[00:00] <FaTaL_G> I'll try it, worst thing is, it doesnt work
[00:00] <chris11> I'd like to be able to temporarily set environmental variables in a virtual environment. is there any way to do that without modifying the venv folder?
[00:01] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: but consider routing to eg 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 or whatever... the gateway is where it'll send packets that it can't just hand to an interface to get to the next hop
[00:01] <FaTaL_G> that would have to be the  enp0s31f6 (public ip) over nat
[00:01] <FaTaL_G> not sure how to tell it to do that, and not try to route to everything connected to it
[00:02] <Jeffrey_f> Coming back from a lock screen, my Ubuntu 19.10 takes 15-30 seconds to unlock.
[00:02] <greatgatsby> Hi.  I can use `passwd -l someuser` to lock a user, but what do I do to get the asterisk instead of the exclamation mark in /etc/shadow, to simply disable password based logins?
[00:05] <sarnold> greatgatsby: maybe try -d ? (I'm guessing)
[00:06] <greatgatsby> sarnold, no, unfortunately that simply clears the password field altogether, which means it may be possible to authenticate without a password at all.
[00:08] <sarnold> greatgatsby: yikes really??
[00:08] <sarnold> greatgatsby: sorry about that. I really did think that'd do the trick. :(
[00:08] <greatgatsby> sarnold, technically, yeah, so unless the tools checking is configured not to accept empty passwords, that could be a bad thing
[00:09] <greatgatsby> from the shadow manpage for that field:   This field may be empty, in which case no passwords are required to authenticate as the specified login name.  However, ...
[00:10] <obitori> I'd like to launch qemu on a usb image the way that the usb creator launches it on a newly created usb.
[00:11] <sarnold> I really dislike that the thing you want would be easy enough with sed, but that's a silly way to do this. you know the end result you want but not which tool to use to get there. and the manpage for the most likely tool (passwd) is silent about what it means to 'delete a user's password'. I *ass* umed that was eliding over "we'll put an * in there"
[00:11] <obitori> Any idea on what the underlying command is?  (I figured I can mount the iso image and do the same thing.)
[00:12] <sarnold> obitori: maybe qemu-system-x86_64 -- though the tool you';re trying to replicate may go through full libvirt virsh stuff to create domains, hook up storage, etc etc
[00:12] <sarnold> Jeffrey_f: is there anything in the logs? eg /var/log/auth.log ? dmesg? journalctl?
[00:13] <obitori> @sarnold: tnx.  I'll play around with it.
[00:44] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: this example leads me to a conundrum...... https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/86421
[00:45] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: so basically, what I did is not wrong, however, ubuntu (I guess more specifically the networking.service) thinks it is a mistake
[00:48] <TehCraw> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 19.10, and it's stuck on the loading screen with the dots. Tried to get into tty1, but ctrl-alt-f1 does nothing.
[00:49] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: this post feels like a different situation to me -- first, they're dealing with a router-on-a-stick setup, but your router has a direct connection to the internet at learge through an interface and is pretending to be a switch to the lan
[00:49] <sarnold> TehCraw: try also control+alt+f2, and add the 'fn' key if you've got a laptop that has an 'fn' key on it
[00:50] <TehCraw> I've tried all three of those modifier keys with f numbers 1-6 in every combination. LOL
[00:52] <sarnold> :(
[00:52] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: agreed, but this example is just a synonymous consideration... in my case, I have one vlan,and one masqueraded-nat to the world, theirs is man many vlans, with each having a gateway adress pointing to "whatever vlan" manages the networks
[00:54] <FaTaL_G> just not sure that the computer is smart enough to decide what to do with certain types of traffic
[00:54] <FaTaL_G> (without a gateway)
[00:55] <sarnold> the 'ip route get' command can show you what the kernel will do with packets generated on the host -- eg compare ip route get 8.8.8.8 vs ip route get 192.168.1.13
[00:56] <mattfly> Kubuntu 18.04, qtDesigner suddenly fails to open with error: https://bpaste.net/show/FKPKQ... What can it be now?
[00:57] <TehCraw> Aigh, screw it. Fresh install it is. Thanks, sarnold
[00:59] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: never tried that, very cool. doing it with a 10.10.10.10 yields my inet address, I should create a iptables rule to prevent that forwarding.... I do not have  10/24 of any kind defined
[00:59] <FaTaL_G> other ips are all to the nat pub ip, except the 192.168.1/24
[01:00] <FaTaL_G> that one is 192.168.1.1, which is good.... after I reboot, it should do the same thing.....
[01:00] <FaTaL_G> without a subnet defined
[01:00] <FaTaL_G> errr, dfgw my bad
[01:00] <sarnold> note that 10/8 is an RFC 1918 block, like 192.168/16
[01:00] <FaTaL_G> right
[01:00] <FaTaL_G> but it is passing it to the pub ip
[01:09] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: and this guy did it without the "roter" defining a dfgw, hrmmmpf, https://www.computernetworkingnotes.com/rhce-study-guide/how-to-configure-and-use-linux-as-a-router.html
[01:10] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: it depends on the rest of the network design whether or not any given router 'needs' a default gateway
[01:11] <FaTaL_G> makes sense
[02:51] <FaTaL_G> sarnold.... guess removing the gateway was a bad idea. lol.
[02:51] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: lol :( oh no
[02:52] <FaTaL_G> put it back, flushed everything, rebooted the secondary routers *(just acting as switches/wifi) and all set
[02:53] <FaTaL_G> I do have a question.... I'm guessing I'm sol, but any advice anyone has if I'm willing to go learn, how can I properly get support for the ASUS PCIE AC88 wireless NIC?
[02:54] <FaTaL_G> there are hacks that work, I use it, it worked on 14, 16, and 18
[02:54] <FaTaL_G> and there are posts that kernel5+ has native support for it so 19 apparently has it out of the box
[02:54] <FaTaL_G> is this something I can build into 18 without upgrading to 19?
[02:55] <FaTaL_G> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1072676/asus-pce-ac88-on-ubuntu-18-04
[02:56] <FaTaL_G> the hack (which works) involves ripping the binary out of a driver for completely different hardware. I cant fathom why it works
[02:57] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: if you're doing a fresh install, 18.04.3 may be able to do it. if you've already got an install running, try the HWE kernel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[02:58] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: I upgraded from 16 to 18, I had to hack away again to get it to load the bootleg driver
[02:59] <FaTaL_G> sarnold: that link isnt loading?
[03:00] <FaTaL_G> nvm, it was just slow
[03:04] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: yeah :/ the wiki can be insanely slow sometimes
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: it also helps when you provide dmesg or journal logs of what happens to your wifi chipset, volunteers might be able to provide more help for you
[03:09] <Randolf> Is there an easy way to transform multiple lines from a text file into command-line parameters, each preceded by a switch?  For example, I have 3 lines in a text file "one" and "two" and "three" and I want to include them in a shell command as:  -n one -n two -n three
[03:11] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, I can do that, I have before, and generally the resounding help I have gotton was that "yep, I hate broadcom, their support is shiat" lol
[03:11] <FaTaL_G> just happy that there appears to be some progress
[03:12] <FaTaL_G> my dmesg is littered with traffic from the "firewall"
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: on an updated system, broadcom support has actually improved alot on ubuntu, been a while since i noticed issues with them..
