didrocksgood morning07:18
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marcustomlinsonmorning didrocks and seb12808:17
didrockshey marcustomlinson08:17
seb128hey marcustomlinson, didrocks, had a good w.e?08:27
didrockshey seb128, good week-end, yourself?08:28
marcustomlinsonseb128: yeah was alright, rainy, mostly relaxing, you?08:30
seb128w.e was good, we went for 3 days in the North of France to visit my gf's family, was mostly relaxing (& rainy as well)08:30
didrocksyeah, rain is all over the place apparently08:31
seb128hum, so I did a few 19.10 installs in the past week, and keyboard selection seems buggy, dunno if others hit that before?09:02
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers09:02
seb128I select french/french alternative, typing in the entry behind the selection it's azerty09:02
seb128but then on the user account page it's back to qwerty09:03
didrocksdidn't notice that and I have made multiple french/gaelic installations tests on the final isos09:03
seb128which I didn't notice first time because my username doesn't hit keys that are differents, but the password did and I couldn't log in after install (until I though about trying to type it the qwerty way)09:03
didrocksboth live/ubiquity-only09:03
didrocksbut I may have been in the same case than you09:04
seb128did you enter an username/password with a [azm]? :)09:04
didrockshey Laney09:04
seb128hey Laney, how are you? had a good w.e?09:04
didrocksyeah, I'm doing random users for iso testing, but I probably didn't hit those09:04
seb128I tend to do 'ubuntu/ubuntu' :p09:04
didrocksor u/u even :p09:04
didrocksif it's something I'm going to trash09:04
seb128lut oSoMoN, en forme ? t'as passé un bon w.e ?09:05
oSoMoNsalut seb128, très bon week-end de trois jours, et toi?09:05
oSoMoNyo Laney09:05
seb128bon w.e ralngé également :)09:05
seb128didrocks, bug #1847307 seems similar09:06
ubot5bug 1847307 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install in english with italian keyboard - keyboard not set during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184730709:06
didrockssalut oSoMoN09:07
seb128(I had selected french as language as well in my case though)09:07
oSoMoNsalut diddledan09:07
oSoMoNsalut didrocks09:07
didrocksseb128: yeah, seems we didn't spot that. I'll think the future to test future typing and not only the finale installation09:07
seb128bug 184730709:07
ubot5bug 1847307 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install in english with italian keyboard - keyboard not set during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184730709:07
seb128grrr copy on linux09:07
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1826567 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Does not apply keyboard layout during installation" [Medium,New]09:07
didrocksseb128: was it on isolinux selection + lang or only in "maybe-ubiquity" or in both cases?09:08
marcustomlinsonmorning oSoMoN Laney09:09
seb128I tried only in 'install' mode on an uefi system (so no isolinux but the text-only scren which is grub like, no language selection)09:09
didrocksok, so maybe-ubiquity for language selection09:09
oSoMoNgood morning marcustomlinson09:09
seb128yeah, maybe :p I never remember how the differents mode are called09:10
seb128I don't end up on the screen which let you pick live/install09:10
didrocksmaybe is the screen with install|live (+ lang selection if not selected in isolinux)09:10
seb128but directly on ubiquity in install mode (since I pick install on the menu, don't wait for timeout boot)09:10
didrocksthen install -> only-ubiquity and live -> ubiquity09:10
didrocksthat's what I remember now :)09:10
Laneyhi didrocks seb128 oSoMoN marcustomlinson09:11
didrocksso directly on only-ubiquity, let me try maybe-ubiquity09:11
didrocksI have jibel's patch to tests anyway, so let's call that a test day :p09:11
didrocksso maybe-ubiquity, french selected -> only-ubiquity works for keyboard layout09:13
Laneywas a nice weekend, family visiting :>09:13
seb128didrocks, could also depends on the mode or be timing...09:17
Laneyusing an azerty key sounds like a good step for the test case to have09:17
didrocksseb128: yeah, I also tried maybe-ubiquity, english selection -> only-ubiquity, selecting azerty -> works in the user creation panel09:17
seb128thx for testing09:18
seb128I've rls tagged bug #1847307 since there are some reports about the issue and I can trigger it every time on that XPS09:18
ubot5bug 1847307 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install in english with italian keyboard - keyboard not set during install" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184730709:18
