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yohomerOn the subject of partitioning, I'm setting up a presently functional multi-boot system on a MBR partitioned SSD with sd3 dedicated for an isolated master grub changer (per community/MultiOSBoot) .... but of course am working with only Grub2, not legacy. Boot sequence now flows from BIOS -> MBR (Boot Loader stage1) to the current Ubuntu root on sda6.00:16
yohomerI'd like the boot sequence to hit sda3 and chain from there, per the referenced doc which makes a lot of sense to me, but am uncertain how to arrive at that, or even whether this strategy is still the best.00:18
yohomers/changer/chainer above00:20
yohomerWin7 is on sda200:21
yohomerCredit to Ubuntu installer for bringing this all together. Stage 2 of the boot loader is now in its root on sda6 (and a Cent root on sda7)00:24
yohomerWhile it works now, .... it seems quite vulnerable to me, and would welcome ideas for backup/restore tools.00:26
yohomerand/or for putting the chaining grub into its solitary designated primary partition00:32
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Phruiswhat library does files use to connect to sftp ?01:54
Phruisi think i am missing it01:54
gehnhow do I install ssdm? it seems to be missing when I search in synaptic or on cli with apt-cache02:03
gehnbut it seems to be supposedly available https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/sddm02:03
gehnmy sources.list appears to have universe enabled and the checkboxes in Software & Updates seem to confirm this02:04
gehnbut no ssdm...02:04
oerheksyour url gives the answer ssdm > sddm02:05
oerhekswhat guide do you follow?02:05
gehnI don't understand what "ssdm > ssdm" means here02:06
gehnI'm not following a guide right now02:06
oerheksdon't you spot the typo?02:06
gehnohhh, hah, ok yes02:06
gehnhahah, thanks02:07
oerheksinstalling should also procecute "sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm" and reboot after that02:08
gehnoerheks, yup that works, thanks02:09
gehnnow... how do I use wayland? I don't see any such setting in either lightdm or sddm02:09
oerhekslogout, select the user, *then* the change xorg/wayland button pops up02:10
gehnhmm, yeah that wasn't happening for me as far as I can tell02:11
oerheksugly design, not being able to select before login02:11
oerheksc/login > select user02:12
gehnmy user was selected but the only options in the dropdown at the bottom of sddm were for the DEs, no options relating to wayland02:12
gehnit was that and the "virtual keyboard" were the only other options available on the sddm screen that did anything02:12
oerhekssddm and no wayland, no clue there02:15
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gehnwell, lightdm doesn't seem to have the option either02:43
gehnwhich dm are you using?02:43
oerheksstandard gdm302:44
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KnifaHey folks, can someone point me at the best place to report Raspberry Pi issues? Fresh install of the aarch64 variant on a 3A kernel panics right away with a memory deadlock.03:34
KnifaAbout to try the aarch32 variant.03:35
oerheksKnifa, see the releasentes of 19.10 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes#Raspberry_Pi03:37
Knifaoerheks, ah I totally missed this! Cheers.03:37
oerheksdepends what pi version, the 4 has a 3 gb memory bug03:38
oerhekshave fun!03:38
oerheksand from03:38
oerhekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue60403:39
oerhekshttps://ubuntu.com/blog/roadmap-for-official-support-for-the-raspberry-pi-403:39
Knifai'm on the 3A which has a bug there, haha03:39
Knifalooks like a fix is coming though03:40
Knifabye!03:43
Blade103:53
DocPlatypusok. new VGA to HDMI adapter I bought from Amazon for use with old laptop without HDMI output and potential new TV or projector with no VGA 15-pin input. I am trying to get the screen to mirror between the laptop and the TV (testing with my TV's HDMI inputs for now)... sometimes it will appear to work and then the laptop display will cycle off and on every so often03:59
DocPlatypuswhat could possibly be going on?03:59
DocPlatypusand sometimes I can get it to work and stay working but it's apparently random04:00
DocPlatypusI might add it looks like there is something that keeps wanting to reset the resolutions, as the adapter can do 1920x1080 but my laptop display only does 1366x76804:05
DocPlatypusthink I may have finally found the issue, power related (drawing too much power from laptop's USB port)04:35
DocPlatypusok it's not that, tried to do mirrored again and it's still flipping between 1920x1080 and back04:42
DocPlatypusfinally got it to stabilize by clicking before it switched modes04:42
dentalflossHey guys, I'm having some trouble moving from PopOS to elementary wrt booting, wondering if anyone has a moment to help me out04:42
DocPlatypusalso does anyone know of a situation where xrandr commands would just get completely ignored?04:50
kk4ewtwayland05:02
makarahi. Any update on how to disable headset in bluetooth, or make A2DP default?05:18
dentalflossSo am trying to install elementary under UEFI, but it seems to have reformatted the disk as MBR. I'm going to try again but to check I should make the following partitions in gparted before install:512 MB FAT32 with esp flag, mount point /bootremainder of disk EXT4, mount point /then install on the second partition?05:28
daxdentalfloss: #ubuntu only supports Ubuntu and its official derivatives. You'll want to ask the Elementary folks if you're trying to install Elementary.05:31
flogId like to change the icon for the nm-applet tray icon. Not sure where to look. Any ideas05:39
oerheksthe launcher .desktop file has that data, https://askubuntu.com/questions/894990/how-to-change-an-icon-in-16-0405:46
DocPlatypusodd. so I am running Xwayland and didn't realize it... is there any way to switch back to the "normal" X server?06:01
DocPlatypusxrandr does work when I am running one screen, though. it just doesn't behave as expected when the laptop's internal display is also up06:01
oerhekslogout, select the user, *then* the change xorg/wayland button pops up06:05
DocPlatypusok let me try that06:31
DocPlatypusok so I don't have an option to start GNOME without Wayland... this is on 18.0406:43
DocPlatypusI am guessing there's something I might be able to tweak in Wayland so it doesn't keep switching resolutions on me. I've never had this issue before that I can recall06:44
IaMnEwHeReHi there, I was just wondering if any of you have experience with the softwarepackages zoom.us offers06:55
IaMnEwHeReI personally find them a scurge out for user-data only, instead of improving their service first and formost, but unfortunately,I might have to install their software, because their web-interface is a piece of work to say the least06:56
IaMnEwHeReso I was wondering if there is a safe way of installing their software/letting it run on my system without giving them anything06:57
oerheksIaMnEwHeRe, ask in ##linux, commercial services is beyound the scope of this channel06:57
IaMnEwHeRethx, was asking for experience , could be that someone of you guys has some experience with it, but I will check that channel out06:58
DocPlatypusI'd like to know as well06:58
flogDocPlatypus: you choose at login if you want to start X or wayland.06:59
DocPlatypusflog: I don't appear to have that option07:08
DocPlatypusthis is on 18.04 LTS07:08
oerheksif you have nvidia installed, there is no xorg or wayland option, and then you have xorg only07:08
DocPlatypusI have an integrated Intel video chip07:09
DocPlatypusit's an old laptop07:09
oerheksso, you are lucky you get an output on that vga-hdmi adapter07:10
DocPlatypusreally?07:11
DocPlatypusthe VGA port does 1920x1080 to a regular monitor over VGA just fine07:11
DocPlatypusit will do the same res to this TV but it's only a 720p TV so it looks like poo07:11
DocPlatypusbut I've never had it keep switching resolutions with the monitor before, not even when I had both the internal display and monitor going at the same time07:12
DocPlatypusif I have one or the other (internal display with adapter disconnected, or VGA to HDMI adapter with laptop lid closed) I don't have any issues. but the main reason I got this adapter was so I could use the laptop to give presentations on projectors that may not have VGA ports07:14
DocPlatypusI don't think it's the TV that's the issue, as my mom's TV did the same thing until I finally got lucky and got it to quit switching back and forth somehow07:15
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erle64-How long is 19.04 supported?07:58
erle64-I got one installation that I cannot upgrade for a few more weeks.07:58
