[18:27] hello, are the any repos for "ubuntu-18.04.3-preinstalled-server" for raspberry pi ? [18:27] there ? === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB === led_dark_2 is now known as led_dark_1 [19:41] sdhd-sascha: try #raspberrypi [19:49] RoyK: well, i found this blog post from ubuntu. With 19.10 there should be a offical ubuntu support for raspberry pi 4. Now i wonder where the source for this project is ? ... https://ubuntu.com/blog/roadmap-for-official-support-for-the-raspberry-pi-4 [19:53] sdhd-sascha: I'd use 19.10 https://ubuntu.com/download/iot/raspberry-pi [19:55] RoyK: thank you. I will have a look. I hope this image is able to boot over network. Currently i have booted Debian-Buster over network with pi4 [19:55] sdhd-sascha: probably better to flash an sd card [20:00] RoyK: oh, i already tried this image ... well, then i need to compile u-boot and/or the kernel myself. I also asked at @raspberrypi for the offical source repo... thank you [20:09] sdhd-sascha: it's in the sources repos [20:10] RoyK: awkward ;-) you are right ;-D [20:23] sdhd-sascha: good luck :) [21:39] Does the installer help if I want to install onto a mirrored pair of SATA disks? [21:39] (md, not ZFS) [21:41] should. if you want it more customized, use the alternative installer. if you want it even more customized, use debootstrap. [21:41] i'm referring to ubuntu server 18.04.3+ [21:43] * lopta checks his iso directory [21:43] Is 19.10 out yet? [21:43] which year and month is it? [21:43] November 2019 [21:44] so the year 2019, month 11, hmm [21:44] * lopta interprets that as a "yes" [21:44] well done! [21:47] Sounds as though you chaps stick fairly rigidly to your release schedule. [21:49] Do I need a text installer to install onto a mirror or is the server installer always text? [21:50] lopta: it's always text. and it can create the mirror for you (in fact i think it will want to) [21:51] Thanks, that sounds great. [21:53] lopta: the "alternate" installer should do fine here - that's the old one. the new one sucks outright [21:53] RoyK: That's handy to know! [21:54] no idea why they made it - it's flashy, looks good, blablabla, but it stops there [21:55] Is that on a separate .iso? [21:55] lopta: if I were you, I'd use LVM on top of md as well, but then, people sometimes disagree there [21:55] Ah, found it. [21:56] goodie [21:57] RoyK: do you have specific complaints about the new installer? [21:58] I just realised it must be right about now it's 25 years since I installed Linux for the first time :D [21:58] I'm an old fart, if that helps. [21:58] ...first installed Linux for a friend from a stack of 5.25" 1200K floppies. [21:59] mwhudson: I had when I first tried it, and when I tried the v1.1, and then I didn't care, since either I used the alternate installer or just debian [21:59] RoyK: ok, well it is hopefully better now [21:59] mwhudson: I hope so [21:59] hmm 21 years since my first install i think [21:59] rh5 [22:00] lopta: are you sure? [22:00] RoyK: I'm sure they weren't 1.2M ;-) [22:00] those 5.25 floppies went out of style in the eightees and the initial linux kernel came out in 1991 [22:01] RoyK: I didn't say we were fashionable. [22:01] mwhudson: so just old buggers hanging around here, then :D [22:12] I haven't done a lot with Linux in the years since that first install. [22:12] ...but I do have an Ubuntu Server box in the office running a utility thing [22:13] ...and I'm about to try it on an actual server. [22:13] probably works [22:13] what are the plans for the server? storage or application? [22:14] or just "misc"? ;) [22:14] RoyK: Short term storage and just to familiarise myself with Ubuntu Server, if possible. [22:14] ok [22:15] one advice - if you want to install things like a web server, perhaps nextcloud, something else, do it in a VM if you have sufficient memory [22:15] Or LXC container, they are lighter [22:15] if something goes wrong in that vm, well, it's just a vm, not a big issue [22:15] * lopta nods [22:15] lordcirth_: same thing, really - but I stick to kvm still [22:16] brb, plugging in a USB flash drive to write the image to. [22:16] kernel stuff is hard or impossible in lxc [22:16] Yeah, but nextcloud, etc don't need "kernel stuff" [22:16] I do have ip_vs loaded by the host so that HAProxy works in LXC. [22:18] lordcirth_: I know, perhaps I'm just lazy or that I like to sometimes have different distros or versions installed, and the isolation is still far better on kvm - but hell - both work [22:18] Ubuntu 18.04 containers do run on 16.04 hosts, btw. [22:19] Quite handy at $WORK [22:21] whatever you fancy :) [22:21] * RoyK sticks to kvm [22:31] I suppose I should learn containers too, at some point. [22:31] Probably Ubuntu Server first though. [22:32] ...should be back tomorrow, hopefully.