seb128will try to get some debug logs&co09:18
didrocksif it's timing related, this is /o\09:18
didrocksat least, good that there is a machine which can reproduce it09:19
seb128hum, the ubiquity log on that bug has09:19
seb128log-output -t ubiquity setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout it -option  -option lv3:ralt_switch09:19
seb128Your console font configuration will be updated the next time your system09:19
seb128boots. If you want to update it now, run 'setupcon' from a virtual console.09:19
seb128looks like the correct command is called, so yeah, needs debugging09:20
seb128thx for testing/replying :)09:21
didrocksyw ;)09:21
didrocksI'll try in live mode (but still VM)09:21
didrockslive works here (but still non uefi, VM)09:34
WimpressMorning desktoppers o/09:36
oSoMoNgood morning Wimpress09:36
seb128hey Wimpress, how are you? had a good w.e?09:37
didrockshey Wimpress09:38
WimpressI'd like to pass on some sincere thanks from a community of users I spoke over the weekend. They are very impressed with 19.10 and all the hard work the desktoppers have put into it 🙂09:38
didrocksnice! :)09:38
WimpressI took part in a live stream with popey and ~25 users in the early hours of Sunday morning.09:39
WimpressEach sharing the feedback and experiences of using Ubuntu 19.10.09:40
seb128nice to read09:41
WimpressWe did also capture some common issues. Most are already known but one new one regarding LVFS persistently prompting to update Logitech Universal receiver firmware. I'll look into that.09:43
marcustomlinsonmorning Wimpress \o09:53
seb128hey Gargoyle10:34
xnoxbluesabre:  why would i, if only python2 things use it today and all of them are obsolete.... python-* will simply be dropped https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/libappindicator/drop-python-appindicator/+merge/33560611:03
bluesabrexnox: indeed, became aware of all the behind-the-scenes activity after reading that bug reporting and pinging you :)11:05
LaneyTrevinho: thx for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/909/ :>11:07
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 909 in mutter "x11-display: Don't unset the X11 focused window after setting one" [Opened]11:07
TrevinhoLaney: ah, since I saw a comment on https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1365811:07
gitbotsystemd issue 13658 in systemd "No way to not kill other processes in unit when main process crashes" [Rfe 🎁, Needs-Discussion 🤔, Pid1, Open]11:07
TrevinhoI was quickly talkin with florian about moving the shell app process run to systemd and he's all ok, but as we said we should do it in glib11:08
LaneyI'll reply at some point11:08
Laneywould rather make gnome-session smaller than bigger ;-)11:08
Trevinhoby that you meant you'd prefer to have systemd fixed more than having the shell to load things under the session unit?11:11
diddledanello oSoMoN :-p11:16
* diddledan needs to get a bot in here to intercept tab completions for oSoMoN :-p11:16
LaneyTrevinho: for the KillMode, rather implement that in systemd than gnome-session11:16
Laneyfor the transient stuff, no firm view11:16
LaneyGLib seems sensible, but it's going to be slightly interesting to think about how to implement that there11:17
oSoMoNhey diddledan :) [tab completion worked as my fingers intended, woot!]11:17
GunnarHjHello seb128, there is a duplicate upload of glib2.0 to the eoan queue. Would be good if the older of them could be deleted, so it's not built by mistake. You have access to do that, don't you?12:48
seb128hey GunnarHj, yes I do, let me reject it12:49
GunnarHjseb128: Thanks!12:49
seb128done & np12:49
GunnarHjseb128: Another thing: Another thing: I don't think it's a good idea to assign translation bugs to language packs, which are not dealt with directly and nobody (except for Brian M.) sees such bugs. I changed it on bug #1851221 to the ubuntu-translations project, which is catch all for translations bugs, and assigned the Icelandic Translators team.13:11
ubot5bug 1851221 in Ubuntu Translations "localized language (Icelandic) incomplete" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185122113:11
seb128GunnarHj, the translator-packages team is subscribed to langpacks and those emails end up on https://lists.launchpad.net/translators-packages/ but maybe translators don't look there? anywhy, ubuntu-translations wfm I will do that next time13:18
GunnarHjseb128: Good. (The Translators Packages "team" consists of Brian.)13:20
seb128GunnarHj, the team yes, but the list is public, click on the url I just gave you13:21
