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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Oct 31 15:01:45 2019 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:01
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bdmurray#topic Lightning rounds15:01
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bdmurraybdmurray sil2100 cyphermox mwhudson tdaitx doko juliank xnox vorlon infinity rbalint waveform15:02
bdmurrayupdated daisy retracer code for more python-cassandra changes15:02
bdmurrayupdated daisy retracer code to support retracing of focal15:02
bdmurraydiscovered issue with Conents.gz being 0 bytes for eoan release pocket15:02
bdmurrayupdated lp retracer config to support retracing of focal15:02
bdmurraycreated apport test crashes for focal15:02
bdmurrayupdated retracer cronjob to count users of 20.0415:02
bdmurrayinvestigation into when 'apt list --upgradable' is displayed15:02
bdmurrayreviewed MP from sil2100 re ubuntu-release-upgrader15:02
xnoxbdmurray:  contents will be fixed, right?15:03
bdmurray✔ done15:03
cyphermox- netplan NetworkManager plugin15:03
cyphermox- coordinating net-tools deprecation15:03
cyphermox- debugging grub2 "unknown tpm" issue (patch ready, to SRU today)15:03
bdmurrayxnox: Yes, contents is fixed already and permanent fix is landing15:03
cyphermox- reiwa support patched15:03
cyphermox(done)15:03
cyphermox*patches15:03
bdmurraytdaitx:15:03
bdmurrayI think he said something about lunch15:04
bdmurraydoko: ?15:04
doko- working on libreoffice autopkg test failure, without15:04
doko  support from the Debian/Ubuntu package maintainters.15:04
doko  https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9226715:04
doko  Can't wait for the comments that I broke the archive ...15:04
doko- GCC 9 update15:04
bdmurrayhow about we skip to xnox!15:04
doko- bug reports for Python3 packages15:04
ubottugcc.gnu.org bug 92267 in libstdc++ "[9 Regression] crash with a cppunit test case (built by GCC 9) and cpptest (built with GCC 8)" [Normal,Assigned]15:04
doko(done)15:04
xnoxWork with mwhudson on klibc bug #185018415:05
ubottubug 1850184 in linux (Ubuntu Focal) "losetup -f broken in 2.0.6-1ubuntu2" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185018415:05
xnoxAttended OIN office hours in lyon (private summary to follow)15:05
xnoxCreated merge proposal for :i386 resolution in germinate, it now produces matching output as the static EOAN list, but fails testsuite in other ways15:05
xnoxCustomer meetings prep15:05
xnoxRoadmap sprint prep15:05
xnoxdone15:05
bdmurrayvorlon:15:05
vorlon * archive opening15:05
infinity * Very Long weekend and short week.15:05
vorlon * autopkgtest shepherding15:05
vorlon * python2 removals (NBS, process-removals, etc)15:05
vorlon * working around python3.8 build failures in packages that need update to drop python215:05
infinity * Some help with transitions.15:05
infinity * Getting d-i hobbling along while we decide how to kill it.15:05
infinity * Work with LP on Contents issue.15:05
infinity * Misc AA/SRU stuff.15:05
infinity(done)15:05
vorlon * 20.04 roadmap prep15:05
vorlon(done)15:05
rbalint* poked systemd and other packages to migrate15:06
rbalint* SRUs: systemd (eoan)15:06
rbalint* SRU verifications: unattended-upgrades15:06
rbalint* reported  LP:#1850667 and set up ppa:rbalint/systemd-unified-cgh for testing the new upstream systemd default which is reverted in Ubuntu to avoid regressions15:06
rbalint* merged systemd again from Debian, poking it to migrate15:06
rbalint(done)15:06
bdmurraywaveform:15:06
waveform* Added flash-kernel entry for Pi 3A+; LP: #184195515:06
waveform* Testing kernel fixes for Pi 4 USB issue across various pis - all looking good except for flash-kernel issue (next); LP: #184879015:06
waveform* Investigating Bionic SRU of Pi 4 support15:06
waveform* Noticed flash-kernel only updates dtb for platform it is being run on. Unfortunately, there is a baked-in assumption that it will only ever deal with one dtb (while Pi requires it to handle all dtbs, and preferably overlays too). Working on a fix; LP: #185067815:06
waveform(done)15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1841955 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "Can't upgrade kernel on raspberry pi3a+" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184195515:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1848790 in linux-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "USB not working under arm64 on Pi4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184879015:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1850678 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "flash-kernel only updates the dtb of the Pi it's on" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185067815:06
xnoxrbalint:  one can just use kernel boot option no? or is that too hard for users?15:06
