postinst#L7 would have an issue with the file being a symlink? | 09:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, context is https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/blob/master/debian/yaru-theme-gnome-shell.postinst#L7 | 09:52 |
| seb128 | update-alternatives: error: alternative path /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/Yaru/gnome-shell.css doesn't exist | 09:53 |
| seb128 | but the target should be there (it's provided by -gtk which is installed first) | 09:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 09:53 |
| Laney | don't think so | 09:54 |
| marcustomlinson | morning desktoppers | 09:54 |
| Laney | how do you reproduce this issue? | 09:54 |
| Laney | hey marcustomlinson | 09:55 |
| didrocks | I doubt update-alternatives have any issues with the file type as well | 09:55 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 09:55 |
| duflu | Hi marcustomlinson | 10:04 |
| Laney | TFW you can't understand your own code | 10:33 |
| Laney | who wrote this and what was I thinking? | 10:33 |
| seb128 | question of the day...when is the meeting? still in 2 hours from now? or is DST going to confuse again? ;-) | 12:26 |
| Laney | calendar says 2 hours | 12:27 |
| Laney | trust the calendar | 12:27 |
| Laney | although this one http://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/fridge says 18:30 WTF | 12:29 |
| seb128 | :/ | 12:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine and other USers, if it's in 2 hours it probably means shifted by one hour for you guys this week since you didn't have DST yet | 12:30 |
| kenvandine | It does say in 2 hours | 12:36 |
| Laney | seb128: dunno if you missed the message but how do you reproduce that yaru problem? | 12:36 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, that's one hour off compared to your normal local time then right? anyway, as long as you are aware it's all good :) | 12:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, I didn't try to reproduce yet, I just have the urls I shared earlier. but I think it's using this ppa https://launchpad.net/~communitheme/+archive/ubuntu/ppa and upgrading | 12:38 |
| seb128 | Laney, let me try in a bionic chroot see if I hit the issue | 12:38 |
| Laney | ok cheers | 12:39 |
| diddledan | Morning, oSoMoN 😊 auto defeat ftw! | 12:47 |
| oSoMoN | :) | 12:48 |
| seb128 | Laney, clobrano, I can't trigger the bug with dpkg, but I don't have the previous ppa version to try the update scenario | 12:52 |
| seb128 | clobrano, Laney, in any case the -theme-gnome-shell should depends on -gtk if it symlinks to content from there | 12:52 |
| clobrano | seb128, sorry I missed the replies, reading now | 12:53 |
| seb128 | that should also hep ensuring the content of -gtk is unpacked first | 12:53 |
| seb128 | (or is Pre-Depends needed for that?) | 12:53 |
| Laney | nah, postinst -> depends | 12:53 |
| clobrano | seb128, as far as I understood, https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/blob/master/debian/yaru-theme-gnome-shell.postinst#L7 triggers the error message, but I think the problem is before | 12:55 |
| seb128 | clobrano, how before? | 12:56 |
| clobrano | meson build script installs gnome-shel under `/usr/share/themes/Yaru/gnome-shell`, but the folder `/usr/share/themes/Yaru` is created by yaru-gtk | 12:56 |
| clobrano | so if ones install gnome-shell first, or it only wants to install gnome-shell, that folder does not exists | 12:57 |
| seb128 | right, which is why I said you need a Depends added to -theme-gnome-shell | 12:58 |
| clobrano | and if `/usr/share/themes/Yaru/gnome-shell` does not exist, nor its symlink under `/usr/share/gnome-shell` does | 12:58 |
| clobrano | right, but this means one cannot install Yaru gnome-shell without the gtk part, is that a problem? | 12:58 |
| seb128 | well, they can't anyway | 12:59 |
| clobrano | why? | 12:59 |
| seb128 | since you installed the actual shell css in a directory shipped by -gtk | 12:59 |
| seb128 | and make the gnome-shell binary only ship a symlink | 12:59 |
| seb128 | if you remove gtk then your shell css is a broken symlink no? | 13:00 |
| clobrano | oh yes, sure. That's why the other solution. Install gnome-shell under `/usr/share/gnome-shell` as we did before, and symlink into the gtk path | 13:00 |
| seb128 | I don't understand enough of how the theme work / what you are doing to comment on that | 13:01 |
| clobrano | but that wouldn't work either... since at that point the would be the gtk folder that doesn't exist :( | 13:01 |
| seb128 | e.g why do you have that new approach/need to symlink in between directories? | 13:01 |
| didrocks | I really don't think it's sane to ship the g-s css in the gtk directory | 13:02 |