[03:13] <Randolf> I noticed that Broadcom support improvement recently too.
[03:14] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4V9zGNTwww/
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: your current ubuntu version and kernel version please?
[03:16] <FaTaL_G> 4.15.0-66-generic #75-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 1 05:24:09 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:17] <FaTaL_G> Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: did you check on software&updates to see if you can switch drivers?
[03:18] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, no? (not sure how), is it a gui thing?
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: yes, the gui icon software&updates
[03:20] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, then no, not in quite a while. I usually do everything cli based
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: try please
[03:22] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, ok
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: it can help broadcom chipsets to switch from one to another driver to fix things
[03:24] <sarnold> Randolf: hopefully helpful to you: paste <(yes -- -n | head -n$(cat /etc/passwd | wc -l)) /etc/passwd
[03:26] <Randolf> sarnold: Thanks!  I didn't now about "paste" -- it looks like a very useful tool.
[03:27] <sarnold> Randolf: it's very handy indeed :)
[03:40] <Randolf> sarnold: That worked.  By the way, I added this to the end to turn it into one line:  |tr \\n " "
[03:41] <sarnold> Randolf: nice nice
[03:41] <sarnold> Randolf: btw, take a look at comm(1) too -- it's another little useful thing like paste
[03:42] <Randolf> I will.  Thanks.
[03:42] <sarnold> Randolf: you may never need comm, but it's handy, and you never know when you could make someone's day by knowing about it :)
[03:43] <Randolf> It looks like a very simple alternative to diff.
[03:44] <sarnold> yeah
[03:46] <sarnold> but this will do smarter things than diff, too; when the input is two sorted lists and you want to see the differences, diff can sometimes make *very* siully choices, meaning you can't just grep for ^+ and ^- but have to inspect by hand..
[03:47] <Randolf> Ah, it sorts.  Yeah, diff doesn't do that.
[03:49] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, where on this updater am I looking?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: tab additional drivers
[03:49] <FaTaL_G> I generally do the occasional add of a repo, or just apt-get things
[03:49] <FaTaL_G> ahhhhh..... it is empty :(
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: when you say add ppa, do you mean you added a broadcom driver ppa?
[03:53] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, no. I only ever added ones like ntop/nbox or suricata etc
[03:54] <FaTaL_G> I've never found one for brcm
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: found a few bugs around,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1594614
[03:56] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx is the gist of what I have had to use on 16.04and 18.04, mine is the brcmfmac4366c
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: did you test this yet, from a liveusb? see if wifi was working by default?
[03:57] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, in 19, no. I could try it.
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: tested on a 18.04 live? was working?
[03:57] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, the "hacked method" at least works, but its painfully slow
[03:58] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, this card never worked on 16 or 18. live or otherwise
[03:58] <FaTaL_G> until the "hacked" driver is provided
[03:59] <k1tsun3> does anyone know how i can install sha256sum
[03:59] <k1tsun3> because i keep getting an error that the package doesnt exist and cannot be found
[04:00] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, if you want to read about the "hacK" I'm refrencing, https://tabre.com/post/2/
[04:00] <FaTaL_G> that works when you do it. works as an AP too. but sloooooooooowwwwwwwww
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: interesting, maybe your chipset could deserve a new !bug but try for doublechecks a few liveusb's first, you never know its fixxed in some later kernel
[04:03] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, well, the first link I mentioned was supposedly fixed on kernel 5+
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: lets try to make sure?
[04:04] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1072676/asus-pce-ac88-on-ubuntu-18-04
[04:05] <FaTaL_G> ok, so I will download a 19 livecd
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: current 18.04 iso also has the HWE kernel 5.0
[04:08] <FaTaL_G> I grabbed the recommends, so now I have to reboot to turn on the kernel?
[04:08] <FaTaL_G> vmlinuz-5.0.0-32-generic  is present in /boot
[04:10] <FaTaL_G> lotuspsychje, can I lspci against a non loaded kernel?
[04:10] <FaTaL_G> or modprobe?
[04:13] <Bashing-om> FaTaL_G: ?? To see all installed kernels ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '.
[04:19] <LatteNero> FaTaL_G: Try whit dmesg
[04:27] <FaTaL_GG> ok, back on 5.0.0.32
[04:32] <vipin7275> usb drive is not getting detected. Please help
[04:34] <FaTaL_GG> LatteNero & lotuspsychje, so I did reboot, I am running on kernel 5.0.0.32, but the system is still shwoing me the brcmfmac4366c-pcie.bin I placed in /lib/firmware/brcm/ months ago
[04:37] <FaTaL_GG> (when I run dmesg)
[04:38] <vipin7275> HI usb drive is not getting detected. Please help
[04:38] <Bashing-om> vipin7275: Is the USB device formatted and with a file system ?
[04:38] <vipin7275> i was trying to format with FAT. after that device is not showing up
[04:40] <vipin7275> @Bashin-om: i was trying to format with FAT. after that device is not showing up
[04:41] <vipin7275> HI
[04:43] <Bashing-om> vipin7275: ' lsusb ' show the device ?
[04:46] <FaTaL_GG> LatteNero & lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ng8C9gCvmR/
[06:55] <prophecy04> has anyone been able to get sssd to work on Ubuntu 19.10?  The service fails on my system
[07:37] <Fudg> hi all just bought a lenovo ideacentre 510s, the hex core i5. i popped my ubuntu drive in but after the purple splash screen the monitor looses signal. any ideas?
[07:50] <erle-> What do when LibreOffice does not find intalled font? (URW Palladio)
[07:50] <erle-> Gnome Tweaks and Firefox use them
[08:20] <mystic> Tor browser wont atart, and icon missing from app drawer. please advise
[08:20] <mystic> start*
[08:23] <mystic> im waiting for the answer
[10:43] <B|ack0p> hi
[10:44] <B|ack0p> i again faced system error popup after i woke the pc from sleep mode
[10:44] <B|ack0p> gnome-shell and xwayland crashes
[10:44] <B|ack0p> in /var/crash
[11:01] <lyiriyah> Hi.I am on Ubuntu Budgie 19.10 with a ZFS formatted 256GB drive.
[11:02] <lyiriyah> When I run os-prober it kicks out this error: device-mapper: reload ioctl on osprober-linux-sda5  failed: Device or resource busy Command failed.
[11:02] <lyiriyah> Does anyone have a fix?
[11:05] <arunza> hi
[11:05] <lyiriyah> arunza, y'areet
[11:06] <thyriaen> i am looking for a command line command : i want to contents of all the folders in my directory copied into my current directory
[11:06] <thyriaen> how do i do this ?
[11:06] <arunza> basically i have a problem: whenever i try to install a package it always say im not connected to internet. Here's the exact error it gives me: https://bit.ly/2WCLnFD
[11:06] <thyriaen> i basically want to defolderfy my current directory :P
[11:07] <lyiriyah> arunza, how funny
[11:07] <arunza> oO
[11:08] <lyiriyah> do you actually have an issue
[11:08] <arunza> no
[11:09] <lyiriyah> ok
[11:09] <lyiriyah> thyriaen, can you elaborate a bit?
