| wxl | @HMollerCl debian-watch-does-not-check-gpg-signature | 00:04 |
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| wxl | @HMollerCl re: upstreaming they SHOULD be maintained upstream. EVERYONE that uses it should have a manpage and a desktop entry, not just debian/ubuntu users | 00:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ok, I ask because it's already packaged for arch and getoo and at least in arch they add the .desktop | 00:06 |
| wxl | well that just shows how bad arch and gentoo are XD | 00:08 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> It's OK to put desktop in /data? | 00:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> And manpages are in /debian how are the used by other distros? | 00:15 |
| wxl | well again if they're both in the upstream source, then you don't have to figure out where to put them so much as wwhat to do with them | 00:16 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> So this isn't working | 02:12 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support | 02:12 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> First it said that the system time was wrong … Now the connection is getting reset | 02:13 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> Is it ded? | 02:14 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> It is working for me. | 02:14 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> (Photo, 590x1280) https://i.imgur.com/0kNIWxD.jpg | 02:15 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @kc2bez [It is working for me.], Is it a private group? Because telegram search isn't returning it. And in India, some Telegram links have stopped loading across the Web due to the partial ban on Telegram | 02:17 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> It shouldn't be private. | 02:18 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @kc2bez [It shouldn't be private.], Yes | 02:19 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @Rutvikm [Is it a private group? Because telegram search isn't returning it. And in India, …], And yes, This is the reason for the above error | 02:19 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Well, the link may be broken in your location. | 02:20 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> Link's working on Singapore VPN | 02:20 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @kc2bez [Well, the link may be broken in your location.], Yes, it is. But Telegram search shouldn't be blocking it | 02:20 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I think the issue with having it searchable in Telegram itself is Spam. So it is unlisted but not private. | 02:22 |
| lubot | <glpzzz> @HMollerCl [wxl: like this https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2018/may/01/unexpected …], 😲 | 03:02 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL052a940cf043: Add Lubuntu Update Notifier to spec.rst] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL052a940cf043 | 06:59 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1250a9858a84: Update alternate to shortcut keys] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1250a9858a84 | 08:50 | |
| nOOb | Hi important News. | 11:43 |
| nOOb | Please support Pinebook | 11:43 |
| nOOb | Manjro community just do this | 11:43 |
| nOOb | https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-arm-preview1-for-pinebook-pro/110473 | 11:44 |
| nOOb | Please not abandon in new LTS version LXDE | 11:44 |
| nOOb | I begg you. I use Lubuntu from the beginning | 11:44 |
| nOOb | as my main desktop | 11:44 |
| nOOb | Please give as chose LXQT or LXDE | 11:44 |
| nOOb | Most of old Lubuntu users want to use LXDE | 11:45 |
| nOOb | LXDe have very less memory consuption works great on older PC | 11:45 |
| nOOb | We use Lubuntu booting from USB and hardware(laptops or PC) are just hardware donor | 11:45 |
| nOOb | LXQT has different aplication different layout..than LXDE | 11:46 |
| nOOb | Please not leave LXDE devoted users who use LTS version witch LXDE from many years | 11:47 |
| nOOb | Old users dont like LXQT.. | 11:48 |
| nOOb | I will be forced to abandon Lubuntu if LXDE will not be still support and change to Linux Trisquel witch LXDE | 11:49 |
| nOOb | I dont want to do this..please...include lubuntu old user request in your developemt plans. | 11:50 |
| nOOb | I am devoted Lubuntu users..I have big expirience in Lubuntu use from many years and I strongly tell you that LXQT will be big mistake | 11:51 |
| nOOb | Please do not abandon LXDE in LTS version..PLEASE! | 11:51 |
| nOOb | Best regards! | 11:52 |
| nOOb | LXQT doesent have the same software and it is not the same intuitional and simple and low memory consuption like LXDE | 11:53 |
| nOOb | LXDE is neded for many of single board coputer..for many users who boot Lubuntu from USB and use Lubuntu as a main desktop but just each time boot it from usb..Hardware is onlu donor of harware..Main core is Lubuntu LXDE | 11:54 |
| nOOb | Please do not remember about this and about old Lubuntu users who like only LXDE and Lubuntu LXDe minimalistic stile | 11:55 |
