| jibel | morning all | 05:47 |
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| marcustomlinson | morning jibel | 06:33 |
| jibel | Hi marcustomlinson | 06:35 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 07:11 |
| jibel | salut didrocks | 07:15 |
| didrocks | salut jibel, ça va ? | 07:22 |
| jibel | didrocks, ça va et toi? | 07:25 |
| didrocks | ça va :) | 07:25 |
| marcustomlinson | morning didrocks | 07:42 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 07:44 |
| didrocks | didn't feel too lonely yesterday? :) | 07:44 |
| marcustomlinson | Haha was quiet. I don’t mind it ;) | 07:45 |
| didrocks | ;) | 07:47 |
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| tkamppeter | I posted here about keyboard problems, I think last Wednesday, a Lenovo technician came and fixed it, is all OK now and not a Ubuntu (desktop) bug. | 09:14 |
| marcustomlinson | tkamppeter: good to know :) | 09:22 |
| dupondje | Are there plans to upgrade network-manager to 1.20.6 ? | 10:28 |
| dupondje | On Eoan | 10:28 |
| marcustomlinson | tkamppeter: ^? | 10:54 |
| tkamppeter | dupondje, no, there was no talk about this and also Eoan is not an LTS, so the work of such an high-impact change is not worthwile and the time until it is tested and regressions are fixed can be too long for the 9-month live time. | 11:26 |
| dupondje | tkamppeter: ok np :) Just wanted it to have it working fine with iwd 1.0. But I'll build my own then :) | 11:50 |
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| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 16:44 |
| marcustomlinson | something is up with the clipboard in ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1852183 | 16:45 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1852183 in mutter (Ubuntu) "copy/paste (clipboard) is broken in Ubuntu 19.10" [Undecided,New] | 16:45 |
| marcustomlinson | it's not a wayland thing, I see this on X | 16:47 |
| Trevinho | marcustomlinson: mh, weird, I can have a look though | 16:47 |
| Trevinho | marcustomlinson: have you seen if there's something gnome issues upstream? | 16:47 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks Trevinho, I've done a bunch of googling there was one bug somewhere about performance but not this | 16:48 |
| Trevinho | marcustomlinson: is there an easy reproducer? | 16:48 |
| marcustomlinson | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/824 | 16:48 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 824 in mutter "Clipboard issue with virt-manager/spice-gtk" [Opened] | 16:48 |
| Trevinho | as reading the bug I dind't encounter a clear way | 16:49 |
| marcustomlinson | Trevinho: if you watch my screencasts you'll see it's pretty easy to produce | 16:49 |
| marcustomlinson | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1852183/comments/2 | 16:49 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1852183 in mutter (Ubuntu) "copy/paste (clipboard) is broken in Ubuntu 19.10" [Undecided,New] | 16:49 |
| Trevinho | carlos mentioned a change in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/824 that is just wayland only though | 16:50 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 824 in mutter "Clipboard issue with virt-manager/spice-gtk" [Opened] | 16:50 |
| marcustomlinson | right, but that bug doesn't really sound related | 16:50 |
| Trevinho | in arch they say it just works when disabling the clipboard manager, so indeed related (see https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/63881#comment182271) | 16:51 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, you should report it on gitlab, the clipboard management was moved out of gnome-settings-daemon this cycle so it's possible the new implementation has issues | 17:14 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: though it looks like we’re on the same version of mutter as Debian (unstable) and it’s not broken there | 17:18 |
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| Smaug | hey all -- I'm on 16.04. a python pip package I want to install requires CMake 3.6, while 16.04 only has 3.5. So I am considering purging cmake and building it from source (either 3.6 or a more recent version). What I want to know is, could having a later version of cmake cause problems with installing other programs in the future that except no later than 3.5? | 17:28 |
| Smaug | *expect | 17:29 |
| davidkrauser | Smaug: if you're worried about that, you can install CMake somewhere outside the system PATH (like $HOME/.local/bin for example) | 17:31 |
