[00:32] <esotericnonsense> hello. does anyone have wifi working on 19.10 server on rpi4/
[00:32] <esotericnonsense> I added it to network-config on the first partition before first boot, cloud init seems to see it, but the interface doesn't go up
[00:33] <sarnold> esotericnonsense: check your dmesg; I haven't gotten wifi working on my rpi3b or rpi3b+ yet, loads of errors in dmesg
[00:35] <esotericnonsense> i have no errors, but wondering if perhaps the firmware is too old, Mar 1 2015 in dmesg
[00:35] <esotericnonsense> I'll reboot into arch and see what I get there
[00:36] <esotericnonsense> (I also tried manual wrangling with wpa_supplicant and it doesn't seem to be able to scan or really do anything)
[00:37] <esotericnonsense> right, on arch it's Feb 27 2018. so perhaps I need to update the firmware.
[00:39] <sarnold> esotericnonsense: is the NIC connected over usb? https://ubuntu.com/blog/roadmap-for-official-support-for-the-raspberry-pi-4
[00:41] <esotericnonsense> sarnold: it is, but I limited ram to 3072
[00:41] <esotericnonsense> at least, that fixed the keyboard support
[00:42] <sarnold> esotericnonsense: aha. bugger. I was hoping for an easy guess. :)
[00:42] <esotericnonsense> the device appears, is recognised, etc, I think somehow the wrong FW is being used (looks like the image has the fw)
[00:42] <esotericnonsense> I was hoping that copying over new FW would fix it, but it's all there. more yak shaving required to figure out how the kernel determines which fw to use
[00:42] <sarnold> it could be the wrong firmware though, at least that seems to be a problem for rpi3 :/
[00:42] <sarnold> by filename
[00:43] <esotericnonsense> hm, same hash on brcmfmac43455-sdio.bin on both distros
[00:44] <esotericnonsense> brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,3-model-b-plus.txt is also identical; but Ubuntu has this additional brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.txt
[00:45] <esotericnonsense> ah great actually I still have access to dmesg in /var/log after reboot
[00:45] <sarnold> .txt?
[00:46] <esotericnonsense> # NVRAM config file for the BCM43455 WiFi/BT chip as found on the # Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+
[00:47] <sarnold> interesting I didn't realize there was configs in .txts
[00:49] <esotericnonsense> https://files.esotericnonsense.com/pub/ubuntu-arch-rpi4-wifi.txt
[00:49] <esotericnonsense> i don't understand this given that the files have the same sha256sum
[00:50] <sarnold> me neither
[00:50] <esotericnonsense> i might try removing this rpi4 file and see what happens
[00:50] <sarnold> are they in the initramfs? I'd hope that we'd have pivoted away from initramfs by 15s but maybe not..?
[00:50] <esotericnonsense> hmmm
[00:50] <esotericnonsense> good point
[00:53] <esotericnonsense> just extracted the initrd and I don't see any *brcm* in it
[00:53] <sarnold> dang :( this is not my day.
[00:56] <FaTaL_G> I use brcm card on 18.04, with kernel 5.0.0.32
[00:58] <FaTaL_G> want the link that I used, see if it gives any help???
[00:59] <esotericnonsense> just going to try removing the clm blob and the rpi4 file so that the contents of linux-firmware are identical for both arch and ubuntu
[00:59] <esotericnonsense> (well, the brcmfmac43455-sdio bits anyway)
[00:59] <FaTaL_G> esotericnonsense, no idea if this would help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[01:02] <esotericnonsense> aha, now I have a different error 'Direct firmware load for ...,4-model-b.txt (not on the box atm) failed with error'
[01:02] <esotericnonsense> so it somehow knows to use that file perhaps from a database somewhere even though I've removed it
[01:07] <OerHeks> https://jamesachambers.com/raspberry-pi-ubuntu-server-18-04-2-installation-guide/
[01:07] <OerHeks> The current non-free Raspberry Pi firmware had the wrong bootflags3 for quite a while for the Raspberry Pi 4 and these firmware files are definitely out there. Here is a one liner I wrote to replace the Raspberry Pi 3 boot flags in this driver with the Raspberry Pi 4 one:  sudo sed -i "s:0x48200100:0x44200100:g" /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac43455-sdio.txt
[01:08] <OerHeks> and more tips on that page
[01:12] <esotericnonsense> that's already in the 19.10 txt
[01:13] <esotericnonsense> i'm fairly sure it's this weirdness with the firmware itself being older
[01:15] <yotux> Issue there a know issue of GPG not working with Libreoffice
[01:18] <OerHeks> yotux, what version? apt/snap or ppa ?
[01:18] <yotux> using app new install of 19.10
[01:18] <yotux> sorry apt
[01:19] <OerHeks> oke, there was an issue with snaps, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1772683 but that does not apply
[01:20] <yotux> I came form Arch and it works also test manjaro and it works there.  I have used my gpg key for document encryption
[01:20] <yotux> OerHeks: think a manual compile would help?
[01:21] <esotericnonsense> aha
[01:21] <esotericnonsense> there's an 'updates' folder on arch, I think
[01:21] <OerHeks> i find no issues for eoan/libreoffice 1:6.3.2-0ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice
[01:22] <yotux> esotericnonsense: I looked at the verison for both and they both have 6.3.2.2
[01:23] <esotericnonsense> yes hang on, let me paste it once I get the other box online
[01:23] <esotericnonsense> no ethernet :P
[01:23] <yotux> OerHeks: would you suggest a bug report?
[01:24] <OerHeks> yotux, sure you can, though i am still on 18.04 and see no issue with gpg
[01:25] <yotux> OerHeks: wonder if it a problem with the newer gnome
[01:26] <esotericnonsense> right
[01:26] <esotericnonsense> /usr/lib/firmware/updates/brcm/brcmfmac43430-sdio.bin is owned by firmware-raspberrypi 6-1
[01:26] <esotericnonsense> it's this thing, which is newer than the one in ubuntu, this 'updates' folder doesn't even exist there
[01:28] <esotericnonsense> looks like potentially files from https://github.com/RPi-Distro/firmware-nonfree/tree/master/brcm
[01:28] <esotericnonsense> love me a good binary blob in the evening, let's see
[01:31] <yotux> OerHeks:  I have attached a picture of what I see for the GPG key https://imagebin.ca/v/50otIhdI269E
[01:32] <tomreyn> esotericnonsense: i assume you started here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi#WiFi
[01:32] <esotericnonsense> got me an IP!
[01:33] <sarnold> esotericnonsense: nice!
[01:33] <sarnold> esotericnonsense: please do file a bug report against the packagte that supplied the old firmware; dpkg -S /lib/firmware/....
[01:34] <esotericnonsense> sarnold: so I think the raspberrypi-firmware package on archlinuxarm is all you need
[01:34] <esotericnonsense> yeah, I'll file a report once I have this sorted
[01:34] <esotericnonsense> tomreyn: aha, that's it
[01:34] <esotericnonsense> it seems strange that the preinstalled rpi4 19.10 image doesn't already have these files
[01:35] <esotericnonsense> i suppose it's vaguely fair to assume that the server version would be using ethernet? :P
[01:35] <tomreyn> yotux: this looks the same for me on 18.04.3, no GPG keys listed on the drop-down menu. i can choose a GPG key to encrypt with on the "save" (document) dialog, though.
[01:35] <sarnold> tomreyn: oh nice link, thanks
[01:36] <yotux> tomreyn: its strange it will not allow me to select my key
[01:36] <sarnold> esotericnonsense: yeah but for my own use not having to figure out how to run a wire to this thing would be nice :)
[01:36] <esotericnonsense> sarnold: i'm personally just using this to see if I can get a desktop distro on aarch64 on 19.10
[01:36] <yotux> tomreyn: I am trying the ppa with the fresh
[01:37] <esotericnonsense> unattended-upgrades has now kicked in and it's installing linux-firmware updates, so maybe it'll even fix it? lol
[01:37] <sarnold> or overwrite your work :)
[01:39] <tomreyn> yotux: unfortunately, after selecting a gpg key on the save dialog it just closes and has not carried out encryption.
[01:40] <sarnold> tomreyn: check dmesg for apparmor denials before debugging too much further
[01:40] <yotux> tomreyn: In arch I saved the file with GPG when I try to open the file it falls to a password, said file has not password
[01:40] <tomreyn> sarnold: right, that's it
[01:42] <tomreyn> yotux: you mentioned you'Re using some PPA, though? if this is functionality you'd expect to work on ubuntu and you're using the ubuntu packages then i guess you could file a bug.
[01:43] <yotux> I tried the ppa and same issue thing some how gnome may not be passing that a gpg key is present
[01:47] <tomreyn> i'm not even sure how libreoffice accesses those keys and the listing of available keys, really. i *think* i read at some point that they use code form the enigmail project, but can't really remember, so take it with many grains of salt.
[01:49] <yotux> tomreyn: not a problem having them listed isnt that important it being able to have libreoffice call for gpg agent to unlock file
[01:50] <tomreyn> right
[01:50] <yotux> tomreyn: not sure howto proceed any ideas
[01:52] <tomreyn> yotux: well, as sarnold pointed out above there may be apparmor restrictions which prevent libreoffice from running gpg. so that's the most likely culprit, i'd say.