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Ben64!19.04 | erle-08:06
ubottuerle-: Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) is the 30th release of Ubuntu, supported until January 2020.  Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/dingo08:06
DocPlatypusI think I finally figured it out08:07
DocPlatypusxrandr --output VIRTUAL1 --off --output LVDS1 --mode 1366x768 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal --output TV1 --off --output DP1 --off --output VGA1 --primary --mode 1360x768 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal08:08
DocPlatypusthe key is apparently the VIRTUAL1 bit08:08
DocPlatypus!20.0408:13
ubottuUbuntu 20.04 (Focal Fossa) will be the 32nd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for April 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule ). It will be a long-term support release. Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions.08:13
DocPlatypuserle-: if your "a few" is less than about 8 you're in luck I guess?08:14
DocPlatypusBTW this is why I stick to LTS releases now08:14
enriooooooohi08:17
* IaMnEwHeRe helloooooo enriooooooo08:18
enrioooooooi belong to both root group and my own group but still not able to access root files08:18
DocPlatypusand for further documentation if anyone else runs into this issue: I used the arandr front end to convince whatever graphics subsystem to behave08:18
enriooooooocat /etc/groups are as follows08:19
enrioooooooroot:x:0:mrx08:19
enrioooooooi belong to root group still unable to access files08:20
enriooooooothe file and its parent are of following permission 077008:20
erle-DocPlatypus, yes, maybe three weeks08:21
erle-DocPlatypus, thanks08:21
IaMnEwHeReenriooooooo, well..... what does $>id  say?08:22
enriooooooouid=1000(mrx) gid=1000(mrx) groups=1000(mrx),0(root),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),111(lpadmin),123(sambashare)08:22
erle-DocPlatypus, is just one test machine that I cannot upgrade, all my production machines are LTS or 19.1008:22
IaMnEwHeReenriooooooo, execute newgrp and try again08:23
enrioooooooroot as my secondary group08:23
IaMnEwHeRethe gid is not propperly set, but I never had any of those problems(mind you I keep root and user separated for obvious reasons)08:23
IaMnEwHeRebut where I am using docker and wireshark all is well with that08:23
IaMnEwHeRebtw: did you log out and in again?08:23
IaMnEwHeRebecause I have the feeling that you just added the id08:24
IaMnEwHeRegroup sry in that case enriooooooo the current environment will still run without the additional group08:24
enriooooooonot sure what is going wrong08:27
enrioooooooi didnt logout08:28
enrioooooooshould i need to try that?08:28
IaMnEwHeRemy point, maybe a restart of your UI or popping a new shell within the current shell(execute bash again) will solve the issue, as the change in configuration is not reflected in the current environment08:29
enriooooooohmmm08:31
enriooooooookay08:31
IaMnEwHeRebut just one more time for the record, it is a bad IDEA IMHO08:31
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IaMnEwHeRebecause that would basically grant all your applicatoins(e.g. your browser) admin-priviledges08:32
enrioooooooyep!08:34
enriooooooothats a bad idea08:34
enriooooooobut it can be of temporary right?08:36
oerhekssilly idea ..08:36
* IaMnEwHeRe suspects enrioooooo to be a troll08:36
enrioooooootemp admin privilege08:36
oerhekssudo -i # gives root for the rest of the session08:37
IaMnEwHeRefor that you have sudo08:37
IaMnEwHeReoerheks why would this switch even exist?08:37
* IaMnEwHeRe pulls out his last hair08:37
oerheksbecause.08:37
Kharec'morning !08:37
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MrokiiHello. Does anybody know if it's a Linux-issue, if an Android device connected via USB / ADB is going offline after a short while?09:20
tomreynMrokii: hard to tell, you'll probably increase your chances to tell by comparing the logs on both systems.09:22
tomreynubuntu has the journalctl command for this purpose (-f to follow), and android has something called "logcat"09:23
Mrokiitomreyn: Okay, thanks, I'll look into that.09:25
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Intelowhat is my ulimit? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/NJGnXpKjXy/10:46
ikoniaulimit is the command10:46
ikoniawhat limit are you looking at10:46
Inteloikonia,  thats the paste10:47
Inteloikonia, maximum files10:47
ikoniaIntelo: max number of files or max open files ? (able to access)10:48
ikoniaIntelo: basically, what is the problem you are trying to solve ?10:48
Inteloikonia, yes  I have this problem https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10355501/connect-emfile-error-in-node-js10:48
ikoniaIntelo: so it's maxium number of open files10:49
ikoniathat's the one you're interesting in10:49
Inteloikonia,  which line in the paste?10:49
ikoniathe one that says "open files"10:50
ramsub07Hi, I would like to install libvtk5-dev. but it has an unmet dependency of mpi-default-dev. How do I isntall libvtk5-dev alongwith all the dependencies? i tried `apt-get isntall -f`, it didn't work. Logs : http://dpaste.com/26HCN4710:51
ikoniaramsub07: where are you getting the libvtk5-dev package ?10:51
Inteloikonia,  ok and where it says the open file limit is?10:52
ikoniaIntelo: what ?10:52
Inteloikonia,  what is the limit of my OS for max open files at a time10:52
ikoniaIntelo: it says it in the open files bit of the paste you put in10:52
ramsub07ikonia: from aptitude10:52
ikoniain your paste10:52
ikoniaramsub07: no, that's a package manager, what repo10:52
geirhaxp10:53
ramsub07ikonia: how to figure that out?10:53
Inteloikonia,  thats the limit? but how many open files do I have at the moment?10:53
ikoniaramsub07: I don't know the aptitude syntax off the top of my head but apt-cache search and apt-cache showpkg should show it10:53
ikoniaIntelo: you're asking how many current files you have open10:54
ikonialsof is "list open files" - but you may want to man it to see if you need to specify an option to limit it to your user10:54
Inteloikonia, yes10:54
Inteloikonia, I did sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf and added fs.file-max = 65535. Did sudo sysctl -p but it seems it has not in effect?10:55
ikoniaIntelo: what effect are you looking for10:55
Inteloikonia, effect = change max limit of open files10:56
ikoniaIntelo: how are you judging that it's not changed the limit ?10:56
Inteloikonia, open files in my paste is 1024 and not 6553510:57
Inteloikonia,  to my understandings. 'open files' is the max limit10:57
ikoniaIntelo: that's because it's a "user" limit, the u in "ulimit" stands for "user"10:58
Inteloikonia, how can I see 'count' of totoal files open at the moment?10:58
ikoniaIntelo: I just told you, lsof10:58
Inteloikonia, oh ok. how to change it for system wide for all users?10:58
ikoniaIntelo: I'm not sure this is something you want to be doing10:59
Inteloikonia,  I do10:59
ikoniayou don't, certainly not in line with the problem stack exchange paste you made10:59
Intelook. at least for systemctl (root) I think and 'ubuntu' user10:59
ikoniasystemctl is a command11:00
Inteloikonia, systemctl someservice11:00
Inteloikonia, systemctl someservice start11:00
Inteloits for that service11:00
InteloI think its run by root11:00
Inteloany way11:00
InteloWhen I did sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf and added fs.file-max = 65535. For which user was this effect for?\11:00
ikoniaIntelo: it's not a user11:01
enriooooooogot into issue11:02
enriooooooowhen ever i use sudo11:02
enriooooooofollowing error display11:02
Inteloikonia, question: When I do cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max I get 65535. WHen I do ulimit -a , I get 1024. Why11:02
enriooooooomrx is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:02
ikoniaIntelo: because it's a user limit11:02
Inteloikonia,  it's not a user < the serivce is run by  a user and I need to change ulimit for that user11:02
enriooooooothats ulimit Intelo11:03
ikoniaenriooooooo: it is11:03
Inteloikonia,  and this is a system limit? cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max I get 6553511:03
ikoniaoops11:03
ramsub07ikonia: So, libvtk5-dev asks me to install openmpi-dev upon installing which it asks me to install libvtk5.8, again upon doing which it asks me to install openmpi-dev again11:03
Inteloikonia, /....11:03
ramsub07i don't understand what is going on11:03
enrioooooooyou can alter too but not prescribed Intelo11:03
Inteloenriooooooo,  whats the issue here? why I get different values11:04
enriooooooothere is limit for the system11:04
enriooooooothere is limit for users11:04