[11:10] <lyiriyah> sounds a bit like you need cp -R
[11:12] <lyiriyah> wtd
[11:12] <lyiriyah> who was that
[11:13] <thyriaen> lyiriyah, i have a folder with 100 folders in them, they each contain folders with files in them - i want to have all the files out of their respective folders copied into my big directory
[11:13] <thyriaen> so they all sit on their own not wrapped into folders :P
[11:13] <lyiriyah> yeah you need cp -R
[11:14] <lyiriyah> recursively copies
[11:14] <arunza> -r is better
[11:14] <thyriaen> but if i recursively copy
[11:15] <thyriaen> they are all still inside their folders
[11:18] <lyiriyah> thyriaen, run cp -rv src dest subst src and dest for the source and destination and paste the output here
[11:19] <lyiriyah> e.g cp -rv ~ .
[11:20] <Guest_76> nvme server install pains, anyone surmounted them either 18.04 lts or 19.10 ?
[11:21] <Guest_76> i  can boot / install desktop fine
[11:23] <Guest_76> OSError: [Errno Failed to find device at path: %s] /dev/disk/by-id/eui-etc000000
[11:29] <lyiriyah> yh bye lads
[11:33] <fluitfries> have a ubuntu that doesnt want to boot x anymore.  started having problems with Vivaldi browser then stopped loading window session.  I can get a remote ssh into the system but that's about it when it comes up.  no display.  is there an option to auto-repair ubuntu installation?
[11:39] <B|ack0p> i ruined terminal colors :S
[11:39] <B|ack0p> what was the default terminal purple color code?
[11:39] <B|ack0p> html code
[11:39] <B|ack0p> #xxxxxx
[11:39] <B|ack0p> ubuntu 18.04
[12:12] <foist> Is it not possible to install snaps without sudo, without logging in? I have no interest in making an Ubuntu account.
[12:17] <LuckyMan> foist, you can install without login, just sudo
[12:18] <LuckyMan> foist, specially if you do it on the terminal
[12:19] <LuckyMan> foist, but having a ubuntu account is great, you can report bugs and do a lot more
[12:21] <thyriaen> i am trying to batch remove a "- " string from my files - https://hastebin.com/ewijetuyip.bash this gives me an error that saying target "foobar" is not a directory which is the suffix of my files
[12:25] <foist> LuckyMan: I don't want to have to run every snap as sudo. Is there any way around that?
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> foist: why are you trying so hard to avoid sudo in ubuntu exactly?
[12:28] <foist> Why would I want to run applications with superuser privs?
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> foist: running is not installing
[12:30] <foist> If you install it with sudo you have to run it with sudo.
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> false statement foist
[12:31] <foist> Hmm, really?
[12:35] <foist> It appears I was mistaken. Thanks.
[12:46] <ybaumy> hi. question. i search for a music player with an IOS app that control the player  either via bluetooh or wifi. any suggestions
[12:47] <ybaumy> to clarify an ubuntu app
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> ybaumy: for apple devices we often reccomend clementine or rythmbox
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> ybaumy: but not sure if they support BT or wifi sync
[12:53] <ybaumy> lotuspsychje: tried rhytmbox but this somehow does not work. it also seems to only provide sync. i would like to see the remote library .. maybe i need to try kodi
[12:54] <ybaumy> clementine i have not looked at yet
[12:55] <ybaumy> lotuspsychje: but i see that clementine has a network remote and even a google drive integration
[12:55] <ybaumy> will try that
[12:55] <ybaumy> thanks
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> welcome ybaumy
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:34] <tommy``> hi
[14:34] <swimm3r> hi
[14:35] <swimm3r> asl pls :)
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> !chat | swimm3r
[14:36] <swimm3r> !chat | lotuspsychje
[14:42] <doug16k> lol
[14:45] <im0nde> Hi, need help with a systemd unit. I'm installing jira but it wont start. "systemctl status  jira" shows this: https://gist.github.com/binaryplease/392fd47a62cbc5096eff2b91dc66cbd7
[14:45] <im0nde> I don't understand whats wrong, running /opt/jira/bin/start-jira.sh manually works fine
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> !crosspost | im0nde
[14:46] <im0nde> lotuspsychje: Sorry, wasn't sure anyone was there. Will wait paitiently, sorry
[14:52] <swimm3r> !chat | lotuspsychje
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> swimm3r: please dont abuse the bot thanks
[14:54] <swimm3r> you started :(
[14:55] <swimm3r> it's Saturday, every enjoyed the "asl pls" joke :(
[14:57] <swimm3r> ciao all. is anyone using Astrometa DVB-C usb stick?
[15:30] <k1tsun3> Im running ubuntu as a vm and cant figure out how to get my clock to sync properly
[15:35] <leden> k1tsun3,version
[15:36] <leden> k1tsun3, witch version you running
[15:37] <k1tsun3> 18.03
[15:39] <leden> k1tsun3, you mean 18.04
[15:43] <leden> k1tsun3, Settings -- Details -- Date & Time --Automatic Date & Time will set your time & date extra option Automatic Zone too
[15:47] <k1tsun3> leden: i set that but it isnt working
[15:48] <k1tsun3> automatic time & timezone are correct but its saying the time is 12:47AM when it is really 11:47 AM
[15:48] <doug16k> k1tsun3, your timezone is probably incorrect
[15:48] <k1tsun3> doug16k: nope it is set to NY
[15:49] <doug16k> k1tsun3, can the guest access the internet?
[15:49] <k1tsun3> yes
[15:49] <k1tsun3> the guest has the wrong timezone, the host is correct
[15:50] <jeremy31> k1tsun3: any VM BIOS settings?
[15:50] <doug16k> the guest needs to have the correct timezone, otherwise it will apply the wrong offset to the time it gets from the timeserver
[15:57] <k1tsun3> doug16k: do you mean the host needs to have the correct timezone? because my host has the correct timezone the guest is the one iwth the issue
[15:57] <doug16k> I mean the guest needs to have the correct timezone
[15:58] <doug16k> you seem to be convinced that the guest timezone is not relevant. it is relevant
[15:59] <doug16k> the host time has effect when the guest first powers on. from then on, the guest is free to do as it pleases with the clock
[15:59] <Cyber_Akuma> modern liveisos of ubuntu still come with Memtest86+ right?
[16:00] <jeremy31> Cyber_Akuma: depends on whether booted in Legacy or UEFI mode
[16:00] <Cyber_Akuma> I see, which mode allows for memtext86+
[16:03] <doug16k> k1tsun3, a linux host clock hardware is actually set in GMT. a linux guest will also be setting its emulated hardware clock to GMT, so again the timezone of the guest completely determines the guest's time
[16:04] <doug16k> the host and guest could have exactly the same time setting in their RTCs and still have different local time when the timezone of the guest is wrong
[16:05] <doug16k> s/GMT/UTC/ (practically the same thing)
[16:07] <k1tsun3> doug16k: do you mean the host needs to have the correct timezone? because my host has the correct timezone the guest is the one iwth the issue\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[16:08] <Sven_vB> k1tsun3, so what does date -R say on the guest?
