[00:13] My installation of Ubuntu 19.10 won't boot; it's indefinitely stuck on the loading screen before login. My Windows partition boots just fine. This is my dmesg https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2hcXP2QYBm/ Any tips? [00:15] i keep getting an error about being temporarily unable to lookup archive.ubuntu.com on a preseed installation [00:36] Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz (798MHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (6.6 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 25.2 GB / 321.0 GB (295.8 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller • Uptime: 8m 44s [00:42] AdictNet, https://snapcraft.io/install/hexchat/ubuntu (hexchat 2.14.2) [00:43] the one out of the ubuntu repositories is fine, it gets security backports and such [00:44] same package, just a different number due to patches indeed https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/hexchat [00:45] sorry i posted ... [00:45] np, it was not a bad advise, backported patches and nis cofusing [00:46] i just wish freebsd supported my wifi card [00:46] c/ backported patches and numbering is confusing [00:47] not any linux version has support for the realtek 8821ce driver as of yet. it works but always d/c's on my lappy [00:47] realtek beeing stingy, wont give linux support until 2020ish [00:48] being* [00:50] whole page about that 8821ce card .. https://askubuntu.com/a/1067788 [00:51] yea thats what i used, but it keeps dcing on my lappy. not to worried about it. my server strill runs fine [00:51] just disable secureboot, if exists on that machine [00:51] it is lol and using legacy bios === Wryhder is now known as Lucas_Gray === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 === antonyb is now known as Antonyb [02:17] my default ubuntu .bashrc resolves PS1 to the actual directory that I cd. Now, I would like to PS1 to show me the symlink path instead of the actual path. Do you think it can be done? [02:17] Bash.org Getting a random quote from bash.org, Please wait.. [02:17] Bash.org Socket in use, Please wait.. [02:17] Bash.org - #408 Quote: Heh ya moms got one tooth in her mouth and she snaps holes into doughnuts for a living.... [02:18] IkoIKo: we don't allow talking scripts in #ubuntu, so please turn that one off. thanks! [02:23] Why would we want a small swap relative to the RAM? (In fact, a swap that is much smaller than RAM) [02:23] That doesn't allow hibernation be default. [02:31] k_sze, correct, and ubuntu gives a swapfile standard. [02:32] not all machines with mostly wireless adapters do have issues comming out of sleep, not to mention uefi [02:32] oh [02:33] so that's why we forget about hibernation and just go with deep sleep? [02:34] some fixes that by unloading the wifi module prior to hybernat [02:34] still a lot of work to do [02:34] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2392205 [02:35] ouch === zbenjamin is now known as Guest88289 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:45] I wonder why UEFI doesn't implement hibernate... [02:45] UEFI has nothing to do with hibernate [02:45] but it could [02:46] JanC, For discussion or chat like this, please bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic [02:47] more like some developer channel really ;) [02:48] can someone help me with mysql? https://hastebin.com/kewovamoze.rb [02:50] JanC: I think the problem with that approach is that UEFI would need to be OS-aware, and maintain separate hibernation spaces for each OS on the computer, in the case of multi-boot. [02:50] LanDi, Thsi channel only supports Ubuntu... for your platform, please seek support through their official channels [02:51] k_sze: not really, as it would only need to revive the OS that was running before it hibernated [02:51] If I try using ubuntu-bug on 19.10 to report a bug on X, it hangs forever on "collecting problem information". [02:52] Is there another way to report a bug? Should I see if it'll let me report an "other" type on ubuntu-bug itself? [02:52] (for "forever" read "I waited about 5 minutes then gave up") [02:53] !bug | akk [02:53] akk: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [02:53] akk: interestingly, I've seen the same complaint from someone else [02:53] JanC, if I boot Ubuntu and then hibernate, and then boot Windows and then hibernate, I want to be able to resume Ubuntu. That's why any hibernation implementation in UEFI would need to be OS-aware and maintain separate hibernation spaces. [02:54] k_sze: the point is that it would always restart the hibernated OS, so you wouldn't be able to boot anything else... [02:55] akk: the "Filing bugs manually at Launchpad.net" section of the ReportingBugs page ubottu mentioned above has an escape hatch to get around having to use ubuntu-bug [02:55] JanC, I wouldn't want an implementation like that. :D [02:55] akk: downside is you'll need to figure out the right