Inteloenriooooooo, oh ok.  cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max I get 65535  and  /etc/sysctl.conf and added fs.file-max = 65535  are SYSTEM limits?11:05
enrioooooooikonia, a little help11:05
enriooooooomrx is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:05
enriooooooogoogle Intelo11:06
Inteloenriooooooo, I did.11:06
Inteloenriooooooo,  if I do sudo sysctl -p won't it  be my limit too?11:06
Inteloikonia, how to permanently change my ulimit11:06
enriooooooochanging ulimit and too bashrc11:07
enriooooooowhat are you trying to do? Intelo11:08
enrioooooooanything on multithreading?11:08
Inteloenriooooooo, I have an application run by sudo systemctl start some.service . I want to increase ulimit to max for this11:08
enriooooooosee the best practice Intelo11:09
Inteloenriooooooo, what do I need to do?11:09
Inteloenriooooooo, ?11:11
enriooooooosee the best practice over google11:11
Inteloenriooooooo,  I get billions of results. which one is best practice11:12
enriooooooothere is a reason its 102411:12
enriooooooogoogle Intelo11:12
Inteloenriooooooo, ya its ok but my app needs more.11:12
Inteloenriooooooo,  I wouldn't be on irc if google had interacted with me :)11:12
InteloHow to change ulimit for all users</11:14
Inteloall systemctl services11:14
enriooooooosee .profile11:14
Inteloenriooooooo,  I did LimitNOFILE=65536  inside app.service. Is that ok11:17
Inteloenriooooooo, https://serverfault.com/a/67886111:18
Inteloenriooooooo,  is that sane?11:19
Inteloanyone else?11:22
enrioooooooyes same11:24
Inteloenriooooooo, you mean 'sane'11:25
enriooooooosame11:31
Inteloenriooooooo, ..11:31
mgedminIntelo: ooh, file limits, I hate them11:32
mgedmintoo late11:32
enrioooooooalso look for how it works , there is waiting state before it can reused11:33
enriooooooohttps://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2014-tcp-time-wait-state-linux11:35
vincenzomlhi, I installed telegram using apt (from the ubuntu repositories) and there is no "tray icon", I know these are deprecated and I don't know what my options are, and what happens when I close telegram (does it still receive messages? How to tell when it's running?)11:37
vincenzomlI'm on 19.1011:37
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mgedminthe stock ubuntu session in 19.10 ships with a gnome-shell extension that adds tray icons to the top bar, on the right-hand side11:42
enriomrx is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:43
enriowhat can i do about it?11:43
mgedminhttps://xkcd.com/838/11:46
mgedminenrio: if I'm reading the backlog correctly (and tracking your nick changes correctly), you're a member of the sudo group, right?11:48
mgedminso if sudo fails, it seems that you've edited and broken your /etc/sudoers11:48
mgedminto fix the situation you need to get root somehow and run visudo, then fix /etc/sudoers11:49
InteloHow can I be sure that the system service ulimit is in effect?11:49
mgedminenrio: the default /etc/sudoers looks like this: https://termbin.com/5awy11:49
mgedminenrio: there are multiple ways of getting root when you're locked out, e.g. select rescue in the grub boot menu then select root shell in the next menu11:51
mgedminor you can boot a live session from a usb and mount your filesystem, then edit /mnt/etc/sudoers11:51
skrI need help with udev. It doesn't create symlink and set owner. What am I doing wrong? https://pastebin.com/mjtnVmaw11:51
LuckyMandoes Ubuntu runs fine on a HP Pavilion 15-bc505np ?11:53
enrioill go through grub11:53
enrioneed to look for some article before that11:53
enrioand write it down :)11:53
mgedmincopy/paste might be easier in a live session11:53
mgedminbut all you need is one line11:53
mgedminthe one that mentions the sudo group11:53
enriovisudo? what is that11:54
mgedminit's a program that opens /etc/sudoers in vi and then checks its syntax for correctness before replacing the file11:54
mgedminit's meant as a safeguard so you won't lock yourself out of sudo if you make a syntax error11:55
enriosudoers file are used to who can run sudo command?11:55
mgedminyes11:55
oerheksenrio, still doing stuff we told you is bad ?11:55
enrio:) oerheks11:55
oerhekstime to reinstall dude11:56
BluesKajHiyas all11:57
enrionoway :! oerheks12:00
oerhekscat /etc/groups are as follows   root:x:0:mrx  .. hilarious, but a good lesson12:00
skrnevermind. I figured it out.12:01
enriogroup:passwordx:gid:users ingroup :P12:01
enrioyes good lesson12:02
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stripehi all, running 19.10-gnome with 312:45
lotuspsychjehi stripe12:45
stripehi all, running 19.10-gnome with 3 instances of chromium-snap, what would the preferred method to use/call them, either by writing a 1 line .sh script or editing the .desktop files? cheers12:49
fletcher-sanAnyone have any idea why slack 4.1.2 will not start on ubuntu 18.04? It's window opens with menus but it's all white12:54
lotuspsychjefletcher-san: did you reboot and check the slack permissions in software center?12:55
fletcher-sanlotuspsychje: No I didn't reboot yet, as that's something usually not needed on ubuntu... Where can I find the permissions in the software center?12:56
lotuspsychjefletcher-san: when you click on slack in software center, at the top there should be permissions12:56
ioriafletcher-san, might be useful start it from terminal12:57
KharecQuick question out of curiosity, can we also debate ubuntu server questions here, or devops questions related to ubuntu server ?13:04
lotuspsychje!discuss | Kharec13:04
ubottuKharec: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!13:04
rana_ansmy ubuntu works fine but it's slow considering I have a gaming laptop13:05
mgedminthere's also #ubuntu-server13:05
lotuspsychjerana_ans: define slow, with wich ubuntu version and what specs please13:05
rana_ansI have 128gb SSD but I installed ubuntu on 1TB HDD, RAM is 8GB, Im using 18.0413:06
rana_anslaptop is ASUS TUF FX505GD,13:06
rana_ansis it because I installed it on HDD instead SSD?13:06
lotuspsychjerana_ans: ok, and wich part goes 'slow' exactly?13:06
rana_anslike Im opening firefox, it takes time, like more than when Im opening chrome in windows lol13:07
rana_ansrunning gazebo takes alot of time13:07
mgedminoh yea, the speed difference between HDD and SSD is immense13:08
lotuspsychjerana_ans: well for a gaming box, 8GB is a bit low, and would be nicer if you install ubuntu on the ssd indeed13:08
mgedminwhich is especially noticeable in application startup time13:08
rana_ansyea 8gb, that was a mistake, Ill upgrade :D13:08
lotuspsychjegnome3 grabs alot of resources on 18.04 aswell, try ubuntu 19.04 or higher for a lighter gnome3 experience rana_ans13:09
rana_ansshould I install it on SSD then? coz it was hectic installing Ubuntu on ASUS, ASUS doesnt support ubuntu13:09
rana_ansIm working on ROS and I dont think all of the packages would be available in 19.0413:10
rana_ansa year ago they werent available in 18.04 I was using 16.0413:10
mgedmindo you intend to dual-boot?  128 GB might be smallish for two OSes13:10
rana_ansI have alot of softwares that I dont think run in Ubuntu so I need windows for that13:11
rana_ansand Im using ROS in my project so I need ubuntu as well13:12
rana_ansand tbh I need windows for games too xD13:12
lotuspsychjerana_ans: another option is tweaking your current gnome on 18.0413:13
rana_ansok what does that mean, I dont know much about Ubuntu13:13
lotuspsychjerana_ans: what i usualy do is, install preload, haveged, bleachbit, disable unwanted startup items & systemd services13:14
rana_ansI only have three things in startup applications13:15
lotuspsychjerana_ans: you can see the full list with a command13:15
stripehi all, where would I find the .desktop file for a snap? cheers13:15
rana_answhat command is it?13:16
lotuspsychjerana_ans: from terminal: sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop13:16
rana_ansoutputs nothing13:16
lotuspsychjerana_ans: thats normal, now more startup items will show13:17
rana_ansmost of them are GNOME settings that I dont think I should uncheck13:18
rana_ansI unchecked ukuu notifications tho13:18
rana_ansgn13:19
fletcher-sanioria: Nothing useful starting with verbose logging from terminal, I'll try to reboot..13:48
eraserpencilwould someone be kind enough to take a look at my dmesg and see if it's reporting unstable nvidia graphic card behavior.13:57
eraserpencilhttps://termbin.com/yq2s13:58
lotuspsychjeeraserpencil: wich ubuntu version and nvidia driver version are you on?13:59
eraserpencil16.04 and driver version 38413:59
eraserpencili have weird battery issues (sometimes i cant power on the laptop till i plug in the power cord) and sometimes i cant boot with a "low graphic settings detected" warning before shutting down14:00