[01:53] <tomreyn> yotux: but i don't really have much motivation at debugging this further right now. you could file a bug report on it.
[01:53] <yotux> tomreyn:  thank you for your help I may try to grab a LTS and test that
[01:55] <tomreyn> yotux: and i did see such messages, which seem to confirm this:  audit: type=1400 audit(1572917824.623:2501): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="libreoffice-soffice//gpg" name="/home/myuser/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg" pid=27254 comm="gpg" requested_mask="w" denied_mask="w" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[02:19] <Phruis> does ubuntu load /etc/rc.local?
[02:25] <Budgii> anyone here familiar with pgp. need a little assistance.
[02:26] <Budgii> please and thank you.
[02:26] <sarnold> wow where'd you find a copy of pgp? I haven't used that in twenty years..
[02:26] <Budgii> I'm just trying to use GnuPGP
[02:26] <sarnold> aww. you got my retrohopes up. :)
[02:27] <Budgii> heh
[02:27] <sarnold> though that's probably for the best, pgp is pretty gronky by now..
[02:30] <Budgii> gronky? :P
[02:31] <sarnold> gross
[02:33] <CodeMouse92> Anyone aware of issues with the libsdl2-dev package on Disco? I can install it, but it doesn't seem to be providing the headers.
[02:34] <CodeMouse92> (As in `locate SDL.h` is returning plum nothing)
[02:36] <CodeMouse92> Ah, strike that, found it right where it was supposed to be
[02:36] <sarnold> CodeMouse92: please forgive me, but did you update the mlocate database before running locate?
[02:36] <CodeMouse92> sarnold: Ah! No, did not. How's that go?
[02:37] <sarnold> CodeMouse92: I usually just wait a day :0
[02:37] <sarnold> :)
[02:37] <CodeMouse92> haha
[02:37] <CodeMouse92> Duly noted. Know of a manual way? (TIL this exists)
[02:38] <leftyfb> CodeMouse92: sudo updatedb
[02:38] <CodeMouse92> Top rate. Thanks leftyfb and sarnold
[02:38] <leftyfb> also, look into apt-file
[02:38] <sarnold> CodeMouse92: you could run the /etc/cron.daily/mlocate script by hand, but be sure to do it from root with as boring an environment as possible
[02:39] <CodeMouse92> heheh
[02:39] <Budgii> sarnold: want to try helping me follow this guide? https://help.github.com/en/github/authenticating-to-github/generating-a-new-gpg-key
[02:39] <sarnold> Budgii: I can try, anyway :)
[02:39] <Budgii> sarnold: excellent
[02:40] <Budgii> sarnold: i've downloaded gnupgp from here, not sure how to install. https://www.gnupg.org/download/
[02:40] <Budgii> Running Linux Budgie (go figure, username)
[02:40] <sarnold> Budgii: ah skip that step, apt install gpg
[02:41] <Budgii> sarnold: got it, tried that but got stuck in another tutorial. what next?
[02:41] <Budgii> ps, i did gpg --gen-key and that's where i've gotten stuck. :)
[02:42] <sarnold> where'd you get stuck?
[02:43] <Budgii> good question. so my tutorials are telling me i can tell it what algorith, RSA,DSA, Something, expiriation date. but i believe those are outdated. Appears I have an rsa key of the sorts, from here not sure what to do.
[02:44] <Budgii> I tried the gpg --full-generate-key and wasn't recognized
[02:44] <Budgii> (as listed in github tut i sent you)
[02:45] <sarnold> try copy and pasting the entire contents of you terminal to a pastebin.. I've still got no idea where you';re stuck..
[02:45] <Budgii> sarnold: no problem, good suggestion.
[02:47] <Budgii> pastebin.com/1BzGPsWM
[02:48] <Budgii> www.pastebin.com/1BzGPsWM
[02:50] <Budgii> sarnold: i get the concept, need to gen public and private key, keep private, naturally, private. just not sure what i need to do to next. did my paste help?
[02:50] <sarnold> Budgii: yeah
[02:50] <Budgii> sarnold: would it be better if we took this to PM as to not spam #ubuntu?
[02:51] <sarnold> Budgii: I think you're almost done :) try gpg --armor --export EF7E2F23H32H5670C4E989664B3455634HD025D08
[02:52] <Budgii> 'warning! nothing exported"
[02:53] <Budgii> sarnold: oops, missed a char on copy.
[02:53] <Budgii> i have a public key now.
[02:53] <Budgii> :)
[02:53] <sarnold> AHA yay :)
[02:53] <sarnold> I was having trouble figuring out where to go next, heh
[02:54] <Budgii> sarnold: thank you!
[02:54] <sarnold> Budgii: you're welcome, but you were basically done :) hehe
[02:54] <Budgii> What do we do next to try a test message?
[02:54] <Budgii> I got about this far on another os about an hour ago but then started scratching my head. :P
[02:57] <sarnold> Budgii: you could try a few operations like signing a file; cd /tmp ; cp /etc/passwd . ; gpg --armor --sign passwd ; ls -l passwd* ; file passwd*
[02:58] <sarnold> Budgii: then encrypt, gpg --armor --encrypt -r EF7E2F23H32H5670C4E989664B3455634HD025D08 passwd ; file passwd*
[02:59] <Budgii> sarnold: where " passwd* " = local pass || create a pass?
[03:00] <sarnold> Budgii: passwd is just a handy file from /etc that I use when I need a file with something in it but don't really care what it is :)
[03:00] <sarnold> it all fits on one terminal window, so it's handy to see what operatoins do to it
[03:01] <Budgii> sarnold: so a 'copy and paste' of that (literal) would be instruction, no variable data intended?
[03:01] <Budgii_> i've joined on this machine that i'm working on.
[03:02] <sarnold> Budgii: yeah :)
[03:03] <sarnold> Budgii: feel free to use any opther file of your choosing; I just like /etc/passwd because it's short, simple, familiar, and on every system
[03:06] <Budgii> sarnold: made it through your 2 step instruction. it's asking me if i'd like to overwiret epasswd.asc,
[03:06] <sarnold> Budgii: yeah that's fine
[03:07] <Budgii> sarnold: mind if we take this into a pm?
[03:07] <sarnold> sure
[03:07] <Budgii> thanks
[03:21] <ironpill_> hi all, I have two interfaces (A, B) - A is the primary interface and receives ip address via dhcp. B is the secondary interface and has a public ip address (from my isp). How can I ssh into the machine via interface B?
[03:23] <sarnold> I'd expect it to work with ssh to your IP address, or a hostname that resolves ot that address
[03:24] <ironpill_> I am not able to ssh using my ip address. ssh ironp@72.11.21.11
[03:25] <sarnold> I don't get any response when I try to contact that host, port -- do you have a firewall on it that DROPs packets? does your ISP have a firewall on it that DROPs packets?
[03:33] <ironpill_> sarnold: so if I disable the default route, which is interface A, I can ssh into the machine via interface B.
[03:34] <sarnold> aha, cool :)
[03:34] <ironpill_> can I have two default routes, each with it's own (i guess) routing - not sure how to word it.
[03:34] <ironpill_> I want both of them to exists.
[03:35] <ironpill_> if interface A route is down, interface B route does not work. I want them to be independent - even if interface A is down, interface B keeps functioning.
[03:36] <sarnold> default route is a route used if a packet is destined for a machine that isn't directly listed in the routing table
[03:37] <sarnold> you may or may not need one depending upon the rest of your network config
[03:38] <ironpill_> oh i see
[03:47] <drews> Hi #Ubuntu :)
[06:55] <mezan> Is anobody knows how to remove the timestamp (and only that information, not the content) from a PDF annotation?
[07:10] <coolchris> hello how can I automatically login to the Linux terminal on bootup and run a bash script
[07:10] <coolchris> i want to start cmus on bootup
[07:11] <ayew> some DEs have a functionality built into the GUI
[07:11] <ayew> or you could put the script in /etc/init.d
[07:12] <ayew> for instance, i know Plasma has a graphical option to autostart bash scripts on boot
[07:13] <coolchris> i planning on running ins console only
[07:13] <coolchris> no gui
[07:13] <ayew> or you could use crontab with the syntax "@reboot /path/to/script.sh"
[07:13] <coolchris> i think i found it thanks though
[07:13] <coolchris> ok thank you
[07:47] <ayaka> I have set up a nfs server, but none of client even the local can mount it, the error in client side is  NFS reply fsinfo: -116
[07:47] <ayaka> the full log can be found at paste.ubuntu.com/p/GhXp2dvTK7
[08:07] <tarzeau> ayaka: have you tried exportfs -rv on the server? is there a running nfsd process on there?
[08:07] <tarzeau> what filesystem is it that you export?
[08:08] <tarzeau> what's your mount command on the client?
[08:08] <tarzeau> nfs2? 3? 4?
[08:08] <tarzeau> got a firewall?
[08:16] <jarnos> I wonder, if CVE-2019-13720 and CVE-2019-13721 are present in chromium-browser, and not just (old) google-chrome-stable?
