[00:21] <phunyguy> what's the supported way to add exclusions for apparmor?
[00:33] <tomreyn> phunyguy: /etc/apparmor.d/local/README
[01:25] <Mcl0vin> I am running Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS 4.15.0-64-generic why when i do apt-get install linux-image-extra-$(uname -r) i get "E: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-4.15.0-64-generic"
[01:30] <Bashing-om> Mcl0vin: Name change to "linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-64-generic" . See what I have installed: https://termbin.com/ukij .
[02:25] <knokno> hi there all-could anybody help me i have an iphone-id like to import the pictures on the iphone to a folder with shotwell, in the past i just opened shotwell or plugged in the phone gave trust permissions and the pic import did its thing. While on 19.10 this isnt working as in the past any suggestions (am currently downloading 18.04.3 LTS hoping it will work
[02:26] <knokno> also when i go to file within shotwell i cant select import from folder as iphone is only showing a documents folder
[02:27] <knokno> im unable to browse up the tree from documents (documents iphone) as nothing is there (tried from terminal and cd ..
[03:37] <sn00p> hello, I just installed the latest ubuntu 18.* something i installed chronium and i've been experiencing some freezing of my  system anyway how I can find out what it is?
[04:13] <cybercrypto> Hi there, is the new experimental zfs feature, allowing zfs on root + cryptfs (like lvm over crypto) ?
[04:13] <cybercrypto> I know that using Luks (very common nowadays) we can have lvm structure on top of luks. I am wondering if it is possible to have it based on zfs (instead of ext4, currently)
[04:24] <pragmaticenigma> cybercrypto, seeing as zfs was only recently added to Ubuntu as an option, I'm guessing that all the extra features may take some time before they're available. If you're looking for a stable system, I would encourage you to consider using more common file systems as there is a greater chance of someone being able to help you.
[04:30] <phunyguy> tomreyn: thanks, I ended up finding it right after I asked.  ☺
[04:31] <tomreyn> :)
[05:41] <Nagerst> How do i disable ESM if i do not have a subscription?
[05:46] <Nagerst> oh, i found the problem. The sneaky file was in sources.list.d
[06:13] <shachaf> Is disk encryption with dual boot practical yet? When I tried to get it working a couple of years ago it was a big mess.
[06:16] <tomreyn> shachaf: it's certainly possible. personally i consider multi-boot to be a mess, maybe a bit less so with uefi.
[06:27] <shachaf> Multi-boot has worked fine for decades. You set up a partition and you boot into it.
[07:30] <slimjimflim> hi just restarted 16.04.4 and my audio stopped working. alsa says levels are good. volume is up on multiple websites including youtube but nothing. can't upgrade/update rn for unrelated reasons. any ideas?
[07:33] <slimjimflim> nevermind. fixed it with alsamixer
[08:23] <sloppyjoe> i have a overscan issue on my resolution. The auto resolution is 1920x1080i but sadly with 30hz, the tv cant handle higher hz, if i lower the resolution to 1280x720 i get 60hz which is fine, though i get overscan issue and i cant fix this on tje tv. Its too old, from 2008 or so. I am connected to the tv over HDMI
[09:28] <renn0xtk9>  rm -rf ./build/figures
[09:28] <renn0xtk9> rm: cannot remove './build/figures': Directory not empty
[09:28] <renn0xtk9> anybody understands that?
[09:28] <renn0xtk9> oksay sory never mind
[10:11] <enrio> is there any alternative to adobe premiere pro on ubuntu?
[10:11] <enrio> i'm looking for auto music extend feature
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> enrio: blender, shotcut, pitivi, openshot
[10:12] <enrio> shotcut and openshot doesnt have that feature.
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> flowblade
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> try a few out perhaps
[10:47] <ngm> Recently i installed 18.04 and the bluetooth audio skips 4-5 sec of audio. Previously on 16.04 it used to out of sync audio. I came across threads suggesting to disable coexist attribute for wifi dirvers. But that was for iwlwifi and lspci shows iam uisng rtwpci/ r8822be. So not sure how to go about adding the coexists disable config for this.
[10:48] <enrio> lotuspsychje, almost none gives that feature
[10:51] <mystic> tor browser wnt start.. please advis
[10:51] <mystic> advise
[10:55] <enrio> contact #tor
[10:59] <mystic> im asking in here as im runing ubuntu.
[11:00] <mystic> if u cant help me be quiet, someone else will.  'contact tor'   .. how sweet
[12:08] <tmroland> im trying to install ubuntu 19 10 on imac 2013 but my magic mouse and kb dont work at all
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> tmroland: let me give you an existing bug to try, holdon
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> tmroland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed-hwe/+bug/1822770
[12:10] <tmroland> its magic mosue 1 i beleive. still applies?
[12:10] <tmroland> so i should try another distro if i expect them to work by default at install time ?