phr34ki'm looking for gl3.h but cannot find it, what do i need to install to get it.14:00
sandman13hi, I have a stack trace of kernel crash but how can I debug what caused the issue?14:01
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eugeniohi all, some days ago I upgraded the system to 19.10. Unfortunately an app I'm used to use crash when I try to load a file into the application. All the windows close brutally. Any idea?14:12
ikoniaeugenio: what is the application and where does it come from ?14:13
eugenioikonia, the application is QGIS, I compiled it from source. Everything seems to work, only when I open the dialog to load a file the ubuntu window system crashes.14:14
ikoniathe ubuntu windows system crashes or the application crashes14:14
enriooooooothank you guys14:14
eugenioikonia, both of them14:14
enriooooooo<enriooooooo> the issue was14:14
enriooooooo<enriooooooo> i was not in sudo group14:14
enriooooooo<enriooooooo> but i was in root group14:14
enriooooooo<enriooooooo> now done the reverse14:14
enriooooooo<enriooooooo> things are working fine14:14
enriooooooo<enriooooooo> along with that added to 4(adm),24(cdrom),30(dip),46(plugdev),111(lpadmin),123(sambashare)14:14
ikoniaeugenio: can't be both of them14:14
mgedmineugenio: did you recompile it after upgrading the OS?14:14
ikoniaeugenio: are you able to use the Xwindows system at all - or does the whole thing crash14:14
eugeniomgedmin, yes of course, even now14:15
eugenioikonia, only the open windows crash14:15
ikoniaeugenio: right, so the x-windows session doens't crash, just the application window14:15
eugenionot all the xwindow system, sorry14:15
ikoniaeugenio: can you debug the process as you start it, run it in debug mode14:16
ikoniaeugenio: does the syslog or the application log show any info14:16
eugenioikonia, but not only the QGIS window, all the other open windows14:16
ikonia14:15 < eugenio> ikonia, only the open windows crash14:16
ikonia14:16 < eugenio> ikonia, but not only the QGIS window, all the other open windows14:16
ikoniawhich is it ?14:16
eugenioikonia, I can't find the app log, I read the syslog but I don't understand much14:17
ikoniaeugenio: why are you compiling it ?14:17
ikoniaeugenio: it's build and packaged by the vendor14:18
eugenioikonia, just to have the most updated version14:18
ikoniawhy14:18
ikoniaso looking at this a.) it's in the ubuntu repos b.) it's also build and shipped by the vendor14:18
ikoniayet you are chosing to use c.) build your own - when you don't really know how to do so14:19
Phruis`i want to delete lines of text starting with a phrase and ending with a ;14:19
Phruis`how can i do that?14:19
Phruis`from multiple files14:19
Phruis`is the some grep command?14:19
ikoniaPhruis`: sed with the delete function14:19
eugenioikonia, a) it's in the ubuntu repos but too old, b) doesn't exist, only ppa versions, c) I did it since long time with not too much problems14:20
eugenioikonia, so what could you suggest me?14:20
ikoniaeugenio: why is it too old in th ubuntu version, b.) does exist, the PPA is owned and managed by the vendor14:21
ikoniafor example https://qgis.org/ubuntu/14:22
Phruis`ikonia, ok thanks14:22
eugenioikonia, a) because the version is 3.4 and now we are at 3.10; b) right, but doesn't work fine with 19.10 and I knew that it is not recommended to use PPA versions; c) it always worked before for me...easily14:23
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ikoniaeugenio: what's the problem with 3.414:23
eugenioikonia, too old, less functionalities14:24
ikoniaeugenio: what functionality is missing from 3.4 that you need14:24
ikoniaeugenio: as reading the documentation on the website 3.4 is recommendend as the official long term support and stable release14:24
ikonia(by the vendor)14:25
eugenioikonia, thera are many14:26
ikoniachange log doesn't show much14:26
ikoniayou have your options though, a.) use supported version b.) learn how to build and debug software14:27
eugenioikonia, thanks14:29
Phruis`Anyone know why this isn't working?14:40
Phruis`find . -name "*" -type f | xargs sed -i -e "/SET @@GLOBAL.GTID_PURGED=\*;'/d"14:40
pragmaticenigmaPhruis`: I'm not overly familiar with sed... if * is a wild card, are you supposed to escape it?14:55
Phruis`pragmaticenigma, yeah14:56
Phruis`but its odd all the examples show using sed with an s/ command but when i try to use it I get an unknown command14:56
mgedmin-name "*" looks very strange to me, do you want files literally named '*'?14:57
pragmaticenigmamgedmin: it doesn't serve any purpose... -type f already returns all files... not sure what purpose the -name "*" has, as it just gets everything anyways14:58
Phruis`its returning the files properly14:59
Phruis`but the sed command isn't deleting the text14:59
Phruis`i can see it going through every file with this15:00
mgedminnot enough backslashes?  bash sees "...\*..." and passes ...*... to sed, sed sees * and thinks you mean "zero or more = signs followed by ;"15:00
Phruis`find . -name "*" -type f | xargs sed -i.bak -e "s/SET @@GLOBAL.GTID_PURGED=.*;/d"15:00
mgedminI tend to prefer regex quoting with [*] instead of \*, to avoid this kind of problem15:00
Phruis`i can try that15:01
Phruis`no luck15:02
Phruis`i want to look through all text starting with "SET @@GLOBAL.GTID_PURGED=" and it ends with ";"15:03
Phruis`i want to delete it and everything in between15:03
Phruis`but all the examples I have seen even basic ones do no work15:03
Phruis`i must be doing something wrong15:03
benjaomingDoes anyone know about this process and what it's doing? "/usr/bin/python3 /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown --wait-for-signal"15:04
revolt112the unattended-updates-shutdown script temporarily inhibits a shutdown signal until apt finishes15:06
bynariemaybe python3 was upgrading and waiting for a shutdown/reboot?15:06
pragmaticenigmabenjaoming: It's a regularly schedule job that pulls down the latest packages for apt and applies patches to installed packages that do not require user involvement15:06
pragmaticenigmabenjaoming: Also known as "Unattended Updates"15:07
k_szeugh. Trying to install Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron is such a hassle.15:09
k_szeThe UEFI boot entry that the installer makes is just wrong.15:09
tomreynbenjaoming: i suspect you have set the unattended-upgrades option to install pending upgrades on reboot, and this process will trigger this installation once it detects a shutdown signal.15:10
k_szeI try to add back the correct UEFI boot entry in the BIOS, but I have no idea which is which (because the file system lists are just UUIDs)15:10
tomreynbenjaoming: i.e. Unattended-Upgrade::InstallOnShutdown "true";  in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades15:12
benjaomingthanks a million tomreyn - seems that I have some kind of unwanted thing going on in an Ansible role!15:12
tomreynyou're welcome.15:13
bynariek_sze, you probably have to add the EFI to your "allowed" boot images in BIOS. And you want to select shimx64.efi for boot image15:14
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benjaomingtomreyn: strange, I had a look and the line to do unattended upgrades was commented out, as in: //Unattended-Upgrade::InstallOnShutdown "true" -- does this denote that the default value is True? I tried setting it to "false" and running "systemctl restart unattended-upgrades.service" -- but a new similar process is spawned.15:48
benjaomingI had a look, and it seems that "/usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown" is a script that is supposed to halt a shutdown in case an unattended upgrade is taking place.15:50
unixbassenthe ultimate linux portable laptop is a Dell XPS, Surface or a ThinkPad?15:51
lotuspsychjeunixbassen: we dont really take polls here15:51
lotuspsychjeunixbassen: the focus lays on the support of ubuntu issues15:51
unixbassenroger15:52
tomreynbenjaoming: i guess you must be right, i also see this proces son systems which are not configured to install updates on shutdown (and 'false' is default for sure)15:53
lotuspsychjeunixbassen: ##linux or ##hardware perhaps?15:53
akkunixbassen: Watch out with the Dell XPS -- googling dell xps 13 linux wifi convinced me to get something else.15:53
ajkesselI recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.10 and haven't been able to use the local X server via a remote ssh connection. "who" shows a local user logged in via gdm3/gdm-x-session on tty :0. I connect via ssh as that user, export DISPLAY=:0, but any X application gives error "No protocol specified / unable to open display :0." xhost + also gives the same error. I tried adding DisallowTCP=false to gdm3/custom.conf, but it doesn't change anything. Any suggest15:53
