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smartpersonHi folks, I just upgraded from 18.10 to 19.10 and I feel pretty lost. I can't seem to find a setting anywhere that controls how my desktop's display will actually go to sleep. Like, not just an all-black image, but true display sleep. Can't find any online docs for this either. Can someone point me in the right direction?03:07
Bashing-omsmartperson: Advise the channel what desktop you have.03:13
smartperson@Bashing-om, I have a self-built PC with X5700XT and RX580. I have displays hooked up to them via DisplayPort and HDMI.03:14
Bashing-omsmartperson: show ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP '. Perhaps there is one looking that has multi-monitor experience.03:17
smartpersonBashing-om: ubuntu-wayland ubuntu:GNOME03:18
Bashing-omsmartperson: I can not say about Wayland. If you change to the Xorg environmnet does the displays then sleep ?03:21
smartpersonI'll give it a shot.03:22
smartpersonBashing-om: it was a good try. For just a moment, the screens go into sleep. After that the displays turn back "on" and show an all-black screen. The desktop pointer is still visible on top. Also the entire desktop environment is now running dog slow. Only unusual thing is tracker-miner-fs is showing 100% cpu.03:33
Bashing-omsmartperson: Yukkie - beats me as to where now to look. Await here for one with greater experience to advise.03:35
smartpersonThanks! I'm going to give the machine a restart because who knows that might at least help with slowness/kill a stuck process.03:35
s\schizoidHey all, does this channel cover Ubuntu Studio as well, or is there a dedicated channel for it somewhere?03:45
s\schizoidScratch that, /list holds the answers XD03:46
k_szeI migrated from my main laptop to a temporary laptop by rsync'ing my home directory over. Now I can't use the "Online Accounts" in GNOME settings.04:03
k_szeAll of the accounts I had configured are now disconnected. And if I try to sign into Google again, for instance, it tells me "Sign in with Google temporarily disabled for this app" and "This app has not yet been verified by Google in order to use Google Sign in."04:05
plshelpohgoshhello! i really need help... i upgrade to 19.10 from disco dingo and now i can't boot into my full LUKS install... i get a kernel panic on boot saying "not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs"04:09
k_szeweird. It works for one out of my two Google accounts.04:18
coffeecowafter upgrading to 19.10 from disco dingo i can boot into the 5.0.0-32-generic but not 5.3.0-19-generic... i get a kernel panic error if i select the 5.3.x kern on boot about "not syncing: vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)"04:29
Regorwhich tool i can use to encrypt a application ? i use  tomb .  i want to encrypt weechat /mutt logs file..04:46
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arthur98765Anyone know how I can get Wickr Messenger to work on Ubuntu 18.04? It's not working05:12
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tomreynRegor: you don't encrypt an application, you use software which supports encrypted storage and / or make software stoe data on an encrypted file system (or an unencrypted file system that is on top of a non-filesystem level storage encryption layer)06:10
Regoryes..exactly what i meant..06:11
Regori want to encrypt logs-text files in mutt/weechat ...06:12
Regori love tomb but cant use it on logs.06:12
tomreynRegor: I don't recall much about tomb, but i think it was a good option when i last looked at it seom years ago. why can't you use it for logs?06:14
Regorit makes containers so i can put files....06:15
tomreynand log files are files06:15
Regorbut weechat would give errors with file location/path changed06:16
tomreynnot in case of a symbolic link, i would assume06:17
Regoryeah..i need to check again. i did it but it messed with logs ..06:18
tomreynyou could also create a luks encrypted storage yourself and then decrypt it either during boot or later when you need it from e.g. nautilus06:19
Regoryeah..i get..06:19
tomreynthere's also ext4 file system encryption. but it is somewhat new so i'm a bit hesitant to recommend it06:20
Regorok i see docs.. and would ask in weechat/mutt room too..06:21
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Regortomreyn: yeah i found weechat has native encryption which is simple with detailed docs .07:30
ryuoRegor: afaik that was mainly for passwords and other sensitive settings.07:30
ryuoRegor: not sure it applies to things like logs.07:30
ryuoblanket encryption is usually best done via a system like LUKS.07:32
ryuoRegor: yes, that's great for user specific secrets. not really a solution for encrypting logs.07:32
tomreynweechat 'secured data' seems to be for configuration data of weechat plugins and for credentials07:33
ryuoit's more like a solution used for encryption ssh keys07:33
tomreynnot for logs07:33
ryuoyes, you may want to employ something like LUKS or a FUSE based encryption scheme.07:33
Regorahhh.. now i see..!  /help secure07:34
Regori use tomb a lot ..i love it07:34
ryuojust note that these do mean your logs are readable by anyone with system access and sufficient privileges while weechat is running07:34
ryuoassuming no security flaws are used07:34
ryuoif you just want to keep other users from reading them07:35
ryuojust change the permissions.07:35
ryuoif they're not already set correctly07:35
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ibr2guys i have an issue with the GPG signatures08:15
mithodinHi. I'm running a virtual server on Ubuntu 18.04.3 and I'm having problems with processes not being able to spawn new threads (e.g. Apache can't create worker threads, the mail server cannot accept new logins, etc.)08:24
mithodinThe hoster claims they see nothing wrong with the hardware. ulimits look reasonable and resources are nowhere near the limits as far as I can tell.08:25
mithodinany ideas what might be causing trouble here?08:27
ryuomithodin: it points to an inability to fork().08:27
ryuomithodin: usually this is because resource limits have been hit (process limit)08:28
mithodinyes, but ulimit -u is 6298708:28
mithodinwhich is nowhere close to the number of threads currently running08:28
ryuothat doesn't mean the services are running with the same limits.08:28
ryuoeach user or context can have different limiters.08:29
mithodinhow do I check that?08:29
ryuonot really sure, but it might be revealed if you poke around in /proc08:29
ryuojust find the main processes' PID and explore08:30
mithodinso ? is the pid?08:30
ryuoi can't know your PID.08:30
ryuocheck the systemd service.08:30
mithodinI mean I put the PID where the ? is, yes? as in /proc/<pid>/limits08:31
mithodinnah, also at  62987, at least for apache08:32
ryuothen it's possible the kernel runs out of resources for fork.08:33
ryuohow much RAM are you given?08:33
mithodin4GB, with 2.9GB available currently.08:34
ryuook... that's probably not it.08:34
ryuoi'm out of ideas then. i just know that this means the kernel is refusing to allow fork or thread creation to create new processes.08:35
ryuowait... virtual?08:35
ryuois it a container?08:35
ryuoyou may be hitting a resource limiter by the host kernel then.08:35
mithodinyes, it's a virtual server. I think they use virtuozzo, but I'm not sure08:35
ryuoi can't be sure.08:36
ryuothough do you get this issue from bash?08:36
ryuoif it was a container limiter i would expect ssh to also be impacted.08:36
ryuobash prints errors if it can't fork processes.08:37
mithodinI haven't hit that, no08:37
ryuoso only certain services are impacted?08:37
ryuostrange. if it was a system wide glitch, i would expect login sessions to also notice it.08:38
mithodinoh.... I just found something. Systemd has a task limit of 60 for apache08:38
mithodingoddammit, systemd08:38
ryuoI see. I don't know much about systemd, but I thought it would show up in the proc stats.08:38
mithodinit doesn't, because that would be sane, and that's not the systemd way, apparently.08:39
ryuoso i guess i was right. it was a context specific limiter.08:40
mithodinNow I need to figure out how to change that.08:40
dan01Eh... I don't want to be a troll or something but.. is it just or Ubuntu didn't do ANYTHING significant since the fall of Unity/Mir/Ubuntu Phone except snaps?08:49
lotuspsychje!discuss | dan0108:49
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mithodinFixed it. If anyone reads this log looking for an answer: systemctl edit <service_name>, then add a [Service] section and put TasksMax=<Task limit you want>, then restart the service.08:58
mithodinThanks ryuo09:02
ibr2guy i have an issue with "sudp apt update", it's not updating due to signature invalidity09:08
JadedJHi, I'm connected to Wifi, but can't ping the gateway09:11
JadedJI'm running Ubuntu 18.04 Server09:11
tomreynJadedJ: did you experience this issue before?09:12
lotuspsychjeibr2: can you please pastebin the output of what you experience on apt? volunteers might be able to help you better09:13
tomreynJadedJ: is it a new installation then?09:13