[16:08] <Sven_vB> actually just "date" is better as it states the timezone name
[16:14] <k1tsun3> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[16:16] <kre10> hey guys, I need some script to scan udp address, like nmap or something.
[16:19] <palo-alto> design so poor
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[16:20] <ioria> k1tsun3, do you need help ?
[16:20] <doug16k> kre10, do you mean scan the UDP ports of a specific host?
[16:21] <kre10> doug16k, exactly
[16:21] <doug16k> kre10, nmap -sU ip
[16:21] <kre10> doug16k, http://host/udp/239.0.0.1 ?
[16:22] <doug16k> kre10, nmap -sU 239.0.0.1
[16:22] <k1tsun3> ioria: i went to the bathroom and came back to my husky sitting on my keyboard
[16:22] <kre10> I want to scan all udp ports after host/udp/X.X.X.X
[16:22] <ioria> k1tsun3, ok
[16:22] <kre10> nmap - sU host?
[16:23] <doug16k> without the space before sU, yes
[16:23] <kre10> OK, I will try
[16:24] <doug16k> kre10, needs root privileges, so actually sudo nmap -sU host
[16:24] <kre10> yes, I figure it out, but doesn't find anything
[16:24] <kre10> Failed to resolve
[16:24] <kre10> I put port after the host, that should be OK right?
[16:25] <FaTaL_G> I used https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395 when I installed my broadcom wireless in 16 & 18, now that I have kernel 5.0.0.32, how do I change from using the "hacked" driver I placed in /lib/firmware/brcfm, to the one that exists IN THE KERNEL?
[16:25] <doug16k> kre10, not ok
[16:25] <doug16k> whole point is to scan all possible ports
[16:26] <kre10> yes, but actually I don't want to scan ports after host. I know what port is. I want to scan host:port/udp/HERE(239.0.0.1)
[16:26] <kre10> is that possible at all ?
[16:29] <kre10> doug16k, ideas?
[16:30] <kre10> something like this - https://github.com/joolzg/udpxyscan
[16:32] <doug16k> kre10, to see if a specific UDP port is open? this: nmap -sU -p port host
[16:32] <FaTaL_G> I dont know how to tell what driver the hardware is actually running with, but it looks like it is running with the "hacked" one
[16:33] <FaTaL_G> I suppose I can just delete it lol
[16:33] <kre10> I know which port is open. I want to know which udp address is open - like host:port/udp/239.0.0.1
[16:33] <doug16k> FaTaL_G, pci device? lspci -k
[16:33] <kre10> 239.0.0.1 is what I've searching
[16:34] <doug16k> FaTaL_G, look for Kernel driver in use:
[16:35] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: If you put a hacked driver in the firmware folder, it will do nothing most times
[16:36] <oerheks> " how do I change from using the "hacked" driver I placed in /lib/firmware/brcfm   .. "  just delete that file?
[16:37] <jeremy31> I don't know of a driver that will even load firmware from that directory unless it is supposed to be /lib/firmware/brcm
[16:37] <FaTaL_G> doug16k, it says " Kernel driver in use: brcmfmac " but if I run dmesg: ? brcmfmac: brcmf_fw_map_chip_to_name: using brcm/brcmfmac4366c-pcie.bin for chip 0x004366(17254) rev 0x000004 ?
[16:38] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31, the dmesg tells me it is using it still
[16:39] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: If you got that file from upstream linux-firmware or a newer Ubuntu version of Linux-firmware, it should be fine
[16:40] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31 doug16k: the hacked driver works, but like ship. Its a well known thing (see: https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395) but last night people here helped me get onto kernel 5.0.0.32 which has support for the card. So I want to ensure it is using the kernel version only
[16:40] <FaTaL_G> my card fell into this category: 14e4:43c3 rev 04    UNKNOWN                           Special Case #2
[16:41] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: Just do> sudo apt install --reinstall linux-firmware
[16:41] <FaTaL_G> it will pull from 5 now since Im on 5?
[16:42] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: There isn't a special linux-firmware for any kernel version
[16:43] <FaTaL_G> oerheks, that is what I was wondering.
[16:44] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31 .... nice....... doing the firmware install the file is now changed: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1120971 Jul 12 08:42 brcmfmac4366c-pcie.bin
[16:45] <FaTaL_G> now it is older hahaha
[16:46] <FaTaL_G> so I understand - when a kernel has support already built into it, does it still require a bin file in /lib/firmware/* to function?
[16:47] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: Yes, that card needs firmware and there hasn't been a change to that firmware file since 2018
[16:48] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31, agreed.... makes sense. Good thing I didn't just delete the file.... so, the changes in kernel 5+ werent "the driver" but how the KERNEL interfaces to the driver?
[16:49] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: The 5.0 kernel might have updates to the drivers in the kernel but in this case it uses the same firmware as the older kernel
[16:51] <FaTaL_G> got it. Then its ok that it is using the "hacked" firmware. In fact, ages ago, when I followed directions to pull the firmware from the windows driver, the binary/checksum of my hacked pull matches what is checked in to the official linux kernel lol
[16:52] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: If you got it from Ubuntu package linux-firmware or upstreams linux-firmware, it is not a hacked firmware
[16:57] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31, trust me, it is. It binary matches what is pulled from the drivers used for windows. I kid you not. Here is at least one thread about it: (https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?310626-Fedora-24-and-ASUS-PCE-AC-88&p=1769999#post1769999)
[16:57] <FaTaL_G> granted it did come from asus/broadcom, but still.... a bit of a hack to obtain functionality on linux
[16:59] <doug16k> firmware runs on the device. what makes you think it would vary per OS?
[17:00] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: >  sha1sum /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac4366c-pcie.bin
[17:01] <jeremy31> I am fairly sure that firmware was not part of linux-firmware in 2016
[17:03] <FaTaL_G> doug16k, jeremy31, all I was getting at is that when using firmware compiled for and loaded on NOT LINUX, I'd expect the built packages to be compressed or packaged for that OS, so I wouldn't think the binary to be the same for each os
[17:05] <oerheks> maybe time for a fresh install...
[17:06] <FaTaL_G> doug16k, jeremy31, but when I did the binwalk trick and ripped the 4366c.bin data from the downloaded driver from asus website, it matched what is checked into the linux kernel now (the 2018 one you mentioned). And if you go download the latest and greatest from asus, (I did it a few months ago), the binary is newer and obviously not the same data, but it still works in ubuntu :)
[17:07] <oerheks> oh, it works ..