package and will probably get asked for ubuntu-bug output anyway, so might be worth poking at it a bit first [02:56] k_sze, JanC - Please take the systems archetecture discussion to another place [02:56] That's fine, I was going to report against xorg, and I can attach whatever info anyone asks for (in the unlikely event anyone actually reads the bug and requests more info). [02:57] akk: *nod* [02:57] Please suggest which is the one I shall pick amongst EXT4 and BTRFS for a new drive to be used primary for backups [02:57] thanks [02:57] there seems to be bug in how apport collects info to report... [02:57] Mr_Cyclops: i go with ext4 unless there's a specific reason not to. [02:57] I have the xorg logs from two times this has happened -- coming out of suspend, screen stays dark, and if I try to ctrl-alt-Fanything, "EnterVT failed for screen 0" and X crashes. [03:04] is lspci -vvn a reasonable thing to run to report my hardware for X bugs? I found an old bug where they requested that. [03:09] dax, got it ... thank you [03:14] woo, it eventually woke up and is trying to report, though firefox complains about an XSS request [03:19] !chrome [03:21] NetAdicto: is there something we can help you with? [03:22] chrome or mozilla? [03:24] NetAdicto: If you're interested in opinions of what people prefer, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic. Ubuntu by default comes packaged with Firefox which is open source. Google's Chrome browser is closed source and only available directly through Google's website (Chrome is also not supported in this channel.) As an alternative, you can install chromium, which is available in the software center. [03:25] oh ok thanks [03:29] This Dell Inspiron 14 5000 laptop has a weird built-in 32 GB NVMe of some kind (in addition to the removable M.2 SSD) and it's just a PITA to properly setup dual boot with Windows 10 and Ubuntu. [04:11] so uh, what's the latest on nvidia drivers for ubuntu? [04:16] !nvidia | Gallomimia [04:16] Gallomimia: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [04:17] actually the article i'm reading now shows PPAs are not needed in 19.10 ? [04:17] i have yet to attempt an update [04:18] Gallomimia: lets find out, wich card do you have with wich driver? [04:18] i have a 780Ti with 430.50 [04:18] on 19.04 [04:19] Gallomimia: there are later drivers then 430, but maybe for your card 430 would fit best? [04:19] kinda hoping that 440 comes out soon. the patch notes there show some regressions in 435 [04:19] and possibly some fixes for the vulkan game i'm running in proton [04:19] (space engineers, FYI) [04:19] Gallomimia: 440 is on the graphics ppa [04:20] oh? i just tried installing nvidia-440 and didn't get anything [04:21] it's nvidia-driver-440 ? [04:21] okay... this could be good! [04:21] sudo ubuntu-drivers list #gives you your options [04:22] i would go wild with: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall [04:22] seems i goobered my /boot and my /boot/efi partitions. put one in the space for the other. can't even install 2 different kernels [04:22] so i got some fixin' to do first [04:23] start fresh, GPT [04:23] nah there's a 4 tb raid living on the drive [04:25] Gallomimia: Nvidia recommends the 440 version driver: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/153226/en-us . [04:26] i quite like what i see in the patch notes yes [04:26] i might have some very careful dd'ing to do first [04:27] the aforementioned boot and efi partitions are the only part of my system no encrypted [04:51] alternative to adobe audition? [06:17] Testing... [06:22] I am having volume troubles. [06:50] Using the command `hxselect` to get an HTML tag, what is the best way to get the second html tag (there are two with the same name, I want the one thats the second search, but somehow it only returns the first one always). Also not really sure which channel to ask for this. === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [07:31] Hello evryone !Is there an easy way to connect to a windows domain (Active Directory)? [07:35] afx_, yes, the wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html or tons of howtos >> http://www.securityflux.com/?p=262 >> https://angrysysadmins.tech/index.php/2018/11/bailey/add-ubuntu-windows-domain/ [07:38] oerheks, thank you ! was looking more of a GUI application where it asks me the username password and the domain to join :D [08:03] Hello! Not sure if this is the right place about docker questions. I have a container that I would like to run, which is ubuntu. I would like to have a directory from my local system accessible from the container. How do I go about? [08:04] (I don't want to copy it, but somewhat link it such that the changes made from within the container reflects where the directory is present locally) [08:07] docker run -v "$PWD/thedir:/data" -it ubuntu [08:07] it's probably not the right place for docker