[00:41] <tigerdog> I upgraded Xubuntu from 19.04 to 19.10.  Pulseaudio cannot remember which output device to use.  When the system starts, it defaults to HDMI output and I change to my audio card.  When the system is restarted, or just resumed after sleep, it's back to HDMI.  How do I make the selection stick?  This did not happen with previous versions
[00:41] <tigerdog> (18.04/18.10/19.04)
[00:55] <tomreyn> tigerdog: https://superuser.com/questions/626606/how-to-make-alsa-pick-a-preferred-sound-device-automatically/630356#630356
[03:47] <busdriver> i've just installed xubuntu 19.10. I am impressed
[03:48] <busdriver> I'm a longtime ubuntu/lubuntu user
[03:48] <Unit193> \o/
[03:55] <busdriver> would you know which DLNA server is most suited? I have used miniDLNA up to now, but had difficulty in configuring it
[10:48] <xubuntu2w> Hi there. I need help. Have upgraded to 19.10, but suddenly the keyboard language is changing as soon as I activate another window.
[10:48] <xubuntu2w> formerly the layout was valid for all the windows...
[10:50] <diogenes_> xubuntu2w, right click on keyboard panel plugin > properties set it to global.
[10:50] <xubuntu2w> thanks, I will try
[10:51] <xubuntu2w> Works fine. Thanks a lot.
[10:51] <diogenes_> yw
[10:51] <xubuntu2w> bye bye
[13:01] <Noboru55> diogenes_ hey, guess what?
[13:01] <diogenes_> Noboru55, Sponge Bob is real?
[13:04] <Noboru55> diogenes_ lol, no... the xubuntu 19.10 worked but not enlightweight here
[13:04] <Noboru55> had to back to 18.10
[13:04] <diogenes_> Noboru55, what is not enlighweight?
[13:05] <Noboru55> all .. since the pendrive with xubuntu 19.10 till after install
[13:06] <Noboru55> the thunar was a little lag... and do not how to explain because my awful english
[13:06] <Noboru55> but the 18.10 works better to me
[13:07] <Noboru55> the teme in live usb xubuntu 19.10 is great, with nice icons... but after install it change to other thing a little ugly, the thunar shows yellow directories and... the desktop icon is weird... well.. 18.10 is ok to me
[13:08] <diogenes_> Noboru55, hehe all of that is easy fixable but ok, if 18.04 works fine then all is well.
[13:10] <Noboru55> diogenes_ yes, the theme is fixable but i do not know why the 18.04 works better,  and its lts
[13:10] <Noboru55> but it was good to take a look in 19.10
[13:11] <diogenes_> Noboru55, hopefullt the next stable LTS will work even better.
[13:11] <Noboru55> yes, i will wait ... if i dont get a macbook before
[13:11] <diogenes_> :(
[13:11] <brainwash> how are the desktop icons weird?
[13:12] <Noboru55> brainwash the live usb is something like black and stylish
[13:12] <Noboru55> after install it turns not the same
[13:12] <brainwash> a screenshot or photo would help
[13:12] <diogenes_> Noboru55, most likely it re-used your configs from the previous installation.
[13:12] <diogenes_> if you preserved /home.
[13:13] <brainwash> regarding the yellow directory icons, it's a change in the icon theme
[13:13] <diogenes_> and also that could be the reason of a laggy experience too.
[13:13] <Noboru55> maybe
[13:14] <Noboru55> anyway i will not install again the 19.10... for while... maybe later
[13:15] <Noboru55> so i can make some changes to see how it works
[14:54] <sarkar> привет всем
[14:55] <sarkar> есть кто с россии?
[17:17] <scribe64> How would someone get involved with the themes and background group?
[17:18] <diogenes_> scribe64, wdym?
[17:18] <GridCube> go to #xubuntu-devel and ask
[17:18] <GridCube> they'll tell you how you can contribute
[17:18] <scribe64> thank you GridCube
[17:18] <GridCube> de nada
[17:18] <diogenes_> you can github too.