[08:24] <mexx> hello, in 19.10, how are dynamic ipv4 addresses obtained? My computer was using isc dhclient but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore, or at least, it's not reading /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[08:27] <brendanwilding> Hi! Would anyone be able to help me with an issue I am having with systemd? I have a service that executes a script.sh that runs nodemon. The script runs fine in a terminal and starts nodemon, but the service throws the error nod/join #ubuntuemon: command not found. Any ideas? Ubuntu 18.04
[08:28] <brendanwilding> Sorry the error is nodemon: command not found, despite nodemon running fine from a terminal
[08:29] <nagerst> is this channel more active than #kubuntu or #kde-neon? One response in 22 hours
[08:30] <nagerst> Problem is i want to run kubuntu poetteringware free. I have gotten all of it to work except KDE.
[08:31] <nagerst> and that is only because removing gtk from kubuntu removes all of kde
[08:31] <nagerst>  Why does kde depend on GTK?
[08:31] <zamba> desktop system.. i have lots of I/O wait.. how do i debug that?
[08:32] <zamba> with "lots" i mean between 10 and 50% when idle
[08:32] <nagerst> in debian i can get it working
[08:32] <zamba> seems like i just have a terribly slow disk
[08:32] <nagerst> noswap?
[08:33] <zamba> nagerst: i have swap, yes
[08:34] <nagerst> could you check disk  for error
[08:34] <nagerst> what filesystem?
[08:35] <nagerst> and may í ask what kind of disk you are using
[08:38] <nagerst> This might sound counerintuitive, bu do you have lots of usb devices. They tend to initialize improperly in linux post 4.3 (as in they get the order wrong) and load external usb storade up before important devices.
[08:43] <ayaka> tarzeau: both client and server are xenial, I think it will use nfsv4
[08:44] <ayaka> and exportfs looks normal I can see [nfsd] from ps aux
[08:44] <ayaka> no firewall is enabled
[08:44] <tarzeau> mexx: systemd-networkd ? or network-manager ?
[08:44] <tarzeau> mexx: something magic, i still can't understand however
[08:44] <mexx> tarzeau: network-manager i guess
[08:44] <tarzeau> ayaka: that's so old, i don't even remember how it worked there
[08:45] <tarzeau> ayaka: lsmod |grep nfs ?
[08:46] <ayaka> tarzeau: yes, nfsv3, nfsv4 nfsd, nfs_acl is there
[08:47] <ayaka> those exported mount point are xfs filesystem on lvm
[08:48] <tarzeau> that's what i have as well, and it just works
[09:03] <mexx> ok, it's network-manager and I set additional search domains with nmcli
[09:25] <Fudge> anyone successfully gotten ubuntu booting on a lenovo thinkcentre 510s, not a laptop a small desktop.
[09:25] <Habbie> Fudge, did you try?
[09:26] <Fudge> of course, have been for several days
[09:26] <Fudge> Habbie:  first with 1910 then focal, sound wasnt working then network then sound did work, only could boot with nomodeset kernel parem
[09:27] <Habbie> Fudge, ah
[09:28] <Fudge> it's a difficult process for me Habbie  as i am blind, ive never had such difficult issues booting linux, this is a brand new computer. prob half the problem
[09:29] <Fudge> going to try 18.04
[09:39] <Fudge> well 1804 booted fine, seeing how it goes after install
[09:40] <tsaka__>  I'm trying to copy a file with SCP from my fedora30 box to my ubuntu16.04 box
[09:40] <tsaka__> I get: SSH protocol v.1 is no longer supported
[09:40] <brendantcc> Curious, how much of a pain in the butt would it be to upgrade from Ubuntu 18.04.x to Ubuntu 20.04 when it releases?
[09:41] <vlt> brendantcc: Usually not that much.
[09:41] <brendantcc> What are we talking, installing the new ISO, or will the Software Updater know what it's doing?
[09:43] <vlt> brendantcc: For 14.04 to 16.04 and then to 18.04 I used the CLI tools around apt.
[09:43] <brendantcc> Oooo nice
[09:43] <brendantcc> Wait a sec...
[09:44] <brendantcc> Ubuntu was launched in Oct. 2004 right?
[09:44] <brendantcc> That means it's about my age! :D
[09:44] <brendantcc> I'll stop now so I don't get in trouble for offtopic.
[09:45] <ThinkT510> brendantcc: a backup is always prudent before you undertake a upgrade from one version to another, just something to keep in mind
[09:46] <IcusDicus> I tend to make my /home a separate partition, and with upgrade, I just do a clean install and set the /home partition as my /home.
[10:26] <mexx> bye
[11:15] <rcmainak> Hey, I noiced an issue.  The website for Indian LoCo team listed in this page -> https://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/indian-team/ leads to a pron site. Hopefully the link can be removed from the page.
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:32] <mgedmin> domain expired, squatters swooped in?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> wich channel should this be reported best
[11:32] <Habbie> i wonder if the page is editable if you log in
[11:32] <yeats> they're gone now, but there is a file bug link at the bottom of the page
[11:33] <yeats> "they're" = rcmainak
[11:45] <Fudge> Habbie:  all up and running now
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> bug #1851366 there, i filed it
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:17] <deemel> According to the documentation page here (https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/display-dual-monitors.html) a secondary and tertiary monitor can only be run in "join display" mode - where exactly does that come from? I remember using earlier versions with three monitors, but maybe that was with a different DE
[12:23] <brendantcc> Whelp they're not gonna get an answer
[12:34] <deemel> well this is bizarre, apparently that's not true after all. Took some fiddling but 3 displays are working independently as expected now
[12:35] <braingain> Heyo #ubuntu, can you tell me whats the default network manager in 18.04.3 LTS? I found some /etc/netplan stuff but no netplan command or package installed
[12:35] <braingain> also there is /etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init stuff, whats thatt?
[12:37] <mgedmin> 18.04 LTS desktop uses NetworkManager by default; server I believe uses netplan by default
[12:37] <Tuor> braingain: if you run a graphical environment, you still have network-manager, on servers it's netplan (it replaces /etc/network/interfaces)
[12:37] <mgedmin> the netplan package is netplan.io
[12:37] <braingain> Im just confused why there is no netplan package installed
[12:38] <mgedmin> (the netplan package is some old unrelated thing)
[12:38]  * mgedmin realizes that's not very clear
[12:38] <mgedmin> the 'netplan' package is some old unrelated thing; the 'netplan.io' package is the netplan thing used for network configuration
[12:38] <braingain> i have neither netplan or netplan.io installed as packages
[12:39] <mgedmin> aren't naming clashes fun!  i remember when apt install chromium would install some X11 game
[12:39] <braingain> chromium the shooter :)
[12:39] <Tuor> braingain: it's confusing but this is the package which is probably installed: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/netplan.io
[12:40] <braingain> There is no netplan.io package installed right now. systemd shows a networking.service but no netplan-whatever-service
[12:40] <mgedmin> speaking of /etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init, just from the name I'd guess it was created by cloud-init?  which was a thing for doing initial setup in cloud images
[12:40] <braingain> Im kinda confused how this system is even working and online and i dont want to break it :D
[12:40] <mgedmin> netplan is not a service, is a configuration file generator that takes config files in /etc/netplan and writes new config files for systemd-networkd OR network-manager
[12:40] <braingain> is it safe to overwrite cloud-init files?
[12:41] <mgedmin> (I don't quite understand why it is necessary, or how it plays along with cloud-init)
[12:41] <mgedmin> what's inside /etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init ?
[12:41] <braingain> there is some dhcp rule
[12:42] <braingain> for eth0
[12:42] <braingain> it says in the header # Changes to it will not persist across an instance.
[12:42] <braingain> brb
[12:44] <mgedmin> across an instance?  interesting phrasing
[12:44] <mgedmin> does that mean across a reboot or what?
[12:45]  * mgedmin has never used cloud-init
[12:45] <mgedmin> I suspect you'd get better advice on #ubuntu-server!
[12:45] <mystic_> get stuffed
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> !language | mystic_
[12:48] <mystic_> wat an obsufcation?
[12:57] <brendantcc> Google it
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> brendantcc: dont feed trolling please
[12:57] <brendantcc> I was just about to give them a Google link but ok
[12:58] <brendantcc> I probably should've scrolled back
[13:02] <brendantcc> Oof, completely out of the blue
[13:11] <braingain> migrated to #ubuntu-server, thank you guys!