| nOOb | Regards | 11:55 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2019/11/setup-complete-qt-sdk-on-ubuntu-eoan-ermine.html | 14:31 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @Rutvikm re: broken links don't use Jio. You get those kind of errors. | 15:46 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @The_LoudSpeaker [@Rutvikm re: broken links. Don't use Jio. You get those kind of errors.], Uhh Ohk | 15:58 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> I remember reading somewhere Jio was planning to ban telegram all together (ofourse by gov orders) unless we use VPN | 15:59 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> It'd be bad for them to lose all of Telegram users | 15:59 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> For non-Indians : Jio is an Indian Telecom Company(Like AT&T or Verizon)owned by Mukesh Ambani who is one of the world's richest men | 16:01 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @Rutvikm [For non-Indians : Jio is an Indian Telecom Company(Like AT&T or Verizon)owned by …], The richest man reference intended to highlight the company's business nature which is capitalizing on freebies.. Which eventually led to it being second largest under 3 years. … Thus, they can easily pull of stunts like banning Telegram | 16:06 |
| lubot | for example, thus pulling a majority of internet users in the country away from the messaging platform | 16:06 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @Rutvikm [The richest man reference intended to highlight the company's business nature wh …], This freebie capitalizing and eventual service controlling model is extremely risky in any soceity | 16:07 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> Sorry for long posts, but had to say it somewhere being a FOSS fan😁 | 16:07 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | ! off-topic | 16:41 |
| ubot93 | For discussion unrelated to Lubuntu support or development, please join the #lubuntu-offtopic channel on IRC or https://telegram.lubuntu.me/offtopic for Telegram. | 16:41 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | And @Rutvikm, Jio is not capitalising on freebies. I did a thorough study of the industry few months back and you would be surprised to know the results. e.g: It doesn't make any difference to jio if other players even shutdown. | 16:46 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | ! info grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate | 21:14 |
| ubot93 | grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate (0.3.7, focal): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (ubuntu-mate theme). In component universe, is extra. Built by grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate. Size 65 kB / 143 kB | 21:14 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | ow! https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate just gave me an internal server error | 21:15 |
| wxl | it happens. keeep refreshing | 21:16 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | yup! it loaded now | 21:16 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | mate also follows the same rSEED mechanism for getting default packages into mate? | 21:19 |
| wxl | uhhh i doubt they have the update script for meta but they have seeds just the same, that work the same | 21:19 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Then I will go and ask them how did they solve the issue that we encountered with the grub theme. | 21:20 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | oh! grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate doesn't have a postinstallation script which runs "update-grub" | 22:08 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | We could do that but have to confirm if grub will automatically recognise it at the time of 'grub-mkconfig' or 'grub-install' during installation. | 22:23 |
| wxl | huh | 22:29 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Wimpress: Can you help us here? ^ | 22:29 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | wxl: ? | 22:29 |
| wxl | that seems like a reasonable solution | 22:29 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | what removing the postinst file or asking Wimpress ? | 22:30 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | XD | 22:30 |
| wxl | removing it and letting install take care of it | 22:32 |
| wxl | of course i'm not sure how that affects the initial boot | 22:32 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | me too. don't know if the live cd/usb will bring it up. | 22:33 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | is there any place where I can emulate the iso formation from rSEED? and see how it turns out? | 22:34 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> The livecd doesn't show grub (and probably doesn't need to) | 22:34 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | live cd gives options of trying or installing na. Its grub only afaik | 22:35 |
| wxl | oh right duh | 22:35 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | :) | 22:36 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/screenshot-thread/221/18 | 23:04 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Maybe we can provide something simillar by default. There was a task na to improve sddm ? | 23:04 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Or maybe I create one? XD | 23:05 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Ah! autocorrect tells me ubuntu-studio also has its own grub theme | 23:06 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | !info grub2-themes-ubuntu-ubuntustudio | 23:07 |