| clobrano | that was to support User Themes gnome-shell extension | 13:02 |
| clobrano | didrocks, I see | 13:02 |
| seb128 | right, which is where it's getting over my theme knowledge | 13:02 |
| seb128 | like I don't know why technically that's the solution to that problem or if that's the right way to do it | 13:03 |
| clobrano | I read some people complaining that `/usr/share/gnome-shell` path is not the place, but I don't really know why | 13:03 |
| didrocks | it's clearly the place, you have /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme created upstream in the past | 13:04 |
| didrocks | it will fetch them there first | 13:04 |
| didrocks | and for themes, then, extensions needs to have a <theme>.css or something like that | 13:04 |
| didrocks | in the extension path | 13:04 |
| didrocks | (which is the weird part, but meh) | 13:04 |
| didrocks | actually, for the extension, it's the mode name | 13:05 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, did you get any success with the libreoffice/focal autopkgtest issue? unsure how you ranked it on your priority list, it's blocking a stack of desktop components in focal-proposed atm, so would be nice to have it looked at in medium-to-high priority if possible | 13:05 |
| seb128 | (unsure if the context was clear from my ping yesterday) | 13:05 |
| didrocks | hence the empty file we ship, like /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-dock@ubuntu.com/ubuntu.css to allow the theme to override it | 13:05 |
| clobrano | didrocks, what about shipping more than one default? Like the light and the dark variant? Both shall be installed in `/usr/share/gnome-shell` | 13:06 |
| clobrano | ? | 13:06 |
| didrocks | yeah, under /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme | 13:07 |
| didrocks | then, for switching them, this needs the extension though | 13:07 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: will be fixed this week when I upload the new version, tomorrow or Thursday | 13:07 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, excellent, thx | 13:07 |
| clobrano | didrocks, I see. I didn't try that first, because according to https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/issues/1483 it seemed that, using /usr/share/gnome-shell, changing session one cannot use Yaru anymore | 13:08 |
| clobrano | but it would be a lot easier to install both themes under /usr/share/gnome-shell/ and not using any symlink | 13:09 |
| didrocks | just seeing the start of the discussion, I doubt the reporter has a deep understanding that there are 2 themes completely separated (gtk and shell) | 13:10 |
| clobrano | installing from source, it actually works with this configuration | 13:11 |
| clobrano | but it creates some issue with the debs | 13:11 |
| didrocks | yeah, I doubt though that once the assets (like imgs) are different, this will work with the alternative | 13:11 |
| didrocks | as you need an alternative on the directory symlink directly | 13:12 |
| clobrano | okay, I'll try with the old installation directory | 13:15 |
| clobrano | didrocks, an unrelated question, we still need the gtk-3.0 and gtk-3.20 folders? | 13:25 |
| didrocks | clobrano: that's more a question for seb128/Laney, I don't think we have apps built with pre-gtk3.20, but better to check with them | 13:26 |
| Laney | that's xenial basically | 13:26 |
| Laney | so if you have to work with xenial's gtk | 13:26 |
| Laney | (or older) | 13:27 |
| didrocks | so as we don't support it, I would say fine for cleaning it up | 13:27 |
| clobrano | Laney, but isn't yaru supported on >bionic? | 13:27 |
| didrocks | (we started pre-bionic, remember? ;)) | 13:27 |
| clobrano | okay, I can use 3.0 only then, right? | 13:28 |
| didrocks | but the release is EOL for quite a long time :) | 13:28 |
| Laney | I dunno, any snap reasons? | 13:28 |
| clobrano | didrocks, yes sure, I was saying right now we support from bionic | 13:28 |
| didrocks | yeah, snaps, good point. It will be interesting to know if any are using an older gtk version | 13:29 |
| didrocks | (as we build the theme snap from the same source) | 13:29 |
| seb128 | didn't jamesh spent weeks working on making the theme work on xenial's gtk for snap reasons? | 13:29 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ | 13:29 |
| Laney | that'd be what a 3.0 is good for | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | seb128: yes | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | seb128: is there an issue? | 13:30 |