questions, but docker run -v /directory/in/host:/dir/in/container ... [08:08] note that it must be an absolute path [08:12] To find more about that is to search "bind mount" from docker documentation. [08:38] afx_: beyond trust has a GUI utility for joining but it's no longer supported on current ubuntu distros === fling is now known as infernorion === infernorion is now known as fling [08:58] Hello, apt-get update works perfectly fine within my new docker image. However, apt-get install cannot locate the respective packages. I guess i'm missing some link on where to install packages from, but how do I fix this ? [08:59] ramsub07: did you apt(-get) update beforehand? [08:59] ramsub07: it might be you need to add a different repository, which package are you trying to install? [09:05] How do I export the webpage with `lynx -dump`, but without parsing the urls? [09:06] modify the lynx source code accordingly and rebuild it. [09:22] not really a suitable solution since that would mean i have to provide and keep updating the software on every system [09:30] tomreyn: yes apparently apt-get update fixed it. Don't understand why, maybe it sets the headers appropriately ? (sorry about the late response) [09:31] ramsub07: docker images tend to come with an empty /var/cache/apt/lists/ for two reasons (smaller size, it'd be outdated anyway), so apt-get fails to find anything until you run an apt-get update [09:32] it's a bit annoying that apt-get doesn't run apt-get update automatically in this situation (unlike, say, yum/dnf) [09:32] mgedmin: ah, alright [09:33] mgedmin: i am running a container, whose image has been pulled from docker hub. However, I would like to make some custom changes to the docker file, (like adding a few lines of pip install ) How do I go about? [09:34] In otherwords something like commands to be executed at the startup of the container [09:35] hi my usb is not shown in fdisk -l [09:41] enriooooooo: does it show in journalctl -f / dmesg -w though, when you plug it in? [09:41] and is an sd* device name assigned to it? [09:41] Someone writes on askubuntu.com that he has booted Ubuntu without and cpu drivers. - https://askubuntu.com/questions/844680/disable-hyperthreading-p-state-and-c-state-drivers-and-cpu-frequency-scaling [09:44] ramsub07: unless you're using the images provided by canonical (and possibly even then) we don't really do support for ubuntu 'based' docker containers here, since they are almost always customized making them derivatives, which are sufficiently different that it's no longer possible to support them. [09:44] pressure679: did oyu have a support question there? [10:00] tomreyn: any other channels where I could ask these questions at ? [10:01] ramsub07: the support channels provided by the entity providing these docker images, i'd say. [10:05] or, would it be possible that I clone a Dockerfile, edit it myself adding required instructions and build an image myself ? [10:05] ( I am new to docker and maybe this is not the relevant place to ask these questions, apologies for that) [10:06] ramsub07, yes, that is possible, and #docker would be a good place to get help with that [10:07] Habbie: thanks [10:12] how can I free space on sda1? [10:13] have moved some stuff from home to other partition but sda1 is 100% used [10:15] autoclean and clean get me to 98% [10:15] how can I find out what don't have to be there and can be moved? [10:17] is it 20GB enough space for /sda1 ? [10:19] running update && upgrade will push to 99% again [10:19] lenny_lemon: sudo du -haxd1 . | sort -h is a nice way to see which directories/files in the current directory use the most space [10:20] lenny_lemon: ncdu is a nice tool for seeing what takes up most disk space (or baobab if you prefer GUI) [10:20] hi. I have a problem with the connectivity of my mouse. Full description here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2429346 [10:21] hello, i've two GCC running. the command gcc links to gcc 5.4. However, I installed gcc 7 by apt-get install gcc-7. This means, I could run gcc-7 only by executing `gcc-7` and not `gcc`. how can i fix it? I tried update-alternatives --config gcc and it gives me an errror, `update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for gcc` [10:23] it takes some time isn't it geirha ? [10:24] have run that command [10:24] yes, it has to recurse through the entire filesystem and print out all the results before the sort can sort it [10:24] so you won't get any output until it's done [10:26] subsequent runs should be faster though as it can use cache [10:27] geirha, I got output... [10:27] but what exactly is sda1? [10:27] ncdu has a progress bar [10:27] because I can see with df -h that has 18G of 20G used... and downloads has 18G on its own [10:28] a device node in /dev/ representing the first partition of the "first" disk [10:28] df should tell you where /dev/sda1 is mounted (I'm going