[07:18] <didrocks> good morning
[08:17] <marcustomlinson> morning didrocks and seb128
[08:17] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[08:27] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, didrocks, had a good w.e?
[08:28] <didrocks> hey seb128, good week-end, yourself?
[08:30] <marcustomlinson> seb128: yeah was alright, rainy, mostly relaxing, you?
[08:30] <seb128> w.e was good, we went for 3 days in the North of France to visit my gf's family, was mostly relaxing (& rainy as well)
[08:31] <didrocks> yeah, rain is all over the place apparently
[09:02] <seb128> hum, so I did a few 19.10 installs in the past week, and keyboard selection seems buggy, dunno if others hit that before?
[09:02] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[09:02] <seb128> I select french/french alternative, typing in the entry behind the selection it's azerty
[09:03] <seb128> but then on the user account page it's back to qwerty
[09:03] <Laney> yo
[09:03] <didrocks> didn't notice that and I have made multiple french/gaelic installations tests on the final isos
[09:03] <seb128> which I didn't notice first time because my username doesn't hit keys that are differents, but the password did and I couldn't log in after install (until I though about trying to type it the qwerty way)
[09:03] <didrocks> both live/ubiquity-only
[09:04] <didrocks> but I may have been in the same case than you
[09:04] <seb128> did you enter an username/password with a [azm]? :)
[09:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:04] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you? had a good w.e?
[09:04] <didrocks> yeah, I'm doing random users for iso testing, but I probably didn't hit those
[09:04] <seb128> I tend to do 'ubuntu/ubuntu' :p
[09:04] <didrocks> or u/u even :p
[09:04] <didrocks> if it's something I'm going to trash
[09:05] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ? t'as passé un bon w.e ?
[09:05] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, très bon week-end de trois jours, et toi?
[09:05] <oSoMoN> yo Laney
[09:05] <seb128> bon w.e ralngé également :)
[09:06] <seb128> didrocks, bug #1847307 seems similar
[09:07] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[09:07] <seb128> (I had selected french as language as well in my case though)
[09:07] <oSoMoN> salut diddledan
[09:07] <oSoMoN> argh
[09:07] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[09:07] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, seems we didn't spot that. I'll think the future to test future typing and not only the finale installation
[09:07] <seb128> bug 1847307
[09:07] <seb128> grrr copy on linux
[09:07] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1826567
[09:08] <didrocks> seb128: was it on isolinux selection + lang or only in "maybe-ubiquity" or in both cases?
[09:09] <marcustomlinson> morning oSoMoN Laney
[09:09] <seb128> I tried only in 'install' mode on an uefi system (so no isolinux but the text-only scren which is grub like, no language selection)
[09:09] <didrocks> ok, so maybe-ubiquity for language selection
[09:09] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[09:10] <seb128> yeah, maybe :p I never remember how the differents mode are called
[09:10] <seb128> I don't end up on the screen which let you pick live/install
[09:10] <didrocks> maybe is the screen with install|live (+ lang selection if not selected in isolinux)
[09:10] <seb128> but directly on ubiquity in install mode (since I pick install on the menu, don't wait for timeout boot)
[09:10] <didrocks> then install -> only-ubiquity and live -> ubiquity
[09:10] <didrocks> that's what I remember now :)
[09:11] <didrocks> yeah
[09:11] <Laney> hi didrocks seb128 oSoMoN marcustomlinson
[09:11] <didrocks> so directly on only-ubiquity, let me try maybe-ubiquity
[09:11] <didrocks> I have jibel's patch to tests anyway, so let's call that a test day :p
[09:13] <didrocks> so maybe-ubiquity, french selected -> only-ubiquity works for keyboard layout
[09:13] <Laney> was a nice weekend, family visiting :>
[09:17] <seb128> didrocks, could also depends on the mode or be timing...
[09:17] <Laney> using an azerty key sounds like a good step for the test case to have
[09:17] <seb128> yeah
[09:17] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, I also tried maybe-ubiquity, english selection -> only-ubiquity, selecting azerty -> works in the user creation panel
[09:18] <seb128> thx for testing
[09:18] <seb128> I've rls tagged bug #1847307 since there are some reports about the issue and I can trigger it every time on that XPS
[09:18] <seb128> will try to get some debug logs&co
[09:18] <didrocks> if it's timing related, this is /o\
[09:19] <didrocks> at least, good that there is a machine which can reproduce it
[09:19] <seb128> hum, the ubiquity log on that bug has
[09:19] <seb128> log-output -t ubiquity setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout it -option  -option lv3:ralt_switch
[09:19] <seb128> Your console font configuration will be updated the next time your system
[09:19] <seb128> boots. If you want to update it now, run 'setupcon' from a virtual console.