| ogra | Smaug, sudo snap install cmake --classic | 17:45 |
| ogra | (brings you 3.15.x ...) | 17:46 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, you are sure it's not broken there? also Debian defaults to wayland | 17:50 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: if you see my Debian sceencast in the last comment, can't reproduce the issue | 17:54 |
| marcustomlinson | regardless of whether I'm on wayland or x11 (I didn't make that clear) | 17:55 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: oh damn, wait you're right | 17:55 |
| marcustomlinson | I didn't switch to X properly... | 17:55 |
| marcustomlinson | The same issue can be seen on X in Debian, sorry, I will report this upstream | 17:56 |
| seb128 | thx | 17:57 |
| marcustomlinson | thank you | 17:59 |
| Smaug | davidkrauser: ogra: thanks for the suggestions will look into! :) | 18:14 |
| Smaug | davidkrauser: but another question I have is -- *should* i be worried about it? | 18:14 |
| Smaug | i don't know enough about package installation to say | 18:14 |
| Smaug | assuming that in general I am using apt-get for things | 18:15 |
| marcustomlinson | alright, I'm out. Have good evening everyone | 18:21 |
| davidkrauser | Smaug: that's a hard question to answer. Really just brings to mind more questions: what changed between CMake 3.5 and 3.6? Were any of those breaking changes? Were there any bugs introduced in 3.6 that weren't in 3.5? | 18:24 |
| davidkrauser | We can also ask ourselves questions like: What will go wrong if there is an incompatibility with 3.6 and some other package? And how can we fix it? | 18:24 |
| davidkrauser | These sorts of questions are asked whenever a package is updated in an Ubuntu stable release: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 18:24 |
| Smaug | davidkrauser: thanks | 18:25 |
| davidkrauser | Smaug, I think in your case, you may be fine. But every setup is different, and I haven't looked at all into what changed | 18:25 |
| Smaug | i appreciate it! | 18:25 |
| davidkrauser | but worst case scenario, you can always remove the new version of CMake and go back to the old | 18:25 |
| Smaug | ogra: how do I make ubuntu use the snap installed cmake? doing `cmake --version` on command line after installation shows old snap. specifically, how would I make a pip-installer use it? | 18:32 |
| davidkrauser | Smaug is this the first snap you've installed? | 18:34 |
| davidkrauser | may need to log out/log in if so | 18:35 |
| Smaug | on this computer? not sure | 18:35 |
| Smaug | seems so | 18:35 |
| Smaug | really? | 18:35 |
| JanC | marcustomlinson: does it happen with all types of text or only with special text like e.g. file paths & URLs & such? | 18:36 |
| davidkrauser | Smaug: actually, do you still have the old cmake installed? If you look at `echo $PATH` you'll see that `/snap/bin` is at the end of the list. If the `cmake` command shows up earlier in a folder in that list, it will use that version | 18:43 |
| davidkrauser | Smaug: you can temporarily get around that in your terminal by setting your PATH to something like `export PATH=/snap/bin:$PATH`. Then if you run `cmake --version` you should see the right version | 18:45 |
| Smaug | ah thank you! | 18:45 |
| Smaug | that is perfect | 18:45 |
| Smaug | so now I can have both cmakes but use the appropriate version by changing PATH | 18:46 |
| marcustomlinson | JanC: see my screencasts on the Ubuntu bug. Was just plain text | 18:56 |
| marcustomlinson | Easy to reproduce | 18:57 |
| Trevinho | marcustomlinson: mh, not sure I can't reproduce it... -_- | 19:37 |
| Trevinho | just copy and paste a cell works fine here | 19:37 |
| Trevinho | using the archive version though | 19:37 |
| Laney | this is the clipboard bug that I was aware of, happens if you're running VMs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1755038 | 19:42 |
| ubot5 | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1755038 in spice-vdagent "VM clipboard integration wipes clipboard contents randomly and frequently (X11 host)" [Unspecified,Assigned] | 19:42 |
| marcustomlinson | Trevinho, just reproduced it on native Eoan, no vm | 20:54 |
| marcustomlinson | Just keep copy and pasting over and over | 20:55 |
| marcustomlinson | It can happen on the 3rd time, it can happen on the 30th time. | 21:02 |
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