[06:17] <jibel> hi all
[06:44] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:48] <sarnold> good morning oSoMoN :) looks like mozilla's got an interesting way of greeting you in the morning https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/11/scammers-are-exploiting-an-unpatched-firefox-bug-to-send-users-into-a-panic/
[06:57] <oSoMoN> good morning sarnold, thanks for the pointer. looks like there might be a 70.0.2 release with a fix, when there's one
[06:58] <sarnold> oSoMoN: cool, thanks :)
[07:03] <didrocks> good morning
[07:04] <jibel> salut didrocks and all
[07:05] <didrocks> salut jibel
[07:11] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks , jibel
[07:12] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:09] <seb128> gooood morning desktopers
[08:17] <didrocks> hey seb128
[08:17] <seb128> lut didrocks, comment ça va aujourd'hui ?
[08:17] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[08:20] <seb128> ça va bien
[08:26] <marcustomlinson> morning jibel oSoMoN didrocks seb128
[08:28] <didrocks> good morning marcustomlinson
[08:30] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, how are you?
[08:30] <marcustomlinson> seb128: no too bad, you?
[08:31] <marcustomlinson> over your bug yet?
[08:32] <marcustomlinson> the stomach one, not the ones in ubuntu :P
[08:34] <seb128> haha
[08:35] <seb128> I'm feeling better, eating almost normally again so hopefully it's fully over by tomorrow, thanks for asking!
[08:35] <marcustomlinson> good to hear, try to take it easy
[08:40] <seb128> trying, but there is always too much to do :-)
[08:41] <marcustomlinson> that's the point I guess. There's always too much to do whether you take a day off or not ;)
[09:02] <Laney> morning!
[09:02] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[09:09] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:14] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson didrocks
[09:16] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you today?
[09:28] <Laney> moin seb128
[09:28] <Laney> doing alrigggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[09:28] <Laney> saw some fireworks last night 🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆
[09:28] <Laney> what about you?
[09:29] <seb128> I'm ok, stomach is better and I had a proper sleep night
[09:29] <seb128> oh, fireworks, what was the occassion?
[09:34] <Wimpress> Good morning o/
[09:34] <marcustomlinson> hey Wimpress
[09:36] <Laney> the thwarting of a most treasonous plot to destroy the house of lords!
[09:36] <Laney> hey Wimpress
[09:38] <didrocks> hey Wimpress
[09:42] <seb128> hey Wimpress
[09:42] <seb128> oh, right, the day for that poor Guy
[09:43] <marcustomlinson> I even saw the explosions from here
[09:48] <oSoMoN> what, they finally managed to blow up the house of Lords, after more than 400 years trying?
[09:54] <Laney> what do we want? house of lords reform! when do we want it? at a convenient time, once we have thoroughly debated all the options and thoughtfully decided the best replacement!
[10:00] <marcustomlinson> :D
[15:04] <kenvandine> Way2cool!
[15:05] <kenvandine> whoops... that was not MY password :)
[15:05] <marcustomlinson> XD
[15:06] <kenvandine> my nephew's :)
[15:08] <Laney> 😂
[15:22] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, can you confirm my analysis in bug #1851490 ?
[15:23]  * Trevinho checks
[15:24] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: yeah, that is what happens. Used to be a timeout that maybe isn't enough for snaps though?
[15:24] <hellsworth> good morning everyone
[15:24] <Trevinho> hi hellsworth
[15:25] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, yeah, I guess the timeout isn't long enough for snaps
[15:26] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, afaict in gnome-shell when the desktop file disappears, the entry isn't removed from the favourites, but the launcher simply doesn't display it, so when the desktop file appears again, the icon re-appears
[15:26] <oSoMoN> I'd argue this is better
[15:27] <oSoMoN> (than a timeout)
[15:27] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[15:27] <hellsworth> hi folks. hope you all are having a nice day :)
[15:27] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, that's way too cool to be a password anyway, right?