to guess /) [10:28] cd into downloads and run it again then === beaver is now known as heidie [10:31] mgedmin, I tried to install it but had lock /var... I tried sudo killall apt apt-get but update result in UEFI secure boot configuration... [10:32] geirha, is it Downloads part of sda1? [10:33] lenny_lemon: I have no idea what you use sda1 for. You haven't told us. === enriooooooo is now known as enrio [10:34] geirha, how can I find out? [10:34] df [10:35] there's a column for device that will show /dev/sda1, and there's a column for mountpoint that will show what it's used for === heidie is now known as heidy [10:37] mgedmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mvxykKqNp6/ [10:38] sda1 is used for / [10:39] what does it mean? [10:40] all of the system files are stored on that partition [10:40] I see /home is on a separate partition [10:40] so is kind of "system" partition right? [10:41] so how can I decide what is safe to move from sda1? [10:41] yes === SIa_ is now known as SIa [10:43] is 20G enough space for sda1 as / ? [10:45] Hi all i am wanting to find the ppa for libarchive so i can install 3.4.0 [10:45] is this available [10:46] Hi. Why don't mandatory write locks work [10:46] I have remounted the filesystems with -o mand [10:46] but I still can write into a locked file [10:47] why do you need it? why not use advisory locks? [10:48] geirha: I wanna protect some files from unauthorized malicious modification [10:48] geirha: I mean som temporary files [10:48] *some [10:48] KOLANICH: why not just use unix file permissions? [10:48] tarzeau: can I be sure that no malware is run from the same user? [10:50] KOLANICH: do you trust the user? [10:52] tarzeau: yes and no. yes because the user is software run in a docker container. no because there are too much software installed into it, I cannot check it all. [10:53] tarzeau: the container built from a dockerfile provided by me. [10:54] make a backup of your data, then give it to your user...? [10:59] tarzeau: no. race condition can be exploited. I use gpgme to add a public key into a gpg keyring file. I create a temp dir. I init gpgme context. Then I lock all the files in that dir created by gpgme. Then I make sure that the keyring is empty. Then I import the keys from an old and new gpg files there. Then I sha256 that keyring. Then I print the sum on a screen assumming stdout is untampered. Then I can unlock the file and be sure that if anytâ [10:59] …hing added there a key it would be detected. [10:59] sorry can't help, consult a doctor against your fear of paranoia. disconnect it from the internet before running, maybe that helps? [11:00] s,of,and, [11:01] HI Guys.. I'm running xubuntu 18.04.3 which is fully up-to-date & following this tutorial for installing and setting up kvm >> https://linuxconfig.org/install-and-set-up-kvm-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux [11:01] I edit /etc/network/interfaces adding in my ethernet details, but whenever I reboot my system ethernet no longer works and I only have access to wifi. [11:01] tarzeau: this won't help. Probably I shouldn't have used docker images from dockerhub. [11:02] If I go back and edit /etc/network/interfaces changing my ethernet to anything (eth0 etc) other than my actual ethernet and then reboot again my ethernet works as normal again. [11:02] Could someone please help me as I'm confused and don't know what to do. Thanks... [11:02] why we give uuid on /etc/fstab to auto mount drives? [11:02] cant we specify device files? like /dev/sda2 to mount? [11:02] but that didnt work [11:03] enrio: uuid don't change when you connect it to another bus/port/plug [11:03] enrio: device names, do change [11:03] enrio: using device names (if it's the right) one does work [11:04] didnt work for me [11:04] only uuid works [11:04] then you must have done something wrong [11:04] Exactly, uuids are unique and are the better option (until you format that drive) [11:04] you remove UUID=abcd and insert /dev/sda2 there? [11:04] Here is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces >> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bSv7WbzDXh/ [11:05] badv991: i wouldn't weight it by better, but just different [11:05] mgedmin, geirha is 20G enough space for / ? [11:06] lenny_lemon: should be fine, depends on how many packages (and how large ones) you plan to install [11:06] Fair enough, only really an issue if you move around the physical drives a lot for whatever reason [11:07] i've got my / filled up with 35 GB of software, and an additional of 60 GB in /opt [11:08] Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu server LTS on a nvme drive, but it fails and I don't know what else to try. Installer starts file (uefi), I set up keyboard, network, username. On 18.04 It fails in the step of probing install devices with "error probing devices", not much info. On 19.10 it let's me select the drive and