ioriabenjaoming, if you have automatic updates enabled, i advice to leave it alone15:53
unixbassenakk: even the ubuntu born dell xps models?15:53
akkunixbassen: I would hope the more expensive ones that come with Linux don't have that problem.15:55
unixbassenright15:55
akkThough it kind of bothers me to pay a big premium to get the free OS option.15:55
unixbassenwas just curious, because of your statement about wifi not working, but that must be the xps with windows15:56
tomreynajkessel: i guess you'd need to both X forwarding on the ssh server and to enable it on the client's ssh connection15:56
lotuspsychjeakk unixbassen please seek a more right channel for this discussion15:57
ajkesseltomreyn: Do I need X forwarding when I'm trying to display the X window on the local host, not the host I am connecting from? I thought forwarding was only for the latter.15:57
ramsub07Hi. I started matlab from commandline but I used ctrl+z to kill it. The process now has an ever increasing PID and I am unable to kill it. Can someone here please help me out15:57
akkSorry, didn't realize it was offtopic here. unixbassen, ##linux might be a better place.15:57
unixbassenyeah ok :)15:57
ajkesseltomreyn: to be clear, I have no problem connecting to this remote system  and displaying X applications on the system I am connecting from. But I want the X applications to open locally on the remote system.15:58
tomreynajkessel: you need X forwarding to show the graphical output of an application running remotely on the X server local to the ssh client15:58
ajkesseltomreyn: I want the graphical output to open on the remote system, not my local system.15:59
tomreynajkessel: oh, i got you wrong there then. i haven't done it this way around, not sure then.15:59
ramsub07Hi, how do i kill a process with ever incrementing PID?16:08
kdmiller45I have 1 public IP and have two different webserver one is a apache up and working fine, I have a 2nd server running nginx how do I confgure that16:14
akkramsub07: If the PID is changing, you're getting new processes started, so it depends on what's starting it.16:15
kxsldoes anyone know how to use mono? when i try to run an application with it, it tells me presentationframework version 4 is missing. on windows, that means .NET 4 support is missing. is there another package besides mono-runtime that needs to be installed?16:16
lordcirth_kdmiller45, what do you want it to do?16:16
kdmiller45I am host multiple website on the apache all working fine, but the install of diaspora also installed nginx for its applicatin16:16
lordcirth_kxsl, if you install "mono-complete" you should have everything16:17
pragmaticenigmakdmiller45: does the nginx instance require public access from the Internet?16:17
kdmiller45yes16:17
kdmiller45it is a decentralized social nework server16:17
lordcirth_kdmiller45, ok, so you probably want to set nginx to listen on, say, 127.0.1.42, and configure apache to forward to it.16:17
lordcirth_Ie, a new vhost that just proxies16:18
kdmiller45is there instruction docuement to follow on that16:19
pragmaticenigmakdmiller45: Best option is what lordcirth_ recomends, which I believe is also known as a reverse proxy16:19
lordcirth_kdmiller45, search for "apache reverse proxy"16:19
kdmiller45thanks was just going to say that, thanks again for the help16:19
lordcirth_you're welcome16:20
ajkesselps aux|grep session16:20
ajkesseloops16:20
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ajkesselTrying to post my question to Ubuntu Forums and I always get 'You don't have permission to access /newthread.php on this server.'. Is there any workaround? I'm properly logged in.16:42
EriC^^where are you getting that error?16:46
EriC^^browser?16:46
ioriaajkessel, no idea, maybe character limit or orthographic issue16:46
ioriaajkessel, can you pastebinit the full text ?16:47
kxsllordcirth_, mono-complete doesn't make a difference. removed that16:48
lordcirth_kxsl, what mono version do you have? Perhaps you need newer16:48
kxslwhatever is in ubuntu 1804. was .net4 support added that recently in mono that a newer version will make a difference?16:50
kdmiller45ok next question, if I host multiple domain email box do I need to put those domain names in the ubuntu hostname file16:51
ajkesselThis is what I'm trying to post to Ubuntu Forum https://pastebin.com/raw/c7Q3zD4E16:52
lordcirth_kxsl, I'm not sure, but 18.04 has 4.6, and the latest is 6.4. Sounds like a big jump16:52
ajkesselioria: is that what you meant by pastebinit?16:53
ioriaajkessel, yep16:53
ioriaajkessel, try to remove the TAGS16:54
ajkesselioria: that worked. I guess it didn't like my tags.16:54
ioriaheheheh16:54
ajkesselioria: the tags I was trying to use were 'gdm, ssh, remote access, xorg'16:54
ioriaajkessel, i see16:55
Huliohi guys, anyone know how to install amdgpu-pro ? i install and it can't detect that i have it17:27
Hulioi have RX Vega17:27
Hulioi have ubuntu 16.0417:28
Huliothis is very frustrated17:28
Hulioif anyone willingly to help, please let me know. i have Teamviewer17:28
Menzador|Work!amdgpu | Hulio17:30
ubottuHulio: Open drivers for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). AMD has a closed driver named amdgpu-pro that supports the same cards as amdgpu, but it is generally unnecessary. FGLRX is not supported in any current Ubuntu version or in this channel. For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units17:30
Menzador|WorkWhy do you need -pro?17:30
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ncuxoHello I've messed up while using rsync in ubuntu 19.10 and I've sync my files to my /media directory is it safe to delete the whole content of the /media directory ?17:32
pragmaticenigmancuxo: Only you can answer that question. If it was me... I would verify that those files are in their proper homes before I delete what might be the only copy17:36
ncuxothey are17:37
ncuxoI've just deleted everything17:37
ncuxoI was just wondering if that could cause some trouble for the os17:37
ncuxoafter all I haven't delete anything that deep and wanted to make sure :D17:38
mikubuntui picked up a 320 gb iomega drive at a garage sale, and i believe it was full of data in msdos format from what i could surmise from viewing partition in gparted -- anyways, whatever was on it (i hope not a gazzillion $$$ in bitcoin) i think i successfuly deleted, but now i need to reformat (and mount?) the drive to use for backing up my ubuntu files. i don't know how to do that. lol.17:38
ncuxomikubuntu: use gparted :)17:39
ncuxoor dd17:39
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mikubuntualso, i assumed this drive was SSD but i don't actually see "SSD" anywhere on the packaging, and it sort of buzzes in my hand17:40
mikubuntuncuxo: yeah i know i have to use gparted, but i don't know what settings or partitions to make17:41
ncuxoif it buzzes it should be a mechanical ;)17:41
ncuxoext417:41
mikubuntuncuxo: so not fat32?17:41
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ncuxoare you planning on using it on other systems17:42
mikubuntuncuxo: what about the space preceeding the partition?17:42
ncuxoif you are going to use it for backup of your ubuntu no need for fat17:42
ncuxomy backup drive uses the whole disk and its the only partition17:43
ncuxonot sure if that is the proper way but this is how I've done it17:43
mikubuntuncuxo: what about exporting files or data would that be a problem if i was exporting to other system?17:43
ncuxoYes it wont be compatable with other systems17:44
ncuxomikubuntu: https://www.wikihow.com/Format-a-Hard-Drive-Using-Ubuntu try this guide17:45
ncuxoon the gparted part at point 9 they talk about the partition format17:45
Huliois anyone willing to help me out?18:17
Huliowhen i do claymore, this is what it said: AMD OpenCL platform not found18:18
Huliowhy is it so complicated just to get amd graphic card to work ?18:18
Huliothe driver i got from this: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-prorad-lin-18-2018:19
lordcirth_Hulio, you generally don't want to use drivers directly from the manufacturer. Did you try Ubuntu's driver tool first?18:20
Hulioi dont know how18:20
Huliowhat are you talking about?18:20
Huliowhere can i get it from ubuntu ?18:20
lordcirth_Hulio, you run "ubuntu-drivers devices", and if your card shows up properly, "sudo ubuntu-drivers install"18:22
Huliowhat is this: modalias : pci:v000014E4d0000432Bsv00001028sd0000000Dbc02sc80i0018:23
Huliothe rest is obvous, not video card18:23
lordcirth_Hulio, don't worry about that, look at "model"18:25
Hulioi see nothing about GPU18:25
lordcirth_Also, what Ubuntu version are you using?18:25
Hulio1618:25
Huliohow to check?18:25
Hulioi'm very noob in this18:25
Hulio16.04 LTS18:26
Hulioi saw it from about18:26