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> tmroland: this bug applys the magic mouse 2, i didnt test 1 myself
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> tmroland: and no, we dont reccomend another Os as we try to focus on solving issues on ubuntu here
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> tmroland: did you doublecheck: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/AppleMagicMouse
[12:16] <tmroland> problem is i dont have another mouse to od that
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> yeah you will need another mouse if it doesnt work by default tmroland
[12:17] <tmroland> yea
[12:25] <__ijv__> Hello! Any ideas how to get touchpad working on Ubuntu 19.4? Touchpad buttons seems to work just fine and by enabling/disabling touchpad I can set buttons to work/not-work. So is the touchpad hardware broken?
[12:28] <__ijv__> xinput lists Synaptics Touchpad so I guess the driver works just fine?
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> __ijv__: could be an acpi issue too, what brand is your laptop?
[12:29] <__ijv__> It's Lenovo g 50-70. Pretty old machine :)
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> __ijv__: have you tryed to update bios to latest?
[12:30] <__ijv__> Nope. Maybe I'll try it.
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate | __ijv__
[12:31] <__ijv__> Thanks! I'll try that and get back to the issue if it doesn't help.
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> __ijv__: see also the fwupd method, some computer brands will offer bios/firmware updates there
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> __ijv__: feel free to share your dmesg aswell in a pastebin
[12:33] <jeremy31> __ijv__: Is there a little button above the touchpad to enable/disable?
[13:31] <circle> I'm having an issue. I just installed Ubuntu, but it's playing sound through my monitor. The only device I can select in the output devices section of the sound settings is "HDMI Audio" which is my monitor.
[13:32] <circle> It won't show any other possible output device. I use the onboard sound on my motherboard which is realtek.
[13:32] <circle> AC982.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:44] <leden> circle, run 'alsamixer' in terminal and F6 select sound card or install 'pavucontrol' and check configuration
[13:45] <circle> leden, the soundcard is in alsamixer and it's listed above the hdmi audio
[13:47] <circle> realtek ac892, it shows up as the default device in alsamixer
[13:47] <circle> it's just not selectable in the ubuntu sound settings menu
[13:48] <leden> circle, then select it in alsamixer and see it will pick up
[13:49] <circle> leden, what do you mean? the display port HDMI audio thing isn't even listed in alsamixer, whereas that's what the sound is actually playing through and the only option in the sound settings
[13:51] <circle> i can open alsamixer and mess with all the levels but it doesn't change the sound, which is coming out of my monitor.
[13:51] <circle> and there's not even a listing in alsamixer for the displayport sound
[13:51] <leden> circle, check F5 could be just mute your internal speakers
[13:54] <circle> leden, nothing is muted
[13:55] <ioria> circle, may sound silly, but try to reconnect the hdmi cable
[13:56] <circle> ioria, just did that
[13:56] <circle> no luck, sound still playing out of the monitor
[13:56] <leden> circle, can you install pavucontrol
[13:57] <circle> leden, already installed
[13:57] <circle> it only shows one possible output device
[13:57] <circle> which is this hdmi / displaport device
[13:59] <leden> circle, check configuration profile
[13:59] <circle> leden, where do i do that?
[14:01] <leden> circle, check on right side you got > press with mouse botton that it will slide to configuration
[14:01] <circle> leden, ah, i see what you mean
[14:02] <circle> there doesn't seem to be any other options here
[14:03] <circle> well, nothing that would suggest i could set my motherboard as the output device anyway
[14:04] <circle> a notice a bunch of "dummy audio" listings
[14:04] <circle> https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/06/fix-no-sound-dummy-output-issue-in.html
[14:04] <circle> i might try this
[14:04] <circle> ". You need to add options snd-hda-intel model=generic at the end of the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file"
[14:04] <circle> will report how it goes
[14:10] <tommy``> i've a problem with gnome-language-selector i presume.. some menu of my gnome have the language changed
[14:12] <circle> It didn't work.
[14:13] <circle> How is it possible that Ubuntu isn't recognising my motherboard as an output option?
[14:13] <circle> It's not a rare motherboard.
[14:13] <circle> Maybe I need to install third party drivers.
[14:27] <ruicruz> morning. I got ths error while installing a package. I install most of the missing libs but this ones I can't install via apt-get. any idea on how to solve this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3qVd7WF9QK/
[14:29] <circle> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS this page is saying there's .deb files available but when I go to look there's only .tar.gz packages
[14:58] <cybercrypto>    //TimeToStruct(TimeLocal(),horario_atual);
[14:59] <kostkon> cybercrypto, wrong paste?
[15:00] <cybercrypto> kostkon: Yeap, sorry about that.
[15:01] <doug16k> circle, ignore the "failed to build" ones
[15:01] <doug16k> under Builds look for a green checkmark
[15:02] <doug16k> circle, for example, oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms - 0.201806070316~ubuntu17.10.1 has a deb file
[15:04] <circle> doug16k, can you find a package for ubuntu 19.04?