[17:19] <GridCube> it's better to work with the devs not alone
[17:19] <GridCube> they can tell you were help is needed
[17:19] <GridCube> where*
[18:02] <xsternttv> hi
[18:02] <GridCube> !hi xsternttv
[18:02] <xsternttv> how it going
[19:08] <netuser> hi
[19:08] <netuser> what is the difference of lubuntu an xubuntu
[19:09] <genii> Lubuntu bases their desktop on the graphical system of LXDE, Xubuntu uses XFCE
[19:09] <netuser> oh thanks
[19:10] <netuser> i think lubuntu is like windows xp,sorry for my english
[19:11] <genii> There's an older, but still relevant comparison and explanation of the main differences here http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/08/lxde-vs-xfce.html
[19:44] <Noboru55> Hello everybody, is some configuration for games in Xubuntu 18.04? When i run diablo 2 via playonlinux all my desktop get a different colour, like high contrast...
[19:44] <Noboru55> if i close the game  the system back to normal
[19:45] <diogenes_> Noboru55, try with predefined resolution
[19:46] <brainwash> color depth is reduced
[19:46] <Noboru55> brainwash is there way to fix it? because the game get a color reduced too
[19:47] <Noboru55> diogenes_ i did not do any change.. there is no option to change it in graphics wine configuration
[19:47] <brainwash> you can configure wine to run an application in a virtual desktop
[19:47] <brainwash> but not sure if that fixes the problem
[19:48] <Noboru55> i see
[19:48] <Noboru55> thank u, i will try something.. did not find nothing about it on google..
[19:49] <brainwash> that is surprising
[19:49] <brainwash> I'd think that you would find several search entries for this problem
[19:50] <diogenes_> a similar thing hapened to me on quake 3 so i went to quake settings color and switched to 32bit color.
[19:50] <Noboru55> diogenes_ i made some changes inside diablo 2 too.. and its better but now perfect
[19:50] <Noboru55> brainwash only windows similar problems
[19:54] <brainwash> Noboru55: does it happen with windowed mode too?
[19:56] <Noboru55> brainwash yes, and in full screen too
[19:57] <Noboru55> brainwash in the opening of the game its ok... when i click to get the options... so the color change like i got i 256 color or something around it
[20:01] <brainwash> personally, I would test it on another system also
[20:02] <brainwash> other than that, you should check the winehq and/or playonlinux channel
[20:02] <Noboru55> ah.. good idea.. im going to do it
[20:02] <Noboru55> thank you
[20:24] <Noboru55> Hello, the Xubuntu is almost perfect, but i get a black screen every time i try to lock the screen
[20:24] <Noboru55> and only the power button works when i lock the screen
[20:25] <Noboru55> someone knows how to solve it?
[20:25] <Noboru55> diogenes_ can you try to lock your screen to see if you can back to the desktop
[20:25] <Noboru55> ?
[20:30] <buttros_> Hello everyone! Does Evolution Office Suite plays nice with Xubuntu? Or it looks out of place in xfce?
[20:39] <Noboru55> LOLLLLLL
[20:40] <Noboru55> the Lock screen is not locking the screen.. i get i black screen and nothing works... so i tried ctrl+alt+1  an for my surprise i saw the tty1
[20:40] <Noboru55> so i treid ctrl+alt+7   and i saw a message.
[20:41] <Noboru55> The screen is locked, you will be redirect in few seconds to the password screen
[20:41] <Noboru55> it was really funny... but everytime the screen is locked i will need to do it?
[20:41] <Noboru55> i mean change ttyX to tty7 ?
[20:41] <Noboru55> i wanted something like... screensaver  if possible
[20:50] <diogenes_> Noboru55, my lockscreen works flawlessly with xfce4-screensaver.
[20:51] <Noboru55> diogenes_ ok, thank you..