[17:07] <FaTaL_G> oerheks, why? It works. I jsut wanted to make sure now that I have the 5.0 kernel installed it was actually using it. I didn't realize it still required the/a /bin/firmware/brcm/*.bin file
[17:10] <FaTaL_G> oh yes, I am on my laptop now and connected via that wireless card acting as an AP. But I have had that working on 16.04 and 18.04 pre 5.0 kernel for the last 2 years. Now that people are reporting it works faster and properly on 5.0, I did the update to kernel 5.0.0.32 last night, and I want to make sure I did it right. And thought, I had to "get rid of" the hacked file
[17:11] <FaTaL_G> I thought it would either stop using the /lib/firmware bin I manually placed there, or overwrite it with a new file. It didn't :)
[17:12] <doug16k> extremely complex devices like wireless NICs often have some amount of executable code that runs on a cpu embedded in the device. sometimes that is flashed onto the device and you can pretty much forget about it. sometimes it has to be loaded at runtime
[17:13] <FaTaL_G> doug16k, so does this mean perhaps, if I go grab the latest and greatest today, (from asus), and rip it again, and test it, and it works well, I should push a ticket to update the 2018 version on the kernel now?
[17:14] <doug16k> there is little reason to believe that newer is better. more likely, the newer version also supports some newer revision of the hardware
[17:14] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: If there was a better firmware, broadcom would have committed it to upstream linux-firmware
[17:15] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31, broadcom doesnt support linux on this chipset.
[17:15] <doug16k> broadcom would be a bit stupid to give free improvements to everyone. it is in their financial interest to NOT improve existing devices, in the hopes that you buy a new better one to get improvements
[17:16] <FaTaL_G> doug16k, ahha, there is some truth to that, but they also have to support their current devices as to avoid a bad rep, there is a balance.
[17:16] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: look at https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/commit/brcm?id=211de1679a68b8ab0f841a8058df35e13e3963f0 firmware submitted by arend.vanpriel@broadcom.com
[17:16] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31, ok
[17:20] <FaTaL_G> jeremy31: 60812f1472ef6737ac2ef072632b0cc6fddb2d02  /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac4366c-pcie.bin   &&    dc28d55aa640966260fb45e10efc94fbe8a33a8f  /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac4366c-pcie.txt
[17:21] <FaTaL_G> just so you know, the first is the one I got today on the reinstall you requested. The second is what I have been using for months that I pulled out of the asus website file like 10 months ago
[17:22] <FaTaL_G> clearly different, both worked. both are for that chipset, but as doug16k suggested, newer isn't always better. I'll stick with the one checked into the kernel for now and see if it performs any differently
[17:26] <FaTaL_G> I just looked at the asus website... and it looks like the JUST released the source code less than a month ago
[17:27] <FaTaL_G> Uder "Others" -- https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RT-AC88U/HelpDesk_Download/
[17:36] <jamesnvc> hello! I just started seeing an issue with apt-get on Ubuntu 18.04.3; when I try to run apt-get install or apt-get update, all of the ubuntu, canonical, and launchpad repos fail to connect, giving a "Connection failed" error. I can fetch all those repos with curl though, I don't have a proxy in place, and the IP address apt shows seems to be correct
[17:37] <jamesnvc> I did have a power outage a few days ago, but the computer is on a UPS, so it should have shut down cleanly
[17:37] <oerheks> hi jamesnvc, pastebin the output of update?
[17:38] <jamesnvc> sure, https://pastebin.com/RxKXiFhu
[17:42] <oerheks> that mirror should be oke, what happens if you switch to main in the updatetool?
[17:45] <jamesnvc> Looks like the same thing; using the gui "Sofctware & updates" to change download from to main (previosuly was "server for Canada"), now updating cache is proceding very slowly & saying "Notwork isn't available" for all the repos
[17:47] <oerheks> :-(
[17:47] <jamesnvc> Yeah...very puzzling :/
[17:48] <jamesnvc> is there any way to get more verbose output from apt about how exactly it's failing?
[17:50] <tomreyn> jamesnvc: see the bottom of apt.conf(5)
[17:51] <tomreyn> or rather the DEBUG OPTIONS section
[17:52] <jamesnvc> tomreyn: thanks!
[17:54] <tomreyn> jamesnvc: you're welcome. so you proably want something like      sudo apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=1' update
[17:55] <tomreyn> "Connection failed" rather sounds like a plain TCP connection failure, though, and you might rather need to diagnose this using tcpdump
[17:55] <tomreyn> (or 'mtr' to inspect the route, packet loss)
[17:57] <jamesnvc> hrm, mtr seems fine, 0% loss & curl seems to be able to fetch the pack lists fine
[17:58] <styler2go> Hey everyone. I did do-release-upgrade and now wanted to update some other package too but apt ist telling me: "14 not fully installed or removed.". can somone help me what to do? i get a lot of errors like dependency problems and "is not configured yet"
[17:59] <styler2go> I already tried "apt install -f" and "dpkg --configure -a"
[18:01] <tomreyn> styler2go: can you gather some info (won't change anything):   sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[18:02] <styler2go> https://termbin.com/ujvy
[18:03] <tomreyn> styler2go: looks like you just need to run     sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:04] <styler2go> It terminates because of too many errors
[18:04] <tomreyn> styler2go: can you share the output?
[18:05] <styler2go> https://termbin.com/593k
[18:06] <styler2go> Is the dbDriver the actual problem maybe?
[18:07] <tomreyn> you probably have a "dpkg" process running which is waiting for input, either in another window or as part of the (unfinished?) upgrade
[18:07] <tomreyn> is this on a remote server you were logged in to using ssh, and the connection dropped?
[18:07] <tomreyn> try this: screen -x
[18:08] <styler2go> https://p.styler2go.de/849148
[18:08] <styler2go> tomreyn, this just showed a closed screen which let me decide x to close or r to restart
[18:09] <tomreyn> so the upgrade had completed, ok
[18:09] <styler2go> does the fuser paste help?
[18:09] <tomreyn> the fuser output is a bit short
[18:09] <styler2go> it did not show any more
[18:10] <tomreyn> does this give more?   COLUMNS=200 fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[18:10] <styler2go> nope :/
[18:12] <tomreyn> hmm i'm not sure how to get the full process name uot there
[18:12] <tomreyn> oh via pid
[18:12] <styler2go> i did ps aux and grep
[18:12] <styler2go> it shows: root     29098  0.0  0.1  32796 23808 ?        S    15:16   0:00 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-8.0.postinst configure
[18:12] <styler2go> i think it got stuck there?
[18:13] <tomreyn> yes, looks like
[18:13] <styler2go> (i started do-release-upgrade like 3 hours ago, maybe 4)
[18:13] <tomreyn> it's waiting for your input to configure mysqld
[18:13] <styler2go> can i safely kill it and somehow restart?