[15:05] <doug16k> nope. they broke the build
[15:06] <doug16k> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/432173583/buildlog_ubuntu-disco-amd64.oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms_0.201907080246~ubuntu19.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz   ->   error: too many arguments to function ‘acomp->ops->put_power’
[15:07] <doug16k> it won't compile
[15:07] <doug16k> that plus a few other errors
[15:10] <grim210> hi all: straight-forward question: When I try to switch to a virtual TTY, there's nothing there.  So I've got GDM, and then when I do Ctrl+Alt+F2, I'm greeted a black screen
[15:10] <grim210> I'm accustomed to seeing a tty there I can login to
[15:10] <grim210> I've got 19.10, UEFI install, if that matters
[15:10] <grim210> intel graphics
[15:11] <doug16k> grim210, did you try F3 or F4 etc?
[15:11] <grim210> yes
[15:11] <grim210> they're all just black except for the GDM screen
[15:11] <grim210> single blinking cursor in the top-left
[15:12] <doug16k> for me F3 thru F6 are all working text consoles with a login prompt. F7 does what you described
[15:12] <grim210> now that i'm logged in i've got one that's running my gnome session, one running gdm, and the rest are black with the blinking cursor
[15:12] <grim210> yes, i'm aware of what's expected behavior
[15:12] <grim210> do i file a bug?
[15:12] <grim210> or am i an idiot?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !tty
[15:13] <grim210> super helpful
[15:14] <grim210> read a thing online about adding nomodeset to the cmdline via /etc/default/grub, but I don't think (?) that would hav eanything to do with it?  As I don't care about the resolution of the terminal, I just want one
[15:15] <doug16k> nomodeset is usually the workaround for failure to boot at all with endless black screen
[15:15] <SecurityIntel> Hi all, I need to make my swap partition bigger (its 1Gb it needs to be 32Gb). I want to be able to enable Hibernate... Does anyone have reference to read (My partition are LVM)
[15:16] <grim210> yeah, i typically have to do that with closed source graphics. since i'm using intel, i didn't think that would do much for me
[15:18] <Wulf> if people were just a bit more patient...
[15:18] <Wulf> SecurityIntel: welcome back.
[15:18] <Wulf> SecurityIntel: got some free space in your LVM?
[15:18] <SecurityIntel> Wulf, closed the wrong window :P
[15:18] <SecurityIntel> Wulf, 450Gib
[15:18] <doug16k> grim210, I uncommented GRUB_TERMINAL=console in my /etc/default/grub - no idea whether that will fix it for you though
[15:19] <grim210> i'll give that a shot. I just thought that only worked on biosboot, but that's an easy thing to try
[15:19] <Wulf> SecurityIntel: lvextend on your swap logic volume
[15:19] <doug16k> grim210, I thought so too
[15:19] <grim210> welp, going down for reboot. brb
[15:19] <Wulf> SecurityIntel: and then I'm not sure. If in doubt use swapoff, mkswap, swapon.
[15:27] <SecurityIntel> Wulf, I dont have free space (I need to resize my install partition first right)^
[15:42] <grim210> no luck on commenting out GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[15:42] <grim210> actually wouldn't boot after that change
[15:43] <grim210> i nearly chrooted in and regenerated to fix it, but re-installing would be just as fast
[15:43] <grim210> but, i picked full installation this time, and now I can get to a terminal on Ctrl-Alt-F{3,4,5,6}
[15:43] <grim210> so i'm not sure if there was something wrong with the install last time, or if there's a package in full installation that's not in minimal that gives you virtual ttys
[15:45] <akk> Oh, interesting, someone else having trouble with virtual ttys. Ubuntu seems really weird and inconsistent about them.
[15:46] <grim210> i was going to file a bug, but running ubuntu-bug is weird. i can't actually type up a bug report
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> grim210: before filing bugs we reccomend to ask your ubuntu issues here first
[15:47] <grim210> okay, so i did
[15:47] <grim210> it was recommended that i comment out GRUB_TERMINAL=console and regen my grub.cfg
[15:47] <grim210> system wouldn't boot
[15:47] <grim210> so i reinstalled
[15:47] <grim210> now i have virtual terminals
[15:47] <akk> I found ubuntu-bug confusing because it doesn't tell you that it's going to pop something up in a browser tab
[15:47] <grim210> i picked full installation instead of minimal, which is what i'm guessing the problem may have been? because the last install was fresh as well
[15:48] <akk> so I thought it had just refused to file a bug until later when I went to the workspace with the browser and discovered an ubuntu-bug tab there.
[15:51] <doug16k> grim210, really? wow
[15:51] <doug16k> didn't expect that!
[15:52] <grim210> lol, there's a clear warning that said "grub-pc only" which is clearly meant for bios systems. mine is uefi, so i was definitely expecting disaster
[15:52] <grim210> it was a fresh install anyway, so i wasn't concerned
[15:52] <doug16k> mine is uefi booting and works fine with that uncommented
[15:52] <grim210> hmm, odd
[15:53] <grim210> welp, vttys are there
[15:53] <grim210> still unclear whether i should file a bug report or not. getting a lot of mixed signals around the channel
[15:54] <doug16k> I'd prefer the scrolling to be 261x more efficient, given a choice
[15:54] <haasn> wat. I removed the nouveau.ko, blacklisted nouveau in modprobe.d, rebuild initramfs and rebooted and my system is *still* loading nouveau
[15:54] <haasn> Where the heck is it even getting the driver from if the nouveau.ko is deleted?