| Laney | just answering a question from Carlo | 13:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, if I understood the discussion correctly, I think clobrano was wondering if they could drop the 3.20 folder/support now | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | yes, we need that for snaps on xenial | 13:32 |
| clobrano | seb128, exactly. This comes from a complain on yaru flatpak version and I just wanted to have a valid reply for keep/remove the folder | 13:32 |
| clobrano | kenvandine, perfect | 13:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, but xenial users are on unity with ambiance so why do they need yaru? | 13:33 |
| Laney | current users running a snap with xenial's gtk in it | 13:33 |
| seb128 | oh, that was it of course | 13:33 |
| seb128 | thx Laney :) | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | yup | 13:34 |
| Laney | np | 13:34 |
| Laney | lunch, laterz | 13:34 |
| seb128 | enjoy! | 13:34 |
| hellsworth | isn't it meeting time? | 13:34 |
| seb128 | DST kicked in, it's in one hour | 13:34 |
| clobrano | alright, thanks all :) | 13:34 |
| seb128 | well it did for UK/Europe | 13:34 |
| seb128 | not US yet | 13:34 |
| seb128 | always a fun time for calendars/meetings | 13:34 |
| hellsworth | oh that's right. stupid daylight savings :) | 13:34 |
| hellsworth | ok well good morning folks | 13:35 |
| didrocks | good morning hellsworth | 13:36 |
| didrocks | the calendar should be up to date though for meeting time, doesn't it translate it correctly? | 13:36 |
| hellsworth | yes it did but i didnt' look at the calendar | 13:37 |
| hellsworth | i was going off memory | 13:37 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:37 |
| hellsworth | that'll teach me :) | 13:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you should have a clicky url for the snapcraft PRs you are mentioning, I'm curious :) | 13:41 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, also do you need help with the segfault issue? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | jamesh, weekly summary post? | 13:42 |
| kenvandine | seb128: oh, i'll add them :) | 13:42 |
| jamesh | seb128: just finishing it up. Thanks for the reminder | 13:42 |
| kenvandine | seb128: maybe, marcustomlinson ^^ want to get some help from seb128? | 13:42 |
| seb128 | jamesh, thx, sorry for being naggy :) | 13:42 |
| kenvandine | jamesh: make sure you include any release bugs :) | 13:43 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: let me at it for another day then I'll ping you if I'm jammed, thanks for offering | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | seb128: link added to the status report | 13:49 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, np | 13:49 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thx | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | seb128: the snapcraft PR includes a link to a PR against gtk-common-themes | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | I think both look good, but wanted jamesh to look at them | 13:50 |
| seb128 | right, nice numbers in the description, I like it :-) | 13:51 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, team meeting? | 14:31 |
| seb128 | k, I'm going to assume you don't have it yet in your calendar or got delayed and start it | 14:32 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-10-29 | 14:32 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Oct 29 14:32:51 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:32 |
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| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), hellsworth, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 14:33 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 14:33 |
| hellsworth | 0/ | 14:33 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 14:33 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | seb128: I just invited Wimpress on the calendar event :) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, that might be useful :) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | k, half the team at least seems around let's get started | 14:34 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bugs | 14:34 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:34 |
| seb128 | no desktop one | 14:34 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:34 |
| seb128 | that looks in shape, unassigned ones are fix commited | 14:35 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-dd-bugs | 14:35 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:35 |
| seb128 | no desktop one | 14:35 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:35 |
| seb128 | no unassigned ones | 14:35 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ee-bugs | 14:35 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:36 |