[13:51] <indoorcat> hey
[13:51] <indoorcat> i noticed my fans in my laptop have been running more
[13:52] <indoorcat> and I just stream a lot
[13:52] <indoorcat> barely play games,     sorry for not typing full paragraphs
[13:52] <pragmaticenigma> You might want to make sure that your vents on your laptop and the heat sinks are clear of any dust and/or animal fur
[13:53] <indoorcat> take it apart? and blow it clean? I was considering upgrading to a ssd and more ram im only 8gb
[13:54] <tatertots> indoorcat: fans running more compared to when or what?...ideally you'd have a baseline or control group for a comparison
[13:54] <pragmaticenigma> indoorcat: If all you do is stream video, there is no reason for those upgrades. That is more than enough for what you are primarily using your computer for
[13:55] <pragmaticenigma> rather, what you have is more than enough to stream videos
[13:55] <indoorcat> i use it for what i use it for and it used to run silent and now it doesn't
[13:55] <indoorcat> computer is a little over a year old
[13:55] <indoorcat> ill clean it
[13:55] <mgedmin> you don't need a reason to upgrade to an SSD, SSDs are awesome
[13:56] <indoorcat> i'm trying to pay off a credit card
[13:56] <tatertots> indoorcat: so adding a ssd or more memory has an impact on "thermal" heat dissipation???...interesting logic you have there..but okay
[13:56] <pragmaticenigma> indoorcat: From what you have said, so far it really sounds like it could use a good cleaning. Which is the most budget friendly option to start with.
[13:57] <mgedmin> not when I do it!  I once disassembled my lappy to clean out the fan, and when I put it back the keyboard was bulging very untidily
[13:57] <indoorcat> and then i'm going to give lambda bootcamp a try though im not thrilled about 17% of income for 2 years but if I don't find a job I don't have to pay them if i understand corectly
[13:58] <indoorcat> I don't really enjoy the keyboard, rather have a desktop pc , it feels different
[13:58] <indoorcat> once I pay of a keyboard maybe ill invest in a system 76
[13:59] <tatertots> indoorcat: at some point one of the mods/ops will remind you that what you are on about is NOT ubuntu related, and or off topic
[13:59] <indoorcat> or something
[13:59] <indoorcat> pay off the credit i mean
[13:59] <indoorcat> pay off the credit i mean?
[14:00] <indoorcat> do you reccomend system 76 pc's?
[14:00] <pragmaticenigma> indoorcat: let's try and keep focus on the support aspect. Your personal finances are not something we're here to help with. We are also not able to offer recommendations. If you want to ask for other's opinions, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:00] <indoorcat> ok
[14:01] <indoorcat> ubuntu is my go to distro right now
[14:01] <indoorcat> i don't like how the app bar locks off screen on pop os
[14:16] <brendantcc> indoorcat's doing upgrady things just cause™
[14:44] <diverdude> Hi...i am using rsync to merge 2 folders. I made a mistake because i forgot to enable screen. What happens if i just cancel the rsync job using CTRL-C? Will i potentially loose any files/data?
[14:46] <akk> diverdude: You can restart the rsync later and it will start from where it left off. But until you do that you could lose data, e.g. if you're using --delete and some files moved.
[14:47] <akk> Or maybe partially written files, I've never been clear about that.
[14:56] <Intelo> suddenly my disk is full. How do I find which place has most files
[14:56] <Intelo> so I delete them\\
[14:57] <lordcirth_> Intelo, if you can get a tiny bit of space, you can install 'ncdu'
[14:57] <lordcirth_> If not, 'du' is already installed
[14:57] <mgedmin> baobab is a gui visualizer that shows which directories take up most space
[14:58] <mgedmin> often a quick way to free a little space (so you have enough to apt install tools) is to run sudo apt clean
[14:58] <mgedmin> to wipe apt's caches
[14:58] <lordcirth_> Yeah, good point, do apt clean
[15:00] <akk> Another vote for ncdu.
[15:02] <mgedmin> there's also duc which is very versatile (command-line/curses/gui) but a bit more annoying to use (separate index step that creates an sqlite db used by those other cmdline/ncurses/gui browsing subcommands)
[15:02] <Intelo> thanks
[15:04] <Ecko_> Yet another vote for ncdu
[15:14] <mati> Hi, I'm looking for a good password manager with strong encryption for Linux and Android. Could you recommend me some?
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> mati: For software recommendations, please ask your question in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:16] <mati> pragmaticenigma: Didn't know this channel existed, thanks for info
[15:17] <mystic_> wats difference between a paswword manfe and an encryptor
[15:17] <mystic_> manager*
[15:17] <Ecko_> Preferably nothing
[15:17] <Ecko_> You would definitely want your password manager to encrypt it's database
[15:18] <mystic_> hmm
[15:19] <mati> Ecko_: that's why I emphasized "strong encryption". I've seen that KeePassXC uses 256bit AES. Doesn't sound strong enough compared to GPG's 2048bit. I've also considered just pasting the password into a text file and encrypting it with GPG. Some people told me that it's not as good as password managers, though
[15:19] <mystic_> wats the ideal running temperature for ubuntu ?
[15:20] <Cheez> mati: you really want to keep passwords out of the clipboard if you can
[15:20] <Cheez> most password managers (including keepassxc) try and avoid it
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> mati: Those are different encryption ciphers... the bit count does not necessarily represent strength
[15:20] <Cheez> and yes, aes256 vs 2048gpg are very differe
[15:21] <mati> Cheez: what do you think about keepassxc? Are there any better alternatives?
[15:21] <Ecko_> AES256 is still considered strong and uncrackable, as long as you use a good master password
[15:21] <pragmaticenigma> mystic_: Ubuntu has no preferred running temperature. Temperature is a specification of your hardware, you will have to consult your user manual for your computer or contact the manufacturer
[15:22] <tatertots> mystic_: "hardware" is designed with a operating "threshold", a CPU, GPU or north/south bridge on the motherboard has a "thermal threshold"...on the other hand "software" applications and or OS's are just that..."software"
[15:23] <mystic_> hmm
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> mati: Only you can determine what works best for your needs. This is why I asked you to take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel focuses on support of applications that are currently installed where you are encountering errors. It's up to you do to your own research, and use appropriate forums for questions.
[15:24] <mati> pragmaticenigma: right, thanks anyway
[15:24] <tatertots> mystic_: the temperature at which your CPU, GPU or motherboards north/south bridge would reach "thermal failure" is the same no matter if you're using Windows xp/vista/7/8/10 or even Linux
[15:24] <Cheez> mati: i'm a long term user of keepassxc
[15:24] <Cheez> i like it
[15:24] <Cheez> oh, they left
[15:24] <mystic_> linux keeps it cooler than windows?  in general ?
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> Cheez: They hopefully have moved over to #ubuntu-offtopic, you might catch them there.
[15:25] <Cheez> mystic_: it depends entirely on load, not on os.
[15:25] <tatertots> mystic_: water boils at 132 degrees on a gas or electric stove top
[15:25] <tatertots> mystic_: hope you understand
[15:25] <mystic_> now now tater
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> mystic_: these are not support related questions. An operating system has little impact on the operating temperature of your computer. What you do with the computer, the applications you are running have greater impact
[15:26] <mystic_> im asking is lunix generally a coller running os
[15:26] <Cheez> pragmaticenigma: i keep thinking that's where i am. >_>
[15:34] <tatertots> mystic_: your computer is not a 1:1 replica of everyone else's, and your use case and or work load is not a 1:1 replica of others...ideally you'd perform your own tests or analysis to determine for your self if OS "A" runs cooler on your system than OS "B"
[15:36] <mystic_> which one is os 'a' ?
[15:36] <tatertots> lol
[15:36] <tatertots> poor thing
[15:38] <mystic_> performs poorly? which one
[15:45] <nicrodgers> Any ideas on how to debug this kind of erorr when I run apt-get install or apt-get update? Seems to be some sort of random network failure. If I re-run the command several times then either another file will fail, or it will eventually work:  E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/bsdutils_2.31.1-0.4ubuntu3.4_amd64.deb  Undetermined Error [IP: 91.189.88.176 80]
[15:45] <nicrodgers> E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/systemd/libsystemd0_237-3ubuntu10.31_amd64.deb  Undetermined Error [IP: 91.189.88.176 80]
[15:49] <BluesKaj> nicrodgers, perhaps a different repos source just to check?
[15:50] <nicrodgers> BluesKaj: thanks for the suggestion, how would I do that?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> in your package manager software sources
[15:54] <nicrodgers> BluesKaj: do you mean edit my  /etc/apt/sources.list ? in which case, what would I edit?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> no, just temporarily change the server in synaptic or whatever package manager you use
[15:56] <mgedmin> although it ends up being the same thing, updating /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:56] <mgedmin> nicrodgers: there are country mirrors at XX.archive.ubuntu.com for every country code, I think
[15:57] <mgedmin> e.g. http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/  etc
[16:02] <nicrodgers> thanks, i'll give that a go
[16:03] <nicrodgers> same thing :( default: Failed to fetch http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-backports/InRelease  Undetermined Error [IP: 91.189.91.26 80]
[16:03] <BluesKaj> nicrodgers,  package manager>settings>sources or some such
[16:03] <nicrodgers> if I curl or wget that same from the box, it works.
[16:05] <mgedmin> are you using a proxy?
[16:06] <nicrodgers> no. It's a box running under vagrant if that makes any difference. I get the same error on multiple computers in different places/different networks
[16:07] <lordcirth_> nicrodgers, These are fresh installs of Ubuntu 18.04?