lordcirth_Hulio, please paste the output of "ubuntu-drivers devices" at bpaste.net18:26
lordcirth_And post the link here.18:26
Huliook18:26
Hulioi wish you can Teamviewer to my mahcine18:27
Huliomachine*18:27
Huliohere is the link: https://bpaste.net/show/6NSZ618:29
Huliodid you see the link yet ?18:31
Hulioare you still there ?18:32
pragmaticenigmaHulio: It helps to prefix your messages with the individual that was helping you... in most IRC clients you can type the first few letters and press tab to auto complete18:32
Huliopragmaticenigma, i got disconnected , forgot his user name18:33
Hulio:)18:33
pragmaticenigmaHulio: lordcirth_ was trying to help oyu18:33
Huliolordcirth_, are you still there ?18:34
Huliomy firefox keep on crashing after amd install thing18:34
pragmaticenigmaHulio: I would start with removing the AMD driver you installed18:35
Huliohow ?18:36
Hulioi was installing the amdgpu pro18:36
ioriaamdgpu-pro-uninstall18:36
Hulioioria, that's done now18:37
Hulioioria, no more crash18:38
Huliobut then, how to get my rx vega 56 to work?18:38
ioriaHulio, lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D' | termbin.com 999918:38
pragmaticenigmaHulio: Now try the "ubuntu-drivers devices" and see if your card is listed18:38
Huliotermbin.com: command not found18:39
ioriaHulio, lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 999918:39
Huliohttps://termbin.com/d1vn18:39
Hulioioria, there is the link, what's next ?18:40
ioriaHulio, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu  | nc termbin.com 999918:40
Huliohttps://termbin.com/hm9t18:41
HulioIolo, man, for me to know what your'e doing....good luck to me18:41
Hulio:)18:41
ioriaHulio, ok, what's the problem exactly ? idk this claymore thing18:42
Huliobasically , claymore miner need OpenCL18:43
Hulioit need AMD driver installed18:43
ioriaah18:43
Hulioin windows 10, it is so simple18:43
Hulioinstall the driver and run:)18:44
ioriaHulio, what's your kernel  uname -r18:44
hatchetjackanyone use keepalived?18:44
Hulioioria v18:44
Hulioioria 4.15.0-66-generic18:44
ioriaHulio,  cat /etc/issue18:44
HulioUbuntu 16.04.6 LTS \n \l18:45
ioriaHulio,  yes, you probably need amdgpu-pro18:46
Hulioyeah, i install but not working18:46
Huliothe miner didn't see18:46
Huliolet me give you my Teamviewer id and pass18:46
Hulioin PM18:46
pragmaticenigma!pm | Hulio18:47
ubottuHulio: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.18:47
ioriaHulio,  run the installer in this way './amdgpu-pro-install -y --opencl=legacy'18:47
Hulioi did that before18:47
Huliobut i do that again18:47
ioriaHulio,  no, please no TV18:48
Huliook, i'l be right back18:48
Huliothanks for you help18:48
Hulioioria , thanks, boss is coming18:49
hatchetjackminer?18:49
hatchetjackwe mining crypto or something?18:49
Hulioioria, after install with that optino, still saying: No AMD OPENCL or NVIDIA CUDA GPUs found, exit18:49
ioriaHulio,  what version of driver are you installing ?18:50
doug16kI saw the same thing happening on a friend's machine. clinfo was reporting nothing with amdpro driver install18:54
doug16kon my nvidia drivers clinfo shows a ton of info18:54
Hulioioria, got it from here: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-prorad-lin-18-2019:03
Hulioioria, amdgpu-pro-18.20-684755-ubuntu-16.0419:04
pragmaticenigmaHulio: You may find better help getting with your setup by seeking a forum/online community for claymore ... There is a better chance of finding someone with a similar setup to yours that can help you along19:06
Hulioman, seem like this is complicated then19:07
johnjayquestion. how do i change launch parameters for programs in the ubuntu bar to the left?19:08
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johnjaythe Details option simply goes to software center.19:08
doug16kHulio, what does this command say: clinfo19:10
doug16k(you might need to sudo apt install clinfo)19:10
HulioNumber of platforms                               019:11
Huliolooks like i'm about to give this up19:13
Huliothis couldn't be complicated19:13
doug16kHulio, have you looked at this: https://community.amd.com/thread/22571219:14
doug16kseems to fit your scenario19:14
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doug16ktl;dr: try installing the amd drivers with --opencl=rocm19:15
Huliodoug16k, browser keep on crash: Gah. Your tab just crashed.19:15
Huliomaybe I need to uninstall amdgpu again19:15
doug16ksounds plausible19:15
pragmaticenigmaHulio: Are you rebooting between driver installs and uninstalls?19:16
Huliono19:16
Huliohave not reboot19:16
coz_^^^^19:16
pragmaticenigmaHulio: drivers can't load if you don't reboot19:16
pragmaticenigmathat's why things are crashing... half your system is still using the currently loaded display driver, the other half is trying to make use of the newly installed... it's going to cause you to have a very bad time19:17
IarlaI'm looking for libcurl, but C only, not C++. Is libcurl3 the right one to install?20:01
ioriaIarla, maybe some details on what you want to do, and what does it mean 'but C only, not C++' ?20:04
IarlaI'm creating a C program (not a C++ / object oriented one). I need to include libcurl but the only one I've found in the repositories is for c++ (libcurlpp-dev). My application will use curl to retrieve resources over http.20:07
Iarlaioria: ^20:07
EriC^^Iarla: i think it's libcurl3 for just c support20:08
IarlaThanks EriC^^ !20:09
coreymanI'm trying to use ifupdown2 on Ubuntu 19.10. I've created my /etc/network/interfaces file and executed `ifdown ens3` and `ifup ens3` Everything works, except I have an old ip address listed as the primary, not the one in my /etc/network/interfaces file. How do I configure ubuntu 19.10 to only use ifupdown2 ?20:10
ioriaIarla, if you install librul3 it will remove libcurl420:10
lordcirth_coreyman, why are you using ifupdown? It's been deprecated since 18.0420:10
coreymanlordcirth_ because I want to :P20:11
pragmaticenigmacoreyman: Those commands have all been superseeded by systemd and Network Manager / netplan20:11
ioriaIarla, what release is in use there ?20:11
Iarlaioria: there doesn't seem to be a curl3-dev candidate for 16.04. Only 4 is available. I'm getting the error "curl.h: No such file or dir" against that though.20:11
coreymanpragmaticenigma yes I know, and I want to configure network manager / netplan to let me use ifupdown20:11
pragmaticenigmacoreyman: They aren't compatible from what I know20:11
ioriaIarla, are you on xenial 16.04 ?20:11
coreymanpragmaticenigma i dont want them to be compatible. I just want to use ifupdown220:12
Iarlaioria: yes, 16.0420:12
Ben64coreyman: ip link set <interface> up20:12
pragmaticenigmacoreyman: It's an option you are free to pursue, you might have better luck asking in ##networking20:13
coreymanBen64 ifupdown is working, but something is sticking the address I chose upon install as the primary and my /etc/network/interfaces ip address as the secondary20:13
ioriaIarla,  dpkg -l | grep curl | nc termbin.com 999920:13
Ben64coreyman: use the right command20:13
hatchetjackso I've uninstalled netplan and migrated back to ifupdown20:14
pragmaticenigmacoreyman: is systemd-networkd enabled and running?20:14
hatchetjackhowever the stuff in /etc/resolv.conf seems to still be under the control of maybe systemd20:14
hatchetjackhow can I completely move back to ifupdown and not have any netplan or systemd-network?20:15
Ben64hatchetjack: good luck with that, it's not supported here20:15
coreyman@hatchetjack welcome to the club20:15
ikoniahatchetjack: it's not something you want to do20:15
hatchetjackBen64: well supported or not for keepalived to work properly it's a must20:15
coreymanIt is something we want to do... lol20:16
ikoniahatchetjack: as much as you dislike systemd - you need to accept it, netplan however, it's up to you if you want, just keep in mind each release keeps moving it to a more deprecated state20:16
hatchetjackit has nothing to do with a dislike or systemd20:16
ioriaIarla,  you probably need libcurl4-gnutls-dev, but please see the cmd i posted above20:16
Iarlaioria: thanks. https://termbin.com/dngw20:16
ikoniahatchetjack: what is it to do with then ?20:16
hatchetjackit has to do with keepalived working or not working20:16
pragmaticenigmaUbuntu relies on systemd-networkd to provide networking service to the system. ALL of the applications and services that are also installed with Ubuntu are configured to operate with systemd-networkd... removing it breaks other applications and services. This is why it is not supported here20:16
rafaeldtinocohatchetjack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keepalived/+bug/181510120:16