xnoxrbalint:  i.e. i don't think we will be able to move off hybrid in 20.0415:07
rbalintxnox, it is fine if we don't move off, the bug is there to track readiness15:08
xnoxrbalint:  ack15:08
bdmurray#topic Release incoming bugs15:08
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bdmurrayhttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:08
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:09
bdmurrayactually lets start with ff15:09
bdmurrayhttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:09
bdmurrayThere's one new here bug 184947715:09
ubottubug 1849477 in numpy (Ubuntu Focal) "numpy fails on s390x" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184947715:09
bdmurraysomebody tagged it rls-ff-incoming and somebody said it was fixed but the tag was left15:10
xnoxbdmurray:  but also it is fixed in -proposed already by mwhudson15:10
bdmurrayI've cleaned it up but lets try not to leave that for me15:10
bdmurrayxnox: bug 184785215:10
ubottubug 1847852 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "lxd group is added to too many products" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184785215:10
bdmurrayOkay, now ee15:11
bdmurrayhttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:11
bdmurrayI still need to review those but roadmap work is taking priority15:12
bdmurraysorting by date created bug 1849156 is recent15:12
ubottubug 1849156 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-timesyncd.service broken on upgrade to 19.10 if ntp was installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184915615:12
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1849156/+activity15:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1849156 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-timesyncd.service broken on upgrade to 19.10 if ntp was installed" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:13
bdmurrayxnox: it looks like rblalint asked a question about splitting the package15:14
rbalinttaking it15:14
bdmurrayWill splitting the package fix it for Eoan?15:15
rbalintbdmurray, sruing the change will15:15
xnoxbdmurray:  yes, but upgrade testing will be fun.15:15
bdmurrayWell we'll do something for Focal, so I'll card this. The SRU fix sounds a bit more complicated.15:18
xnoxi think the key is to have it done right for Bionic to Focal upgrades15:18
bdmurraybug 184889215:18
ubottubug 1848892 in grub2 (Ubuntu) ""error: Unknown TPM error." after upgrading to grub 2.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184889215:18
cyphermoxI'm on top of that15:19
cyphermoxwill upload SRU with a patch that will mitigate this today; and I think this is a good candidate for fast-tracking15:19
cyphermoxthere's a worrying number of reports15:19
bdmurraycyphermox: Do you already have a card for it?15:19
cyphermox(I submitted my patch already upstream)15:20
cyphermoxno, there isn't AFAIK15:20
cyphermoxI go create card15:20
bdmurraycyphermox: okay, thanks!15:20
cyphermoxdone15:22
cyphermoxanyway, agree on fast-tracking>15:22
cyphermox?15:22
cyphermoxvorlon: ^15:22
bdmurraycyphermox: does fast-tracking mean wait less than 7 days in -proposed?15:22
cyphermoxyes15:22
cyphermoxthe patch is straightforward and the effects of the bug are quite jarring15:23
vorlonI'm not committing to that just yet15:23
cyphermoxOTOH, it's grub, and omg15:23
vorlonthe bug currently has no SRU template, so that's a necessary first step15:23
bdmurrayAs a fake SRU team member I'd have to see the patch before deciding15:23
bdmurrayBut it does seem important enough to get the fix out there15:24
cyphermoxbdmurray: patch is linked in my last comment on the bug15:24
cyphermoxI'll prepare the package changes shortly and update the bug with a template15:24
bdmurraycyphermox: it looks like you have bug 1848797 in hand too, but there isn't a code change correct?15:25
ubottubug 1848797 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "After upgrading to 19.10, boot screen shows: "Error: symbol 'grub_file_filters' not found."" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184879715:25
bdmurrayThere is nothing new for rls-bb15:30
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report15:30
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bdmurray#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:30
xnoxdoko:  do we care about python3-defaults migrating with 3.8 as supported, rather than starting the transition to 3.8 as default?15:31
vorlonI think despite the volume of packages here and the known entanglements, we are at a point where it's worth asking people to divide and conquer15:31
xnoxdoko:  imho it seems odd to ever support default as lower than a supported version.15:32
vorlonbecause they're largely things that do need attention in order to get them through, not just things that are waiting for infra15:32
xnox(because there are aloways things in the chain that embed default interpreters only)15:32