[16:08] <nicrodgers> lordcirth_: I'm using the vagrant box ubuntu/bionic64
[16:09] <nicrodgers> ..which apparently is the official 18.04 LTS build
[16:09] <mgedmin> googling "undetermined error apt" leads to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1801338, which is unlikely to be the problem here
[16:09] <mgedmin> (unless you have a transparent proxy in your network or something)
[16:09] <lordcirth_> nicrodgers, it's the official canonical build, but hashicorp doesn't recommend them. Could you try  hashicorp/bionic64?
[16:10] <lordcirth_> If that works, then maybe we can track it down
[16:11] <nicrodgers> same thing with hashicorp/bionic64.   I even tried installing Ubunttu 18.04 in Vmware (completely seperate from vagrant) and get the same errors there too (!)
[16:13] <lordcirth_> nicrodgers, and you said you can wget the InRelease file fine on those same VMs?
[16:13] <nicrodgers> lordcirth_: yep, it's so weird
[16:14] <nicrodgers> it's not always the InRelease file that fails mind, sometimes it works, it seems to just randomly fail on certain requests
[16:14] <nicrodgers> eg     default: E: Failed to fetch http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/harfbuzz/gir1.2-harfbuzz-0.0_1.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb  Undetermined Error [IP: 91.189.88.173 80]
[16:14] <nicrodgers>     default: E: Failed to fetch http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/liba/libalgorithm-diff-perl/libalgorithm-diff-perl_1.19.03-1_all.deb  Undetermined Error [IP: 91.189.88.173 80]
[16:14] <wtfiirc> Hello
[16:15] <lordcirth_> nicrodgers, please use a pastebin for large amounts of text
[16:15] <lordcirth_> wtfiirc, hi
[16:15] <wtfiirc> Well, I am new to IRC such an old th
[16:16] <wtfiirc> ing
[16:17] <wtfiirc> There is even restrictions on length of sentences, whi
[16:18] <lordcirth_> wtfiirc, not that short, there isn't.
[16:18] <lordcirth_> Unless your IRC client is very strange
[16:18] <wtfiirc> I will keep learning more about it😂
[16:18] <lordcirth_> wtfiirc, this channel is for Ubuntu support. If you'd like to chat, do "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[16:19] <nicrodgers> is there any way to get more verbose/debug-style output from apt-get? maybe that'd help me track down my issue
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> nicrodgers: pastebin like lordcirth_ adviced, and let the volunteers take a look?
[16:20] <wtfiirc> Well, the client I am using is Igloo on iOS
[16:20] <mystic> I booked someone to sort out linux for me
[16:20] <nicrodgers> lotuspsychje: I thought he was telling me off for pasting those two lines ! :)
[16:20] <mystic> Mr Brownsword will be round this evening
[16:20] <wtfiirc> Sorry, I will keep in silence
[16:21] <ioria> nicrodgers, man apt-conf (debug options)  ; e.g.   :  sudo apt-get -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> mystic: only ubuntu issues, or keep silent please
[16:21] <ioria> *man apt.conf
[16:21] <nicrodgers> ioria: cheers.
[16:21] <ioria> ok
[16:21] <mystic> hows that not ubuntu issue?  Mt Brownsword will specifically focus on ubuntu
[16:21] <mystic> nevermind...
[16:29] <kaniki2> Hi guys, I want to try pes 2019 (game ) on ubuntu but it is not available for linux its available only for windows I think and Playstation 4 or 3
[16:29] <kaniki2> how to play games on ubuntu (specially the windows games (like pes or gta V or ...)
[16:30] <lordcirth_> kaniki2, install Wine or PlayOnLinux, or Steam.
[16:31] <danslo> After installing eoan, I can no longer have mysql-server (and a couple other packages) installed while wine is installed. Anyone seen this issue before? If I try to install wine it'll tell me: The following packages will be REMOVED:  mysql-client-8.0 mysql-client-core-8.0 mysql-server mysql-server-8.0 mysql-server-core-8.0 php7.1-cli php7.1-fpm
[16:31] <danslo> php7.2-cli php7.2-fpm transmission-gtk
[16:31] <kaniki2> I have wine but I want to know if the hardcore games like GTA V that needs graphic card bigger is it going to work for me
[16:32] <nicrodgers> lordcirth_: here's a pastebin with all the output https://pastebin.com/hcDP4JzD  and I have put apt-get in to debug mode
[16:33] <lordcirth_> nicrodgers, does it always fail on libfftw3?
[16:33] <nicrodgers> i'll do a vagrant destroy and try it again... one sec
[16:34] <kaniki2> does playonlinux work for games that needs invidia as graphic card (big games like gTa V) ?
[16:34] <mgedmin> danslo: when apt gives me weird conflict resolutions I try to force the issue by trying to install both packages so apt will tell me where the conflict is
[16:34] <Gusj> hi, I am trying to compile a module that apparently fixes acpi problems on toshiba laptops, (problem with internal keyboard and trackpad on toshiba satellite) When I do 'sudo make install' I get the following errors [16:34] <mgedmin> danslo: eg. apt install wine mysql-server
[16:34] <mgedmin> danslo: fwiw I'm on disco and I have wine installed and apt install mysql-server doesn't try to remove anything
[16:35] <danslo> mgedmin: wow uhh... that just installed it without problems. thanks I guess haha
[16:36] <nicrodgers> lordcirth_: nope. Different files this time: https://pastebin.com/SrPM05bv
[16:36] <danslo> oh nevermind, wine installed fine but it didn't install wine32 which had the conflict. I'll do some more digging
[16:36] <lordcirth_> nicrodgers, I suspect some kind of rate-limiting or network overload?
[16:37] <nicrodgers> lordcirth_: yeh I know what you mean. Weird thing is that this has been working fine for 5 devs for a couple of months, it has only become problematic a few weeks ago. Now we all have the same issue, even on different computers in different physical locations
[16:38] <mgedmin> danslo: looks like I've got wine32 installed here too; so maybe upgrade to disco?
[16:39] <ioria> nicrodgers, some proxy settings ?
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: we dont really support own compiling here
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: instead try to get a solution with the volunteers or consider filing a new !bug
[16:40] <nicrodgers> nope, no proxy.   We're all on Mac OS.. some Mojave, some Catalina, some Sierra... actually the only thing i can think of that's common to everyone is we all have the same anti-virus running on macos.. maybe that's interfering somehow.. I'll try disabling that
[16:40] <mystic> what is a hudsucker proxy?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> a movie
[16:41] <BluesKaj> or book
[16:41] <mystic> wat does it mean
[16:42] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: thank you, have been wrestling with this laptop and xubuntu seeing but not configuring correctly internal keyboard, volunteers do you mean other ppl on this channel? already did, wanted to be proactive as this has  proven to fix these acpi problems, it allows for extended support even more than the acpi_toshiba module that got installed by default offers..
[16:42] <BluesKaj> use google to find out
[16:42] <mystic> i prefer u to tell me in laymans terms
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: if something doesnt work by default on ubuntu, please consider creating a new bug, so developers know about it, and can do something about it
[16:43] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: YEs I already filled a bug, but this is for an old laptop, I don't think they will do anything about it..
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: whats the bug ID please?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> mystic, you have to learn some things on your own, your prerence don't hold any water here unless it's about ubuntu
[16:45] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: Bug #1845982
[16:45] <BluesKaj> preference even
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: thank you, is your bios up to date please?
[16:46] <mystic> ok then.. i want a working usb iso write on linux.. that can wrote other iso apart from ubuntu
[16:46] <mystic> gui system
[16:46] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: Yes i upgraded to 1.40 there is one 1.50 but that is up ont oshiba websit by mistake when I tried it said wrong version, so the latest is 1.40
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: did you try a latest !mainline kernel yet?
[16:47] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: Tomreyn and TJ- have helped me alot trying to fix this, have learned alot, that is why this omnibook proves to be a solution,
[16:49] <tomreyn> and i came to the conclusion that Gusj should really just sell this hardware and replace it by another one.
[16:49] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: not sure, I had xubuntu 18.04  upgrade to 19.04 and now I upgraded to 19.10 which is what io have right now
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: the hardware was faulty?
[16:49] <Gusj> tomreyn: haha hi tom yes yes I know, although I have learned a lot from all of this.. a crash course of learning
[16:49] <BluesKaj> mystic, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/how-to-install-etcher-on-ubuntu
[16:49] <tomreyn> i don't think so, but it is specific in that it does not play well with linux
[16:50] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: ^
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> ah i see
[16:50] <nicrodgers> ioria / lordcirth_ : thanks for taking the time to talk it through with me. You made me realise that we were all running the same AntiVirus package on the host. Disabling that has fixed the problem. Happy to report it's nothing to do with Ubuntu at all. thanks again.
[16:51] <ioria> nicrodgers, good to hear
[16:51] <Gusj> This package is intended to provide Linux kernel support for many laptops such as: - HP OmniBook and Pavilion - Toshiba Satellite and Tecra which are not supported by the toshiba_acpi module
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: so you suffer this bug on all ubuntu versions correct?
[16:52] <Gusj> I already have the toshiba_acpi module, it got installed automatically with xubuntu, I was following along these instructions to install it: http://jpcozar-public.wikidot.com/bluetooth-en-laptop-toshiba-satellite-usando-modulo-omnibook  but got erros i did not understand..