[15:54] <grim210> i had a similar problem on centos recently
[15:55] <grim210> do you have a blacklist.conf? how are you blacklisting?
[15:55] <grim210> i've had mixed results modifying the kernel cmdline
[15:55] <haasn> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-nouveau-nvidia-driver-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[15:55] <haasn> I'll try the kernel command line as well I guess
[15:56] <grim210> seems straight forward
[15:56] <haasn> if it helps, this is a live USB (unetbootin) and not a "normal" system
[15:56] <haasn> maybe it's loading the driver off the RO filesystem before it even gets to the RW overlay..
[15:56] <grim210> i've had luck doing "nouveau.modeset=0" appended
[15:56] <grim210> very possible
[15:57] <haasn> I also tried unloading the module at runtime but it complains about it being in use
[15:57] <haasn> if I try unbinding the device from the driver it just kills the terminal with spam in dmesg about kernel null pointers
[15:57] <grim210> yeah, and trying to unbind it while in use will probably bork the system as well. is the RO system a squashfs?
[15:57] <grim210> i don't know much about unetbootin
[15:58] <grim210> if so, you could try opening that up and removing nouveau. but that's going to be a pain
[15:59] <doug16k> haasn, you say you deleted the kernel module. from which directory? you must have removed it from the wrong kernel's lib directory
[16:00] <grim210> good point. verify that /proc/version matches the modules directory you removed nouveau from
[16:00] <haasn> There is only one modules directory. this is a freshly installed liveUSB system
[16:00] <doug16k> haasn, find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'nouveau.ko'
[16:01] <haasn> But I suspect the solution is the fact that "deleting" it from /lib/modules on the booted system is only deleting it from /cow/work and not the squashfs image it's booting from
[16:01] <jeremy31> You cannot delete anything on Live
[16:01] <doug16k> oh, live boot. forgot that bit
[16:02] <haasn> I'll try figuring out a way to input a kernel command line, I guess. A problem for another day
[16:02] <doug16k> haasn, modprobe.blacklist=nouveau   IIRC
[16:03] <grim210> i'll let doug16k handle this. i'm just a drive-by today. thanks for your help everyone!
[16:03] <haasn> The problem is I'm not sitting in front of the PC and cannot physically input a command line, all I can do is reboot and ssh back in :p
[16:03] <haasn> and updating grub config doesn't work when the grub config is in a RO squashfs..
[16:03] <haasn> A problem for another day, as I said
[16:03] <haasn> Thanks for the help
[16:04] <AppAraat> hello, I'm trying to run Raspbian (2019-09-26-raspbian-buster-lite.zip) in a VM on a Ubuntu 16.04 host but as of now I've followed 4 guides but none of them seem to work. The QEMU window appears but it's just black and nothing is happening on it. Here's the terminal output: https://paste.debian.net/1113390/
[16:04] <AppAraat> these are some of the guides I tried following: https://www.unixmen.com/emulating-raspbian-using-qemu/ - https://blog.agchapman.com/using-qemu-to-emulate-a-raspberry-pi/ - https://www.linux-tips-and-tricks.de/en/raspberry/310-how-to-emulate-raspberry-pi-on-kvm-2/
[16:06] <akk> AppAraat: I got it working following a tutorial at this URL, except it doesn't seem to be loading for me right now: https://wiki.evergreencoin.org/wiki/Solar_Staker/RPI_Image/Creation
[16:07] <akk> and ugh, I didn't copy down all the details because they were all there, so I hope the site comes back or there's an archive.org backup of it.
[16:08] <xjkx> Using Snaps. A software I want has both beta and edge versions. Which one is newer/has more features ? I know beta is testing, maybe with some last features, but what is edge ?
[16:08] <akk> (sadly, no, archive.org doesn't have it)
[16:11] <AppAraat> sadness :(
[16:11] <AppAraat> I too learned the hard way to archive all links that go in my notes
[16:11] <coz_> xjkx, I believe in order  stable, candidate, beta, then edge
[16:12] <coz_> xjkx, let me get a link
[16:12] <xjkx> Alright
[16:13] <coz_> xjkx, not sure this is about "snap" specificallt, however,   https://ubuntu.com/blog/controlling-snap-releases-with-channels-tracks-and-branches-part-1
[16:13] <coz_> I guess it is about snap
[16:14] <xjkx> coz_:  thanks a lot :)
[16:14] <coz_> xjkx,  no problem, ")
[16:15] <dps> good morning everyone
[16:16] <akk> AppAraat: The interesting thing is that the connection is timing out, not giving a 404 or unknown host. So maybe there's hope for the link reappearing.