partition (tried manual and automatic) I get "curtin command install... [11:08] configuring-disk disk-nvme0n1" and then it fails [11:08] tarzeau, 99% used... I think might be steam that consume a lots of space... wawww, so would you recommend to expand it? [11:08] lenny_lemon: can you run ncdu -x / ? [11:09] lenny_lemon: if you have the chance to, yes [11:09] if you have /boot in there, try create this file /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/compress with this content COMPRESS=xz [11:10] remove older kernels, popcon-largest-unused might be helpful remove pkgs you don't need [11:10] lenny_lemon: normally I'd say 20G should be sufficient, but you managed to fill it up to 99% somehow [11:10] if you use btrfs, turn on compression [11:10] mgedmin, I guess is steam [11:10] tarzeau, yes, have run it [11:10] steam should keep the downloaded files in /home/$USER/, which is on a separate partition [11:11] lenny_lemon: don't guess, check with ncdu/baobab/duc/$tool_of_choice [11:12] (of course if you can't install tools because apt fails due to disk space issues, that's another thing) [11:12] mgedmin, i can install [11:12] at least I have installed ncdu [11:12] excellent, so what does it show as the largest directories in /? [11:13] I would recommend ncdu -x / [11:13] because you don't want it wasting time crawling /home, which is on another partition [11:13] 5.7G usr and 1.9G var [11:13] mgedmin: that's what i already suggested [11:14] should I be asking in #ubuntu-server instead? [11:14] thart's 8G out of 20, what takes up the other 12G? [11:14] tarzeau, I have run it with pastebinit for you to see but its taking ages [11:14] im0nde: i remember we had similar problems [11:14] tarzeau: I'm uploading a screenshot with the full log [11:14] im0nde: depends on bios and settings. i don't remember what we did to get it fixed [11:14] gimme a minute [11:15] (can only take fotos) [11:15] lib and boot has 1G combine... rest is just MB... [11:15] and not much [11:16] tarzeau: This is the full error https://imgur.com/a/ijNDCDM [11:16] tarzeau: i have set boot to "UEFI only" [11:17] mgedmin, don't understand... it shows 8.6G used but df shows sda1 with 20G space and 99% used... [11:18] mgedmin, that's nearly 60% somewhere or of something... [11:20] could be large deleted files that are still kept open by some program? [11:21] if so, the space will be freed as soon as that program exits [11:21] even after restart? [11:21] (if you don't know which program it is, a reboot is the fastest way of testing this theory) [11:21] if a reboot doesn't fix this, then, hmm [11:21] I just have restarted [11:21] maybe ncdu couldn't index some subdirectories if you didn't run it as root? [11:24] mgedmin, running with sudo bottom line shows 17G used [11:25] mgedmin, but listing is the same [11:42] im0nde: looks like some python problem that doesn't find stuff [11:47] Mouse starts freezing randomly. Full description here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2429346 [11:51] Hello [11:52] The package-management in ubuntu works on a global namespace. That means that all programms that have been and will eventually be written, must never have the same name (if my understanding is correct) [11:52] For me this sounds not ... very good. [11:52] Has there never been any problem with this style? [11:54] yes -- node was taken by some hobbyist ham radio stuff and nodejs couldn't use it for a long time [11:54] also chromium was a game before it was a browser [11:55] when the programs are interchangeable (like different implementations of ctags), there's the alternatives mechanism to manage them [12:10] Hiyas all [12:11] mgedmin, thank you for the references. I will check up on the "alternatives mechanism" [12:13] DarkTrick: it's inherited from Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives [12:13] BluesKaj: Hello [12:15] hi marcoagpinto [12:18] mgedmin, thank you for the link! Feeling like up-to-date now. [12:19] So question: If there is this problem, why would Ubuntu keep this management style? [12:21] My first idea would be something like windows (every program has it's own directory) and then maybe create symlinks to them, to access them easier [12:21] Is there kind of like *the* reason, why ubuntu (a) choose that style (b) keeps it ? [12:34] Hello there [12:37] welcome gurdamzn [12:37] DarkTrick: I think this is a topic more suited for #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic; this channel is primarily for getting help with technical problems [12:46] HI Guys.. I'm running xubuntu 18.04.3 which is fully up-to-date & following this tutorial for installing and setting up kvm >> https://linuxconfig.org/install-and-set-up-kvm-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux [12:46] I edit /etc/network/interfaces adding in my ethernet details, but whenever I reboot my system ethernet no longer works and I only have access to