[16:53] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: yes, 16.04, 18.04, 19.04, 19.10
[16:53] <mystic> i tried etcher
[16:53] <mystic> id wouldnt even start properly
[16:54] <mystic> so there is no decent gui then.. ok
[16:55] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: that is why after reaching high and low, and under rocks, I found omnibook but I do not know how to install it, I have all the .c files in the correct directory but i am stuck there
[16:55] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: this kernel module [16:59] <lotuspsychje> Gusj: we can only focus on the support of ubuntu instead of compiling, but in your case if all ubuntu versions stuck on your hardware, we can conclude what tomreyn adviced
[17:00] <Gusj> tomreyn: althought listen to this Tom, just noticed today, if I turn OFF special keys from UEFI firmware at boot, More keeys (F keys and number) give some output when I do command 'acpi_listen' crazy
[17:01] <tomreyn> Gusj: i'm not really interested in this topic, Gusj, please don't highlight me about anything related to this hardware anymore, thanks.
[17:01] <mystic> lol
[17:01] <mystic> haha
[17:01] <Gusj> understood sorry
[17:02] <mystic> tomreyn is deadpan comedy gold
[17:02] <Gusj> lotuspsychje: Got it I understand,
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> !ops | mystic returning troll in #ubuntu and ##linux
[17:03]  * dax looks up
[17:03] <mystic> me too
[17:03] <mystic> i asked a question but got no solution
[17:03] <mystic> that makes me a 'returning troll'
[17:03] <Gusj> Could someone tell me what these errors mean? [17:04] <mystic> well, theres error one and erroe two
[17:05] <dax> mystic: ban evasion is a violation of Ubuntu channel policy and freenode network policy. Do not rejoin this channel without visiting #ubuntu-ops, thanks
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> ty
[17:12] <felangga> hello, I'm having problem with my usb device
[17:12] <felangga> from the dmesg I found this error message "[  806.655797] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[17:12] <felangga> "
[17:22] <tomreyn> felangga: which ubuntu version, kernel version, what kind of device?
[17:23] <felangga> tomreyn, I'm using bionic 18.04, kernel 4.19 and just normal usb stick drive
[17:24] <felangga> I think this usb is dead, but I want to recover it if it is possible
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> felangga: 4.19 on bionic doesnt sound right
[17:26] <tomreyn> felangga: what's the output of    cat /proc/version
[17:27] <felangga> Linux version 4.19.0-041900-lowlatency (kernel@tangerine) (gcc version 8.2.0 (Ubuntu 8.2.0-7ubuntu1)) #201810221809 SMP PREEMPT Mon Oct 22 22:19:15 UTC 2018
[17:28] <tomreyn> so this kernel passed its first birthday recently, have you tried a current and supported one?
[17:31] <felangga> tomreyn, I found this article and now my computer detected as usb drive http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2008/06/26/usb-1-4-device-descriptor-read64-error-71/?fbclid=IwAR24eLrDXf9p2JIK51p9xusK1ourUkVU7fdvE_8VfxCP6ncffWC8k9xKp24
[17:31] <felangga> but it still won't to be mounted
[17:31] <tomreyn> felangga: i won't be able to support you unless you run a supported kernel. good luck!
[17:32] <felangga> which version of kernel should I try ? tomreyn
[17:32] <tomreyn> felangga: any one that comes with the ubuntu release oyu have installed.
[17:33] <tomreyn> (ideally in its latest version)
[17:34] <felangga> hmm I never changed the kernel version as I remember
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> felangga: are you using a derivative of ubuntu?
[17:35] <felangga> yes, I'm using KDE neon
[17:35] <ioria> felangga, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:36] <felangga> ioria, what this command do ?
[17:36] <ioria> felangga, lists and show us your installed (or not) kernels
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> felangga: or did you install 4.19 for some reason? like for ryzen?
[17:38] <felangga> here the result https://termbin.com/igk1
[17:38] <felangga> lotuspsychje, no, I think the kernel update was from apt-get upgrade
[17:39] <ioria> felangga, the good one is this 'linux-image-4.15.0-66-generic': reboot, enter grub -> adavnced options and select 4.16.0-66
[17:40] <ioria> felangga, oh, wait : cat /proc/cmdline
[17:40] <felangga> ioria, what if I upgrade to last version from kernel.org ?
[17:40] <ioria> felangga, to do what ?
[17:40] <felangga> version 5.3.8
[17:41] <ioria> felangga, why ?
[17:41] <felangga> ioria, does the latest the better ??
[17:41] <ioria> felangga, do you want to try to solve the usb issue or what ?
[17:42] <felangga> ioria, yes sure
[17:42] <ioria> felangga, reboot on the 415.0-66 kernel; rplug the device and paste dmesg | tail
[17:42] <felangga> ioria, why I should use the older version /
[17:42] <felangga> ?
[17:43] <felangga> this from /proc/cmdline
[17:43] <felangga> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-041900-lowlatency root=UUID=bd0a305a-81aa-4bc5-b076-192e6ae5c8fe ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[17:43] <ioria> felangga, it's not old ,is the stock one (patched and optimized for your current os)
[17:43] <felangga> ioria, ohh okay, wait I try to reboot
[17:44] <ioria> felangga, but its a power/hardware error imho
[18:13] <rana_ans> tomreyn: there?
[18:14] <rana_ans> jeremy31: there?
[18:15] <lordcirth_> rana_ans, if you have a question, just ask it
[18:15] <rana_ans> alright. I was asking for them coz they knew my problem :D
[18:16] <rana_ans> tho it is solved and Im back with windows and ubuntu is uninstalled but I need to install it again but dont want to run into any problems again
[18:17] <rana_ans> first of all when Im trying to install ubuntu keyboard and mouse dont work, keyboard works but sometimes Idk why
[18:18] <rana_ans> theres that and when I have installed ubuntu (talking about last time) I restarted it but grub doesnt show windows 10 in the menu
[18:18] <rana_ans> I had to go through alot of forums but they didnt help either
[18:18] <rana_ans> so what do you say? lordcirth_
[18:20] <rana_ans> lordcirth_: how do I fix keyboard atleast to install ubuntu?
[18:20] <rana_ans> I have asus tuf fx505
[18:21] <lordcirth_> rana_ans, When were you talking about this here before? I can look in logs and try to catch up
[18:22] <ioria> lordcirth_, 11:40   https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/11/04/%23ubuntu.txt    (sounds a long story)
[18:22] <rana_ans32> Sorry my internet got disconnected
[18:23] <lordcirth_> ioria, thanks
[18:23] <rana_ans32> yesterday, we were talking
[18:23] <ioria> lordcirth_, np
[18:23] <rana_ans32> I was getting help from tomreyn
[18:23] <lordcirth_> rana_ans32, yeah, I just got directed to it while you were gone
[18:23] <mati> I have a silly question. How does Xfce on Xubuntu start at boot? Where can I find a fire responsible for starting it? I've checked xinitrc but nothing there
[18:23] <rana_ans32> Yes thats a long story if you are talking about my problem
[18:23] <ioria> rana_ans32, in any case, i suggest nyou to start the installer with 'nomodeset'
[18:24] <rana_ans32> Idk about bios alot, could you explain
[18:24] <rana_ans32> ?
[18:25] <rana_ans32> I mean whats nomodeset? Is it somewhere in bios or windows or usb?
[18:25] <Menzador|Work> !nomodeset | rana_ans32
[18:25] <ioria> rana_ans32, when you got the main menu ,use F& and select nomodeset
[18:26] <ioria> rana_ans32, when you got the main menu ,use F6 and select nomodeset
[18:26] <lordcirth_> That *is* a long thread
[18:26] <rana_ans32> Ok lemme try that ioria
[18:27] <rana_ans32> lordcirth_ yes lol
[18:28] <rana_ans32> ioria: Theres no function under f6
[18:29] <ioria> rana_ans32, press e to edit; add nomodeset after quiet splash; enter or ctrl +x
[18:31] <rana_ans32> ioria: ok I have written nomodeset after quiet splash after pressing e on ‘install ubuntu’ option
[18:31] <rana_ans32> there are three dashes after quiet splash too, they are not a problem right?
[18:31] <ioria> rana_ans32, nope
[18:31] <rana_ans32> this is gonna fix keyboard and mouse?
[18:32] <ioria> idk
[18:32] <rana_ans32> 🙄
[18:32] <rana_ans32> it was for graphics? Lol they were already fine now they are just BIG xD
[18:33] <ioria> rana_ans32, don't worry, i will be fixed after the install
[18:33] <rana_ans32> maybe I wasnt clear with my problem, mouse and keyboard dont work while installing, although keyboard is working but mouse isnt
[18:33] <rana_ans32> ok Im gonna install ubuntu, I’ll keep you updated
[18:33] <ioria> ok
[18:35] <rana_ans32> I have windows 10 in SSD which is 128GB and I have shrinked some volume from HDD which is 1TB, shrinked volume for ubuntu is 100GB
[18:35] <rana_ans32> should I select install ubuntu along windows or select something else?