| seb128 | still no desktop | 14:36 |
| seb128 | bug #1848969 is border desktop but community side now so I don't think we need to handle it here | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | bug 1848969 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "src/date-time.cpp:171:GDateTime* unity::indicator::datetime::DateTime::get() const: assertion failed: (m_dt)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848969 | 14:36 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:37 |
| seb128 | bug #1845801 | 14:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1845801 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Eoan) "[nvidia] Automatic login fails and then all subsequent logins fail. Killing gnome-session-binary fixes it, or just not using automatic login." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845801 | 14:37 |
| seb128 | Laney commented on it that he couldn't reproduce | 14:37 |
| Laney | it's assigned | 14:37 |
| Laney | just not all of the tasks | 14:38 |
| seb128 | do you know if Alberto noticed it was? | 14:38 |
| Laney | yes, as we talked on irc before | 14:38 |
| seb128 | tseliot, ^ please confirm you saw the emails and just didn't /dev/null filter those :) | 14:38 |
| seb128 | k | 14:38 |
| seb128 | so I'm assigning to the other lines | 14:38 |
| Laney | I wouldn't usually just assign a bug to someone and expect them to notice that | 14:39 |
| seb128 | ack | 14:39 |
| didrocks | as long as we don't know which component is impacted… | 14:39 |
| didrocks | Laney: you can with me, filter power ;) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | bug #1847551 | 14:39 |
| ubot5 | bug 1847551 in mutter (Ubuntu Eoan) "Mutter 3.34.1 broke Night Light, screen color profiles in Wayland sessions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847551 | 14:39 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, that's part of your pending SRU right? | 14:39 |
| Laney | yes | 14:39 |
| Laney | assign it | 14:39 |
| seb128 | k | 14:40 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yes | 14:40 |
| Trevinho | already in queue | 14:40 |
| seb128 | bug #1850052 | 14:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 1850052 in zsys (Ubuntu Eoan) "installing zsys breaks desktop login" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1850052 | 14:40 |
| didrocks | waiting in unapproved | 14:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, assigning that one to you | 14:40 |
| didrocks | doing, even if "fixed" and waiting from the SRU team to act on it (+ Laney to unblock focal, pretty please ;)) | 14:41 |
| Laney | one thing at a time | 14:41 |
| seb128 | I assigned the rygel one to me | 14:41 |
| seb128 | and that's it | 14:41 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ff-bugs | 14:42 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:42 |
| seb128 | bug #1848766 | 14:42 |
| ubot5 | bug 1848766 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "xubuntu still pulls in Python2 via the python-gtk2-dev b-d in libappindicator" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848766 | 14:42 |
| seb128 | it's assigned to xubuntu, the other lines seem buggy | 14:43 |
| seb128 | but I've https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/libappindicator/drop-python-appindicator/+merge/335606 on my review queue which is related from our side of things | 14:43 |
| seb128 | bug #1849773 | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | bug 1849773 in evince (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/evince:11:strstr:TextSelectionPainter::hasGlyphLessFont:TextSelectionPainter::endPage:TextPage::drawSelection:poppler_page_render_selection" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849773 | 14:43 |
| seb128 | it's an evince segfault on text selection on some specific documents | 14:44 |
| seb128 | jibel could find only one private document example | 14:44 |
| jibel | it seems related to the font used in the doc | 14:44 |
| seb128 | I think it's too specific to qualify as a rls bug, we should probably fix it but as normal business | 14:44 |
| jibel | +1 | 14:44 |
| seb128 | jibel, if you can add the font info to the bug that might be useful | 14:44 |
| tseliot | seb128, I got the bug mail, I remember Laney telling me about it too. I remember systemd complaining about things in the log. I haven't really got time to look into it. I am not sure if NVIDIA is the cause of the problem yet (it could just trigger it) | 14:44 |
| seb128 | tseliot, k, thx | 14:45 |
| Wimpress | o/ | 14:45 |
| seb128 | unless someone objects I will notfixing the evince one | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | hey Wimpress! | 14:45 |