[18:13] <tomreyn> yes, you can reinstall it, this should re-run the postconf script
[18:14] <tomreyn> so kill it, then   sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-8.0
[18:14] <styler2go> ah apt install -f re-ran it
[18:15] <tomreyn> ok :), so then you can full-upgrade
[18:17] <tomreyn> grub-pc was amongst the packages which had not been upgraded, yet. so make sure this upgrades properly, maybe run grub-install and update-grub manually just to be safe
[18:17] <styler2go> I think the mysql daemon/service is having some trouble. i am typing "service mysql stop" and it hangs up for a while, also apt does hang up on "Setting up mysql-server-8.0"
[18:21] <styler2go> https://p.styler2go.de/5305140 this for example doesnt sound right: https://p.styler2go.de/4272800
[18:21] <styler2go> oups, second paste is the relevant one
[18:24] <jamesnvc> btw, with my apt failing issue, after running apt-get -o Debug::Acquire::http=1 update, it's still failing, but is taking a very very long time; I see all the GET requests, which look reasonable (and if I duplicate them with curl, they succeed), I saw one 200 OK response, but everything else is not working
[18:24] <jamesnvc>  
[18:25] <styler2go> tomreyn, the mysql upgrade does not work
[18:25] <styler2go> it runs up until "mysql is running as pid xyz" and then just hangs there: https://p.styler2go.de/1482865
[18:28] <tomreyn> styler2go: hmm so you think that process 29107 started process 29806   as a result of you running    apt install -f   ? or was process 29107 (started 4 minutes earlier) already active beforehand?
[18:29] <styler2go> tomreyn, i did play around a bit but the current situation is that apt install -f is stuck at "mysqld is running as..."
[18:29] <tomreyn> i'm wondering whether someone or something started the mysql server when the configuration was still in process, or whether the server was started as a result of the configuration takingt place
[18:30] <styler2go> any commands i can do to help figuring out?
[18:30] <tomreyn> i guess if you can't stop mysqld cleanly you'll need to kill PID 29806, then 29107, then  sudo  /bin/bash /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-8.0.postinst configure
[18:30] <tomreyn> then ensure this exits cleanly, then start mysqld normally
[18:30] <styler2go> those are all current commands with mysql: https://p.styler2go.de/9869305
[18:31] <tomreyn> is this time current?
[18:31] <styler2go> yes
[18:31] <tomreyn> like, just a few minutes ago?
[18:31] <StephenLynx> hey, I got a weird issue:
[18:32] <styler2go> that's the current state i am in right now, i did kill the process before already
[18:32] <StephenLynx> if I alt+tab out of stuff and they are playing audio, the audio gets weird.
[18:32] <StephenLynx> I transferred this hard drive from a different computer
[18:32] <tomreyn> styler2go: have a look at the mysql error log
[18:32] <StephenLynx> and it started doing this.
[18:32] <StephenLynx> it happened both with youtube and hotline miami 2
[18:33] <tomreyn> styler2go: the PID printed at https://p.styler2go.de/1482865   does not match any of those given in your ps output
[18:33] <StephenLynx> when it first happened with hotline miami I thought the issue was the game, but now that I noticed it happening with youtube videos too, I think it's my system
[18:33] <styler2go> 3179 does not exist
[18:34] <styler2go> the error log has errors
[18:35] <styler2go> https://termbin.com/9sdy
[18:35] <StephenLynx> it doesn't happen to vlc
[18:35] <StephenLynx> i can either minize it to the tray
[18:35] <StephenLynx> or the window
[18:37] <StephenLynx> huh, restarted firefox, issue is gone.
[18:38] <StephenLynx> welp
[18:40] <tomreyn> styler2go: ibdata1 not being lockable (for exclusive access) probably means that either multiple mysqld processes were accessing it in parallel or there are file system errors.
[18:41] <styler2go> ok so: when i run apt install -f it just starts the mysqld...
[18:41] <styler2go> i will try running your postinst directly
[18:42] <tomreyn> before oyu do this, make sure all mysql processes are terminated
[18:42] <styler2go> yes
[18:42] <tomreyn> the postconf script will probably start mysqld up as part of the configuration
[18:43] <styler2go> even running /bin/bash /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-8.0.postinst configure just starts the mysqld and hangs up :(
[18:43] <tomreyn> i'm wondering whether the root causse is actually     [ERROR] [MY-000061] [Server] 1396  Operation ALTER USER failed for 'root'@'localhost'.
[18:43] <styler2go> i can create a localhost user wait
[18:47] <tomreyn> note that besides the "mysql-server-8.0" package, the "mysql-server" package was also pending an upgrade earlier.
[18:48] <styler2go> jupp, that helped
[18:49] <tomreyn> styler2go: nice. i need to leave for a bit, should be back in 45 min, but not for long. please sum up the situation again and repeat your question if you need help in the meantime.
[18:49] <styler2go> tomreyn, the root@ was the problem. thank you a lot!
[18:53] <imi> hi. how can I prevent a certain generated file to be deleted when rightclick rebuild is issued in qt creator (qmake based project)?
[18:55] <imi> mischan sorry
[18:58] <oerheks> imi, you might want to reask in #kubuntu ?
[19:02] <imi> oerheks: ok, thank you, don't worry :)
[19:14] <StephenLynx> holy shit the issue is steam
[19:14] <StephenLynx> if I have steam window open
[19:14] <StephenLynx> the audio of other stuff goes weird.
[19:15]  * oerheks avoids 'holy shit' and goes couchsurfing
[19:34] <jamesnvc> any other ideas for things I can try to get my apt to work?
[19:35] <jamesnvc> I tried changing the sources to some other things in "software & updates", and some sources are able to fetch some of the sources, but a bunch of them still fail
[19:38] <oerheks> jamesnvc, sudo apt install -f # or removes the lists, and run spt update again > sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists >>>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[19:38] <oerheks> else i have no clue what is wrong :-(
[19:40] <alik> Hi everyone. Are ubuntu mirrors currently broken? apt update fails with default mirrors.
[19:41] <oerheks> hi alik, can you pastebin the output of sudo apt update please?
[19:41] <CarlFK> No one in u-mirror is complaining
[19:41] <jamesnvc> unless it's the same weird thing I'm experiencing...
[19:42] <oerheks> CarlFK, thanks for your responce, jamesnvc and alik seem to have issues, jamesnvc on Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.26 80]
[19:42] <alik> https://pastebin.com/3wDCjjxe
[19:42] <alik> Currently tested on two machines: Ubuntu 18.4 desktop and 18.04 server. Spinning up a VM to test.
[19:43] <oerheks> i am on the dutch mirror, lets see what main does..
[19:44] <oerheks> no issue :-(
[19:45] <alik> What is weird is that just curl-in the mirror seems to work. I guess I'll have to look at tcpdump.
[19:45] <oerheks> us.archive.ubuntu.com is serious slow ..
[19:46] <jamesnvc> alik, I'm seeing the same issue; glad to know it's not just me, at least
[19:46] <tomreyn> which of these six ips are you referring to?
[19:47] <tomreyn> alik:  can oyu run this and post the http addree it returns?    curl --resolve ca.archive.ubuntu.com:91.189.91.24:80 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ &> /tmp/curl; cat /tmp/curl | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:47] <alik> I tried with 91.189.91.14
[19:47] <tomreyn> oh curl works for you as well, ok
[19:48] <tomreyn> that's the same as jamesnvc reported
[19:48] <alik> tomreyn https://termbin.com/0cq2
[19:48] <alik> jamesnvc, what mirror are you having issue with?