[16:16] <AppAraat> crossing all of fingers
[16:16] <akk> (if so, I will definitely make a copy this time! I had tried other tutorials before but this one had parts they missed, only I can't remember the details)
[16:25] <mystic> how to use ubuntu ?
[16:26] <dps> lol
[16:26] <dps> do you have a more specific question, maybe one that involves a specific thing youre trying to do?
[16:27] <mystic> using it
[16:27] <mystic> its installed so when i turn on my computer it comes on
[16:27] <AppAraat> akk: I want to try and set an infinite timeout, and then ring a bell if there's a response, I wonder if it's possible by setting --connect-timeout to 0
[16:28] <akk> AppAraat: Or you could do a while true; do wget ...
[16:28] <mystic> can it run aby finereader ?
[16:29] <AppAraat> I guess
[16:29] <akk> I'm not entirely sure I trust an existing connection with an infinite timeout, I think retries might be more likely to work.
[16:30] <AppAraat> makes sense
[16:30] <mystic> its ok, gve it a go
[17:07] <Ilgaz> Interesting that I can't find my message to linux-acpi mailing list on the web, did it happen to anyone else?
[17:09] <Ilgaz> It should be here: https://marc.info/?l=linux-acpi&r=1&b=201911&w=2
[17:32] <mati> Hi, I have a folder full of files, which names look like this: Video #1 - some text, Video #2 - different text and so on. The last number is #250, but there are only 237 files, which means some of them are missing. What's the quickest way (either a script or command) to find which files with which number are missing?
[17:37] <cybercrypto> mati: what do you mean by "missing?"
[17:39] <cybercrypto> mati: from inside the directory you mention, what is the output for the command:  "ls -lrta | wc"
[17:41] <cybercrypto> mati: and what do you see when you list only the files starting with # (like this: ls -la ^# )
[17:44] <mati> cybercrypto: it's 237 3954 27594. As to the other command: the files don't start with # but with Video #
[17:44] <alik> mati: if I understand you correctly, and you want to find what (numbered) videos are missing, you can use something like this: for i in {1..250} ; do grep -rq "Video $i" . || echo "$i missing" ; done
[17:45] <alik> Or rather "Video #$i" if the name actually includes hash
[17:45] <cybercrypto> mati: so list them like: ls -l "Video*" | wc -l
[17:46] <mati> alik: The issue is that they aren't numbered at the beginning. They have the word "Video" at the beginning and after that there's #1, #2 etc.
[17:46] <alik> mati: this is fine. in the example I gave the grep looks for 'Video ...'
[17:48] <sirriffsalothp> Gparted is insanely slow in 19.04... any ideas?
[17:49] <cybercrypto> mati: have you tried the loop suggested?
[17:56] <mati> cybercrypto: I'm getting some errors. Give me 1sec
[17:58] <mati> can the "#" interfere with the script?
[17:58] <alik> Actually it was wrong
[17:58] <alik> for i in {1..250} ; do find . -name "Video \#$i *" | grep -q 'Video' || echo "Video #$i is missing" ; done
[17:58] <alik> This should work
[17:58] <cybercrypto> brb
[18:02] <BluesKaj> !touch
[18:04] <mati> alik: This kind of worked, but the output is all the files in the directory and in between them are the missing videos. Is it possible to clear all the lines without the word "missing" or something like that?
[18:06] <alik> mati: just append '| grep missing' (without quotes) to the command
[18:09] <tommy``> how can i check which package are missin in my ubuntu?
[18:11] <mati> alik: it still outputs everything. The entire command looks like this: for i in {1..250} ;
[18:11] <mati> do find . -name "The \Occult \#$i *" | grep -1 'The \Occult' || echo "Video #$i is missing" | grep missing ;
[18:11] <tommy``> apt gave me this (appstreamcli:3780): GLib-CRITICAL **: 19:11:14.070: g_atomic_ref_count_dec: assertion 'g_atomic_int_get (arc) > 0' failed
[18:11] <alik> add -q to grep
[18:15] <mati> alik: It worked! One more question. I see you used two pipes " || ". Does it differ from a single | or is it just for clarity?
[18:17] <alik> mati: || is not a pipe, its an "or". It combines two commands like "foo || bar" and if foo returns non-zero exit code it executes bar; if foo returns 0 it doesn't execute bar. In your example, if grep is able to find "Video ..." it returns zero and thus echo is not executed. If it doesn't - it returns non-zero and then echo '... missing' is
[18:17] <alik> executed.
[18:18] <`mist> hey guys, i started a script with & and now i can't find it to shut it down =D
[18:18] <`mist> tried runnings "jobs" and ps auxwf to find it and fg
[18:18] <`mist> it's nowhere to be found but i can see that it's still generating output
[18:18] <`mist> as in, it's downloading a file and putting on disk
[18:20] <alik> `mist: when you started it with & it should've printed PID.