[20:51] <diogenes_> np
[20:53] <Noboru55> diogenes_ can you set a picture like screensaver?
[20:53] <Noboru55> i see no option to do it, only the power management and the desktop wallpaper...
[20:56] <diogenes_> Noboru55, i haven't dig into that because xfce4-scrensaver is a fairly recent piece of software to as of right now it might lack some customization options but i suppose it's definitely possible to set up any background for the screensave if you mess with the code.
[20:59] <Noboru55> diogenes_ i do not find this xfce-screensaver  i will try install xscreensaver
[21:00] <diogenes_> Noboru55, ah i forgot yo are on 18.04 and it's introduced with the newest 19.1o and xfce 4.14.
[21:00] <Noboru55> diogenes_ oh...
[21:01] <Noboru55> let me try something here
[21:13] <Noboru55> diogenes_ worked, the xscreensaver, i guess the xubuntu 18.04 doesn't have some screensaver software
[21:14] <Noboru55> diogenes_ i will install again the 19.10 to make some changes and see how it works in games too...
[21:16] <diogenes_> Noboru55, up until xfce 4.14, xfce had no screensaver/screenlocker whatsoever, all what distros were using (xscreensaver, light-locker) were 3rd party software, neither developed nor maintained by xfce, the 4.14 has officially introduced the xfce4-screensaver (a fork of gnome-screensaver) so now you have a dedicated xfce developed screensaver.
[21:18] <Noboru55> great!
[21:18] <Noboru55> i need a perfect system to ... to delete the windows of my wife...
[21:19] <Noboru55> so.. that's the reason i am doing some tests and being a little.. u know like a newbie here
[21:19] <Noboru55> but her laptop is better than mine, 8gb ddr4 intel i5
[21:20] <diogenes_> and you picked a pretty good distro, xubuntu has always been super reliable to me.
[21:20] <Noboru55> i agree... xubuntu is better than any other flavour
[21:21] <diogenes_> agreed
[21:22] <Noboru55> pendrive ok, going to install it
[21:22] <Noboru55> see u in the future
[21:22] <diogenes_> good luck
[23:24] <xubuntu82w> hi all!
[23:25] <xubuntu82w> Congrats on Xubuntu 19.10.  It's a pretty clean and modern install.  I installed it on a Dell 7590 XPS 15 OLED and out of the box it was suprisingly complete.
[23:25] <xubuntu82w> I had to tweak scaling, synaptics trackpad and OLED brightness but that's to be expected.
[23:27] <xubuntu82w> One question: I have 2x scaling running and it mostly works, but for some reason the default window drag areas and gadget sizes are still 1x scaling.  Same for cursors.  It makes it hard to resize windows and click gadgets.  For some reason Chrome window and gadget sizing is fine.
[23:28] <xubuntu82w> Also by default scaling isn't working on the display manager, but after logging in and having the screen lock the scaling in the login box is correct.
[23:30] <brainwash> xubuntu82w: you need to change the window manager theme
[23:31] <brainwash> there is a hidpi variant of the Default theme
[23:31] <xubuntu82w> ok let me try that
[23:31] <brainwash> Xfce Settings > Window Manager
[23:31] <xubuntu82w> ah default-xhdpi?
[23:32] <brainwash> yes
[23:32] <xubuntu82w> excellent it works
[23:32] <brainwash> cursor size can be changed via the Appearance settings dialog
[23:32] <xubuntu82w> there are other hidpi themes i assume
[23:33] <brainwash> oh wait. Mouse and Touchpad
[23:33] <xubuntu82w> i fixed touchpad
[23:33] <xubuntu82w> that was some sort of driver conflict
[23:33] <brainwash> but you wanted to adjust the cursor size
[23:33] <brainwash> that can be done via the Mouse and Touchpad settings dialog
[23:33] <xubuntu82w> yes.   the cursors are 1x
[23:34] <xubuntu82w> ok i'll check that
[23:34] <brainwash> regarding other hidpi wm themes, I'm not aware of other themes offering these variants (yet)
[23:34] <xubuntu82w> cusor size
[23:35] <xubuntu82w> increase to 48.