tomreynJadedJ: which ubuntu 18.04 LTS server version exactly?    lsb_release -ds09:14
JadedJUbuntu 18.04.3 LTS09:14
tomreynJadedJ: hw is the wireless connection configured, using systemd-networkd or network manager?09:14
JadedJI'm using wpa_supplicant, dhclient09:15
tomreynJadedJ: and how do you configure networking?09:15
JadedJBy using dhclient?09:16
tomreyndo you do this manually after boot?09:16
JadedJNo, I have it automated09:16
JadedJI use this guide.09:17
tomreyninteresting, so you prefer using neither network manager nor systemd-networkd for configuraring networking for some reason09:19
JadedJWell I found that guide useful, so I followed it09:21
tomreynJadedJ: so you have configured the wpa_supplicant, started it, brought up the wireless interface, had it authenticate to the AP, ran dhclient and got an ip address?09:21
JadedJI can ping the gateway now, but I want to know why I couldn't before09:22
tomreynpersonally i would prefer using the frameworks ubuntu provides for managing the network connection, but you're obviously able to brew your own soup09:22
tomreyni will not be able to tell you so, maybe your system log will have hints on it.09:23
tomreynjournalctl -b09:24
tomreyni recommend you familiarise yourself with netplan, systemd-networkd, network manager, since it should make it easier to manage your network connectivity (and understand what failed if things go wrong)09:25
JadedJI have netplan setup for my wired connection09:26
tomreynthen it would seem logical to me to just add another configuration for wireless there, too09:27
JadedJI really hate the way ubuntu now has really long names for interfaces09:28
JadedJmy current interface is 16 characters long09:28
tomreynthis is not ubuntu specific, it's a result of freedesktop.org's 'predictable network interface names' specification, which many distros have assumed09:29
JadedJOk, I'll switch to netplan for my wifi interface as well09:29
JadedJDo I put the wifi interface in the same config file as the wired connection on netplan?09:30
tomreynJadedJ: yes09:31
tomreynin fact they should share the first three lines of the example i pointed to09:32
JadedJSo I will have to disable the wpa_supplicant service09:35
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notsoeverthanks for the awsome work, i am concerned now for the privacy and security issues.09:42
notsoeverwhat in the code the Amazon play in OS?09:43
notsoeverdidnt worked in my pc with debian but y DO, and simpler then expected09:46
tomreynnotsoever: i'm having some difficulties understanding your ubuntu support question. maybe this would hel:09:47
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.09:47
ubottuSecurity Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall, !server, and !usn09:48
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:48
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:48
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tomreyn!messagethebot | rana_ans09:49
ubotturana_ans: Please investigate me only with "/msg ubottu bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu search <pattern>"09:49
rana_anshow does this work? I need help!09:50
tomreynrana_ans: what do you need help with?09:50
rana_ansI have installed ubuntu in dual mode with windows but windows is on SSD and ubuntu is on HDD, I cannot access my windows now plus it doesnt show ssd anywhere when I check fdisk09:51
rana_ansI have gone through all the forums and it doesnt really solve my problem, I have Asus TUF FX505G09:51
notsoeverboot loader problem09:52
tomreynrana_ans: when you say you "cannot access [your] windows now", does thi mean you can no longer boot into windows? or that you cannot access its file systems from ubuntu?09:52
rana_ansI tried repairing it using boot-repair but still doesnt show09:52
rana_ansI cannot boot into windows, I can access files from ubuntu09:53
tomreynif you can access the files on the windows file systems form ubuntu then this means ubuntu did detect the ssd which the windows file sytems are stored on.09:54
notsoeveri dont have problems. its all in boxes. in strong hardware. all in top i trust. may i trust Y09:54
tomreynif you cannot boot into windows anymore this can have different reasons, the most common reason is probably that you're mixing uefi and bios booting09:55
tomreynrana_ans: ^09:55
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rana_ansyes that, probably it is because I dont understand anything about UEFI and BIOS09:55
rana_ansin Bios it shows something like TOSHIBA WINDOWS bla bla and I drag it to first position to priorities it but it saves, restarts and goes to grub menu and nothing, ubuntu boots09:56
tomreynrana_ans: the most important thing to understand for a dual-boot setup is that all operating systems should boot in the same mode for dual-boot to work most reliably.09:56
rana_anscould you explain it a little bit more? because I dont know how to do what you are saying, how do I set it same for every OS09:57
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI09:57
tomreynrana_ans: see what ubottu just said09:58
notsoeverrana_ans: why grub intead lilo?09:58
tomreyngrub is fine09:58
notsoevertomreyn: better?09:59
rana_ansI dont know @notsoever , I have not idea, I have used ubuntu in other laptop and there was only one thing to setup is to show grub and bring windows 10 on 1st, but when I installed it on this laptop its giving me problems that I have no idea of09:59
tomreynnotsoever: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EFIBootLoaders09:59
tomreynrana_ans: did you install windows yourself or was it pre-installed?10:01
rana_ansthe link that ubotto mentioned tells if I wanna install ubuntu and then choose the mode, but I already have ubuntu in my pc, I cannot boot into windows10:01
rana_ansit was pre-installed10:01
notsoeverrana_ans: so many hardware10:01
tomreynrana_ans: do you know which windows version it is?10:01
rana_answindows 10  HOME 64-bit?10:01
tomreynrana_ans: this was installed in uefi mode then. is your ubuntu installation installed in uefi mode, too?10:02
tomreynecho -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS10:02
rana_ansI have no idea about that, tell me how to check and I will tell you10:02
notsoeverwhat if i delete the partition fat10:02
rana_ansThis system booted via: UEFI10:02
notsoevergot problems with it10:03
tomreynrana_ans: oh, good so they're installe din the same mode. does grub not offer booting into windows then?10:03
rana_ansnope, I tried adding windows 10 into it by reading some of the problems in ubuntu help forums but it didnt help10:03
rana_ansit gives some kinda error10:04
tomreynrana_ans: can you be more specific on this error?10:04
rana_ansumm I dont remember it now, it said something about command not defined10:04
tomreynrana_ans: maybe you can run "sudo update-grub" now and share its output with us10:04
IcusDicusI use Termite as the terminal emulator, and am trying to connect to a BBS. It isn't showing ANSI properly, and I see coloured question marks. Any idea how to have it display ANSI properly?10:05
tomreyn!pastebin | rana_ans10:05
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rana_ansI edited 40_customs and then it gave me that error10:05
notsoeverwe must wun wolfes on ton on shhep....?10:05
tomreynnotsoever: unless you have an ubuntu support question or are actively helping others, please don't chat here. this is exclusively a support channel. there is also #ubuntu-offtopic10:06
rana_ansrana_ans@rana-ans:~$ sudo update-grubSourcing file `/etc/default/grub'Generating grub configuration file ...Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.3.0-050300-genericFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.3.0-050300-genericFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-66-genericFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-66-genericFound linux image:10:07
rana_ans/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-29-genericFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-29-genericAdding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configurationdone10:07
tomreynrana_ans: again, please use a pastebin10:07
notsoeverit is so clean i have no question.10:07
rana_ansyeah I tried that but Idk what to do there10:07
lotuspsychjenotsoever: then please remain quiet10:07
tomreynrana_ans: okay, let's try this:   sudo update-grub 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999910:08
tomreynrana_ans: actually, no, wait, this wont work10:08
tomreynrana_ans: okay, let's try this:   sudo update-grub &> /tmp/grub; cat /tmp/grub | nc termbin.com 999910:09
tomreynrana_ans: this should return http address you can then post here10:09
rana_ansoutput: https://termbin.com/3pqo10:09
tomreynrana_ans: okay, no indication that your windows installation was found there. now lets try this:   sudo os-prober &> /tmp/os-prober; cat /tmp/osprober | nc termbin.com 999910:11
tomreynrana_ans: please also     cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom | nc termbin.com 999910:15
JadedJtomreyn:How do I get my wireless interface to start during boot if I'm using netplan?10:15