hatchetjackand I'm not interested in what's supported or not20:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1815101 in keepalived (Ubuntu Eoan) "[master] Restarting systemd-networkd breaks keepalived, heartbeat, corosync, pacemaker (interface aliases are restarted)" [Medium,In progress]20:16
hatchetjackneed to think outside the box and fix it20:16
rafaeldtinocois this related?20:16
ikoniahatchetjack: so keepalived is prety obsolete20:16
akkIf you want to control your network manually, uninstalling network-manager is best, just disabling it usually doesn't work well.20:16
hatchetjackikonia: obsolete by what?20:17
akkI did that for years on debian, but I have n-m on my current ubuntu system.20:17
Iarlaioria: tried libcurl4-gnutls-dev also. Same error though.20:17
ioriaIarla,  curl.h  is in libcurl4-gnutls-dev20:17
ikoniahatchetjack: sorry, that was not a great description, I mean it's not being kept up to date with a lot of the current distro roadmaps20:17
IarlaHmmm. I'm including it using <...> rather than "...".20:17
ikoniahatchetjack: sorry, that was terrible, I was trying to not say "legacy" which isn't true either20:17
ioriaIarla,  ls /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/curl/curl.h20:17
hatchetjackikonia: I think what you mean to say is that it has some bugs perhaps that keep it from playing nice with netplan?20:18
hatchetjackmaybe something along those lines20:18
ioriaIarla,  . is for local angular is the correct way20:18
pragmaticenigmaikonia: The word I think you're looking for is superseeded20:18
Iarlaioria: "No such file or directory"20:18
rafaeldtinocohatchetjack: check bug I pasted20:18
ikoniahatchetjack: no, it's not just netplan,20:18
rafaeldtinocoim putting a flag into systemd-networkd20:18
rafaeldtinocoto keep aliases for interfaces20:18
rafaeldtinocoand dont break interconnects20:18
hatchetjackwhich there are some features keepalived has but only in certain network environments20:18
rafaeldtinocofor all kinds of HA services20:18
hatchetjacklike mutlicast and what not20:18
ioriaIarla,  is there : https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libcurl4-gnutls-dev/filelist20:19
hatchetjackrafaeldtinoco: ETA on the fix?20:19
ioriaIarla,  sudo apt install --reinstall libcurl4-gnutls-dev20:19
Iarlaioria: locate finds it at /usr/include/curl/curl.h20:20
hatchetjackneed this pretty soon for production20:20
hatchetjackeverything works fine now except dns20:20
rafaeldtinocohatchetjack: what version are you relying on ?20:20
ikoniadon't say 19.1020:20
coreymanWell I was trying to keep my ubuntu template installer in line with my debian one so that they both use ifupdown2..... If I have to make a completely seperate configuration manager for ubuntu how do I change this yaml file? Do I really have to go through all of this to customize ip configuration for netplan?20:21
coreymanhttps://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/ubuntu-how-tos/netplan-how-to-configure-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-18-04-using-netplan.html20:21
ioriaIarla,  ok, so it should work20:21
hatchetjackguess if systemd wants to handle that maybe I can configure it to pop the address into /etc/resolve.conf instead of /etc/network/interfaces20:21
hatchetjackrafaeldtinoco: whatever is in 19.1020:21
hatchetjackI mean20:21
rafaeldtinocowell if that is your issue, likely unrelated to what im fixing20:21
hatchetjackyeah 19.1020:21
hatchetjacklatest version20:21
ikonia19.10 is pretty much the most integrated into netplan and systemd possible20:21
ikoniaand also has a short lifespan20:22
hatchetjackit also has haproxy 2.x20:22
ikoniadon't depend on that for production (in my personal view)20:22
hatchetjackand is the only one that does20:22
Iarlaioria: my file has only includes for now. #include <stdio.h> (new line) #include <curl.h> (new line) int main(void){}. And I compile with gcc -o myapp myapp.c20:22
coreymanAnyone have a good document with examples for configuring static ip with netplan ?20:22
ioriaIarla,  add -lcurl20:23
hatchetjackwhat would you guys do if you wanted ubuntu with haproxy 2.x and keepalived?20:23
lordcirth_hatchetjack, why do you need HAProxy 2.0+20:23
lordcirth_?*20:23
ikoniahatchetjack: I wouldn't depend on a "broken" interaction20:23
ikoniahatchetjack: I know that's not the answer you want, but if you're not sure if it will work, depending on it for prod seems a bad model20:24
pragmaticenigmacoreyman: https://netplan.io/examples20:24
ioriaIarla,  gcc -o myapp myapp.c  -lcurl20:24
Ben64hatchetjack: i'd think about what i actually need to accomplish and find a tool that would help accomplish that goal20:24
coreymanThanks pragmaticenigma20:24
hatchetjackso basically you guys have no solutions or fixes to any problems20:25
hatchetjackyou just tell people they aren't doing it right20:25
Ben64hatchetjack: if they aren't doing it right, yes20:25
hatchetjackright but when I ask how you would do it I get nothing20:25
ikoniahatchetjack: well, lets look at some options20:25
ikoniahatchetjack: what's the use case you've got to meet20:25
Ben64you got two responses20:25
Ben64three actually20:26
hatchetjackwant ubuntu with haproxy 2.x20:26
hatchetjackthose are the main requirements20:26
ikoniahatchetjack: ok - what's the requirement for haproxy220:26
ikoniahatchetjack: that can't be the main requirement as you also need keepalived20:26
hatchetjackwe'd like to use some features that are only availabe in the new version20:26
ikoniaso what's the actual real requirement20:26
ikoniahatchetjack: such as ?20:26
ikonia(just one or two examples as that shows what other options are available)20:26
lordcirth_hatchetjack, do you need those features right now? And what features?20:26
hatchetjackdoes it matter what features?20:27
ikoniasure, if we are trying to meet the use case20:27
PeGaSuShi guys. I'm having a weird issue: Failed to reload daemon: Refusing to reload, not enough space available on /run/systemd. Currently, 10.3M are free, but a safety buffer of 16.0M is enforced.20:27
hatchetjackubuntu + keepalived playing nice with whatever network subsystem + haproxy 2.x20:27
hatchetjackthat's it20:27
PeGaSuSany hints how to solve this?20:27
ikoniahatchetjack: yeah, that's not the requirement20:27
ikoniahatchetjack: that's you just stating software components20:27
hatchetjackif you can't help me then I'll figure it out on my own and stop wasting my time here20:27
hatchetjackI don't see how telling you what features we'd like to use is relevant20:28
ikoniahatchetjack: ok, you asked for options, so I just wanted to know the use case, but you're welcome to progress on your own20:28
ikoniagood look20:28
ikonialuck even20:28
Iarlaioria: got it. My include should have had the directory prepended: #include <curl/curl.h>20:28
hatchetjackas if I need to justify what I'm doing to you or something like that20:28
ioriaIarla,  ok20:28
Iarlaioria: sorry for the wild goose chase. Haven't coded C since the late 90's :)20:28
ikoniayou don't need to justify anything, just looking for the usecase as you asked for options20:28
ikoniaif you work out how to do it, maybe helpful to post in that bug report, as it's seems quite a tricky one20:29
hatchetjackI've already got it working20:29
ikoniasuper20:29
ikonianice job20:29
ikoniahow did you do it ?20:29
hatchetjackI installed ifupdown and purged netplan.io20:29
ikoniahatchetjack: you're aware that ifupdown is going away though right ?20:29
hatchetjackI merely want /etc/resolv.conf to stay put and not be changed by systemd20:30
hatchetjackikonia: yes eventually20:30
rafaeldtinocostop systemd-networkd and install resolvconf20:30
hatchetjackbasically what you're saying is that keepalived doesn't work on ubuntu kthx bye20:30
ikoniahatchetjack: super, so as long as you're aware that you'll need to deal with this at some point,20:30
hatchetjackright?20:30
ikoniahatchetjack: no-one is saying that at all20:30
hatchetjackrafaeldtinoco: I failed to mention that I did install resolveconf20:30
hatchetjackhad not stopped systemd-networkd though20:31
rafaeldtinocook.. so there are several options20:31
rafaeldtinocofor what you're trying to do20:31
rafaeldtinocousing ifupdown + resolvconf is one20:31
hatchetjackrafaeldtinoco: testing that now with systemd-networkd disabled20:32
rafaeldtinocothat will work, ikonia is trying to say that20:32
rafaeldtinocopossibly next version wont have ifupdown20:32
rafaeldtinocothus having it working with systemd-networkd and systemd-resolved would be good20:32
rafaeldtinocofor that to happen, that bug I pointed out has to be solved to eoan (your version)20:32
rafaeldtinocoit will be soon20:32
rafaeldtinocothats it, for now, keep using ifupdown20:32
rafaeldtinocoas your interfaces wont be restarted20:33
rafaeldtinocoand keepalived wont brake20:33