[23:36] <xubuntu82w> i wish there was something like an install template so that you could set it up and share it.
[23:36] <brainwash> you can do that via xfconf-query
[23:37] <brainwash> it's a command-line tool that can change Xfce settings
[23:37] <xubuntu82w> ok.  i was thinking something more comprehensive that could do driver fixup, but you could do that with a bash script
[23:38] <xubuntu82w> ok this is strange.  all of chrome is fine except the chrome specific cursors which are 1x :)
[23:38] <brainwash> a guide?
[23:39] <xubuntu82w> if i point to the desktop the cursor is the right size.  if I point to the chrome window it goes to 1x.  wonder if it needs a restart.
[23:39] <xubuntu82w> weird cuz all of the rest of chrome is properly sized
[23:39] <xubuntu82w> i really appreciate all the work on this distro.  really clean.
[23:40] <xubuntu82w> tried to use Pop!_os, but egads horrible UI
[23:41] <brainwash> could be bug 1702873
[23:42] <brainwash> which was fixed though
[23:43] <xubuntu82w> i'll see if it happens in libreoffice
[23:43] <xubuntu82w> no it's fine in libreoffice writer
[23:44] <xubuntu82w> the version of chrome i'm running is the deb from google.  let me see if it happens in firefox
[23:44] <brainwash> libreoffice is probably not installed as snap application
[23:44] <xubuntu82w> correct.
[23:44] <brainwash> so.. chrome actually isn't either, or?
[23:45] <brainwash> if you installed via deb directly from google
[23:46] <xubuntu46w> ok this is me in firefox and i'm not seeing the same problem.  must be something wrong with chrome
[23:47] <brainwash> maybe this https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=376156
[23:47] <xubuntu82w> right it's just google chrome deb
[23:47] <brainwash> report is from 2014
[23:47] <brainwash> but the latest comment is: "How is this still an issue in June of 2019?  It's both Chrome and Chromium."
[23:48] <xubuntu46w> wow.  that's a 5 year old bug
[23:48] <xubuntu46w> yes agreed
[23:48] <brainwash> hard to believe
[23:48] <xubuntu46w> not too hard ;)
[23:49] <xubuntu46w> priorities at google are something like (1) sell user data at highest price without totally being caught ......... (4938943) fix chrome cursor scaling issues on Linux.
[23:50] <xubuntu46w> But xubuntu is shiny
[23:52] <scribe64> yes it is
[23:53] <xubuntu46w> here's so more data.   the cursor scaling issue is also showing up in thunar.  it's the input pointer cursor for input fields.
[23:54] <xubuntu46w> not the blinking insert thing, but the input pointer cursor.
[23:54] <brainwash> so, text cursor?
[23:54] <brainwash> the I ?
[23:54] <xubuntu46w> it looks like a capital I with the bars above and below
[23:54] <brainwash> right
[23:55] <xubuntu46w> its fine in firefox, but thunar and chrome have the 1x scaled version
[23:55] <brainwash> normal cursor is fine?
[23:55] <xubuntu46w> you mean the blinky insert position thing?
[23:55] <brainwash> mouse cursor
[23:55] <xubuntu46w> ok yeah sure.  that's fine
[23:55] <brainwash> oh well
[23:56] <xubuntu46w> unlike in chrome where both cursors are screwed up
[23:56] <brainwash> you did not mention that detail earlier
[23:56] <xubuntu46w> sorry
[23:56] <xubuntu46w> i wonder what affects just that cursor
[23:57] <xubuntu46w> probably some misc gui resource didn't get updated
[23:58] <brainwash> a strange one for sure
[23:59] <xubuntu46w> i'm going to logout and see if the login dialog is fixed.