notsoevermay i run confortably windows on top of Y with AMD support to nested virtualization intel cant?10:16
rana_anstomreyn sorry my broadband got restarted10:17
rana_ansheres output: cat: /tmp/osprober: No such file or directorync: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Name or service not known10:17
tomreynJadedJ: once you've configured it and ran netplan apply it should start by default, on a standard ubuntu system. you may need to roll back the configuration changes you had previously made when following this blog post you had linked to.10:17
tomreynrana_ans: i had mistyped, sorry, here's the correct command again:  sudo os-prober &> /tmp/os-prober; cat /tmp/os-prober | nc termbin.com 999910:18
tomreyn<tomreyn> rana_ans: please also     cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom | nc termbin.com 999910:19
tomreynnotsoever: i read your question twice but do not understand it.10:20
notsoevertomreyn: nested virtualization, who can?10:21
rana_ansthat menuentry, I added that10:21
tomreynnotsoever: i can, and you too, given the right hardware.10:21
notsoeverfor strong hardware10:21
tomreynrana_ans: okay, now the os-prober output, please10:21
rana_ansIt gives nothing back10:22
tomreynthat's good to know10:22
notsoevernice to tell10:22
rana_ansI ran this command: sudo os-prober &> /tmp/os-prober; cat /tmp/os-prober | cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom | nc termbin.com 999910:22
rana_ansand gave you the link it generated10:22
tomreynrana_ans: this is not the command i had provided, it is a mix of the two command lines i had provided10:23
rana_ansyour first one didnt give anything10:23
tomreynok, so os-prober did not detect any other OS10:24
rana_ansit takes a while but gives nothing back,10:24
tomreyni think what you have in /etc/grub.d/40_custom is for bios-booting windows10:25
JadedJtomreyn: I commented out the entries in '/etc/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service'10:25
rana_ansI added that because it fixed for someone10:25
JadedJThat have the value 'ExecStart=/sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i INTERFACE'10:26
rana_ansI have been searching how to add windows 10 to grub, tried different solutions but none has solved mine10:26
notsoevertomreyn: interests concern me amazon pay for sure, butt10:26
JadedJSaved the file, and then ran, 'sudo systemctl disable wpa_supplicant.service'10:26
tomreynrana_ans: i think you need something along the lines of this rather: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kYPGSwZVqG/10:26
JadedJI then opened '/etc/systemd/system/dhclient.service' and cleared all the entries I added10:27
JadedJThen ran 'sudo systemctl disable dhclient.service'10:27
tomreynrana_ans: so i suggest you replace the lower part of your /etc/grub.d/40_custom by this10:27
rana_anson it10:27
JadedJNext I ran 'sudo netplan apply' and rebooted10:27
rana_anstomreyn: btw if hd1 is for Hard drive, then shouldnt we be concerned that windows is installed on SSD?10:28
tomreynJadedJ: you'd probably want to mask the wpa_supplicant.service so it wont start again on boot (unless this is a default service, but i dont think it is)10:28
JadedJtomreyn: I've switched to netplan for wifi now, I've rebooted and everything seems to be working!10:28
notsoeveri am crazy to say a fly to amazon10:28
JadedJMask the wpa_supplicant.service?10:29
tomreynJadedJ: yes, that's what i said10:30
JadedJHow do I do that?10:30
tomreynJadedJ: systemctl mask wpa_supplicant.service10:30
rana_anstomreyn: btw if hd1 is for Hard drive, then shouldnt we be concerned that windows is installed on SSD?10:30
tommy``how can i add a permit to a folder and give access to it for another user? (not changing with chown)10:32
tomreynrana_ans: grub does not make a distinction between HDD and SSD. it considers any storage device an 'hd', and starts to count at 0.10:32
rana_ansok, now I have to update-grub and restart?10:32
tomreynrana_ans: i'm assuming that the SSD which windows is installe don is the 2nd storage your uefi system gets to see suring initialization, which is why i suggested to point it to hd1,110:33
rana_ansok I ran sudo update-grub, now Im gonna restart laptop, thats ok right?10:33
tomreynrana_ans: "sudo update-grub" now, but give me a minute i want to check more about whether this is realyl the right way to boot into windows on an uefi botted system.10:34
notsoevermy ssd id 120G runned ok with debian now 3T complains for our partner y are so more. for lazy dogs10:34
tomreynrana_ans: you can also just try and we can try again later10:34
tomreynas you prefer10:34
rana_ansI will wait for you to check more about it10:34
tomreynnotsoever: i am afraid i do not think that we can help you on this channel due to a language barrier.10:35
notsoeverin the rush10:35
IndustrialHi. I just dist-upgraded to 19.10 from 9.04. In gnome my mouse is gone on the desktop. WHen I have a window active I can see the pointer10:35
IndustrialOh, now it's there again :S10:36
notsoevergonna killl my language10:36
tomreynrana_ans: can you show me what's on your efi system partition?  sudo ls -lR /boot/efi/ &> /tmp/esp; cat /tmp/esp | nc termbin.com 999910:36
rana_anstomreyn: https://termbin.com/trjy10:37
JadedJtomreyn: when I run systemctl mask wpa_supplicant.service it says 'Failed to mask unit: File /etc/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service already exists.'10:39
tomreynrana_ans: hmm, this looks like you *may* have two efi system partitions now, one on the ssd and another one on the hdd ubuntu is installed on. but the system (UEFI firmware) will only use and find one, which is the one the ubuntu HDD10:41
rana_ansokay... how do we fix that? Im willing to do anything but uninstall windows :D10:41
tomreynrana_ans: let's try to confirm this theory:   sudo fdisk -l &> /tmp/fdisk ; sudo lsblk --fs >> /tmp/fdisk 2>&1; cat /tmp/fdisk | nc termbin.com 999910:43
rana_anstomreyn: https://termbin.com/f7eb10:43
tomreynJadedJ: it all boils down to this: if you manually created /etc/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service while making customizations to your system initially while following this blog post, you will need to remove it or at least ensure it will not be used. if, however, it was there previously, and things are just working fine now then there's nothing you need to do there.10:45
tomreynrana_ans: so actually ubuntu only sees one installed storage media ("disk"). you mentioned that you had been able to access windows files from ubuntu earlier, though?10:46
tomreynrana_ans: hmm actually there is an ntfs file system on sda110:47
tomreynrana_ans: but did you not say you had windows and ubuntu on different physical storages?10:47
rana_ansyes, windows is in C: which is totally on SSD10:47
rana_ansI shrinked some storage from HDD in windows before installing ubuntu10:48
tomreynand this 1 TB storage is not the SSD?10:48
rana_ansnope 1tb is HDD and 128 is ssd10:48
rana_ans128GB is SSD which is not shown anywhere, am I right?10:49
notsoeverwhat if i have pedo will yoy dare?10:49
tomreyncorrect, it is not detected properly. we can have a look at the system log, though:    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999910:49
tomreynrana_ans: ^10:49
notsoeverwont cost a penny10:49
notsoeverdo me10:50
tomreyn!ops | notsoever10:50
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rana_anstomreyn https://termbin.com/66of10:51
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tomreynrana_ans: and it says this:  Nov 04 09:00:57 rana-ans kernel: ahci 0000:00:17.0: Found 1 remapped NVMe devices.      Nov 04 09:00:57 rana-ans kernel: ahci 0000:00:17.0: Switch your BIOS from RAID to AHCI mode to use them.10:53
rana_ansumm how do I switch BIOS from RAID to AHCI?10:53
tomreynrana_ans: indeed, you should find a "SATA mode" setting in BIOS, which is currently set to "RAID" but needs to be set to "AHCI"10:53
notsoeverwont find nothing[10:54
notsoeveri am just alone10:55
notsoevernothing esle10:55
rana_anstomreyn: I told you I have no idea about BIOS and how to set things, could you just point me in a direction and I will keep you updated10:55
tomreynrana_ans: it probably looks like this for you: https://rog.asus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/5-PCIe-RAID.png10:56
tomreynrana_ans: this is a guess, since any mainboard bios may look differently, and i can't tell what exactly yours looks like10:56
lotuspsychjenotsoever: stop that10:56
notsoeveri on up to 4crazy10:57
rana_anstomreyn: yeah mine looks different than that, but I can go into it and have a look, find out where that property is10:57
rana_ansI'll connect here from my phone and go into bios from laptop, ok?10:58
tomreynrana_ans: good plan10:59
notsoevergo to the core10:59
notsoevernot the channel11:00
chietahow to know that my apt-get dist-upgrade is still running or not? the process is still listed on the top command, but the percentage stuck on 47%... any clues11:02
rana_ans96tomreyn: Ok I found an option ‘SATA Mode Slection’ which is selected to Intel RST Premium With Intel Optane System Acceleration’ second option that can be set is AHCI11:02
