[02:52] <Gusj> tomreyn: Hi there Tom, I wanted to ask you, how was it that you and TJ- left me an offline message that one time? I found instructions for another server but not for freenode, I wanted to leave TJ- a msg
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Gusj: I see and respond. Do '/msg memoserv send TJ- <message> '.
[02:57] <Unit193> Or perhaps more specifically, /msg MemoServ help send
[02:58] <Gusj> thank you Bashing-om and Unit193
[03:02] <Gusj> Been struggling with a Toshiba Laptop not recognizing keyboard and trackpad, tried many many MANY solutions without luck, but recently found this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/Keycodes
[03:03] <Gusj> apparently There is something called a "knock sequence" which I need, when I try the listen command and Xev, only 4 keys output anything.. what I mainly need is the keyboard not the trackpad..
[03:04] <Gusj> TJ- suggested that I would have to recompile the kernel, with some toshiba Options that I apparently need, but on that link I pasted, there are 3 utils that they mention, I know from lots of testing with TJ, Tomreyen and myself that the bug is in the kernel
[03:09] <tomreyn> had you tried eleting nvram by pressing the power button for 15 seconds?
[03:09] <tomreyn> *deleting
[03:10] <tomreyn> i have bad memory, but somehow i seem to recall that this is something that was suggested for your system, Gusj
[03:11] <Gusj> tomreyn: Hola Tom, yes have tried that, pressed it once for 2 full minutes, and followed the directions to go into bios and reset to default, etc.. without luck, but if you see that link I posted here, it is very specific to my issue
[03:12] <Gusj> acpi_listen comm xev
[03:12] <Gusj> tomreyn: I tried the acpi_listen and xev commands, and the only keys that work are the Fn+bright up and down, and Fn+wifi on/off those are hte only ones that emit any info with cpi listne and xev
[03:13] <tomreyn> ah righnt this fnfx daemon is what you had
[03:13] <tomreyn> but this seemed to be just about multimedia keys
[03:14] <Gusj> tomreyn: In that link, the section that says especifically "Modern BIOSes and keyboards" in the wiki ubuntu about keycodes' they mention these 3 apps
[03:14] <tomreyn> yes thats what i just read
[03:14] <Gusj> One of them is that one you remember, FnFX, which was installed by default but could not work becayse there needed ot be some parameters in the kernel for it to work,
[03:14] <tomreyn> but wasnt your issue that the keyboard didnt work in general?
[03:14] <Gusj> tomreyn: the other 2 mentioned here, I have not trried to install " omke, FreeZeeButtons, and fnfx"
[03:16] <Gusj> tomreyn: No Tom, it wokrs pefectly in the bios and in grub, both trackpad and kybd, and then not in the system, the only way UI have gotten 4 keys to work, brightess,FN+Wifi is through some specific grub parameters that I have included in the grub file after trying about 1,000 lol
[03:16] <Gusj> tomreyn: Have narrowed it down to 4 commands to not have thekybd freeze complete but only those 4 keys work, and emit anyhitng on Xev
[03:17] <tomreyn> hmm, an interesting puzzel indeed.
[03:17] <tomreyn> *puzzle
[03:17] <tomreyn> i guess i'm a lazy old person who just likes things to work too much,  would probably just sell and replace it by something that works OOTB
[03:18] <Gusj> tomreyn: I know this is old tom, abd I had just given up, but I would like to try and recompile the kernel, with those options on for the Fnfx to work, just to try...
[03:19] <Gusj> not I have these 2 other apps apart from Fxfn to try, ==> omke, FreeZeeButtons, and fnfx
[03:20] <Gusj> tomreyn: IF it does not work after that I will give up.. but I will send an offline msg to TJ- to see if he could guide me into trying these alternatives, really lost in the procedure of recompiling the kernel with options on..
[03:21] <Gusj> tomreyn: Even in Synaptic package Manager, the Fxfn says that some options need to be enabled in the kernel for that app to work, but I honestly do not understand is that that app is called fnfx:i386 in synaptic but my system, is 64bit
[03:23] <Gusj> tomreyn: I do not know, maybe the other 2 apps work.. on that ubuntu wiki link, it is the first time i see it so clearly, they start going down from the outer layer to the inner
[03:23] <tomreyn> the dameon only builds on i386, i guess, not amd64
[03:23] <Gusj> tomreyn: "If a key is pressed, but no information is displayed in /var/log/kern.log, showkey, or xev, your laptop probably requires a "knock sequence.""