[09:20] <seb128> looks like the correct command is called, so yeah, needs debugging
[09:21] <seb128> thx for testing/replying :)
[09:21] <didrocks> yw ;)
[09:21] <didrocks> I'll try in live mode (but still VM)
[09:34] <didrocks> live works here (but still non uefi, VM)
[09:36] <Wimpress> Morning desktoppers o/
[09:36] <oSoMoN> good morning Wimpress
[09:37] <seb128> hey Wimpress, how are you? had a good w.e?
[09:38] <didrocks> hey Wimpress
[09:38] <Wimpress> I'd like to pass on some sincere thanks from a community of users I spoke over the weekend. They are very impressed with 19.10 and all the hard work the desktoppers have put into it 🙂
[09:38] <didrocks> nice! :)
[09:39] <oSoMoN> :)
[09:39] <Wimpress> I took part in a live stream with popey and ~25 users in the early hours of Sunday morning.
[09:40] <Wimpress> Each sharing the feedback and experiences of using Ubuntu 19.10.
[09:41] <seb128> nice to read
[09:43] <Wimpress> We did also capture some common issues. Most are already known but one new one regarding LVFS persistently prompting to update Logitech Universal receiver firmware. I'll look into that.
[09:53] <marcustomlinson> morning Wimpress \o
[09:54] <Wimpress> Morning
[10:27] <Gargoyle> Hi.
[10:34] <seb128> hey Gargoyle
[11:03] <xnox> bluesabre:  why would i, if only python2 things use it today and all of them are obsolete.... python-* will simply be dropped https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/libappindicator/drop-python-appindicator/+merge/335606
[11:05] <bluesabre> xnox: indeed, became aware of all the behind-the-scenes activity after reading that bug reporting and pinging you :)
[11:07] <Laney> Trevinho: thx for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/909/ :>
[11:07] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 909 in mutter "x11-display: Don't unset the X11 focused window after setting one" [Opened]
[11:07] <Trevinho> :)
[11:07] <Trevinho> Laney: ah, since I saw a comment on https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/13658
[11:07] <gitbot> systemd issue 13658 in systemd "No way to not kill other processes in unit when main process crashes" [Rfe 🎁, Needs-Discussion 🤔, Pid1, Open]
[11:08] <Trevinho> I was quickly talkin with florian about moving the shell app process run to systemd and he's all ok, but as we said we should do it in glib
[11:08] <Laney> yeah
[11:08] <Laney> I'll reply at some point
[11:08] <Laney> would rather make gnome-session smaller than bigger ;-)
[11:11] <Trevinho> by that you meant you'd prefer to have systemd fixed more than having the shell to load things under the session unit?
[11:16] <diddledan> ello oSoMoN :-p
[11:16]  * diddledan needs to get a bot in here to intercept tab completions for oSoMoN :-p
[11:16] <Laney> Trevinho: for the KillMode, rather implement that in systemd than gnome-session
[11:16] <Laney> for the transient stuff, no firm view
[11:17] <Laney> GLib seems sensible, but it's going to be slightly interesting to think about how to implement that there
[11:17] <oSoMoN> hey diddledan :) [tab completion worked as my fingers intended, woot!]
[11:17] <diddledan> :-D
[12:48] <GunnarHj> Hello seb128, there is a duplicate upload of glib2.0 to the eoan queue. Would be good if the older of them could be deleted, so it's not built by mistake. You have access to do that, don't you?
[12:49] <seb128> hey GunnarHj, yes I do, let me reject it
[12:49] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks!
[12:49] <seb128> done & np
[13:11] <GunnarHj> seb128: Another thing: Another thing: I don't think it's a good idea to assign translation bugs to language packs, which are not dealt with directly and nobody (except for Brian M.) sees such bugs. I changed it on bug #1851221 to the ubuntu-translations project, which is catch all for translations bugs, and assigned the Icelandic Translators team.
[13:18] <seb128> GunnarHj, the translator-packages team is subscribed to langpacks and those emails end up on https://lists.launchpad.net/translators-packages/ but maybe translators don't look there? anywhy, ubuntu-translations wfm I will do that next time
[13:20] <GunnarHj> seb128: Good. (The Translators Packages "team" consists of Brian.)
[13:21] <seb128> GunnarHj, the team yes, but the list is public, click on the url I just gave you
[13:21] <seb128> I just glanced through the recent emails personally :)
[13:24] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ah, now I see. You make me unsure, but I'd suspect that few translators teams watch that list. Assigning respective team directly has proved to work well, at least for the active translators teams.