rana_ans96should I set it and save & exit?11:03
tomreynrana_ans96: yes, let's try it. i'm not sure whether windows will boot this way, but it wont cause data loss11:03
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tomreynrana_ans96: and you can't boot windows now anyways, so it also won't make things worse ;)11:04
rana_ans96When I select Windows 10 from grub it says11:04
rana_ans96eror: disk ‘{hd1, 1}’ not found11:05
rana_ans96Booting back unto ubuntu11:06
tomreynrana_ans96: okay, we'll have to investigate this further oncve you're booted into ubuntu. hopefully we can now detec tthe other disk11:06
rana_ans96yeah booting into ubuntu11:06
jeremy31rana_ans96: not hd1,gpt1?11:07
tomreynpost    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999    again when you're booted11:07
tomreynjeremy31: ah right, i had not thought of it11:07
rana_ans96jeremy31: sorry what?11:07
jeremy31rana_ans96: the error message11:08
tomreynthe main issue here is that windows is installe don intel optane and was set to RAID mode in bios before ubuntu was installed, though11:08
rana_ansyes it gave error and I posted it here as it is jeremy3111:08
tomreynjeremy31: we manually added this grub menu option which failed to boot now.11:08
rana_anstomreyn: its easy to write here, could tell me what command you wanted to run?11:09
tomreyn<tomreyn> post    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999    again when you're booted11:09
rana_anstomreyn: https://termbin.com/7qwo11:10
notsoevernot i was thinking about nested shit sorrry can in AMD not in intel11:10
tomreynrana_ans: the nvme is now detected   Nov 04 11:05:23 rana-ans kernel: nvme nvme0: 8/0/0 default/read/poll queues    Nov 04 11:05:23 rana-ans kernel:  nvme0n1: p1 p2 p3 p411:12
rana_ansok and?11:12
tomreynrana_ans: let's see the partitions there now:   sudo fdisk -l &> /tmp/fdisk ; sudo lsblk --fs >> /tmp/fdisk 2>&1; cat /tmp/fdisk | nc termbin.com 999911:13
rana_anstomreyn: https://termbin.com/bjtm11:13
tomreynrana_ans: also does    sudo os-prober     now output anything?11:14
rana_anstomreyn: yes, it returned: /dev/nvme0n1p2@/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi:Windows Boot Manager:Windows:efi11:14
tomreynrana_ans: okay, so just run    sudo update-grub11:15
tomreynrana_ans: actually you can remove the lines we added to /etc/grub.d/40_custom now, too. and run    sudo update-grub   once more11:15
jeremy31rana_ans: You might have to switch back to RAID mode and install AHCI drivers in Windws11:17
rana_anstomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZqsbWJ3HF6/11:17
rana_answe will do that once windows works.11:17
tomreynrana_ans: so you can try to boot into it now. but, as jeremy31 meant to point out, windows may be unable to boot in the modified configuration now.11:18
tomreynbut at least it should get to its boot loader now11:18
rana_answindows doesnt show in grub, how am I gonna boot into it?11:19
tomreynrana_ans: it should show in grub now11:19
tomreynsince update-grub / os-prober detected it at line 9 of https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZqsbWJ3HF6/11:20
rana_ansok I'll try it now, brb11:20
rana_ans41Be right back11:20
rana_ans41Tomreyn: ok it shows windows boot manager but gives error11:21
tomreynrana_ans41: do you want to tell us which error grub reports?11:22
alwynHi, I'm installing Ubuntu 18.04 right now, and I can't find a progress bar or anything. Can I somehow see what's happening?11:22
notsoeverman its all shinni in tyhe sun11:23
rana_ans41Error: no such device : 803F-49E911:23
notsoeverits all about11:23
rana_ans41error: file ‘/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi’ not found11:24
rana_ans41Tomreyn: ^11:24
notsoevergonna thow up11:24
notsoeverwith amazon?11:25
rana_ansok tomreyn, there were two errors that I wrote earlier.11:25
tomreynrana_ans41: hmm 803F-49E9 is the vfat file system UUID on the nvme. maybe grub cannot access the optane storage for some reason11:25
rana_ansI read optane something in other option against AHCI11:26
tomreynrana_ans: had you removed the non comment lines off /etc/grub.d/40_custom before you ran update-grub?11:26
notsoevercope to the erros11:27
rana_ansnope, I only removed what you told me too11:27
rana_anshash tagged lines + !/bin something, they are all there11:27
rana_ansI can recheck tho11:27
rana_ansyead, they are all there11:28
notsoeverdo me11:28
tomreynrana_ans: hash tagged = comment lines, yes. those lines starting with # should remain there, and the ones that were below should be removed11:28
rana_ansyes I removed menuentry only, not the ones before it11:28
tomreynnotsoever: can you please just shut up or leave?11:29
rana_ansis he a helper or an admin here?11:29
DevtronIf i am understanding this right, none of the 19.xx ubuntu versions are getting LTS support, is this correct ?11:30
tomreynDevtron: they are not LTS releases, so that's correct.11:30
jeremy31Devtron: correct, only the .04 release on even numbered years is LTS11:30
notsoevergo ahead11:31
tomreynrana_ans: i need a 5 miunte break, maybe jeremy has another suggestion in the meantime, otherwise i can look up what can be done in this situation afterwards11:31
tomreyn!lts | Devtron11:31
ubottuDevtron: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information.11:31
rana_anstomreyn: ok, I will be here. I will ask jeremy for if he has anything11:32
rana_ansjeremy31, there?11:33
notsoevergonna chek... not so much@11:33
jeremy31rana_ans: URL from terminal for>  sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 999911:33
rana_ansjeremy31: so I assume you have been reading and know my problem hsitory?11:33
rana_anson it11:33
notsoevertelll me now11:34
jeremy31rana_ans: and>  sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com11:35
rana_ansjeremy31: https://termbin.com/rlq311:36
jeremy31rana_ans: you have an EFI System partition on each drive11:37
notsoevervc seguiu bich11:37
notsoevereh nois aki11:37
jeremy31Whoops, time to go to work11:38
rana_ansI have windows installed on SSD but ubuntu on HDD,11:38
rana_ansyou are going too? or you are going to work to solve my problem?11:39
jeremy31rana_ans: but it was in RAID mode?11:39
notsoevermeu amor11:39
notsoeverto no seguinte11:39
rana_ansI have no idea, it was not in AHCI there was another option with long name11:39
jeremy31Some Intel option11:40
jeremy31tom will be back soon11:40
rana_ansyes intel...optane... alot of names11:40
rana_ansso you are going too?11:40
notsoeveramd intel?11:40
notsoevercomme on11:41
tomreynrana_ans: i'm back. need to read a bit about how to dual boot with intel optane now. this is a proprietary storage which *may* not be well supported by ubuntu. i'll see.11:44
notsoeverwhatever bic11:44
rana_ansok sure, do whatever you want man I want this fixed11:45
rana_ansthis didnt happen in my hp elitbook old ass laptop lol11:45
Devtronquestion, is it called terminal or consol access when you only a server version of ubuntu is used11:46
rana_anstomreyn: can we just not uninstall ubuntu from within here and shrink volume from ssd and install ubuntu there and it doesnt give any problems?11:49
tomreynrana_ans: no. my guess is that grub does not actually see the optane memory, and thus cannot boot off it. this would probably be the same if grub was installed on the optane memory, too.11:52
notsoeverthe  masters keek11:52
tomreynrana_ans: what you can try, though, is to reboot to grub now and verify whether it can see more than one disk11:52
rana_ansit shows windows boot loader but doesnt load11:53
notsoeverwake up now11:53
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tomreynrana_ans: press escape when at the grub menu, so you get the grub comand line, and type "ls", then press tab twice to see possible targets11:54
Milenchorana_ans, did you install windows/linux in UEFI mode ?11:54
notsoeverjuices for y11:54
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rana_ansmilencho: yes11:54
rana_anstomreyn: noted11:54
Devtronwhat is a good CHEAP single slot gpu to get to use with an old server and ubuntu desktop11:54
notsoeverrana_ans: give me11:55
rana_anstomreyn: ok Imma reboot and do that now11:55
Milenchorana_ans, if it's not a big effort u can do it again and make new UEFI bootable USB/CD11:55
Milenchoi had similar issue before few months and it's disaster;]11:55
rana_ansmilencho: Im unable to boot into windows so how can I delete ubuntu and do whatever you just said :D11:56
rana_ansI just dont wanna lose windows, I have some really important stuff in it11:56
notsoeveris good11:56
tomreynrana_ans: actually you'll need to type    ls (     then press tab once11:56
notsoever not so much11:57
tomreynaaw you dont have backups :-/11:57
Milenchorana_ans just make good USB EUFI ubuntu11:57
rana_ansyeah economy sucks here and students dont get pocketmoney from govt11:58
Milenchoyou have already created partitions so you will not f*** up the win os11:58
tomreynDevtron: try ##hardware for hardware recommendations.11:58
rana_ansok so lemme do what tomreyn said and then go on doing what you are saying11:58
Devtrontomreyn thaks12:00
rana_ans20Possible commands are12:00
