[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:15] <cooltex> hi guys!!
[15:17] <cooltex> did you know if i can use my ipad 3 with alternative os? ..... more of usual app are no more supported
[15:20] <altendky> i have a lenovo p1 gen 2 with intel 630 + nvidia T2000 max-q graphics and i'm having trouble getting consistent recognition of a display on the hdmi output.  i am trying with both a tv and a monitor.  any ideas how to get some useful info for debugging this?  the 'switch to external screen' bar pops up consistently when unplugging or plugging in a display but only occasionally is the display available.
[16:02] <user|39766> Can you recover an ubuntu machine with a kubuntu install disk?
[16:05] <altendky> user|39766: recover from what?
[16:05] <user|39766> On the login screen it kept saying 'authentication failed
[16:06] <user|39766> and wont let me type my password
[16:06] <user|39766> tried to reboot, but it spat some sort of mumbo jumbp.
[16:31] <altendky> i'm not really sure exactly what's different but my external display is now tending to work.  i did use the leave>reboot instead of `sudo reboot` so maybe it just needed that once or twice.  though i don't think it's 100% quite yet.  but tending to work is a good start
[17:08] <salsa4life> boot into single mode
[19:25] <Guest96810> bonsoir all
 @Crell, Same. In fact all 19.10 ubuntu family releases had erratic behaviour on my laptop. Sticking with 18.04 LTS as it runs smoothly.
[20:36] <mahavishvarupa> Hello, does Kubuntu have any of the Canonical data mining / ad malware installed by default?
[20:41] <bprompt> mahavishvarupa:  no that I'm aware of, however I'm on 16.04, not sure if 18.04 or 19.10 have added any, however you can just install them I take it from the repositories
[20:43] <mahavishvarupa> bprompt: the point is that I don't want that stuff on my machine.
[20:43] <bprompt> mahavishvarupa:  then I guess you're golden =)
[20:44] <mahavishvarupa> thanks bprompt
[20:45] <bprompt> kinda misread some, I understood some anti-malware... nope, but you meant, data mining as for data reporting or feedback.... that I'm aware of
[20:45] <bprompt> but as I said, I have 16.04, dunno if 18.x or 19.x versions have it
[20:46] <mahavishvarupa> Doesn't something in standard Ubuntu send data to Amazon?  I can't recally of the top of my head.
[20:46] <bprompt> not that I know of
[20:47] <bprompt> some installed apps do stuff like that like webbrowsers, but that's a third-party choice
[20:47] <mahavishvarupa> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html
[20:48] <dax> that page is extremely out of date
[20:48] <dax> there's still an amazon shortcut on Ubuntu (not Kubuntu)'s launcher, but it's literally just a web shortcut, it doesn't send any data that isn't normal web browsing data
[20:48] <dax> the whole unity amazon search thing's been dead for years
[20:49] <mahavishvarupa> OK good.  I ask as  I'm considering moving to Kubuntu.
[20:56] <mahavishvarupa> where do I get a minimal or netinstall iso for Kubuntu?
[20:57] <mahavishvarupa> Can't seem to find it anywhere, if it even exists.
[21:01] <bprompt> hmmmm
[21:03] <bprompt> mahavishvarupa:  I don't see one, not for Kubuntu
[21:04] <bprompt> on the other hand, the iso is just over 1Gb
[21:05] <mahavishvarupa> really Kubuntu's iso clocked in 2.4GB when I just looked now.  Any way I'm going to use the netinstall and just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:08] <bprompt> 2.4? maybe
[21:08] <bprompt> mahavishvarupa:  tis simpler to just get the .iso instead of installing kubuntu-desktop
[21:14] <mahavishvarupa> bprompt: I'm moving from Arch so doing stuff manually isn't an issue for me.
[21:26] <bprompt> mahavishvarupa:  well, chances are, there'll be very few apps from the iso that you won't need, and you remove those, but there are very few, I use Kubuntu, however I don't run Kwin, KDE's window manager, I run LXQT, much faster and flexible, however I do use quite a bit of the kde apps and QT apps
[21:27] <mahavishvarupa> bprompt: this whole thing is because my usb stick isn't big enough!!
[22:02] <fuze> is it possible to upgrade from 18.04 to 19.10 directly?
[22:03] <fuze> or is it best to go to 19.04 and then 19.10
[22:04] <bprompt> fuze:  since 18.04 is LTS and 19.10 isn't, sounds more like a downgrade :P
[22:05] <fuze> bprompt: Its just for personal use so i think it would be better. lots of bug fixes
[22:06] <fuze> software updater only find 19.04
[22:07] <bprompt> fuze:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/34430/can-i-skip-over-releases-when-upgrading    <---- a rather old article, but seems relevant
[22:08] <fuze> I guess its Disco Dingo time
[22:09] <bprompt> thought Disco was dead? maybe not, I better get my bellbottom pants out of the closet then
[22:13] <tomreyn> !disco
[22:13] <tomreyn> it's still party time
[22:37] <Intelo> Which settings in kubuntu hides the password chars visible to on login screen?  I want to hide so no one can even count how many chars of password I have?
[22:59] <genii> Intelo: There's no direct way to do this, but you can simulate this behaviour by editing it's configuration to make the text colour the same as the background of the text entry box
[23:00] <genii> ..this doesn't prevent someone from highlighting what's in the box however to see how long it is
[23:31] <Intelo> genii, ok. thx. which config?\
[23:33] <Intelo> genii, and also what about the very initial password that is used to decrypt hdd\
[23:44] <genii> Intelo: For default Breeze theme,/usr/share/sddm/themes/breeze/theme.conf file, the line reading color=#1d99f3 change to all white by color=#ffffff
[23:44] <genii> ..or not