[18:21] <`mist> it doesn't, but i've found it and killed it now. Thanks anyway
[18:21] <mati> alik: ok, I get it now. What does -1 do in grep -1? Does it mean
[18:21] <`mist> it appeared as just "bash" in the ps output
[18:21] <mati> one per line?
[18:21] <alik> mati: I didn't tell you to add -l to grep. As for what it means: man grep :)
[18:23] <mati> alik: Right, I copied something from a different line somehow. Thanks for help, I really appreciate that!
[18:27] <FaTaL_G> thanks for the help tjsimmons oerheks jeremy31 & doug16k with the wifi using broadcom, I can report I get better speeds on the brcm+kernel 5.0.0.32 than I did previously, and the speeds are ~ 10MBps faster on the local network than they are even with my Netgear R7000 or R8500.
[18:29] <FaTaL_G> oops
[18:33] <tommy``> i can't understand why i've language selected italian for my gnome3 but windows and other menu are in english
[18:35] <tommy``> Region and language are in italian too
[18:35] <tommy``> locales are in italian
[18:45] <pecorade> hi
[18:53] <tommy``> can't find a solution
[19:08] <Apachez> are the dvdimages for latest LTS only updated when a new revision is released like LTS 18.04.4 or whatever the last digit is today?
[19:15] <mattfly> How do i disable DST time ?
[19:15] <mattfly> This no longer exists on my country
[19:16] <sonOfRa> That's generally up to the timezone-data package (not sure if it's called exactly that on ubuntu)
[19:16] <sonOfRa> I don't know if that gets updated in ubuntu after a freeze, but I'd assume yes?
[19:16] <Apachez> or change the timezone to a UTC one
[19:16] <sonOfRa> Yeah, package tzdata, the most recent revision seems to be 2019c
[19:17] <Apachez> like you can select either UTC+1 or you can select (for example) Europe/Stockholm
[19:19] <sonOfRa> mattfly: so you should check if your tzdata package is the most recent version, and if it is not, run an apt update and then apt upgrade to install the most recent version. That might already fix the problem.
[19:19] <jayjo> does anyone know a way to exclude minimized/hidden windows from 'hot corners' on ubuntu 19.10 ?
[19:21] <NewToLubuntu> while I'm online at the moment, I'm wondering if anyone could help troubleshoot why I seem to frequently lose the ability the detect and connect to modem-routers in the surrounding area
[19:22] <NewToLubuntu> it's really strange, like right now it seems fine and I get 3/4 bars for the one we use downstairs... but I can also detect 5 other ones (I assume from neighbors) although they are at 1 bar each
[19:22] <NewToLubuntu> but when this weirdness happens, suddenly my computer detects nothing at all
[19:22] <NewToLubuntu> so I know it can't just be a problem with my modem/router especially since others seem to be able to continue to use it just fine
[19:23] <NewToLubuntu> sometimes turning the computer off and restarting it an hour or so later seems to fix it, other times not
[19:23] <NewToLubuntu> just seems to randomly happen in the middle of casual browsing
[19:24] <NewToLubuntu> this is why I'm wondering if it's possibly a software issue
[19:27] <tommy``> sonOfRa: you know how to fix language issue on gnome?
[19:27] <sonOfRa> no.
[19:37] <tommy``> !seen
[19:57] <ubuking> hello!!!!!
[19:59] <tomreyn> hi there
[20:15] <BarrelAgedHam> I just got ubuntu 18.04 installed on my windows 10 PC. when I first got the shell open, it prompted me to enter a username, then when i tried to enter my password, my keyboard was not working... i opened and closed the program, and it now reads root@'my_computer_name': ~ $. I have tried to reset it with no luck. and I tried adding another user with
[20:15] <BarrelAgedHam> the adduser command but the same thing happens, my keyboard will not work when trying to enter the password. Has anyone here experienced this before?
[20:17] <ikonia> how do you know your keyboard is not working ?
[20:17] <ikonia> (or what makes you think it's not)
[20:18] <BarrelAgedHam> I think it is not working because when i tried to type my password into the user shell, nothing shows up. Does it have an auto hide password or something?
[20:18] <ikonia> yes
[20:18] <BarrelAgedHam> hot damn
[20:19] <ikonia> imagine how bad security would be if it actually put your password on the screen
[20:19] <BarrelAgedHam> thats a good point. Thank you for your help
[20:19] <ikonia> not a problem
[20:21] <BarrelAgedHam> and tips on what i can use ubuntu for as a noob? I have been hitting the books on Python for a little while, and I am taking a friends advice to get familiar with linux, Right now its  a little intimidating and I am having trouble envisioning what i can use it for when i get my feet wet
[20:21] <ikonia> BarrelAgedHam: the best advice I can offer is just try to use it as your desktop,
[20:21] <ikonia> you'll hit problems, overcoming those problems will educate you and give you a wider range of problems to look into and learn from
[20:22] <ikonia> and it will grow
[20:24] <BarrelAgedHam> alright cool. I was trying to install ubuntu on my raspberry pi 4. but i found the main guides on google to be kind of confusing becuase of my lack of experience. Can anyone recommend a ubuntu on raspberry pi 4 for dummies?