| ubot93 | Package grub2-themes-ubuntu-ubuntustudio does not exist in focal | 23:07 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | ow! | 23:07 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | !info grub2-themes-ubuntu-ubuntustudio bionic | 23:07 |
| ubot93 | Package grub2-themes-ubuntu-ubuntustudio does not exist in bionic | 23:08 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | I just noticed we have "Ubuntu" in GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR in /etc/default/grub. Shouldn't it be "lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Ubuntu" | 23:17 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | or lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Lubuntu | 23:17 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> @kc2bez [The livecd doesn't show grub (and probably doesn't need to)], Doesn‘t this depend on the boot mode? | 23:18 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @aptghetto [Doesn‘t this depend on the boot mode?], I guess that is where I was going. | 23:18 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> EFI and bios are different. | 23:19 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> @The_LoudSpeaker> I just noticed we have "Ubuntu" in GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR in /etc/default/grub. Shouldn't it be "lsb_release -i -s 2 [<The_LoudSpeaker> I just noticed we have "Ubuntu" in GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR in /etc/de …], There is some work in progress by ade | 23:19 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | For EFI, I am sure its grub. @kc2bez | 23:21 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | @aptghetto noted. But shouldn't "lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Ubuntu" be fine as it places "Ubuntu" if 1st command goes wrong. | 23:24 |
| wxl | actually afaik EFI is grub— it's non-EFI that's not | 23:27 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> @The_LoudSpeaker> @aptghetto noted. But shouldn't "lsb_release -i -s 2 [<The_LoudSpeaker> @aptghetto noted. But shouldn't "lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/nul …], No, if lsb_release fails, it should display Debian. But the expected value is Ubuntu. … Lubuntu is not expected and would result in some „strange“ grub colours. | 23:31 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | doesn't the GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR value is the value of the entry that's created? The 1st option on grub screen? How does debian makes sense there when its ubuntu? | 23:36 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | correct me if I am wrong | 23:36 |
| wxl | referring to what i said: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/view/head:/README.devel#L71 | 23:38 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Its compulsary that the option on grub screen has to be ubuntu and not lubuntu, right? I think I can make our lxqt hummingbird appear there. Earlier it was set to appear only on entry having name Lubuntu. | 23:40 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> When you test Ubuntu Mate, then you should check it. Debian is the fallback for lazy distributions. | 23:41 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | okay. It is also the fallback for elementary but All I am saying is it should be Ubuntu in case of flavors right? That makes more sense. | 23:43 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> Yes, the expected value is Ubuntu, because GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR is used in grub-install on EFI systems and in the grub.d scripts | 23:43 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | nice. | 23:44 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | so coming back, @tsimonq2 @wxl why is it not set to automatically take that from lsb_release -i -s 2.... and set Ubuntu manually? any particular reasons? | 23:46 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Also, https://phab.lubuntu.me/D60 | 23:47 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Modified lubuntu-grub-theme: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D60 | 23:47 | |
| * wxl shrugs | 23:47 | |
| The_LoudSpeaker | XD | 23:47 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> so coming back, @tsimonq2 @wxl why is it not set to automatica …], Calamares can‘t handle command substitutions | 23:48 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | F | 23:48 |
| wxl | ahhhhhh | 23:48 |
| wxl | HEY NOW | 23:48 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Then it makes sense | 23:48 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Sorry | 23:48 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | wxl: if you are not busy, accept D59 ploxx | 23:49 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | That fixes 2 tasks for me as completed | 23:50 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | And I can go forward to separately add grub theme to rSEED | 23:50 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | or should I just add it and you will take care when accepting both? both make changes to rSEED | 23:58 |
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