| Laney | can we also notfix the indicator-datetime thing pls | 14:45 |
| Laney | or else we will keep coming back to it | 14:45 |
| seb128 | hey Wimpress | 14:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, good point, done | 14:46 |
| seb128 | bug #1848217 | 14:47 |
| ubot5 | bug 1848217 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "No system-ready sound" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848217 | 14:47 |
| seb128 | that's fix commited, probably not rls material though | 14:47 |
| Laney | seems handled so I don't think it particularly matters either way | 14:47 |
| seb128 | ah, it's in the installer context | 14:47 |
| seb128 | so yeah, tag is fine, it's fix commited | 14:48 |
| seb128 | right | 14:48 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:48 |
| seb128 | desktop clean | 14:48 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:48 |
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| seb128 | Laney, yours | 14:49 |
| seb128 | (in the measure we are ready to look at it/should maybe wait for the initial sync churn to settle down) | 14:49 |
| Laney | forget it | 14:49 |
| Laney | it's ruined for this week at least | 14:49 |
| seb128 | just libreoffice is obvious but marcus is on it | 14:49 |
| Laney | apart from some things like libreoffice which are known separately | 14:49 |
| seb128 | thx Laney :) | 14:50 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 14:50 |
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| seb128 | any other topic? | 14:50 |
| seb128 | seems not, it's a wrap then | 14:51 |
| seb128 | thanks team! | 14:51 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Oct 29 14:51:55 2019 UTC. | 14:51 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-10-29-14.32.moin.txt | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | thanks! | 14:52 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks | 14:52 |
| Trevinho | ta | 14:52 |
| Wimpress | seb128 kenvandine Thanks for running things. I'll be here on time next week now I have the calendar entry :-) | 14:52 |
| didrocks | thx! | 14:52 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, no worry :) | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | Wimpress: let's hope that's the only think willcooke neglected to hand off :) | 14:54 |
| clobrano | didrocks, sorry to bother again :), but looking at user themes code, it seems to look for gnome-shell css installed under `/usr/share/themes/<theme>/gnome-shell` folder https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell-extensions/blob/master/extensions/user-theme/extension.js#L42 | 15:17 |
| didrocks | clobrano: interesting, this has changed as it as looking at the other places before | 15:19 |
| didrocks | I based the location on where the mode/theme for G-S was looking before we moving to an internal css in the compiled gressources | 15:19 |
| clobrano | didrocks, uhm let me check git history then | 15:19 |
| didrocks | so yeah, sounds like then moving the whole theme will be necessary. It means updating the Shell css | 15:19 |
| didrocks | clobrano: well, if upstream thinks now we should put them there, no need to dig more | 15:20 |
| clobrano | didrocks, yeah I guess | 15:22 |
| didrocks | clobrano: upstream disagrees with itself though: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/blob/master/js/ui/main.js#L298 | 15:22 |
| clobrano | so both gtk and gnome-shell goes into the same dir | 15:22 |
| didrocks | look here, in G-S, they are looking at the place we are using | 15:23 |
| didrocks | so I guess it's something for you to discuss with Trevinho, but the extension made by usptream and the G-S code should align at least | 15:23 |
| clobrano | eh, a bit messy indeed | 15:24 |
| didrocks | not that crazy… I was sure when I did the extension mode 2.5 years ago I didn't invent it from nothing ;) | 15:26 |
| clobrano | I'm sure you didn't :D | 15:27 |
| Trevinho | clobrano: probably upstream wants to keep both, like if the shell theme is the same of gtk then it goes with it otherwise it can use a local time | 15:27 |
| Trevinho | question of prioritizing one or the other | 15:27 |
| Trevinho | clobrano: I'd suggest you to ask in #gnome-shell to fmueller when he's around | 15:27 |
| Trevinho | or open an issue so we can discuss there the proper strategy | 15:28 |
| clobrano | Trevinho, yes, this could make sense | 15:32 |
| clobrano | Trevinho, didrocks, reply from #gnome-shell was that `/usr/share/gnome-shell/theme` is for session default and the other for 3rd party theme. Reconsidering the problem, we have Yaru(light) as default and Yaru-dark as selectable, so I can simply install the first under gnome-shell and the latter under themes | 16:07 |