wifi. If I go back and edit /etc/network/interfaces changing my ethernet to anything (eth0 etc) other than my actual ethernet and then reboot again my ethernet works as normal again. [12:46] Here is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces >> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bSv7WbzDXh/ [12:46] Could someone please help me as I'm confused and don't know what to do. Thanks... [12:53] furycd001, you can easy read the comments down the page [12:53] ?? [12:53] furycd001, for some reason he thinks that the 18.04 system is set up for /e/n/i (and it's not) [12:54] ahhh right ok gotcha [12:54] furycd001, scroll down the page you posted [12:54] Looking now.... [12:55] furycd001, check this : https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-configure-kvm-ubuntu-18-04-server/ [12:55] Thanks :) Looking at the link now.... === jelly is now known as xj9 === xj9 is now known as jelly === Jonopoly is now known as Jonopoly1 === Jonopoly1 is now known as Jonopoly [13:18] would anyone know how to disable the 'Show Password' option in the Network Manager WiFi Security settings dialog? [13:20] zetheroo: an ssid with a password, will ask a password? [13:20] lotuspsychje: wait, I'll make a screenshot of what I mean ... [13:21] my second monitor suddenly isnt detected, no signal it says [13:21] zetheroo: make sure to obscure any sensitive information, especially your network password [13:21] Ubuntu 19.04 [13:21] ericus: Have you tried the monitor on another computer. Have you made sure the cables haven't come loose? [13:21] pragmaticenigma it works in Windows [13:22] ericus: What have you done so far to troubleshoot? [13:22] lotuspsychje: https://ibb.co/Y7HryYy [13:23] pragmaticenigma: 👍 [13:23] zetheroo: thats a baked in feature in ubuntu, why would you want to get rid of that? [13:24] pragmaticenigma basically not much [13:24] zetheroo: To my knowledge, that checkbox isn't "sticky" which means it resets when the dialog box closes, it should uncheck itself. [13:25] lotuspsychje: we don't want users seeing the cert password [13:25] I cant drop to a terminal (ctrl alt f3), my main screen goes blank. DIsplay settings only shows one monitor [13:25] pragmaticenigma: yeah, but we don't want users having the possibility of ticking it in the first place [13:26] Shouldn't the private key be specific to the user though? Isn't that the point? (I'm entirely unfamiliar with enterprise WPA, but private keys in general are meant to be private to the user using them) [13:26] any1 knows how to run snap inside lxc? Im getting an error saying that apparmor does not allow for snap to work inside the container [13:27] zetheroo: do you set users on the same machine of the admin? [13:27] Voziv: we don't want the users having the password because then they can install the cert on another device. Only hardware owned and managed by the company IT are allowed access to the wifi network (we have an additional guest wifi network with only Internet access which all hardware can connect to) [13:27] zetheroo: Are you sure that if you close the window... re-open it, and check the box the password is revealed? [13:28] lotuspsychje: sorry I don't understand your question ... [13:28] pragmaticenigma: yes [13:28] ok I found this https://askubuntu.com/questions/744088/how-to-disable-show-password [13:28] maybe something to this approach [13:29] zetheroo: that looks pretty much like what you are looking for [13:30] hmm ... that's too aggressive. Users should be able to manage network connections ... just not this 'show password' option [13:30] zetheroo: are you setting up computers with ubuntu for your users only, or are they shared machines, with both admin and users? [13:30] actually, maybe there is a way to make this wifi connection read-only to them [13:30] Assuming these are wireless devices, couldn't a user just get root and get access to the password anyways (If someone really wanted to install the cert elsewhere) [13:31] lotuspsychje: they aren't shared PCs. They are single-user PCs. [13:32] zetheroo: but is the user the admin, or did you create a new user extra account with permissions? [13:32] Voziv: you may have a point. I may need to also block users from 'su root' or whatever [13:32] lotuspsychje: the user accounts are Active Directory accounts ... authentication via PBIS ... [13:32] I'm having trouble with gcc, and it's a simple program! [13:33] lotuspsychje: users are members of the 'sudoers' group [13:34] RadSurfer_: You might find better help with #gcc [13:34] but I only have this problem in Ubuntu... [13:35] It's claiming it can't find math library apparently [13:35] -lm is given, why should there be an issue? [13:36] zetheroo: It should be pretty easy to get root access with a usb key. Not sure how disk encryption would affect that so maybe there's a solution there. Just noting in case this is critical for security vs "less work