[18:36] <rana_ans32> ioria
[18:36] <ioria> rana_ans32, if you ask me ; i'd disconnect the win drive; install ubuntu, reconnect the ssd, but boot from bios from the hhd, then run sudo update-grub
[18:36] <ioria> rana_ans32, but it's my choice
[18:37] <rana_ans32> Does it require dissembling laptop?
[18:37] <ioria> rana_ans32, ho laptop....
[18:37] <swimm3r> sudo update-grub is the solution for dual boot?
[18:37] <ioria> rana_ans32, what laptop is that ?
[18:37] <rana_ans32> asus tuf fx505
[18:38] <ioria> rana_ans32, well, fallow the installer suggestions
[18:38] <ioria> *follow
[18:38] <ioria> rana_ans32, 'install ubuntu along windows' sounds right
[18:38] <rana_ans32> will it give me option to install it in specific partition that is unallocated in that option?
[18:39] <rana_ans32> or do it all on its own?
[18:40] <ioria> rana_ans32, nope, that is automatic i guess; you might need 'something else'
[18:40] <rana_ans32> Im gonna go for first option of alongside windows and merge that unallocated volume with HDD later in windows
[18:42] <rana_ans> It disconnects me if I goto home screen of phone...
[18:43] <rana_ans> ioria: Ok almost finished installing system
[18:44] <Emcy> netflix cast still broken?
[18:45] <rana_ans> Btw when are they gonna give all of ROS packages for 19.04?
[18:51] <sarnold> rana_ans: you can pop into #ubuntu-robotics and ask; I wouldn't be surprised if there's no efforts for 19.04 though, that hits EOL in less than three months
[18:54] <rana_ans> ioria: hey, I’ll come back when its installed completely and if I have any problems
[19:10] <rana_ans> ioria: ubuntu is installed and showing ubuntu and windows in grub menu but when I select ubuntu, it goes on to a black screen. Once it generated some lines and I read failed parse something
[19:11] <rana_ans> Anyone here who could help?
[19:12] <ioria> rana_ans32, use again nomodeset , check your card and in case install nvidia
[19:12] <shvm> <rana_ans "ioria: ubuntu is installed and s"> Are you seeing a underscore?
[19:12] <ioria> sorry, away from kb
[19:13] <rana_ans> I did nomodeset thats when it generated some lines
[19:13] <rana_ans> shvm: sorry didnt get you
[19:14] <rana_ans> how do I install nvidia when ubuntu isnt booting up?
[19:16] <rana_ans> It generates ACPI error, parse/something failed bla bla
[19:17] <rana_ans> a full screen of errors, this was the last one I managed to read and write here
[19:18] <rana_ans> nvm I
[19:18] <rana_ans> I waited a while and ubuntu screen is up
[19:32] <Run> Hi, when running 'apt upgrade' I got:
[19:32] <Run> dpkg: warning: version '/etc/lsb-release' has bad syntax: version number does not start with digit
[19:32] <Run> I never touched that file though.
[19:33] <sarnold> Run: can you pastebin the whole thing?
[19:34] <__Milencho> Run, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1597466
[19:34] <Run> https://justpaste.it/6x1a2
[19:36] <Run> That is from 2016 :/
[19:37] <sarnold> comment #27 suggests the bug is fixed in 19.10
[20:16] <phatcat> hello, I changed my SSH port to a random number. I'm running UFW and port 22 shows as "closed" - is there a way to make it show "filtered" instead?
[20:17] <Run> Just close port 22 on your firewall?
[20:17] <sarnold> probably an iptables REJECT rule will do the job
[20:17] <sarnold> if not, iptables DROP will probably give 'filtered', but then that's annoying waiting for timeouts :)
[20:18] <Run> It should be the default, so just remove 'ssh' as open port from the firewall configuration.
[20:19] <phatcat> Run: it shows "closed" then
[20:19] <phatcat> how do I stop listening
[20:20] <Run> If it shows closed you firewall isn't filtering it out... does it say closed for every random port number?
[20:20] <phatcat> if I do "ufw status" it shows OpenSSH                    ALLOW       Anywhere
[20:20] <Run> so remove that
[20:20] <phatcat> I'm afraid to delete it tho not to lock myself up
[20:20] <phatcat> 34636/tcp is open so it shouldn't happen
[20:20] <Run> you need to open the other port first then.
[20:21] <Run> I'd ssh in through the new port - and then remove that OpenSSH line from ufw.
[20:23] <phatcat> if shit hits the fan and I can mount it to a recovery instance
[20:23] <phatcat> will I be able to revert it?
[20:24] <phatcat> seems like it
[20:24] <phatcat> "/etc/ufw/user.rules"
[20:26] <phatcat> yep, worked, thanks Run!
[20:27] <phatcat> do I continue using ufw, or there are better alternatives out there?
[20:29] <saor> I just use iptables
[20:35] <courrier> Why does "sudo date -s 2019-10-15T18:00" succeeds but "date" shows the clock hasn't actually changed on 18.04 server? ntp service is not loaded
[20:37] <lordcirth_> courrier, "systemctl status systemd-timesyncd" ?
[20:37] <Intelo> Can I do this in hosts file: if s1.site.com is hit, localhost:11 is loaded. if s2.site.com is hit, localhost:22 is loaded (imaginary ports)
[20:37] <lordcirth_> Intelo, hosts file resolves names to IPs, not ports
[20:38] <courrier> lordcirth_: Thank you, timesyncd was the responsible :)
[20:38] <lordcirth_> But you could use other IPs in the 127.0.0.0/16 range
[20:38] <Intelo> lordcirth_, any way?
[20:38] <Intelo> lordcirth_, any way to achieve this?
[20:39] <seere> Intelo: what do you really want to achive?
[20:39] <lordcirth_> Intelo, one could redirect s1.site.com to 127.42.0.1, and s2.site.com to 127.42.0.2.
[20:39] <lordcirth_> But this sounds like a strange thing to do
[20:39] <Intelo> lordcirth_,  I have two servers on differnt ports rrunning
[20:39] <Intelo> need to map them to domain
[20:40] <seere> Intelo: what type of servers?
[20:41] <lordcirth_> This is for testing purposes?
[20:41] <Intelo> seere, frontend, backend
[20:41] <Intelo> lordcirth_, yes
[20:41] <seere> Intelo: HTTP?
[20:43] <Intelo> yes
[20:45] <seere> Intelo: as lordcirth_ suggested. The easiest way would bi to bind them to different 127.0.0.0/8 addresses per config. Apache -> VirtualHost
[20:45] <seere> s/bi/be/
[20:47] <Intelo> seere, any way to bind by port?
[20:48] <lordcirth_> Intelo, not in the hosts file.
[20:48] <lordcirth_> Using 127.* is the easiest way I can think of
[20:48] <seere> Intelo: yes, but not in the hosts file.
[20:49] <Intelo> seere, lordcirth_ whats the other way?
[20:49] <seere> Intelo: you have already bound your frontend/backend to different ports?
[20:49] <Intelo> seere, corrent
[20:49] <lordcirth_> You could probably use some iptables hackery? Not sure
[20:51] <seere> lordcirth_: he could, but had to diffentiate by IP adress to forward to his ports. So he needs two IPs anyway.
[20:53] <seere> Intelo: you could add something like 127.0.1.1 for site1 and 127.0.2.1 for site2 to your hosts and bind your frontend/backend to his IPs, using the standard ports.
[20:53] <Intelo> seere, ok but no other way? right?
[20:53] <seere> Intelo: not by using the hosts file, no.
[20:54] <Intelo> seere,  by using something else?
[20:54] <seere> Intelo: I told possible ways above.
[20:55] <Intelo> seere,  with ports I mean
[20:55] <seere> Intelo: another way would be to use named virtualhosts and let apache do the work.
[20:55] <Intelo> oh ok
[20:55] <Intelo> I missed that
[20:56] <Intelo> thanks
[20:56] <Intelo> lordcirth_, thanks too
[20:58] <seere> Intelo: assuming you use apache of course.
[21:07] <Intelo> seere, ok
[21:19] <dbugger> Help! My wifi adapter had disappeared after reboot!! :((( I'm panicking now
[21:21] <dbugger> I'm running 18.04, btw
[21:22] <Gusj> dbugger, hi, do you see it when you run 'lshw -C network' ?
[21:23] <dbugger> Yes, I do
[21:24] <Gusj> dbugger, run 'sudo systemctl restart network-manager' to see
[21:25] <dbugger> Done
[21:25] <dbugger> It didn't come back
[21:26] <Gusj> dbugger, but if you see it in lshw, what do you mean that it went away?
[21:27] <dbugger> Up there, when I click on the power button, the wifi menu is not there anymore
[21:27] <dbugger> I only see now "VPN off" and my username
[21:28] <Gusj> dbugger, `ahh so the panel dissapeard
[21:28] <dbugger> When I go to settings > wifi I see a "no wifi adapter found"
[21:29] <Gusj> dbugger, and how do you think it dissapeared?