[13:25] <seb128> GunnarHj, right, in fact I was expecting that individual team would be subscribed to the langpacks for this locale but seems that might not be the case
[13:25] <seb128> your way works, it does make easier to review the translations issue in any case :)
[13:26] <seb128> so let's use that workflow, thx for pointing it out
[13:26] <GunnarHj> seb128: Deal.
[13:26] <seb128> :-)
[13:28] <seb128> (brb, going back to my desk)
[13:52] <tintou> Hi desktoppers, would it be possible to have an update to Epiphany in Bionic (there is 3.28.5 in updates but 3.28.6 is out) ?
[13:59] <seb128> tintou, hey, we should probably SRU the update yes, do you have a specific bug/issue with the current version?
[14:00] <tintou> seb128: upstream seem to have many reports about crashes that are supposed to be fixed there https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/epiphany/issues/982#note_638122
[14:01] <gitbot> GNOME issue 982 in epiphany "Crashes on Launch (Segmentation Fault)" [1. Crash, 2. Needs Information, Closed]
[14:01] <tintou> There is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/1845396 though
[14:01] <seb128> tintou, thx
[14:40] <Laney> seb128: feel like syncing pango1.0?
[14:40] <seb128> Laney, sure
[14:41] <Laney> scary!
[14:41] <seb128> is there anything reason it was not moved to unstable in Debian? or just lack of confidence on the update/way to properly test?
[14:41] <Laney> second one
[14:42] <Laney> we could do it and see what happens there, or sync and see what happens here and then do it
[14:43] <seb128> let's sync and then
[14:43] <seb128> unsure we will get much feedback from the new serie yet
[14:43] <seb128> though we got a bunch of report about GNOME freezing so some people are using it
[14:44] <Laney> keeping people on their toes :>
[14:45] <Laney> there's a .7, will upload that too
[14:46] <seb128> thx
[14:59] <hellsworth> good morning everyone
[15:00] <hellsworth> also diddledan thanks for the pointer to your gimp snap size reduction changes. i'll def look at making the same chagnes in glimpse
[15:04] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[15:05] <hellsworth> hi oSoMoN , hope you had a nice weekend :)
[15:05] <oSoMoN> yeah, I had a very good long week-end (Friday was a holiday here). How about you?
[15:06] <hellsworth> oh that's right. hope the holiday was nice :)
[15:06] <hellsworth> yep had a great weekend. my baby started to crawl so we have been quickly baby proofing everything and keeping up with her :)
[15:07] <oSoMoN> :)
[15:08] <oSoMoN> my baby actually started walking on Saturday, everyone at home was super excited about it :)
[15:09] <hellsworth> very exciting!!
[15:11] <diddledan> non stop now till they leave home :-p
[15:31] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: cool!
[15:32] <marcustomlinson> diddledan: you may be interested: https://github.com/snapcrafters/gimp/pull/83#issuecomment-549407850
[15:32] <gitbot> snapcrafters issue (Pull request) 83 in gimp "Reduce snap size" [Closed]
[15:33] <marcustomlinson> I see it's already merged, but something to keep in mind maybe :)
[15:33] <diddledan> interesting
[15:33] <diddledan> it'ld be really nice if snapcraft could do this for us
[15:34] <marcustomlinson> diddledan: I believe sergiusens has a plan for this
[15:34] <diddledan> yeah, I think you're right
[15:34] <marcustomlinson> last I showed him this, that was his response
[15:37] <diddledan> I see you're also compiling the glib schemas
[15:44] <marcustomlinson> not all of that yaml was written by me, I've still got some things to clean up
[16:41] <Laney> some update™ fixed scrolling in irssi for me
[16:41] <Laney> now I can read what happened overnight again
[16:48] <sergiusens> diddledan, marcustomlinson: we already do not list missing files if they are part of content, but we will not automatically strip a user-requested stage-packages or any other artifact provided
[16:49] <marcustomlinson> sergiusens: fair enough
[19:05] <infinity> Laney: Still around?
[19:06] <infinity> seb128: Or you?
[20:13] <oSoMoN> good night all
[20:21] <seb128> infinity, yes
[20:25] <infinity> seb128: Oh hai.  Can you subscribe desktop-packages to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvisvgm ?
[20:25] <infinity> seb128: It was split out from texlive-bin, which you're already subscribed to, so a no-brainer, IMO.
[20:31] <seb128> infinity, done
[20:54] <infinity> seb128: Ta.