| clobrano | as I was actually doing at the beginning | 16:07 |
| clobrano | to have yaru light available under gnome-session, the only option is the symlink | 16:08 |
| didrocks | yeah, it sounds weird to me, but ack | 16:23 |
| didrocks | Laney: I think you typoed the hint on https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu/revision/4024: ss390x | 16:39 |
| Laney | k | 16:39 |
| Laney | merge proposals are accepted for reference for the future ;-) | 16:40 |
| didrocks | thx ;) | 16:40 |
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| kenvandine | hellsworth: marcustomlinson found the crasher. It's cairo 1.17. Try downgrading it to 1.16 | 17:30 |
| hellsworth | hmmmm | 17:33 |
| hellsworth | then it must be different from the librsvg issue of updating the build snap to librsvg-2.46 | 17:34 |
| hellsworth | while the librsvg commit does change cairo versions, it updates librsvg to require 1.16.0 instead of cairo 1.15.12 | 17:35 |
| hellsworth | still.. i'm build ing gnome-3-34-1804-sdk with cairo branch 1.16, rebuilt the platform snap, and rebuilt evince to test | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: i cherry-picked the fix into gnome-3-34-1804-sdk and pushed it to get a build in LP | 17:42 |
| hellsworth | oh nice! | 17:42 |
| hellsworth | can you launch a build? looks like the last lp build of the build snap was a week ago | 17:43 |
| kenvandine | waiting for the git mirror to sync | 17:48 |
| hellsworth | is there a way to tell the platform snap to use the gnome-3-34-1804-sdk that is installed locally rather than pulling from the snapstore? | 18:04 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: doubtful, you could ask on #snapcraft | 18:06 |
| hellsworth | ah yes good idea | 18:08 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: it's not that much work to just snapcraft push your local snap to edge | 18:13 |
| marcustomlinson | but I guess you're using edge at the moment as your release I guess | 18:13 |
| hellsworth | oh right i can do that from my lp build, i think | 18:13 |
| marcustomlinson | lots of guessing going on :P | 18:13 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: doesn't your LP build push to edge already? | 18:14 |
| marcustomlinson | oh you mean you just need to trigger one | 18:15 |
| marcustomlinson | yeah that was why I suggested you have a personal one, for times like this where you want to bypass all the import waiting | 18:15 |
| hellsworth | i tend to just build locally because lp is confusing | 18:15 |
| hellsworth | yes you're right | 18:15 |
| hellsworth | and i think i have one | 18:15 |
| hellsworth | need to find it | 18:15 |
| marcustomlinson | that's fine, you can do: "snapcraft push <path to local snap>.snap --release edge" | 18:16 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: ^ | 18:17 |
| hellsworth | wat! i didn't know that | 18:17 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 18:17 |
| hellsworth | i thought the only way to get to the store was to go through lp | 18:18 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: for a snap to be seeded it needs to, but otherwise no. If I'm remembering correctly kenvandine? | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | right | 18:19 |
| kenvandine | there is a policy for seeded snaps | 18:19 |
| kenvandine | we also utilize LP for automated builds | 18:19 |
| hellsworth | well since my local build is still going, i just launched a new LP build on ~hellsworth/gnome-3-34-1804-sdk | 18:22 |
| hellsworth | and that should publish to the store | 18:22 |
| hellsworth | but my build will be finished first. oh well. lp can publish it for me. | 18:23 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: is your snap built from the git mirror? | 18:24 |
| kenvandine | if so that mirror isn't updating | 18:24 |
| hellsworth | well my lp build builds from ~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-sdk/+git/gnome-sdk | 18:25 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: what you've done with gnome-3-34-1804, do with gnome-3-34-1804-sdk | 18:25 |
| hellsworth | and doesn't that just point to the git repo | 18:25 |
| marcustomlinson | Source: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk.git gnome-3-34-1804-sdk | 18:25 |
| hellsworth | oh yeah marcustomlinson your'e right | 18:26 |
| hellsworth | isn't gnome-3-34-1804-sdk a seeded snap? | 18:32 |
| hellsworth | so i should go through lp for this snap to get in the store? | 18:32 |
| hellsworth | well i'll push it anyways. you wouldn't have told me to if i shouldnt' :) | 18:33 |
| hellsworth | sometimes i overanalyze things... | 18:33 |
| kenvandine | nope | 18:36 |