[21:30] <dbugger> I was using it happily. My wife came and asked me to use the computer. She wanted to log in Windows. When she was finished I came back to Ubuntu... And it was gone
[21:31] <Gusj> dbugger, I c.. maybe someone else knows how to get it back.. state your version
[21:31] <dbugger> My version of Ubuntu? 18.04
[21:36] <dbugger> Ok, I'm freaking out
[21:40] <sarnold> try rebooting?
[21:42] <_dbugger> Well
[21:42] <_dbugger> In my panic, I went to Powerline
[21:42] <_dbugger> At least I now have connectivity
[21:43] <_dbugger> lets see if reinstalling bcmwl...
[21:44] <dbugger> sarnold: of course I did
[21:45] <_dbugger> Nope, that did not help
[21:49] <_dbugger> sarnold, something I just noticed
[21:50] <_dbugger> When I do lshw, i see this:   "*-network UNCLAIMED"
[21:50] <_dbugger> The UNCLAIMED part seems suspicious..
[21:50] <sarnold> _dbugger: that means there's no kernel driver for the hardware
[21:51] <_dbugger> so the driver vanished like Thanos snapped?
[21:52] <_dbugger> sarnold, bcmwl-kernel-source has been working so far, and it is still installed. I just checked
[21:52] <_dbugger> but doing "sudo modprobe wl" gave me this output:
[21:52] <_dbugger> modprobe: FATAL: Module wl not found in directory /lib/modules/5.3.0-20-generic
[21:52] <_dbugger> Does that tell you anything?
[21:55] <sarnold> _dbugger: what does 'dkms status' report?
[21:55] <_dbugger> bcmwl, 6.30.223.271+bdcom: added
[21:56] <_dbugger> to be more precise: https://hastebin.com/juyibisoli.bash
[21:56] <IkoIKo> Bash.org Getting a random quote from bash.org, Please wait..
[21:56] <IkoIKo> Bash.org - #997 Quote: <theR> I'm glad I remembered I'm an idiot before I started to set up a wins proxy
[21:57] <sarnold> _dbugger: try dkms build wl
[21:58] <_dbugger> "Invalid number of arguments"
[21:58] <_dbugger> Did you forget something?
[21:58] <sarnold> maybe; I've never needed to use dkms, let me look at the manpage again :)
[21:59] <sarnold> _dbugger: so... dkms status output doesn't mention wl, but you did. is that important?
[21:59] <sarnold> _dbugger: maybe try dkms build bcwml
[22:00] <_dbugger> It doesnt
[22:00] <_dbugger> the problem is with the number or arguments, not the value of those
[22:00] <_dbugger> or so it seems...
[22:01] <sarnold> try dkms build bcmwl/6.30.223.271+bdcom
[22:01] <_dbugger> probably like sudo, no?
[22:02] <sarnold> I don't understand..
[22:02] <_dbugger> Ops... this does NOT look good...
[22:02] <_dbugger> https://hastebin.com/ofebocuweg.rb
[22:03] <sarnold> indeed that looks like you'll either need a newer driver or an older kernel
[22:03] <_dbugger> you mean the latest kernel broke the driver?
[22:04] <sarnold> can you pastebin the var/lib/dkms/bcmwl/6.30.223.271+bdcom/build/make.log ?
[22:05] <sarnold> maybe the tooling just got confused with a different error
[22:05] <_dbugger> sarnold, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TM5jQkmtRp/
[22:14] <sarnold> _dbugger: it's probably been broken since https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=736706bee3298208343a76096370e4f6a5c55915
[22:14] <_dbugger> So I should use another kernel?
[22:17] <_dbugger> Im gonna try 5.3.0-19
[22:17] <_dbugger> if that doesnt work, ill try 5.0.0-32
[22:17] <_dbugger> brb
[22:23] <_dbugger> Well
[22:23] <_dbugger> 5.3.0-19 did not solve it
[22:23] <_dbugger> and 5.0 did not even let my mouse work
[22:23] <_dbugger> so yeah... I suspect im stuck with my powerline for now...
[22:24] <jeremy31> _dbugger: The bcmwl-kernel-source in bionic repos has not been patched for the 5.3 kernels
[22:24] <_dbugger> jeremy31, so then yeah, it is the kernel? I didnt even realize that I updated it :P
[22:24] <jeremy31> _dbugger: Is it a 64 bit install?
[22:25] <_dbugger> jeremy31, yep
[22:25] <sarnold> _dbugger: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+changelog
[22:26] <sarnold> _dbugger: you could either steal the patch from that debdiff for your own sources, or you could upgrade to eoan, it appears to have been adapted already
[22:26] <jeremy31> _dbugger: you could download and install the eoan package, I am not sure if the dependencies will be satisfied in 18.04 https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/amd64/bcmwl-kernel-source/download
[22:27] <_dbugger> I am not that brave
[22:27] <_dbugger> I think I will stick to powerline until an official patch comes out
[22:28] <jeremy31> _dbugger: It might be the end of January before that happens
[22:29] <_dbugger> yay....
[22:29] <_dbugger> i wanted to wait to 20.04 to upgrade to a new LTS, but if this is the deal...
[22:29] <jeremy31> _dbugger: replace the Broadcom with Intel 7265
[22:30] <_dbugger> jeremy31, the what? I did not understand that sentence...
[22:31] <sarnold> honestly, this package may never be updated for the ESM kernels
[22:31] <sarnold> if you file a bug, it *might* be updated
[22:31] <_dbugger> ESM?
[22:31] <jeremy31> _dbugger: Take the machine apart, remove the Broadcom wifi card and replace it with Intel wifi 7265
[22:31] <sarnold> _dbugger: oh, sorry. too many acronyms. I meant HWE kernels.
[22:31] <_dbugger> jeremy31, im not gonna buy a new wifi card because of this... o_O
[22:32] <_dbugger> Well, based on what you guys are saying, seems like my best bet is to upgrade to 19.10...
[22:34] <_dbugger> In any case, thank you all for the info
[22:34] <_dbugger> The community as always ready to help. I love you all.
[22:35] <jeremy31> _dbugger: Post URL from terminal for>  lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:36] <_dbugger> https://termbin.com/5731
[22:37] <sarnold> _dbugger: at least this one issue will be addressed with newer packaging in 19.10; and hopefully your mouse would still work. but there's probably be new, exciting, bugs to find in the newer version :)
[22:38] <_dbugger> newer packaging?? What? when? how??
[22:38] <_dbugger> no more apt?
[22:38] <sarnold> _dbugger: well, snap certainly takes a more central role in newer releases
[22:38] <sarnold> _dbugger: but I meant the first change listed on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+changelog
[22:39] <jeremy31> _dbugger: The eaon package will work on 18.04, just installed it
[22:40] <_dbugger> sarnold, I hate snap. I only had trouble with it
[22:40] <_dbugger> jeremy31, I see. Well, if I am to install the eaon package, i guess I could as well install the whole distro...
[22:40] <sarnold> _dbugger: please do file bugs about that too :)
[22:41] <_dbugger> sarnold, not sure if they are bugs, or just me not getting how they work
[22:41] <jeremy31> _dbugger: if you just install the package, you keep the LTS 18.04
[22:41] <_dbugger> jeremy31, I am not sure how to do that...
[22:41] <jeremy31> _dbugger: in terminal>  wgethttp://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/b/broadcom-sta/broadcom-sta-dkms_6.30.223.271-11_all.deb
[22:42] <jeremy31> _dbugger: in terminal>  wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/b/broadcom-sta/broadcom-sta-dkms_6.30.223.271-11_all.deb
[22:42] <jeremy31> _dbugger: second command>  sudo dpkg -i broadcom-sta-dkms_6.30.223.271-11_all.deb
[22:43] <_dbugger> here it goes...
[22:44] <Polybius-> 'redirecting output to wget-log'. i would like to see my download, anybody know how to fix this
[22:44] <_dbugger> ok, done. Now "sudo systemctl restart network-manager" ?
[22:44] <Polybius-> the output is the loadbar
[22:44] <Polybius-> 'n stuff
[22:47] <jeremy31> _dbugger: reboot
[22:49] <dbugger> It worked!
[22:49] <dbugger> I love you all!
[22:51] <Polybius-> anybody know the answer to my question?
[22:51] <dbugger> Yes, it is working :)
[22:51] <dbugger> Thanks God
[22:52] <Simonious> how do I create an endless stream of a given character to a pipe.. I think this is easy, but I'm not thinking of it.
[22:53] <dax> "pipe" as in foo | bar | baz at the commandline?
[22:53] <Simonious> yes
[22:54] <dax> the "yes" command, probably
[22:54] <Simonious> good call
[22:54]  * Simonious goes looking
[22:54] <dax> you can give it a string to output instead of "y"
[22:54] <Simonious> yup, that works, thanks :)
[23:01] <Polybius-> the location of wget-log might be something too, im not finding it.
[23:16] <dbugger> jeremy31, you found me in SO :)
[23:20] <jeremy31> dbugger: you mean AU- askubuntu?
[23:40] <chieta> anyone on eoan having problem with virtualbox like this https://dpaste.de/YN2o ?
[23:44] <dbugger> jeremy31, yes :)
[23:56] <sarnold> chieta: did you upgrade kernels? or upgrade the vbox software?