[03:24] <Gusj> tomreyn: So even If i do reocmpile the kernel with the fxfn:i386 parameters that it asks for in the kernel, it would not work for me?
[03:24] <tomreyn> that's also news to me, hadn't heard such before either
[03:24] <tomreyn> freezeebutton_1.0-1.tar.gz seems to have vanished off the internet since
[03:25] <Gusj> tomreyn: yes FreeZeeButtons seems gone :(
[03:28] <Gusj> tomreyn: but the Omnibook Configuration Tools & Patches, the other app 'omke' is avaliable
[03:29] <Gusj> tomreyn: will search for it in synaptic to see if it shows up in there.., to see what is the more current version, in synaptic or on that website linked in the ubuntu wiki, is this correct Tom?
[03:34] <tomreyn> thats generally a good approach IMO
[03:34] <Gusj> tomreyn: I have since changed form Lubuntu to Xubuntu 18.04 lts first then recently from 19.04 and then to 19.10 and I am really loving it
[03:34] <Gusj> tomreyn: thank you
[03:35] <Gusj> tomreyn: Since my most recent install of 19.04 I have not done what i did in 18.04 "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack"
[03:35] <Gusj> tomreyn: a user about a month ago and a half ago  when I started with these issues suggested it to me
[03:36] <Gusj> is this a good idea?
[03:37] <tomreyn> i'm not sure i'm getting the question. LTSE is only available on LTS releases. 19.04 is not an LTS release.
[03:38] <tomreyn> nor is 19.10.
[03:38] <tomreyn> i'm sure others can also answer these questions, so there's no strict need to keep highlighting me ;)
[03:39] <Gusj> ahh ok thank you.. I know I have acpi installed I have 'toshiba_acpi, when I do modprobe and see it
[03:39] <Gusj> I am aiming for the keyboard, I don't mind carrying a mouse, but if the keyboard works that would be amazing!
[04:56] <Regor> is there any better tool than youtube-dl ? i am  using it but often i get errors so i want to try something similar to youtube-dl
[04:56] <Unit193> I guess it depends on what you want to do specifically, but ytdl is pretty good at what it does.
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> the only time youtube-dl doesn't work here is when there is network issues - wifi busy or isp is busy
[05:03] <Unit193> I have a locally packaged version so it's more up to date, but otherwise..
[05:13] <Regor> ok i would check that
[06:20] <xubuntu95w> Hi!
[06:21] <xubuntu95w> I have a problem with the brightness on xubuntu 18.04 32 bits
[06:23] <xubuntu95w> Brightness is always 100%, And i can't  regulate him. Thanks for the help (And sorry for my bad english😄) )
[07:41] <EvaristeGalois> How come some programs that autostart on boot do not appear in the system tray sometimes
[07:41] <EvaristeGalois> even though it's running
[09:13] <brainwash> EvaristeGalois: does reloading the panel fix the problem? xfce4-panel -r
[09:14] <brainwash> EvaristeGalois: some things regarding session start have been fixed in Xfce 4.14
[10:10] <medo> hello guys
[10:10] <medo> how i can know that intel driver is installed ?
[10:12] <diogenes_> kingkings, it is installed.
[10:13] <kingkings> how to make sure
[10:13] <kingkings> because i cant run blender
[10:13] <diogenes_> lsmod | grep i915
[10:14] <diogenes_> also run: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[10:14] <diogenes_> paste here the result.
[10:14] <kingkings> glxinfoname of display: :0.0display: :0  screen: 0direct rendering: Yesserver glx vendor string: SGIserver glx version string: 1.4server glx extensions:    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_no_error,     GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float,     GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_ARB_multisample,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_create_context_es_profile,     GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,     GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_libglvnd, GLX_EXT_no_config_context,     GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,     GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_OML_swap_method,     GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,     GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,     GLX_SGI_swap_controlclient glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGIclient glx version string: 1.4client glx extensions:    GLX_ARB_context_flush_control, GLX_ARB_create_context,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness,     GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB,     GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_buffer_age,     GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_create_context_es_profile,     GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info,     GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,     GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent, GLX_MESA_query_renderer,     GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control,     GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,     GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_syncGLX version: 1.4GLX extensions:    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile,     GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB,     GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample,     GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_EXT_create_context_es_profile,     GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,     GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info,     GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,     GLX_MESA_query_renderer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_OML_swap_method,     GLX_OML_sync_control,
[10:15] <diogenes_> omg
[10:15] <diogenes_> stop, and please run thge c
[10:15] <diogenes_> the commands with maximum accuracy.