rana_ans20tomreyn: ls lsacpi lscoreboot lsefi lsefimmp lsef isystab lsfonts lsmmap lsmod lspci lssal12:01
rana_ans20it works with the bracket12:01
alwynIs there any installation log whatsoever that you can tail or something? I am not seeing any progress, and the installation has been running for about an hour now. From a USB to a laptop with an SSD, so it should go fast. :/12:01
tomreynrana_ans20: so when you type     ls (     and then press tab it prints "Possible commands are..."?12:02
tomreynit should actually print "Possible devices are: ..." then12:03
rana_ans20No I type ls and press tab and then it says that, ls ( does nothing12:03
rana_ans20nope not that12:03
rana_ans20I pressed escape at grub12:03
rana_ans20it shows grub>12:04
tomreynrana_ans20: press enter so you get a new prompt. when you now type    ls (h     and press tab, what does it print then?12:04
rana_ans20i type ls and press tab it shows possible commands12:05
tomreynthats not what i asked, though12:05
rana_ans20for ls (h it says cant find command12:05
rana_ans20ls h says invalid file name12:05
tomreyntype "ls (h"   then press tab once, not enter12:05
tomreynwithout the quotation marks12:05
rana_ans20it gives nothing12:06
rana_ans20however ls h gives possible files are ....12:06
rana_ans20without brakcet it works12:06
tomreynhmm, ok, that's strange, it doesn#t see any disks12:06
tomreynif you just type "ls" and press enter, what does it say?12:07
notsoeverin my place12:07
rana_ans20ls, enter gives, hd0 hd0,gpt4, hd0,got3, hd0,got2, hd0,gpt112:08
notsoevertorment aqgaingn in my place12:08
rana_ans20these are in brackets, it takes alotta time on phone12:08
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tomreynok, so it really doesn't see the optane12:09
notsoeverwe ra in bick12:09
tomreynso grub won't be able to boot windows off the optane, but maybe we can copy windows' boot block to the efi system partition on the hdd and then *maybe* windows can start. but i'm not really sure this can work12:11
tomreynmaybe it's better you undo the bios configuration change and delete ubuntu for now, then work on making windows bootable again off the optane (maybe get help with this in ##windows) and then back it up and install everyhting on the hdd instead.12:12
rana_ans20just tell me what you want me to do to fix this  as quickly as possible12:12
rana_ans20how do I delete ubuntu?12:12
notsoeveryou curse up mustache, did y?12:12
rana_ans20and if I delete it, will I be able to boot into windows automatically?12:13
tomreynto delete ubuntu, you could just overwrite the hdd (except for the ntfs partitiont ere which you probably want to retain)12:14
notsoevery gave me all12:14
tomreynto delete ubuntu, you could just overwrite the hdd (except for the ntfs partition there which you probably want to retain)12:14
rana_ans20tomreyn: wait I clicked on windows boot loader in grub and it loaded window but it came up with blue screen that it ran into problem12:14
tomreynyou could do so while booted form a live usb system12:14
notsoevermust shit to complain?12:15
tomreynrana_ans20: ?! what's different now than last time you tried to do so?12:15
rana_ans20umm last time I couldnt get into windows or even load windows,12:16
Devtronis it posible to create an account that can install what they want, BUT cannot create new user accounts ?12:16
notsoevertremblin uses12:17
tomreynrana_ans20: yes, i mean did you change some other configurations, since last time you chose this option from the grub menu it just said it could not find the file system12:17
tomreynunless you were trying the old grub menu option again then which we had previously tried to remove12:18
rana_ans20I did nothing on my own since I have been getting help from you12:18
alwynDevtron: you can definitely do that if you just use apt/apt-get directly. Not sure if you use the package manager GUI.12:19
rana_ans20Tomreyn: well now I can enter troubleshoot and recovery in windows, so if I do windows recovery, will it solve the boot problem as well?12:20
tomreynrana_ans20: okay, i'm just surprised it's behaving differnetly now while we made no changes. i'll just accept it as it is now.12:20
notsoevernot so ever12:20
rana_ans20Well Idk but jeremy didnt tell me to do anything either12:21
tomreynat least you got to the windows boot loader now. so you probably you will need to convince windows to boot with this setup now somehow, probably using a windows installer dvd or something. i suggest you get help with this in ##windows12:21
tomreynwell, we're just volunteers here, spending our spare time. i'm not familiar with optane, jeremy had to go to work.12:22
rana_ans20so theres a channel for windows too, I’ll go into it once I have windows on usb12:22
BluesKajHi folks12:22
rana_ans20oh ok, thanks tho12:22
Devtronalwyn I am ressponsible for some servers where phd students need to test their projects on, I just want to prevent them from creating new accounts. if they want their own computer, I can give them either a VM with remote access, or if posible their own computer to play with that gets formated when they are done12:23
notsoevercome colgalgte naturak me te essee, waked dondwone i know12:25
tomreynrana_ans20: you're welcome. for the future: please keep in mind to always have good backups, generally, and especially when you decide to set up multi-boot.12:25
alwynDevtron: I'd say give them the necessary sudo commands in /etc/sudoers.d/12:26
rana_ans20Tomreyn: its not all about backup too, I bought this laptop recently and if I delete all the OSs, I have have to buy windows because they didnt provide me with a key to register it again and I have no idea why they didnt provide12:26
tomreynrana_ans20: it's probably stored on the mainboard, details in ##windows, i guess12:27
tomreynor from your hardware manufacturer12:27
notsoeverrana_ans20: BICH12:27
rana_ans20Notsoever: thanks12:28
notsoeverNO CONFIDENCE12:28
rana_ans20tomreyn: for windows just its double hash or I can go with /join #windows?12:29
notsoeverNOT ME PNEED FUCK YOU12:29
tomreynrana_ans20: it's what i wrote twice. ##windows12:29
rana_ans20Ok I joined it thanks!12:29
notsoeverSECURITY IN THIS12:30
notsoeverNOT SO MUCH12:36
lotuspsychje_!ops | notsoever trolling mumble12:37
notsoevermy caps12:37
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notsoevernot trouble in amazon12:38
lotuspsychjetnx popey12:39
rexwinwhere can I download the minimal iso for installation?13:36
popey!mini | rexwin13:37
ubotturexwin: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:37
ioriarexwin, for what release ?13:39
mgedmin! YY.MM13:39
ubottuUbuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle13:39
ioriarexwin, so check the link posted above13:40
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IarlaI'm getting an error running electron on my project "failed to install correctly" https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NddwzVrkyg/ has anyone seen this before? I'm following an Ubuntu-based tutorial for Electron here: https://www.techomoro.com/building-a-simple-hello-world-app-in-electron/14:08
pragmaticenigma!alsi | Iarla: You may want to try asking in a development channel. You can try14:10
pragmaticenigma!alis | Iarla: You may want to try asking in a development channel. You can try14:10
ubottuIarla: You may want to try asking in a development channel. You can try: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"14:10
Iarlathanks, will do!14:10
ufk_hi! :) i'm on ubuntu 19.10 and bash code completion doesn't work for anything. any ideas ?14:46
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pragmaticenigmaufk_: How are you trying to use bash completion? by default it only works for file paths15:08
hans__if i run `sudo apt install ffmpeg` on 18.04, will i get ffmpeg or libav? (may sound like a stupid question but there was a huge fight that created libav, and some Debian maintainers was on team libav, and for some time made the `ffmpeg` package install libav, and a make a fake ffmpeg binary stating `ffmpeg is deprecated`, idk if 18.04 was affected by that bs or not)15:10
pragmaticenigmahans__: You will get ffmpeg15:11
BluesKajffmpeg is not deprecated15:12
hans__BluesKaj, it never was, but the libav team which was responsible for the debian ffmpeg package maintainership, abused their position to promote libav and falsely claim that ffmpeg was deprecated15:13
hans__i think it was around debian 8, don't know for sure tho15:14
hans__(and Ubuntu inherit a lot of debian packages, given that it's based on Debian)15:15
BluesKajhans__,  yeah, can't always believe what you hear on Linux about popular apps15:15
pragmaticenigmahans__: A little web searching returns this: https://lwn.net/Articles/650495/15:17
pragmaticenigmahans__: And this: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/11/ffmpeg-returns-to-official-ubuntu.html15:19
doug16kwow, I can't even find avconv. I could have sworn it was there15:21
doug16kdid it disappear?15:22
ufk_pragmaticenigma, ahh so how do I enable bash-completion for... everything? :)15:22
doug16khttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/avconv.1.html ???15:24