| hellsworth | out of curiosity, where is the list of seeded snaps? | 18:37 |
| hellsworth | ok updated build snap in edge. rebuilding the platform snap now. | 18:42 |
| Trevinho | clobrano: nice, I read on #g-s as well, so.. Yeah somewhat similar to what I was guessing, but nice that we've a definition now | 19:08 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: if you have time, you think you could give this suggestion a try today? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo/issues/382#note_278108 | 19:14 |
| marcustomlinson | kenvandine: got a reply on that bug that looks promising ^ | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | yeah, a build of gnome-3-34-1804-sdk with cairo 1.17 plus that patch shouldn't be too hard | 19:18 |
| kenvandine | or even just update the cairo part to use the git branch in that PR | 19:18 |
| hellsworth | well but how do we do that in the build snap? can i have the cairo portion in the build snap checkout a merge request? | 19:19 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/psychon/cairo/tree/invalid-free-crash | 19:19 |
| hellsworth | yeah ok i can use this persons branch | 19:19 |
| marcustomlinson | kenvandine: all 5 of my test apps are working now, I've promoted 3-32 build and platform snaps to stable | 19:24 |
| marcustomlinson | you can rebuild drawing and let that guy know the good news on forum.snapcraft.io :) | 19:25 |
| hellsworth | rebuilting gnome-3-34-1804-sdk with the invalid-free-crash branch of ciaro now | 19:25 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: thanks! | 19:25 |
| hellsworth | i also had already built the build snap with cairo branch 1.16, pushed it to edge, rebuilt the gnome-3-34-1804 platform snap, pushed it to edge, moved it to stable and am rebuilding evince | 19:28 |
| hellsworth | evince still crashes for me when i have the build snap using cairo source-branch: 1.16. evince started ok, i went to open a pdf and when i selected a pdf and clicked open, i got a segfault | 19:47 |
| hellsworth | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/43yg8JPWHT/ | 19:48 |
| hellsworth | my build of the buildsnap with the invalid-free-crash branch is still going | 19:48 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: you connected to the right platform snap? | 19:48 |
| marcustomlinson | You’ll need to connect to a platform snap that is also built from the new build snap | 19:49 |
| hellsworth | yep and i did that | 19:51 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: also, the 1.16 branch may be broken as it’s WIP, I meant use the 1.16.0 tag | 19:51 |
| hellsworth | ah ok | 19:51 |
| marcustomlinson | The branch I believe has some 1.16.1 work in it | 19:52 |
| hellsworth | maybe that's the problem then. | 19:52 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: but good to know that 1.16.1 is broken too. Could you leave a comment on that bug about that | 19:53 |
| hellsworth | i need to run in a little bit to pick up my daughter from daycare (closing early today because of snow) but i should at least be able to launch a build of the platform snap with the invalid-free-crash build snap first | 19:53 |
| marcustomlinson | Thanks hellsworth, appreciate it! | 20:01 |
| hellsworth | my pleasure :) | 20:05 |
| hellsworth | for some reason, my laptop can't build any snaps: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yRdDRvWJw3/ | 20:19 |
| hellsworth | does anyone know how to fix this? | 20:19 |
| hellsworth | there is no /var/lib/dpkg/lock* | 20:19 |
| hellsworth | i can do other things like apt update (which wouldn't work if there was already a lock in place) | 20:20 |
| hellsworth | and my snapcraft version is the stable one (not one of my local builds) | 20:20 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: that error is coming from the multipass vm not your host | 20:21 |
| hellsworth | hmm ok maybe i'll reinstall multipass | 20:21 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: you could try ‘multipass delete snapcraft-evince’ | 20:22 |
| marcustomlinson | Then ‘multipass purge’ | 20:22 |
| hellsworth | ok i will try that | 20:22 |
| hellsworth | yep that worked! | 20:25 |
| hellsworth | thanks marcustomlinson | 20:25 |
| marcustomlinson | np, yeah those VMs can sometimes get into a funky state | 20:25 |
| hellsworth | ok i need to run and finish up the invalid-free-crash testing later tonight | 20:25 |
| kenvandine | later | 20:26 |
| ricotz | kenvandine, hi, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/gnome-calculator-master -- is this actually using vala 0.40.8 to build gnome-calculator from latest git master? :( | 22:51 |
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