=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
[08:34] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfburn 0.6.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfburn-0-6-0-released-tp56418.html (by Rene Kjellerup)
[09:15] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Workaround menu handling errors in pyxdg (LP: #1833863) @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=7b9ad09a7408895b76028dc110c7c7373aeabfa0 (by Sean Davis)
[09:47] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Move live config files to debian/live; Remove lock menu option in live since locking is disabled (LP... @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=a2b3677aae988b469c7ad6a7eaad25590d5b2bd9 (by Sean Davis)
[10:01] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Remove light-locker autostart entry since we no longer ship it @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=8d4d61392f385d01176b3d4162d77d80c89bfe8c (by Sean Davis)
[10:14] <Unit193> ..Won't that cause co-install with x-d-s issues?
[10:16] <bluesabre> Which one?
[10:18] <Unit193> whisker.
[10:20] <bluesabre> ah, dang, you're probably right about that
[10:23] <bluesabre> Guess I could install that into skel instead
[10:23] <bluesabre> hacky but less conflicty, right? :)
[11:15] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Install whiskermenu override to /etc/skel/.config/xfce4/panel/ @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=3501c1211a7ad760b2fd1646b01160ab126a9a7c (by Sean Davis)
[11:25] <bluesabre> Unit193: thoughts on Thunar's breadcrumb pathbar by default?
[11:29] <Unit193> Dunno, guess I should look at it.
[11:31] <bluesabre> I'm also surprised that thunar-shares-plugin isn't packaged... was it at one time?
[11:38] <Unit193> I pushed it to extras.
[11:39] <bluesabre> aha
[11:39] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Version bump to 20.04, unreleased @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=21c71281f4646bd7c9336f748a297d8005fc03a0 (by Sean Davis)
[11:39] <Unit193> So, sort of but not in any real repos.
[11:39] <bluesabre> right
[16:01] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-screenshooter 1.9.7 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-screenshooter-1-9-7-released-tp56420.html (by Andre Miranda)
[18:16] <bluesabre> It's cool to see some fresh translations rolling into https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/+translations
[18:17] <bluesabre> Unit193: do you have any BSD familiarity? If so, do you know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1565330 is still applicable?
[18:17] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1565330 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "ubuntuBSD support" [Medium,Incomplete]
[18:17] <Unit193> Is UbuntuBSD still a thing...?
[18:17] <bluesabre> No ideaaaaaa
[18:20] <Unit193> I don't like changing it from all to any. :/
[18:22] <Unit193> It's dead, Jim.
[18:22] <bluesabre> Cool
[18:23] <Unit193> > SF.net project hasn't been updated since '16, same for Twitter, nxdomain on the site, IRC lists 16.04 BETA1 as latest release.
[18:23] <bluesabre> Handy
[18:23] <bluesabre> Another bug to close out :)
[18:24] <bluesabre> thanks Unit193 
[18:35] <Unit193> Does this mean I should stop slacking? :3
[18:36] <bluesabre> Nah, you're fine. I ask a question, you give the right answer, what more can I ask for? :D
[18:36] <Unit193> As I see it: Not a lot of uploads to do since we're *not* going to pull in 4.15.
[18:38] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfburn 0.6.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfburn-0-6-1-released-tp56432.html (by Rene Kjellerup)
[19:13] <bluesabre> Unit193: yup, definitely fair. I'll have to start pushing out some 4.14.x releases instead ;)
[19:24] <Unit193> Ahaha. :D
[19:48] <keremet> hello. can anybody give me a link to article how to build xubuntu installation image?
[22:03] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, no 4.15 plz :)
[22:22] <brainwash> bluesabre: I'm a bit confused.. you removed the screen lock entry from whiskermenu?
[22:22] <brainwash> for the live session
[22:23] <bluesabre> brainwash: yes, screen lock is disabled in the live session, so the button should not be visible
[22:23] <brainwash> I was under the impression that xfce4-screensaver does not ask for the user name, so unlocking the live session would only require the user to press a button
[22:24] <brainwash> with light-locker the user had to provide the user name
[22:24] <brainwash> "xubuntu"
[22:25] <bluesabre> Right, but it will still present a password prompt, and from the lock screen you could click "switch user" to go back to the greeter
[22:26] <bluesabre> Figure it's better to not show confusing things as our first impression
[22:26] <bluesabre> (but also happy to discuss)
[22:26] <brainwash> my concern was that hiding it would be confusing too
[22:27] <brainwash> sometimes users are asked to test screenlocking with the live session
[22:27] <brainwash> to see if it a bug with their normal installation
[22:27] <brainwash> or, people just want to check how the lock screen looks like
[22:29] <bluesabre> So maybe, we instead enable locking and show the button, but disable lock on suspend and timeout to avoid surprise locks?
[22:29] <brainwash> but those are not surprise locks
[22:30] <brainwash> that is how the system works
[22:30] <brainwash> when installed
[22:30] <brainwash> it says "Try Xubuntu" when you boot the ISO
[22:30] <brainwash> :D
[22:31] <bluesabre> True, but asking for a password when a user has never set one is ehhhhhh
[22:31] <bluesabre> :)
[22:32] <brainwash> uhm
[22:32] <brainwash> I just tested it
[22:32] <brainwash> it unlocks the screen without any input
[22:33] <brainwash> black, brief unlock dialog, desktop
[22:33] <bluesabre> interesting
[22:33] <brainwash> because it is a passwordless account?
[22:34] <bluesabre> Yeah, I think there might be something in the code for that scenario
[22:34] <bluesabre> Or, it crashed
[22:35] <brainwash> works as expected after setting a password
[22:35] <bluesabre> Neat
[22:36] <brainwash> my idea: no password -> show unlock dialog with input field hidden
[22:40] <bluesabre> Mind creating a bug report for that one on bugzilla? Not going to get to it today, but I think it's a good idea
[22:41] <brainwash> okay
[22:48] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-time-out-plugin 1.1.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-time-out-plugin-1-1-0-released-tp56437.html (by Andre Miranda)