doug16kmust have been removed since "precise", whatever that nonsense means15:24
pragmaticenigmadoug16k: avconv and libav features were merged back into ffmpeg15:24
leftistanyone having issues with the .04 to .10 upgrade?15:24
pragmaticenigma!YY.MM | leftist15:24
ubottuleftist: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle15:25
pragmaticenigmaufk_: There is no "everything" ... What specifically are you trying to do?15:26
ufk_ok so systemd bash-completion :) so systemctl restart bla<TAB> will complete me15:26
doug16kls /usr/share/bash-completion/completions15:28
pragmaticenigmadoug16k: If you're attempting to help. You need to provide instructions and explain what you're trying to get them to do. Telling them where a random file is on their system isn't really helping.15:29
doug16krandom eh?15:29
doug16kclears up some of the mystery doesn't it?15:30
doug16ki.e., completions aren't magic and the earlier assertion that only paths complete was false15:30
pragmaticenigmadoug16k: without context, it appears random... and the question at hand isn't where bash completion lives as much as why it's not working for ufk_ as they expect it15:31
doug16kpragmaticenigma, ok, can you tell us how to "enable" tab completions15:32
doug16kit was a complete mystery to me until someone pointed out that directory I mentioned15:34
doug16kbut sure, feel free to shoo people away15:35
lotuspsychjedoug16k: please, only ubuntu issues here15:35
cluelesspersonDoes anyone know how I can troubleshoot / debug / actively change the gdm3.css?15:36
cluelesspersoninstead of having to restart to see changes?15:36
cluelesspersonI'd like to edit it in real time.15:36
pragmaticenigmaufk_: Does completion work for something like "apt in<TAB>" ??15:36
doug16kpragmaticenigma, I didn't realize you were the dictator of what can be said and in what way15:37
lotuspsychjedoug16k: stop please, move that to #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic15:38
pragmaticenigmadoug16k: Perhaps instead of making rash assumption, think that maybe my silence is because I'm attempting to find the correct and most complete answer I can to something that I'm not very familiar with. Instead of spending so much effort on your trolling efforts, you could be doing the same. Instead of driving people away with your attack messages directed at a member of the community that is trying their best to help someone.15:38
Genius290IQive been trying to find a command or a script that would upgrade my U untu to desktop15:49
Genius290IQmy Ubuntu desktop The newest version of windows 10. I cant seem to find the script. can someone provide me with a one line command?15:49
Genius290IQ*** Who the newest version of windows 10.15:50
HabbieGenius290IQ, if you want help upgrading windows, ask in ##windows :)15:51
BluesKajWSL perhaps ?15:59
ryuoeither way this isn't an "how do i upgrade windows" channel.16:00
Genius290IQno, I was trying to upgrade Ubuntu to the newest version of windows 10. I just need the Linux command to be able to do that.16:01
Genius290IQlooking for a single command or script.16:01
pragmaticenigmaGenius290IQ: You can't upgrade Ubuntu to Windows. You download the Windows ISO image from Microsoft and follow their instructions for installation16:01
BluesKajyou can't16:02
Genius290IQohhh ok. what about apt-get update?16:02
pragmaticenigmaGenius290IQ: There is no method for handling anything Windows related with Ubuntu16:03
BluesKaj!OS | Genius290IQ16:05
BluesKajGenius290IQ,  do you know what an Operating Sysem is ? google is your friend16:07
BluesKajSystem even16:08
_KaszpiR_Genius290IQ unless you mean you have ubuntu server (non desktop version) and want to upgrade it to destkop16:11
_KaszpiR_such as with unity/xfce/kde window manager16:12
Genius290IQwell no I have the desktop version of Ubuntu, but I keep getting hacked. it was explained to me that this is extremely common on Linux systems. One guy went as far as saying that so far every Linux system he had has been hacked at one point or another. am I understanding this is extremely rare on windows 10.. so I was hoping to solve this issue. on the other hand Im being told that windows 1016:13
Genius290IQcan get viruses which could be almost as damaging.16:13
ryuo... what makes you think you're getting hacked?16:14
ryuosounds like a lot of FUD to me. i usually only see attempts against my servers.16:15
Genius290IQadditional users are being created. From time to time my root password gets changed. The Web server I had had a whole bunch of files changed that said "you have been hacked by Mohammed!!"16:15
ryuoerr... is your password weak?16:16
ryuoit sounds like something happening from bad security practices.16:16
ryuothen again, ubuntu doesn't have a root password out of the box.16:16
_KaszpiR_sounds more like you got a local web server with incorrect permissions or for example installed apache + mod_mime_magic and you got some webapp installed and improperly configured16:18
_KaszpiR_which is exploitable16:18
_KaszpiR_or using default passwords16:18
DArqueBishopOr he's a troll.16:19
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lotuspsychjewelcome RoseBus how can we help you?17:13
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stoojIs there any reason why the fractional scaling gui widgets won't show up in the Gnome Displays dialog? The feature has been enabled via `gsettings`, and the machine has been rebooted.17:54
stoojAre there limitations with some gfx drivers or anything?17:55
pragmaticenigmastooj: Can you be more specific? are you experiencing an issue currently?18:07
stoojUnfortunately, this is second-hand info from my boss.18:09
stoojThey followed this tutorial: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/enable-fractional-scaling-ubuntu-19-0418:10
stoojAnd have confirmed the change by running `gsettings get ...` to check the value was set18:10
stoojRunning Gnome 3.32.1 and they've restarted their machine.18:11
stoojBut the scale widget only shows 100/200%18:11
stoojI'm asking to see if there's some known thing like "Oh, that doesn't work on Nvidia", or "modeset needs to be 1" or something that my ddg-foo is failing to uncover.18:12
pragmaticenigmastooj: What version of Ubuntu are they running?18:15
stoojpragmaticenigma: 19.0418:17
stoojNo out of channel Gnome or anything, just the plain old repo version18:18
pragmaticenigmastooj: The feature the article you're referring to is not related to graphics drivers. Also, you should note in the article it states the feature is experimental and may not work for everyone. If the feature is not appearing in the control panel after tweaking the setting, that means something deeper inside of Gnome is preventing the feature from activating. Since the feature is experimental, there is no documentation that I can18:20
pragmaticenigmafind on it. So it's hard to support that at this time.18:20
stoojpragmaticenigma: Thanks for looking anyway; I just wondered if there was some well-known blocker18:21
pragmaticenigmastooj: In this case, the blocker is that it is an "in development" feature and only the Gnome developers would have the answer18:22
stoojGrand. Thanks again18:23
ioriastooj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/182655018:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1826550 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Fractional scaling options do not appear with multiple monitors" [Low,Confirmed]18:24
DevtronIf i want to want to setup a ubuntu server, and I want users to install software, programs, kernal updates and whatever, the ONLY thing i want to limint them from doing is create new user accounts, is there a way to do this ?18:43
stoojioria: Ooh. That looked promising, but there's only a single monitor18:44
ioriastooj, 1) you see the cmd is different for wayland and xorg; did you run the right one ? 2) have you tried to set the scale via cli , with xrandr i mean ?18:46
vltDevtron: Well, technically, if you grant someone permission to even replace your kernel all bets are off.18:47
ioriaDevtron, i guess you need to manipulate /etc/sudoers18:47
vltDevtron: But running their own kernel easily lets any user skip rules like sudoers.18:49
Devtronwhat about then just apt-get updates  and so on18:50
ioriaDevtron, same, you need to manipulate /etc/sudoers18:53
lordcirth_Devtron, letting them run only apt and apt-get should do. But note this is an "keeping honest people honest" kind of security. There will be holes for sufficiently clever/motivated users.19:12
lordcirth_Devtron, alternatively, have you considered giving them each an unprivileged container, or even a shared one?19:13
Devtronlordcirth_ well there is the keep the people honest about it so just changing sudoers will have to do19:35
rodrigoty23is gimp 2.10.14 on the ubuntu repos?19:53
sarnoldrodrigoty23: the versions of gimp in the different releases https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp19:53
sarnoldfocal will get 2.10.12 perhaps within a week or so, assuming the tests are passing19:54
rodrigoty23sarnold, what version of gimp do you got?19:55
sarnoldwell, I've not bothered installing gimp, so none :)19:55