rafaeldtinocoafter that bug is solved you may try systemd-networkd/netplan approach20:33
rafaeldtinocothats it20:33
hatchetjackI'd like to migrate back to netplan/systemd at some point20:33
hatchetjackafter the bugs are sorted20:33
rafaeldtinocoas soon as that bug is solved20:33
rafaeldtinocoyep20:33
rafaeldtinocothen netplan will put a flag in .network files (for systemd-networkd)20:33
rafaeldtinocokeepconfiguration=20:33
rafaeldtinocoand that will tell networkd not to restart aliases20:34
rafaeldtinococreated by external HA tools20:34
rafaeldtinocolike pacemaker/keepalived/CTDB etc20:34
rafaeldtinocofor now, if you restart systemd-networkd (or simply apply netplan conf) you will brake all aliases20:34
rafaeldtinocoand, your case, the VRRP interfaces20:34
rafaeldtinocomaking the HA software to believe there was an issue20:34
rafaeldtinocoTL;DR -> sign to the bug, wait it to be solved20:35
rafaeldtinocouse ifupdown / resolvconf meanwhile20:35
hatchetjackright20:35
hatchetjackand no failover occurs20:35
rafaeldtinocofailover is good with ifupdown (or at least should be)20:35
hatchetjackit is20:35
hatchetjackalready tested that20:35
rafaeldtinocoyep20:35
rafaeldtinocoalright, so thats it20:35
rafaeldtinocofollow that bug then20:35
hatchetjackrafaeldtinoco: excellent20:35
rafaeldtinoco;)20:36
hatchetjackwhat you suggested is what I needed to complete this solution20:36
hatchetjackI'm documenting everything so when the bug is fixed I can get back to netplan20:36
hatchetjackappreciate your insight20:36
rafaeldtinocosure, im gonna document HA for 20.0420:36
rafaeldtinocoincluding that corner case20:36
rafaeldtinocogiving examples etc20:36
rafaeldtinocothats one of my todos20:36
hatchetjackvery good20:36
rafaeldtinocolets see if time is nice to me20:36
rafaeldtinoco=)20:37
hatchetjackI look forward to the bug being resolved20:38
hatchetjackthanks again20:38
rafaeldtinocomy pleasure20:38
Hulioioria, i finally solved it20:39
Hulioinstall amdgpu-pro will headless20:40
Huliodamn it, I just can't believe no one able to resolve this, even i google up via online20:40
Hulioseem like it is too complicated for a single option in the install line20:40
Hulioit is working flawlessly now :)20:40
ioriaHulio, --headless option is used when the machine is running without any desktop environment20:43
Huliooh20:43
ioriaHulio, neither x11 or wayland20:43
Huliowell, don't know why it works now20:43
tomreynHulio: amdgpu drivers suually work out of the box on ubuntu (there can be exceptions for specific older hardware models and very new hardware, as well as some APUs on older kernel versions). we don't recommend or support amdgpu-*pro* here20:44
ioriaHulio, and the exact cmd you used for that ?20:44
Hulioamdgpu-pro-install --opencl=legacy,pal --headless20:44
Hulioafter  that, reboot, works20:44
Hulioclaymore works :)20:44
ioriaHulio, but if you have Vega 10 is not legacy ...20:44
Huliooh, but it works20:45
Hulioshould i update to 18.04 ?20:45
Hulionot sure if that is going to break anything20:45
Hulioand how can i upgrade via Terminal ?20:45
Hulioanyone ?20:45
ioriaHulio, is --opencl=pal20:45
Hulioioria, how to upgrade to 18.04 ?20:46
ioriaHulio, but is ok20:46
Huliovia commandline20:46
ioriaHulio, better a fresh install20:47
Hulioi see20:47
Huliowell, it is working as is...better not to bother doing it20:47
Huliowell, thanks all your works20:47
Huliomy window rig keep craash once a while20:48
HulioI hope linux doesn't need to reboot20:48
Huliocan ubuntu run of USB stick ?20:54
Huliolet say i install ubuntu to usb stick will it run as the SSD20:55
Hulioeven it is speed is slower, that's fine, as long it can run20:55
HulioI'll have to try to install ubuntu to USB stick20:55
Huliomaybe need a bit faster usb speed20:55
ash_worksiHulio: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#020:56
Hulioash_worksi, lol, sorry you miss my point20:57
Ben64Hulio: yes it'll work, it'll be very slow20:57
Hulioslow is okay :)20:58
HulioI use it for mining20:58
Ben64and depending on the drive, it might die soon20:58
Hulioand test out comparing with windows 10, to see how stable it is20:58
Hulioi remember ubuntu have compiz21:09
Huliothat got removed ?21:09
HulioWill Microsoft ever release Office for Linux?Short Answer: No, Microsoft will never release Office suite for Linux. Long Answer: I believe Linux distributions are in a frenzy, there is no direction, there's no market force to call the shots.Aug 2, 201821:11
tomreynHulio: there's #ubuntu-discuss for on-topic discussions and #ubuntu-offtopic. *this* channel is just for support.21:14
AavarHi. I am having issues with lightdm. It wont start for some reason... I did try to purge lightdm*, but after installing lightdm again it wont even start properly... any idea? I can start other DMs21:15
genii!info compiz21:17
ubottucompiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9.14.0+19.10.20190918-0ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 4 kB, installed size 116 kB21:17
roothorickokay, I have two systems running 18.04 (server, but that shouldn't matter, right?) that, when shutting down, instead of doing the local ACPI turnoff, I want to send a request over the network to the UPS, to turn off the outlet group the system is connected to. This is done via a proprietary SNMP endpoint21:26
roothorickThe two systems are on different outlet groups on the same UPS (which is why it must be done over the network), and the UPS is smart enough to turn them back on after power returns21:27
roothorickI recall seeing a config option to leave network interfaces enabled, but then how do I make systemd issue the SNMP commands at the end of the shutdown sequence?21:28
Phruiswhat library does files use to connect to sftp ?22:07
Phruisi think i am missing it22:07
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danilomhi, want to know if someone tell me how to check what driver is using my graphics card, radeon hd 7850, im using ubuntu 18.04, also try with lspci, but cant remember now how to do it, anyone send me a clue? thanks22:28
johnjaylsmod?22:28
tomreynlspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999922:29
danilomok let me try,, if i can see the module of the graphics card22:29
tomreynit'll be amdgpu probably22:29
Bashing-omdanilom: A couple of ways: - sudo lshw -C display ; lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' - .22:30
johnjaywhy is it a "VGA Controller"? isn't everything hdmi22:31
danilomok thanks, i can see Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu22:31
danilomthanks all22:31
danilomso im using the opensource that comes with default installation22:32
tomreynone of the two, yes22:32
danilomIm very surprised to find a lot of people here, last time i used IRC i think was 8 years ago, im very happy to see old way still live, thanks guys22:33
tomreynmost aren't as active ;)22:34
Sbur3Is there a way to send text messages to a cell phone (Verizon, for example) through the internet and not from my cell phone in Europe?22:36
Sbur3Where it would display on the Verizon cell phone in the USA?22:37
daxSbur3: not really on-topic for #ubuntu, but: putting the 10-digit number and then @vtext.com (e.g. 5551234567@vtext.com) used to work, no idea if it still does22:38
bpromptSbur3:  last I checked, www.vtext.com works22:38
bpromptSbur3:  bearing in mind that we're offtopic :)22:39
daxSbur3: i.e., in the To: part of an email, with the body text under 140 chars)22:39
Sbur3dax: bprompt: s many channels, but I didn't know where to ask.  What to put in the subject ... if anything?22:40
daxi'd just leave it blank22:40
Sbur3dax: Ok.  I saw it as an option, but it didn't seem to work22:41
bpromptSbur3:  check dax's line above, but usually is the phone number, no dashes, @someprovider, all provider or most have some SMS server that can take it from an email send22:41
Sbur3dax: bprompt: I'm going off topic and quitting this channel. Thx22:41
bpromptk22:42
Sbur3bprompt: But last question. That e-mail gets it to the cell phone and puts it in messages?22:42
Sbur3Whatever22:42
Sbur3bye22:43
bpromptSbur3:  yes22:43
Sbur3bprompt: thx22:43
AdictNetxchat or hexchat?23:32
dax!xchat23:32
ubottuxchat and xchat-gnome are old IRC clients which are not actively maintained outside of Ubuntu/Debian. Some versions of Ubuntu do not include them. Users of 14.04 onwards should strongly consider using hexchat instead, which has good upstream support and is widely recommended by the IRC community over xchat and xchat-gnome.23:32
dax(use hexchat)23:32
AdictNetthanks23:33
AdictNetbrb23:33
AdictNethi again23:42
AdictNeti cant uninstall xchat23:44
AdictNethttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6nSt3KbKxV/23:44

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