[15:29] <kenvandine> lol
[15:29] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: well, longer timeout can be still a thing
[15:29] <Trevinho> is an easy fix
[15:30] <kenvandine> his harddrive sounds terrible... he brought his PC over hoping I can copy some files off of it for him
[15:30] <kenvandine> clanking sounds... not good
[15:30] <marcustomlinson> been there done that haha
[15:30] <kenvandine> gonna try with a live ubuntu session :)
[15:30] <marcustomlinson> now and then when the copying freezes, just whack it
[15:30] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, sure, that would be a decent band-aid, but it would still be racy on slow systems (like my 16.04 VM)
[15:31] <kenvandine> just keeps getting a BSOD
[15:31] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, how much do you think the timeout can be increased? will the launcher hide an icon if the desktop file doesn't exist?
[15:32]  * mgedmin tried to focus firefox and instead got an unexpected JS ERROR: TypeError: malformed UTF-8 character sequence at offset 0 and gnome-shell segfaulted
[15:35] <Laney> sounds like a bug to be reported if it's not already (ideally upstream too, unless it comes from an extension)
[15:35] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: probably even a minute is fine
[15:35] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: but should probably hidden before
[15:36] <mgedmin> I tried, but ubuntu-bug thinks it's unreportable because some apt packages (rygel) are outdated
[15:36] <mgedmin> there's an .upload file in /var/crash so maybe the crash dump got uploaded somewhere
[15:38] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, I think a minute would do the trick, yes
[15:39] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, shall I assign to you? or do you want me to submit a merge request for it?
[15:39] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: if you can, would be nice
[15:39] <oSoMoN> ack, I'll put it in my to-do list (low priority though)
[15:44] <didrocks> mvo: hey, when you have time, a very easy MP to end a day/a week: https://github.com/snapcore/go-gettext/pull/3 :)
[15:44] <gitbot> snapcore issue (Pull request) 3 in go-gettext "Add go.mod file" [Open]
[15:44] <seb128> didrocks, did you ever notice that the default layout in a French install is 'fr (alternate obsolete)'
[15:44] <seb128> I just noticed when installing that new laptop
[15:45] <didrocks> seb128: it has always been the alternate layout, no?
[15:45] <seb128> I though it was supposed to be 'fr (alternate)'
[15:45] <didrocks> wasn't marked obselete in my memory though
[15:45] <seb128> right
[15:45] <didrocks> there are 2?
[15:46] <seb128> well obsolete/current default is fr+latin9
[15:46] <didrocks> or it's just the same being marked as obselete?
[15:46] <seb128> the alternate and correct one is fr+oss
[15:46] <didrocks> argh
[15:46] <seb128> seems like we regressed that in artful
[15:46] <didrocks> wondering what changed
[15:46] <didrocks> yeah
[15:46] <seb128> if the code issue is what I though
[15:46] <didrocks> but yeah, I'm 100% sure we were using fr+oss before
[15:46] <seb128> c_yphermox dropped a part of the console-setup ubuntu delta to change that in artful
[15:47] <seb128> I just wonder why we didn't notice before if that's the pb
[15:47] <seb128> I need to do a bionic install...
[15:47] <didrocks> let me check, I thought I installed that box on bionic
[15:47] <didrocks> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180426)
[15:47] <didrocks> ok, so I reinstalled that one on bionic
[15:48] <didrocks> I don't remember if I selected alternate myself though
[15:48] <seb128> gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources sources ?
[15:48] <didrocks> [('xkb', 'fr+oss')]
[15:48] <seb128> k, weird
[15:48] <seb128> thx for checking
[15:48] <didrocks> yw, so maybe a regression that happened later?
[15:49] <didrocks> it could be that I reselected it automatically
[15:49] <didrocks> but I don't remember this
[15:49] <seb128> I think I would have noticed if it was labelled (obsolete) in the bionic installer
[15:49] <didrocks> same
[15:49] <seb128> so maybe we had another override
[15:49] <didrocks> but it seems I didn't notice in VM previous cycles…
[15:49] <seb128> right, I don't know when it started
[15:49] <didrocks> when using it for a while (so not a VM), I would definitively notice
[15:49] <didrocks> because of "…"
[15:50] <seb128> latin9 (the current default) is not far from oss
[15:50] <seb128> so maybe "…" is working for it as well
[15:50] <seb128> anyway, I will dig a bit
[15:50] <seb128> & add back that delta that got dropped by error
[15:50] <seb128> didrocks, thx for the replies :)
[15:50] <didrocks> yw ;)
[15:50] <didrocks> keep me posted
[15:53] <seb128> I will do!
[15:54] <mvo> didrocks: thank you!