rodrigoty23sarnold, are you always this blissful?19:55
sarnoldbut I'm on disco, so if I installed it, I'd get 2.10.8-219:56
sarnoldrodrigoty23: oh yeah :) you gotta be happy to make it through life19:56
ioriarodrigoty23, there is a flatpak for .1419:56
pragmaticenigmarodrigoty23: To get the latest versions you can install flatpak or snap versions. The repositories strive for stability, so there version may lag behind the developers' released versions19:57
indoorcatmy computer shut down and my laptop screen turned upside down, I use an external monitor and that is normal right side up19:58
indoorcathow do you flip this image?19:58
gh00pHiya. If I'm running nginx and php-fpm with multiple virtualhosts, can I recycle the same unix socket for each virtualhost, or should I create a new socket for each one in /etc/php/7.3/fpm/pool.d/ ? And if the unix socket *can* be recycled, what might be the benefit of having multiple sockets?19:58
sarnoldindoorcat: xrandr can do that19:58
ws2k3my ubuntu boot hangs on Starting to flush journal to persistent storage. i just cloned it to another disk19:59
indoorcatis xrander a person in here? it's weird I got a mirror image of my mouse and it is confusing witch one works20:00
lordcirth_indoorcat, no, xrandr is a command line tool for handling displays20:00
sarnoldxrandr is a command line program that knows how to handle displays20:00
indoorcati'm just diving into python basics, I was utilizing the second monitor for my workspace in treehouse20:01
indoorcatcan someone help?20:01
indoorcati think someone hacked me20:01
Devtronwhat are the indications20:02
indoorcathad my vpn on20:02
sarnoldwb indoorcat_, the last we saw was < indoorcat> had my vpn on20:04
indoorcat_can somone help? why did my image flip upside down and why is my mouse mirrored?20:05
akkindoorcat: xrandr --help gives you a list of options; you'll probably want something like  xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode auto --rotate inverted20:05
oerheksindoorcat_, so tell us what did you do?20:05
akkdepending on what monitor you're using, whether it's rotated or mirrored, etc.20:05
indoorcat_do I type it in terminal?20:06
akkI don't know if there's a gui front-end to xrandr, I've only used it from the commandline.20:06
akkxrandr with no arguments will tell you all the displays it sees connected, and what resolutions they support.20:07
akk(if you're not sure whether it's HDMI-1 or what)20:07
ioriaakk, 'arandr' is a visual front end for XRandR20:08
ws2k3i have an ubuntu 18.04 machine but it seems its not reading the /etc/networking/interfaces what can i do?20:08
indoorcat_i don't know what i'm doing in randr20:11
indoorcat_why did the monitor flip upside down?20:11
lordcirth_ws2k3, 18.04 networking should be configured in /etc/netplan/20:12
ubottuNetplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/20:12
akkws2k3: Usually ubuntu uses networkmanager, not /etc/network/interfaces20:12
akk(more's the pity)20:13
akkindoorcat_: No idea why, maybe someone snuck onto your machine and did that to freak you out.20:14
akkIt is a common joke to play on people in computer labs and other group situations, I've heard.20:14
indoorcat_how do I fix it20:15
akkindoorcat_: See my suggestion above.20:15
indoorcat_the clock bar isn't even at the bottom it's missing20:15
akkindoorcat_: or try ioria's suggestion of 'arandr'20:15
ioriahe probably has a gyroscope chip20:16
oerheksvpn disrupted gyroscope :-D20:17
darkfurryhi all ! can someone help me ? i want to update to the latest kernel and my gpg signature fails. what can I do ?20:19
sarnolddarkfurry: can you pastebin the error you're getting?20:19
darkfurryI'm new on this . can you explain pastebin ?20:20
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:20
oerhekson what ubuntu version, and what 'latest kernel' ?20:20
sarnolddarkfurry: sure :) to ovoid channel floods, it's nice to send ouputs of three or more lines to a pastebin site, and then share just the link to the site with us https://paste.ubuntu.com/20:21
indoorcat_there's no rotation setting in displays 18.04?20:21
darkfurryubuntu 19.10 and the kernel I want to update is 5.3.820:21
ioriaindoorcat_, https://i.stack.imgur.com/cS3gE.png20:22
lordcirth_!info linux-generic eoan20:22
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version (eoan), package size 1 kB, installed size 16 kB20:22
oerheksfrom mainline?20:22
lordcirth_Doesn't seem like 5.3.8 has landed in 19.10 yet?20:22
indoorcat_that does nothing20:23
lordcirth_darkfurry, why do you want 5.3.8?20:23
sarnoldit's usually better to check the linux source package page for versions https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux20:24
oerheksoh not even from the mainline repo .. not supported20:24
sarnoldthis shows 5.3.0-18.19 in the eoan release20:24
darkfurryI think someone has tempered my sistem :(20:24
sarnoldand 5.3.0-19.20 in security, updates20:24
lordcirth_darkfurry, why would you think that?20:24
sarnoldand 5.3.0-21.22 in proposed20:24
oerhekshttps://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ these newer builds work, but are just for testng, not sure why you need 5.3.8 ...20:24
darkfurrycoz I can't verify any sha even in windows 10 using kleopatra and even in unix using ubuntu20:25
darkfurrythe signature always fails20:25
lordcirth_darkfurry, you can't verify that signature because you don't have the matching public key trusted.20:25
ioriadarkfurry, https://www.kernel.org/signature.html20:25
lordcirth_darkfurry, but regardless, you shouldn't be installing unsupported kernels manually.20:25
oerheksoh boy20:25
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darkfurryI want to compile the kernel from sources , try to learn UNIX20:26
lordcirth_darkfurry, Ok. you should probably install Virtualbox and do it in a VM, then20:26
darkfurryoky-doky thank you !20:27
indoorcat_xrandr is not doing anything20:37
indoorcat_there's no rotate in settings?20:37
indoorcat_in 18.0420:37
akkindoorcat_: 'xrandr --help | grep rotate' prints nothing?20:38
* akk has never actually used rotate, but was under the impression it had been in xrandr all along, hence the r-and-r name20:39
sarnoldyes :)20:39
indoorcat_how do you type the pipe command20:40
indoorcat_i don't see it on my keyboard20:40
sarnoldon my keyboard it's shifted \20:41
akkOn my US keyboard it's above ] which is above the left end of Enter. On other keyboards, I can't help.20:42
akkoh, right, sorry, shifted \ not ]20:42
indoorcat_I don't know what my built in display is called and what acual command will rotate it20:43
indoorcat_i tried this20:43
sarnoldrunning xrandr without arguments will tell you what the display is called20:43
indoorcat_ xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --rotate normal20:44
indoorcat_nothing happend20:44
indoorcat_i'm guessing it is called eDP-1-120:44
ioriayou don't need to guess20:44
FreeBDSMhello, how to properly update nvidia driver from 430 to 440?20:44
FreeBDSMthey seem to be different packages20:45
akkRight, xrandr with no arguments will tell you what display(s) are connected.20:45
akkAlso try rotating somthing like left or right, see if it changes anything.20:45
indoorcat_i'm confused, it's a lot of information20:45
ioriaindoorcat_, step by step .... don't worry20:46
indoorcat_it is called eDP-1-120:46
akkindoorcat_: Just take a deep breath and don't panic, and read through it, and you'll see that it's actually pretty simple, a list of displays and for each display, a list of resolutions they support.20:46
indoorcat_the one called hdmi is my external monitor20:46
oerheksFreeBDSM, maybe the driver ppa gives 440 for your ubuntu version https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa20:46
indoorcat_it is called eDP-1-120:47
indoorcat_how do I rotate it back20:47
FreeBDSMoerheks: there's no problem to obtain the package, I'm asking about the proper way of switching between packages: should I install new one and then delete the older one? or should I delete the older one first and then install the newer one? should I reboot between these steps?20:48
oerheksFreeBDSM, if you would add that ppa, just update and newer version will be installed and activated20:48
oerheksand you can reverse packages to the original ones with purge ppa20:49
oerheksmake sure you are up2date: sudo apt dist-upgrade20:50
FreeBDSMI use http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu20:50
FreeBDSMit looks like it is exactly that ppa20:50
FreeBDSMoerheks: updating doesn't switch 430->44020:51
FreeBDSMthey are independent packages20:51
FreeBDSMnvm, should've just tried to manually install nvidia-driver-44020:53
sarnoldindoorcat_: try xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --rotate inverted   or xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --rotate right   or xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --rotate left  etc..20:53
ikoniacould someone on 19.04 and 19.10 just verify the default ntp client installed, is it ntp or chrony20:53
ikonianot got a box to hand but want to test something20:53
oerheks 18.04 systemctl status chronyd   ... Unit chronyd.service could not be found.20:55