bdmurrayThe other day you (vorlon) had mentioned tracking the conquering - is that right?15:32
bdmurrayor maybe its really the dividing that needs tracking ;-) the conquering is obvious15:33
vorlonbdmurray: uh I'm not sure; the last thing I mentioned was about python2 removals15:33
vorlonwhich is different from this15:33
vorlonanyway, looking at python3-defaults alone, which is the oldest package on there (because archive opening), most of those are going to require attention15:33
dokoxnox: not my priority now. my priority is to work on the numpy stack, that's the most broken thing currently15:34
rbalintlet's go in order and pick15:34
vorloneither by fixing source compatibility with python3.8, or (temporarily) dropping support in the package for python3-all and filing bugs in Debian15:34
xnoxdoko:  ack =/15:34
vorlondo we just want to round-robin assign a couple to everyone?15:34
cyphermoxvolunteering for python-apt, I guess15:34
vorlonok, python-apt - cyphermox15:35
vorlonasciidoc - sil210015:35
rbalintprobably we should all take a look at the breakages for python-defaults15:35
vorloncloudpickle - mwhudson (hi!)15:35
vorlondask - tdaitx15:35
vorlonI'll skip doko because I know he's working on numpy15:36
rbalinttwisted -rbalint15:36
tdaitxvorlon: ack15:36
cyphermoxnotpandas notpandas notpandas notpandas... ;)15:36
waveformI can take pyzmq15:36
tdaitxlet me know when it is ok to send my status15:36
xnoxjajajjajjajj15:36
rbalintcron & systemd just needed a retrigger imo15:36
vorlondjango-auto-one-to-one - xnox (and fyi last I knew django base packages were incompatible with python3.8)15:36
vorlonxnox: so you can have django-mailman3 also15:37
xnoxhar, i can do django15:37
vorlongnudatalanguage - vorlon15:37
dokothere's a django transition ongoing in debian15:37
vorlongyoto - infinity15:37
vorlonhyperkitty - rbalint15:37
vorloni3pystatus - waveform15:37
vorlonare we ok to assign out a single round, and ask people to self-organize to take a second package from the list when they get it done?15:38
rbalint+115:38
doko+215:38
bdmurrayvorlon: self-organize and communicate where?15:38
vorlon#ubuntu-release, please15:39
cyphermoxcool15:39
bdmurraysounds reasonable15:39
bdmurrayIs that it regarding proposed-migration?15:40
vorlondoko, xnox: right, there was python-django 2:2.2.4-1 that was synced in eoan and then reverted because the transition wasn't ready to go; so step one is probably to merge it15:40
vorlonI think so for now15:40
bdmurray#topic AOB15:40
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rbalintbdmurray, and use update-excuse tag which i forgot from my weeklog!15:40
bdmurraybut let's rewind so we can hear what tdaitx has been up to15:40
tdaitx* whoopsie security update (LP: #1830865)15:40
tdaitx  - introduced a regression + DoS daisy server15:40
tdaitx  - fixed regression and coordinated a bit with IS15:40
tdaitx* apport security fixes (LP: #1830862, LP: #1839795, LP: #1839413, LP: #1839415, LP: #1839420)15:40
tdaitx* getting multipass serial console to work to test LP: #183125215:40
tdaitxOther:15:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1830865 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "Integer overflow in bson_ensure_space (bson.c:613)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183086515:40
tdaitx- need more coffee and sleep15:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1830862 in Apport "Apport reads arbitrary files if ~/.config/apport/settings is a symlink" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183086215:40
tdaitx(done)15:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1839795 in apport (Ubuntu) "PID recycling enables an unprivileged user to generate and read a crash report for a privileged process" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183979515:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1839413 in Apport "TOCTTOU ("time of check to time of use") "cwd" variable race condition" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183941315:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1839415 in Apport "Fully user controllable lock file due to lock file being located in world-writable directory" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183941515:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1839420 in Apport "Per-process user controllable Apport socket file" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183942015:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1831252 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Disco) "panic=-1 is completely ignored by the initrd causing unexpected behaviour" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183125215:41
tdaitxthanks bdmurray15:41
rbalintaob: i'm out tomorrow15:41
bdmurrayand sil2100 is also out15:42
bdmurrayalright thanks everybody15:44
bdmurray#endmeeting15:44
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