[20:24] <mystic> hwo to take a snapshot and copy and paste it?
[20:24] <mystic> why is it so hard ot do anything on linux for god sake
[20:24] <ikonia> mystic: it's not
[20:25] <mystic> just want to to a wuic ksnapshot and upload it
[20:25] <mystic> need a degree to even do that?
[20:25] <ikonia> no
[20:25] <ikonia> BarrelAgedHam: what part is confusing, talk to people and we can help
[20:25] <mystic> so?
[20:25] <mystic> if its easy do share?
[20:26] <mystic> \the obvious prntscreen method doesnt work
[20:26] <ikonia> sorry - I don't want to engage with you, while you're just rangint
[20:26] <ikonia> ranting
[20:26] <mystic> thanks twat
[20:26] <ikonia> mystic: don't use that language please, and don't call people names like that please
[20:26] <mystic> shove it up your ass
[20:26] <cybercrypto> mystic: are you trying to get a screenshot?
[20:26] <mystic> no shit
[20:27] <cybercrypto> :-) do not feed the trolls...
[20:27] <ikonia> mystic: please stop
[20:28] <mystic> shut up nerd
[20:28] <mystic> could ahve just told me isntead of leaving me to deal with this nerdy crap system
[20:31] <BarrelAgedHam> ikonia: i really appreciate everyone in this community's willingness to help. I think the first thing that through me off was in the raspberry pi's terminal window, i used the sudo apt-get update command, and it only got Get : 1-4
[20:32] <ikonia> BarrelAgedHam: update just updates the software catalogue for you
[20:32] <ikonia> BarrelAgedHam: what did you expect to see happen ?
[20:33] <BarrelAgedHam> ikonia: i think i just am getting confused becuase what i am seeing on my screen doesnt exactly match the video I am watching. I am most likely being impatient
[20:33] <BarrelAgedHam> i might do some tinkering for a bit more and come back if i am still stuck
[20:33] <ikonia> BarrelAgedHam: so personally - I don't watch a video, as you're just watching someone else type, you're not doing anything
[20:34] <ikonia> grab an introduction / document and read it, so you don't have to cut and paste commands blindly
[20:34] <ikonia> (that's just my opinion though)
[20:34] <BarrelAgedHam> ikonia: okay that makes sense
[20:34] <seednode> Good afternoon
[20:34] <seednode> Did I hear someone mention raspis
[20:35] <dps> i love me some rasp pie ;)
[20:35] <BarrelAgedHam> seenode: yes i am the noob who mentioned them
[20:35] <seednode> Everybody's a noob about something
[20:35] <dps> i actually REALLY love the orange pies though
[20:35] <seednode> It's not a very useful label
[20:35] <dps> ^^^^^^
[20:35] <seednode> I personally prefer chocolate pudding and french silk pies, as for the food. For the single board computers, I like raspi because they're available off the shelf everywhere, well documented, and tend to function
[20:36] <seednode> So I have many of them in use for various things
[20:36] <dps> im a tad bit experienced when it comes to using the rasp pi. did you still need some hekp @barrel?
[20:36] <BarrelAgedHam> seenode: what do you use them for? I have an idea for a project but i think i will need way mroe experience before i will be able to actually do it
[20:37] <dps> help*
[20:37] <BarrelAgedHam> dps: Not particularly, I bought it thinking it would be fun to tool around on, but now that i have it im kind of at a loss to what i can actually use it for
[20:37] <akk> BarrelAgedHam: Mostly they're for playing around with. :) But I have one that's been reporting temperature and pressure from an upstairs bedroom for about a year now as part of a weather system.
[20:37] <seednode> I use them for a few things; temperature monitors, with sensors hooked up to GPIO pins; Wireguard VPN clients and occasionally servers as an interim solution until I set up something more powerful (Though they do that job just fine), remote desktop "Thin clients" for a few clients who didn't want to buy full computers
[20:38] <dps> its most def a tool to be used, thats for sure. especially once you understand how to use the gpio pins, from within your operating system.
[20:39] <dps> i primarily use diet pi on my pi zero's ( i have nofull sized ones :( )
[20:39] <BarrelAgedHam> I have these phillips hue lights at home, I was thinking it could be cool if i could use my to read an HDMI inputs colors from like my ps4 or tv or something, and then have my raspi instruct my hue lights to match the TV colors somehow
[20:39] <dps> have you heard of home assistant?
[20:39] <seednode> I've mostly used dietpi as well, which in retrospect isn't quite on-topic for this channel. In my defense I thought I had the -offtopic branch of the channel open :<
[20:40] <BarrelAgedHam> i know phillips sells something that does that now for like $260 but i could save the money and try to make a hobby out of it
[20:40] <BarrelAgedHam> yeah sorry i totally brought this chat off topic
[20:40] <akk> BarrelAgedHam: You could definitely do that, with a pi camera.