seb128I just glanced through the recent emails personally :)13:21
GunnarHjseb128: Ah, now I see. You make me unsure, but I'd suspect that few translators teams watch that list. Assigning respective team directly has proved to work well, at least for the active translators teams.13:24
seb128GunnarHj, right, in fact I was expecting that individual team would be subscribed to the langpacks for this locale but seems that might not be the case13:25
seb128your way works, it does make easier to review the translations issue in any case :)13:25
seb128so let's use that workflow, thx for pointing it out13:26
GunnarHjseb128: Deal.13:26
seb128(brb, going back to my desk)13:28
tintouHi desktoppers, would it be possible to have an update to Epiphany in Bionic (there is 3.28.5 in updates but 3.28.6 is out) ?13:52
seb128tintou, hey, we should probably SRU the update yes, do you have a specific bug/issue with the current version?13:59
tintouseb128: upstream seem to have many reports about crashes that are supposed to be fixed there https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/epiphany/issues/982#note_63812214:00
gitbotGNOME issue 982 in epiphany "Crashes on Launch (Segmentation Fault)" [1. Crash, 2. Needs Information, Closed]14:01
tintouThere is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/1845396 though14:01
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1845396 in epiphany-browser (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Update epiphany-broswer to 3.28.6 in Bionic" [Undecided,New]14:01
seb128tintou, thx14:01
Laneyseb128: feel like syncing pango1.0?14:40
seb128Laney, sure14:40
seb128is there anything reason it was not moved to unstable in Debian? or just lack of confidence on the update/way to properly test?14:41
Laneysecond one14:41
Laneywe could do it and see what happens there, or sync and see what happens here and then do it14:42
seb128let's sync and then14:43
seb128unsure we will get much feedback from the new serie yet14:43
seb128though we got a bunch of report about GNOME freezing so some people are using it14:43
Laneykeeping people on their toes :>14:44
Laneythere's a .7, will upload that too14:45
hellsworthgood morning everyone14:59
hellsworthalso diddledan thanks for the pointer to your gimp snap size reduction changes. i'll def look at making the same chagnes in glimpse15:00
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth15:04
hellsworthhi oSoMoN , hope you had a nice weekend :)15:05
oSoMoNyeah, I had a very good long week-end (Friday was a holiday here). How about you?15:05
hellsworthoh that's right. hope the holiday was nice :)15:06
hellsworthyep had a great weekend. my baby started to crawl so we have been quickly baby proofing everything and keeping up with her :)15:06
oSoMoNmy baby actually started walking on Saturday, everyone at home was super excited about it :)15:08
hellsworthvery exciting!!15:09
diddledannon stop now till they leave home :-p15:11
marcustomlinsonoSoMoN: cool!15:31
marcustomlinsondiddledan: you may be interested: https://github.com/snapcrafters/gimp/pull/83#issuecomment-54940785015:32
gitbotsnapcrafters issue (Pull request) 83 in gimp "Reduce snap size" [Closed]15:32
marcustomlinsonI see it's already merged, but something to keep in mind maybe :)15:33
diddledanit'ld be really nice if snapcraft could do this for us15:33
marcustomlinsondiddledan: I believe sergiusens has a plan for this15:34
diddledanyeah, I think you're right15:34
marcustomlinsonlast I showed him this, that was his response15:34
diddledanI see you're also compiling the glib schemas15:37
marcustomlinsonnot all of that yaml was written by me, I've still got some things to clean up15:44
Laneysome update™ fixed scrolling in irssi for me16:41
Laneynow I can read what happened overnight again16:41
sergiusensdiddledan, marcustomlinson: we already do not list missing files if they are part of content, but we will not automatically strip a user-requested stage-packages or any other artifact provided16:48
marcustomlinsonsergiusens: fair enough16:49
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infinityLaney: Still around?19:05
infinityseb128: Or you?19:06
oSoMoNgood night all20:13
seb128infinity, yes20:21
infinityseb128: Oh hai.  Can you subscribe desktop-packages to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvisvgm ?20:25
infinityseb128: It was split out from texlive-bin, which you're already subscribed to, so a no-brainer, IMO.20:25
seb128infinity, done20:31
infinityseb128: Ta.20:54

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