[19:49] <oerheks> yes, all in the 91.189.91.XX range
[19:49] <tomreyn> yes, looks fine. so it could be intermittent packet loss, a flaky route, a misconfigured firewall on the destination,
[19:49] <jamesnvc> ca.archive.ubuntu.com, but securuity.ubuntu.com and ppa.launchpad.net are all failing for me
[19:49] <tomreyn> all of those point to canonicals cloud
[19:49] <jamesnvc> hm, although one that's also failing for me is teamviewer's repo, which is at 99.68.58.4
[19:50] <alik> jamesnvc, the same for me, interesting.
[19:51] <tomreyn> maybe you two can check your mtr / traceroutes for similarities?
[19:53] <tomreyn> you're with different ISPs AS9009 vs AS5645, but both in .CA
[19:54] <oerheks> well, there are some problems with powerlines and such in cali ..
[19:55] <jamesnvc> https://termbin.com/cxpc
[19:55] <tomreyn> canada, not california
[19:56] <tomreyn> alik: can you post mtr output, too, to compare?
[19:57] <tomreyn> jamesnvc: your destination address was?
[19:58] <tomreyn> tcpdump then, i'd say
[19:58] <alik> Same mtr for me, also on teksavvy
[19:58] <jamesnvc> oh, that was to ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:58] <alik> tomreyn you see me on different ISP because of VPN. So since both of us on the same ISP maybe its ISP problem?
[19:58] <jamesnvc> interesting...something weird on teksavvy's network (which I guess is roger's fault))
[19:59] <jamesnvc> we can both curl though, how odd :S
[19:59] <jamesnvc> huh https://askubuntu.com/questions/1185612/apt-get-stuck-on-waiting-for-headers
[19:59] <jamesnvc> apparently this is a thing that rogers is doing now
[19:59] <tomreyn> alik: oh, could be then. but we'd yet need to find out what exactly. could be a transparent proxy. the route jamesnvc posted is way too short
[20:00] <alik> Yes. But looking at tcpdump I see packets sent but no replies. Wondering if its some filtering based on header/UA? Gonna do some experiments.
[20:00] <tomreyn> omg isp fail
[20:01] <jamesnvc> Yup; I changed the user agent for apt and it works again
[20:02] <tomreyn> apparently their thinking must have been along the lines of "our users are good users, they only use http clients from this whitelist we made up by fair dice roll, and we have all the rights to block the traffic of our paying customers if they use something abnormal!!!111"
[20:02] <alik> Can confirm, problem with user agent
[20:03] <tomreyn> can only recomend you send them your love and appreciation.
[20:03] <alik> E.g. curl --header 'Host: ca.archive.ubuntu.com' --header 'User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (1.6.6)'   - this doesnt work. Without user agent works >_<
[20:04] <jamesnvc> tomreyn: oh, I will surely be doing that
[20:04] <tomreyn> chances are it's just a misconfiguration on their part, though, i shouldn't be so mean.
[20:05] <tomreyn> the reports are all fairly young
[20:05] <jamesnvc> yeah, I won't be, just let them know that people out there are affected
[20:05] <tomreyn> they probably tried to reroute this traffic to a proxy server they host.
[20:06] <alik> Going to write them as well. Thank you everyone for help, appreciate the responsiveness.
[20:06] <jamesnvc> yes, thank you so much for helping figure out this issue, it was very puzzling!
[20:15] <NewToLubuntu> would anyone here know about firefox and flash players for troubleshooting?
[20:16] <jeremy31> NewToLubuntu: Even the browsers are stopping the use of flash
[20:16] <tomreyn> flash will be gone soon, for many reasons. do you strictl still need it?
[20:16] <NewToLubuntu> right now I'm trying to do an online course
[20:17] <NewToLubuntu> its instructions use an embed of Brightcove Player Version 6.37.3
[20:17] <NewToLubuntu> my guess is they probably won't update this any time soon
[20:17] <tomreyn> i'm not sure about the version, but generally this player works fine without flash
[20:17] <NewToLubuntu> I'm able to play the video, but the fullscreen button on the lower-right is non-responsive
[20:17] <NewToLubuntu> so it's very difficult to see the video details
[20:18] <NewToLubuntu> https://support.brightcove.com/known-issues-studio-brightcove-player-and-apis mentions something about this
[20:18] <NewToLubuntu> "In environments where Flash is disabled or Flash-based HLS is disabled  for the player, and the player is explicitly sized using a style  attribute on the video  tag, fullscreen viewing may not function in some browsers."
[20:18] <NewToLubuntu> so I'm trying to figure out if I have Flash and/or Flash-based HLS enabled
[20:19] <NewToLubuntu> I'm not sure what to search for under the Synaptic Package Manager for Lubuntu though, I'm hoping it's something that just wasn't included which I could download
[20:20] <ioria> NewToLubuntu, sy, Brightcove is based on html5 afaik, why do you need flash ?
[20:21] <tomreyn> NewToLubuntu: you should talk to the company whose courses you're using and point them to this information. in the meantime, you can try playing those videos in an external player such as vlc instead.
[20:23] <tomreyn> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hls-stream-detector/ might help there (I have no first hand experience with it)
[20:23] <tomreyn> installing flash seems like the worst solution
[20:26] <NewToLubuntu> it usually has security vulnerabilites I'm guessing...
[20:26] <NewToLubuntu> maybe if I onl enabled it for just this one site?
[20:27] <NewToLubuntu> I actually already e-mailed my school about it but my guess is it would take a lot of work to rewrite the pages so they won't do it very quickly, and I have limited time to complete the course
[20:27] <NewToLubuntu> I have VLC but I'm not sure how I would have it access these videos, I can't see a way to download them
[20:28] <tomreyn> if you'd install the firefox extension i pointed you to it would let you extract the stream url from the web page and then you could open this in vlc
[20:28] <NewToLubuntu> I installed the HLS stream detector as tomreyn advised, and got a notification...
[20:28] <NewToLubuntu> but I'm not sure how "use the right-click context menu to copy the URL" would work
[20:29] <NewToLubuntu> when I right click, "The Stream Menu" is an option that displays at the bottom now
[20:29] <recon_dsk> NewToLubuntu: install videodownloadhelper into firefox and download any web video
[20:29] <NewToLubuntu> but hoverong on that only gives a "Pause Detection" thing to click
[20:30] <tomreyn> NewToLubuntu: maybe this browser extension i found isn't the best, you can try another one
[20:30] <tomreyn> as i said, i never used it.but there will be many like this.
[20:31] <NewToLubuntu> this? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/versions/
[20:31] <recon_dsk> yep, thats the one, free for linux :)
[20:37] <NewToLubuntu> this says it can "access data for all websites"
[20:37] <NewToLubuntu> does mozilla.addons.org investigate stuff for trustworthiness before allowing them?
[20:38] <NewToLubuntu> I wouldn't want my email passwords to get taken
[20:40] <NewToLubuntu> https://www.downloadhelper.net/privacy says "When using the Video DownloadHelper, no data are sent back to our service.  " but what about other services?
[20:42] <recon_dsk> NewToLubuntu: buggered if i know, the dev makes his money off windows users. other than that I've no idea.
[20:42] <alik> NewToLubuntu: you can create a VM and do all this flash/addon installation and downloading there, so none of your data will be exposed if the extension is compromised.