[10:15] <diogenes_> you didn't run the command i gave.
[13:17] <Regor> how to make pasted files look selected so i can pick them from download folder easily ?
[13:21] <diogenes_> Regor, after you copy and paste some files, after they are done pasted, they are automatically selected (if in the meantime you don't swhitch the windows around).
[13:35] <Regor> yeah..i see that .. if download folder opened simultaneously then this happens !
[13:41] <Regor> also when i access file through firefox " open containing folder" i dont see shaded files .
[14:09] <xubuntu40w> TRANSITION FROM WINDOWS XP TO XUBUNTUS...  WORTH IT OR NOT?
[14:10] <GridCube> >asking the xubuntu irc channel
[14:11] <sublevel> winxp has lots of unpatched vulnerabilities, you should definitely upgrade to *something*
[14:11] <diogenes_> xubuntu40w, with capslocks: YES IT"S MORE THAN WORTH.
[14:12] <GridCube> yeah also that xp is like 20 years old already
[14:14] <xubuntu40w> thank you /  did not notice my cap lock was on,  sorry.     Have an older computer at work , not networked with the others and wanted to download an affordable operating system as XP is no longer working efficiently.  am hoping that this is a great alternative as the computer is seldom used but when is used it  is mostly for searches on the
[14:14] <xubuntu40w> internet
[14:15] <diogenes_> great choice.
[14:16] <xubuntu40w> is the transition difficult,  in other words can someone, familiar but not an expert be successful in downloading
[14:17] <xubuntu40w> also,  does one need to save any files to an outside source before downloading?
[14:17] <diogenes_> xubuntu40w, btw you can try xubuntu with two click right now right into your browser without any installation needed: https://distrotest.net/Xubuntu
[14:17] <xubuntu40w> awesome I will definitely do that
[14:18] <xubuntu40w> thank you for the link
[14:18] <diogenes_> and it's always advicable to backup all your important data before doing any kinds of operations with your computer.
[14:18] <diogenes_> there is a saying that: "The data that was not backed up is not an important data".
[14:21] <xubuntu40w> thank you again;   understood,  better safe than sorry
[15:00] <xubuntu40w> what is happening if I go to the trial site and all I get is a black screen?
[15:01] <xubuntu40w> I have tried different versions and am getting the same result
[15:08] <xubuntu81w> I've got a question about Thunderbird. I did a fresh install of Xubuntu 18.04 yesterday but things weren't quite working right: I couldn't get my backups with deja-dup working, I had screen tearing, and I couldn't sign in with Thunderbird. So I did decided to do a fresh install with 19.10 instead and things are working great, only I still can't
[15:08] <xubuntu81w> sign in with Thunderbird.
[15:09] <xubuntu81w> I keep getting an error on trying to connect Thunderbird with Gmail, but always get the error of something wrong with configuration or username or password.
[15:10] <xubuntu81w> I was on with Google for an hour this morning going through their troubleshooting procedures, but nothing changed. Is there any way to get my Gmail connect through Thunderbird?
[15:15] <saor> xubuntu81w: Do you have MFA enabled?
[15:15] <xubuntu81w> What's MFA?
[15:16] <saor> Multi Factor Auth
[15:16] <saor> aka 2FA, do you enter a code to login to gmail?
[15:16] <xubuntu81w> I don't. I tried that and adding an app password, but still no luck
[15:17] <saor> Shoot thats all i had for ya ;)
[15:17] <xubuntu81w> No worries!
[16:14] <tomreyn> xubuntu81w: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
[16:21] <tomreyn> actually gmail may not be imap anymore (not sure), at least for the authentication, but rather http - see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Logging_HTTP_activity_by_manually_setting_environment_variables
[19:09] <Akita> Hello all
[19:11] <Akita> Is there someone who knows about xubuntu, steam, ds4drv and the ps4 controller? .... It seems I am unable to connect it via bluetooth properly, but wired it works
[21:15] <xubuntu81w> tomreyn I was able to get things working. I gave it an app password, but had to change the sort of authorization Thunderbird defaults to. I just had to select "Normal Password" for getting access
[22:43] <Noboru55> Hello everybody
[22:43] <Noboru55> I was using the laptop on battery and when Xubuntu reached the critical battery level the system crashed. I had to restart hard