ikoniayeah, got 18.0420:55
ikonia19.04 and 19.10 I'm missing here20:55
oerheksfiring up 19.10 ..20:55
ikoniaamazing, thank you20:56
oerheksnope, not as standard, chrony20:57
ikoniafoiled my plans20:57
ikoniaappreciated the check oerheks20:58
indoorcat_xrandr -o normal doesnt do anything20:59
indoorcat_i unplugged the other mintor20:59
oerheksikonia, timedatectl status  # gives you more info20:59
jackie12345I just upgraded to 19.10 from 19.04. I have a fake monitor dongle plugged into my HDMI port which worked perfectly before, allowing me to use nomachine to connect to the fake display and use that for controlling machine where necessary. nomachine cant find the display anymore and xrandr --query returns nothing20:59
PwnOnMahMindHit:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan InReleaseErr:2 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com eoan InRelease  403  Forbidden [IP: 443]Reading package lists... DoneE: Failed to fetch https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/dists/eoan/InRelease  403  Forbidden [IP: 443]E: The repository21:03
PwnOnMahMind'https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com eoan InRelease' is not signed.N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.21:03
PwnOnMahMindanyway to fix this, I've tried adding [trusted=yes] to the source, but same error.21:03
ikoniatalk to the rpeo owner21:03
sarnoldindoorcat_: did you have any luck with 'inverted' or 'right' or 'left'?21:03
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sarnoldikonia: for main, we switched from ntpd to chrony but I *think* systemd-timesyncd may be a default choice for some situations..21:04
indoorcat_sarnold, yea it flipped the external monitor though21:04
ikoniasarnold: love to hear more about that21:05
indoorcat_how do i use the correct monitor, i unplugged it21:05
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indoorcat_you think a reboot with the external monitor unplugged would work?21:05
indoorcat_how do i rotate by name of monitor21:06
sarnoldindoorcat_: were you able to find some combinations that eventually restored your monitor?21:06
oerheksgood story https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html21:06
indoorcat_i'm lazy thats why i'm asking21:06
oerheksSince Ubuntu 16.04 timedatectl / timesyncd (which are part of systemd) replace most of ntpdate / ntp.21:06
sarnoldikonia: our friends at the linux foundation paid for an audit of ntpd, ntpsec, and chrony, and the auditors really preferred chrony codebase https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/2017/09/cii-audit-identifies-secure-ntp-implementation/21:06
sarnoldikonia: after they got the results, they asked us to consider switching to chrony; I vastly preferred the chrony codebase too, and figured that the handful of features that ntpd offered over chrony weren't important enough to keep ntpd in main21:07
chris11I'm on ubuntu 18. I'm wanting to share python3.8 venvs between users. Where should venv folders go?21:07
ikoniasarnold: yeah, the difference between ntp and chrony is well documented (the audit was a great read too) sarnold I'm interested in as you said, main hosts chrony, but as oerheks link points out, actually it's defaulting to systemd21:07
tomreyn!xx.yy | chris1121:08
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ubottuchris11: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle21:08
indoorcat_ xrandr eDP-1-1 -o normal21:09
indoorcat_xrandr: unrecognized option 'eDP-1-1'21:09
indoorcat_Try 'xrandr --help' for more information.21:09
indoorcat_indoorcat@calmklown:~$ xrandr -o eDP-1-1 normal21:09
indoorcat_xrandr: -o: invalid argument 'eDP-1-1'21:09
indoorcat_Try 'xrandr --help' for more information.21:09
tomreyn!paste | indoorcat_21:09
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sarnoldindoorcat_: rather than guessing at the commands to run, why not use the commands I suggested 20 minutes ago? "try xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --rotate inverted   or xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --rotate right   or xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --rotate left  etc.."21:11
akkindoorcat_: What does xrandr | grep -w connected say? I'm curious where that eDP-1-1 comes from, because on my system monitor names never have that extra -1.21:11
sarnoldakk: the extra -1 in my experience come from using a dock21:12
akk(and yeah, agree with sarnold, I suggested those commands too)21:12
akksarnold: Interesting. I'm using a dock (generic usb-c hub type) but I don't get any extra -1.21:12
sarnoldakk: hmm. the docks I tried both had multiple video outputs.. does yours have just one video output or multiple?21:13
akksarnold: Mine has two HDMI and one VGA.21:14
akk(but I'm only using one HDMI)21:15
indoorcat_inverted fixed it ubottu21:15
sarnoldakk: hah, crazy. there's something fun in finding my guesses are 100% wrong sometimes. :)21:15
indoorcat_normal puts it upsidedown21:15
akksarnold: Probably not 100%, maybe some docks do, some don't.21:15
tomreynchris11: basically, just pick any location which seems to make sense to share access at. that's probably not in /home, but maybe somewhere below /var, mabye somewhere in /var/local or /var/opt/ ?21:15
chris11I put a venvs folder  on the same level as home and bin. var might be better though.21:16
akksarnold: Device naming is so random in linux anyway. Wasn't that long ago I had to rewrite all my monitor aliases when xrandr switched from HDMI1 to HDMI-1 etc ...21:16
sarnoldakk: oh jeeze :)21:17
sarnoldindoorcat_: woot21:17
indoorcat_my mouse is still upside down21:17
akksarnold: so now I have a more flexible python function that parses xrandr output and figures out all the connected monitors.21:17
indoorcat_im gonna reboot21:17
akkProbably a good idea.21:18
sarnold*mouse* is still upside down?? weird :)21:18
akkhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1061403/upside-down-mouse-cursor-and-inverted-position-on-ubuntu-18-04 suggests iio-sensor-proxy may do things like this.21:19
tomreynchris11: i guess this is also fine, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9506281/sharing-python-virtualenv-environments has ye another suggestion21:20
sarnoldakk: nice nice. I was using autoxrandr at some point, and pretty happy with it, but when I had some power fluctuation problems with my previous setup, autoxrandr would go *insane* trying to swap things around and add easily twenty seconds to the system getting its mind back together21:20
indoorcati rebooted and it went upside down again21:20
indoorcati fixed it but the mouse is upsidedown21:20
akkindoorcat: Did you see the link I posted?https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9506281/sharing-python-virtualenv-environments suggests uninstalling iio-sensor-proxy21:21
sarnoldakk: oh wow. nice find.21:21
akk(I just googled linux mouse upside down)21:21
akkThere are other hits too, but the first hit looked pretty relevant.21:21
indoorcatstill everytime I reboot I have to flip my monitor, think I need a fresh install21:22
sarnoldtry this: sudo apt remove iio-sensor-proxy21:23
chris11my python venv is screwy. which pip/pip3 points towards the venv but pip install doesn't install the library in the venv. Do I need any python env variables set?21:24
tomreyn/join #python21:25
akkI've had that problem too, where sometimes it installs in ~/.local or somewhere, but I don't know the solution.21:26
akkSometimes I think I should just chmod 000 ~/.local so programs will stop putting stuff there that shouldn't be.21:27
indoorcat_sarnold you there? are my private messages not working? nobody is messaging me back21:35
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akkMany people consider PMs rude if you don't know someone, and won't answer. (I don't know if this channel has a policy on that.)21:36
sarnoldindoorcat_: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8a99873b/21:37
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ubottuindoorcat_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.21:37
chris11yeah, placing my venv in ~/ worked, so I think I'm just going to not share it.21:38
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Phruiswhat system does linux use to save the system state when putting the computer into hibernation?22:01
pragmaticenigmaPhruis, suspend-to-disk saves the working state to a single file on the primary disk. Or could you be more specific about what you mean by "system" ?22:17
Phruispragmaticenigma, i was curious to see the code22:20
pragmaticenigmaPhruis, That's not something that could be answered in a support channel. You might want to check out the development channel: #ubuntu-devel22:22
Phruispragmaticenigma, thanks22:23
MxMaxPhruis, that sounds like responsibility of the kernel, maybe take a look at linux source code? looks like hibernate.c is taking care of hibernation22:50
MxMaxPhruis, https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/kernel/power/hibernate.c22:50
PhruisMxMax thanks23:17

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