[20:44] <recon_dsk> or add a new user and add the plugin on that users firefox
[20:45] <recon_dsk> probably not as safe as a vm though
[20:46] <tomreyn> NewToLubuntu: if you have a look at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ you'll notice a "Recommended" icon and link you can follow to read more about this classification. it is not Free Software (GPL compatible) and the developer seems to also sell a pro version of it, but other than that i would not worry if the other option under consideration was installing adobe flash.
[21:20] <jayjo> i've got 'hot corners' enabled in ubuntu 19.10 ... is there a way to exclude minimized/hidden windows in the hot corner expansion? i'll hide a few windows but they still show on the desktop high-level view
[21:26] <k1tsun3> for whatever reason my time on an ubuntu vm is incorrect
[21:27] <k1tsun3> i tried running sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com but it says the ntp socket is in use
[21:31] <NewToLubuntu> alik regarding VMs is that like using WineHQ to emulate windows?
[21:31] <NewToLubuntu> I've heard about this but haven't tried it yet. I am worried about how many resources it might use though as my comp is slow and locks up easily
[21:33] <NewToLubuntu> it looks trustworthy so I installed it tomreyn
[21:34] <NewToLubuntu> in trying to run "Some operations required by Video DownloadHelper cannot be performed from within the browser. 	In order to be able to still do the job, the add-on relies on an external application that is  	called transparently. We call it the Companion Application. "
[21:34] <NewToLubuntu> I need to select either a deb or tarz at https://www.downloadhelper.net/install-coapp?browser=firefox
[21:41] <shibboleth> why does not ubuntu allow for simple https:// in sources.list?
[21:41] <alik> NewToLubuntu: a VM (virtual machine) is like emulating the whole computer, so you can install any OS on it and it will be completely isolated from your host OS. You can search for some VirtualBox examples.
[21:41] <jeremy31> shibboleth: wrong place to ask, find some devs
[21:41] <shibboleth> in...?
[21:42] <alik> shibboleth: https://whydoesaptnotusehttps.com/
[21:42] <shibboleth> yeah, repos can still very well do it
[21:42] <shibboleth> if requested
[21:42] <shibboleth> there have been issues with apt. mitm=install arb package, code exec
[21:43] <shibboleth> -hardened?
[21:43] <shibboleth> really?
[21:59] <NewToLubuntu> I'm wondering about something like https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/native_hls_playback/ except I'm trying to find a "Recommended" version
[22:00] <NewToLubuntu> a flash-free HLS player called TheoPlayer is also mentioned at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1071132
[22:07] <recon_dsk> NewToLubuntu: videodownloadhelper not do the business? Dont think i've ever tried to use it on a flash site.
[22:08] <cybercrypto> Hi there, is the new experimental zfs feature, allowing zfs on root + cryptfs (like lvm over crypto) ?
[22:10] <cybercrypto> I know that using Luks (very common nowadays) we can have lvm structure on top of luks. I am wondering if it is possible to have it based on zfs (instead of ext4, currently)
[22:40] <Astreae> Hello, I could do with a bit of help and I was directed here.
[22:41] <Bashing-om> !ask | Astreae
[22:43] <Astreae> Thanks for the info. I'm trying to automount a partition so my steam drive can use it. I edited my fstab so it will automount, but steam says it doesn't have exec permissions even though it should. Here's the entry in fstab: UUID=abc142b3-0905-4fc8-9c12-8d957f6f52d6 /media/astreae/Linux\040Games ext4 errors=remount-ro,auto,exec,rw,user 0 0
[22:47] <oerheks> how did you install steam?
[22:47] <Astreae> Through terminal.
[22:47] <oerheks> the snap version has this confinement, not looking outisde its tree
[22:47] <Astreae> It's worked when I manually mounted, but when I tried to do it automatically, steam doesn't like it.
[22:50] <oerheks> maybe it contains errors, have you tried a fsck ?
[22:51] <NewToLubuntu> recon_dsk actually I think I figured out how TheStreamDetector works
[22:51] <NewToLubuntu> this lets me just open the videos or download them
[22:57] <NewToLubuntu> the wonky thing is it accumulates a number of links as you load pages with streams
[22:57] <NewToLubuntu> but left-clicking the add-on icon actually clears them from the cache
[22:57] <NewToLubuntu> that's why I kept getting 0 results
[22:57] <NewToLubuntu> you actually have to right-click the icon and hover over "The Stream Detector" to see those links
[22:58] <NewToLubuntu> in my case there was 2 streams actually, master.m3u8 was 669 bites and rendition.m3u8 was 1.1KiB
[22:59] <NewToLubuntu> it seemed very small. when I double click it opens with the purple-icon mpv Media Player
[23:00] <NewToLubuntu> a kilobyte for 1 whole minute of decent vidya...
[23:00] <NewToLubuntu> my File Manager is calling the file type an HTTP File Streaming Playlist
[23:00] <NewToLubuntu> so I think it probably works like a URL
[23:00] <NewToLubuntu> but it solves the problem: it opens outside of Firefox and allows me to maximize
[23:02] <pjstirling> hi, I updated my system and now I get a purple screen on boot, I can ssh in though
[23:06] <tomreyn> pjstirling: updated, or upgraded? which ubuntu version is it running now?
[23:09] <pjstirling> I moved to 19.10
[23:09] <tomreyn> pjstirling: so you upgraded from ubuntu 19.04 to ubuntu 19.10?
[23:10] <pjstirling> yes
[23:10] <tomreyn> which graphics card / chipset is installed?
[23:10] <pjstirling> it's a virtualbox vm
[23:12] <tomreyn> which virtualbox graphics driver are you using, how much vram is assigned, are guest extensions installed, is it booting in bios mode (default for virtualbox) or uefi mode?
[23:13] <tomreyn> and is 3D acceleration enabled for this VM in virtualbox?
[23:14] <tomreyn> i assume ubuntu is the standard gnome-shell desktop (with gdm as login manager)?
[23:14] <pjstirling> I'm not sure which is running, I install xubuntu but had problems in the past with login managers
[23:17] <pjstirling> I killed the guest additions, 3d acceleration isn't enabled, 128mb graphics memory, VboxSVGA
[23:20] <tomreyn> so if you'll install guest additions this may make things work already. alternatively, assuming you're using gdm3 as a login manager (default on ubuntu, not sure about xubuntu), this initialized using wayland by default, which can result in what you're seeing, since virtualbox doesn't really support wayland yet.
[23:20] <tomreyn> ps auxw | grep dm      should hint on which login manager is in use
[23:21] <tomreyn> or just     cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[23:22] <tomreyn> if it's gdm3, you should edit /etc/gdm3/custom.conf and uncomment (remove the leading hash before) "WaylandEnable=false"
[23:23] <tomreyn> also note that the preferred virtualbox driver for linux guests is VMSVGA (if available)
[23:24] <pjstirling> ok
[23:26] <pjstirling> aha, switching to vmsvga and turning on 3d acceleration seem to have done the trick
[23:27] <pjstirling> thanks for the help
[23:27] <tomreyn> you're welcome