[20:40] <dps> im thinking that you could still control the, via your gpio pins, from within ubuntu, iirc
[20:41] <dps> them*
[20:41] <BarrelAgedHam> akk: meaning i would ahve to have a pi camera pointed at my screen to read the color data?
[20:41] <BarrelAgedHam> dps: what is a gpio pin?
[20:42] <dps> its the pins on the side of your board, stands for general purpose input/output pins
[20:42] <seednode> General purpose input/output, it's a user-configurable signalling pin
[20:42] <BarrelAgedHam> got it, I have my fan plugged into a couple of those little pinners
[20:43] <akk> BarrelAgedHam: Right, though if it could talk to whatever computer is running the screen, that would be another way.
[20:43] <akk> But that's probably hard with a commercial TV.
[20:45] <tommy``> anyone could help me resolve the issue i have with gnome language?
[20:47] <BarrelAgedHam> last question for you fine chaps: I got ubuntu installed on my windows 10 PC, it prompted me for a unix username and password. I did not realize that the characters of the password not showing up on the screen was a security feature. so i quit out and now i am at a root user. can i use the adduser command and call it a day? or do you guys think
[20:47] <BarrelAgedHam> quitting out during the setup messed up the intializion?
[20:51] <ikonia> why do you need the adduser command ?
[20:53] <BarrelAgedHam> ikonia: quit out during the initial setup in the shell. I thought i was supposed to get a username and password set up because the shell originally prompted me, and the person in the guide i was following had done it
[20:54] <kostkon> BarrelAgedHam, is it a server install?
[20:54] <ikonia> BarrelAgedHam: so my advice to you would be do a clean install again a.) it's more learninging now that you know more b.) you don't know if it was the last step of the install, what else did it not setup if you quit out
[20:54] <kostkon> Ubuntu server*
[20:55] <BarrelAgedHam> ikonia: okay, so to do that do i only have to uninstall ubuntu? or is linux now installed on my computer and i also have to uninstall that too?
[20:55] <ikonia> BarrelAgedHam: no, just install it again and it will install over the top
[20:55] <BarrelAgedHam> kostkon: i dont think i even got that far
[20:58] <BarrelAgedHam> ikonia: alright i will give that a shot. Thank you again for all your help. I would never been able to get started on my programming journey without the help of people like you on the internet.
[20:58] <ikonia> BarrelAgedHam: if in doubt, just ask
[21:54] <rsully> I have ubuntu server 18.04 installed and I'm trying to setup a user systemd service to run on boot. The service is in ~/.config/systemd/user/ and it is enabled, I enabled lingering for my user, but on boot it isn't started - any tips?
[21:55] <rsully> whoops let me repost to ubuntu-server room
[21:57] <oerheks> make a proper systemd service file , that will autostart on boot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[21:58] <oerheks> tons of howto's https://www.shellhacks.com/systemd-service-file-example/ ---  https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-create-systemd-service-unit-in-linux
[22:01] <MxMax> hi, can someone point me to the official doc on how to build an ubuntu package?
[22:02] <MxMax> googling around, it looks like the build systems are too fragmented, a few guides use bzr, others apt, and build commands are usually different, builddep, etc.
[22:02] <MxMax> I want to download source from repository, make a few changes and build deb package
[22:04] <CarlFK> MxMax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb  (not at all official, kinda hacky)
[22:05] <oerheks> !build
[22:06] <MxMax> thanks CarlFK , let me try that. I've tried a few other instructions without luck :). http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html  and https://askubuntu.com/questions/81870/how-to-download-modify-build-and-install-a-debian-source-package
[22:09] <tomreyn> what didn't seem to work there?
[22:10] <MxMax> oerheks, I did come across that webpage, but that's for software using autotools / configure script, not building deb packages the Ubuntu way.
[22:11] <MxMax> tomreyn, issues with debuild executable, might be related to this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devscripts/+bug/1764799
[22:14] <oerheks>  debuild -- clean as a workaround, #3
[22:24] <BlueProtoman> I just moved a hard drive to a new laptop.  The Linux partition (Ubuntu 19.10) doesn't recognize the audio hardware, but the Windows 8.1 partition does.  I'm using a CyberpowerPC Fangbook EVO HX7-137.  Any thoughts?
[22:29] <oerheks> sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop # might do the trick
[22:29] <litheum> mpg123 as a regular user (who is in the "audio" group) appears to be playing a file without any complaints, but there's no sound. if i execute sudo mpg123, i hear sound. what gives? lubuntu 18.04.3
[22:30] <BlueProtoman> oerheks: Me?
[23:12] <cgi> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4pGfTMFDZS/ - can anyone look at my apt-update output and tell me how to fix this?
[23:18] <litheum> cgi: what's this packages.ros.org repository you're trying to use? evidently their key is not available from the keyserver?
[23:19] <litheum> cgi: https://www.google.com/search?q=NO_PUBKEY+F42ED6FBAB17C654 has a couple links specific to this vendor, maybe someone in one of those has a good solution for you
[23:46] <cgi> litheum, that worked, thanks!