manging unauthorized wireless clients" type of thing [13:36] RadSurfer_: do you have it in the right place... after the primary source file being compiled? [13:37] Yes. [13:37] RadSurfer_: Then I would encourage you to head over to #gcc ... they're going to be more familiar with what might be happening [13:40] RadSurfer_, the full command you use ? [13:42] only error is it can't resolve math functions :: gcc main.c -o main -lm -L/home/.../UbProjs -lmylib # its really libmylib.a [13:42] and yes, I have actual full path when I run that. [13:43] RadSurfer_, gcc -o main main.c -L/home/.../UbProjs -lmylib -lm [13:44] gosh darn it! That works; but under MSYS32 on windows, its only works if -lm is first! sheesh! [13:44] ok [13:44] Now we know! [13:46] so, MSYS behavior and actual gcc are distinctively different afterall [13:59] Is there any particular reason why nginx on 18.04 does not use systemd for logging? The default config still writes to files. [14:03] thnee: Might be a better question to ask in #ubuntu-dev or to ask of the nginx developers. I'm guessing that the application developers have to include libraries that would enable such a feature. [14:05] pragmaticenigma: Not really.. you just log to stdout and stderr === Ozi is now known as Ozti [14:12] Looks like the nginx docker image symlinks the standard log file paths to /dev/stdout and /dev/stderr, that's pretty clever, I guess I might do the same https://github.com/nginxinc/docker-nginx/blob/fe97d699daae7e04f916771ac520f7cf25ab2b27/mainline/buster/Dockerfile#L95 [14:18] Any admins of UbuntuMembers online? [14:20] Bodsda: can this help you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [14:20] lotuspsychje: need someone who can readmit a donut who missed the expiration emails [14:23] Bodsda: At the bottom of the page lotuspsychje pointed out is an e-mail for conacting them. Sounds like the best option. While they "UbuntuMembers" individuals may be present here, discussion on memberships would be offtopic for this channel. === Dreadnaught is now known as Kulrak [14:33] Hi. I would like to know how to install additional modules for KDE systemsettings for ubuntu 18.04 with Gnome. I am trying to configure the mouse scroll speed in Dolphin, but mouse settings are not there === fotato is now known as thotato [14:47] woenx: I don't think you can get the settings module independent of the full KDE desktop [14:49] pragmaticenigma: oh :( [14:50] what a pity [14:52] hi people! i have a window shared folder with anonymous access, but i no longer see on nautilis the option "anonymous login" so keeps asking me user and pass :( do you have any idea? [14:56] Not able to install ubuntu on thinkpad E490 laptop , also took help on ubuntu forums, but getting stucked at installation step, windows start after installation of ubuntu, not able to see grub bootloader l https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2430396 [14:56] poor_user: Is the shared folder hosted on a windows machine? [14:57] yes, i can access it from an android phone [14:58] poor_user: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4046019/guest-access-in-smb2-disabled-by-default-in-windows-10-and-windows-ser [15:00] i perfecly understand security reasons [15:01] poor_user: The samba version 1 (cifs) protocol allowed for anonymous access... smb2 and later no longer allow access, unless you change the configuraiton files for samba clients in Ubuntu, they cannot access windows shares less than smb2 [15:01] but i can access that folder from any pc on the net, even android phone, there was an anonymnous login too on ubuntu right [15:01] ? [15:02] oh tnk [15:05] i have 16.04, i found a bug that is associated with fontconfig and chrome which shoots cpu usage to 100% , during trying out solutions which are available on internet , i installed fontconfig2.13 which can be only installed on 18.04 and above versions. now my package system is broken . how to revert back [15:05] jackhum: How did you install it? [15:06] probably the 18.04 deb package === Condor is now known as Guest1108 [15:06] skr: best not to assume [15:06] pragmaticenigma, i installed it by downloading its deb from somewhere and then sudo dpkg -i fontconfig2.13*.deb [15:07] haha === Condor_ is now known as Condor [15:07] i am on 16.04 , and this package was not available in my updates , so i installed it manually [15:07] dpkg --purge fontconfig2.13*deb; apt install fontconfig [15:07] now when i am trying to uninstall it , it is uninstalling more packages which are about 1.04 GB ., and i dunno if this packages is trying to uninstall itself and all other softwares which are using it [15:08] now when i am trying to uninstall it , it is uninstalling more packages which are about 1.04 GB ., and i dunno if this packages is trying to uninstall itself and all other softwares which are using it [15:08] skr, you mean , i will have to use that deb file too? [15:08] yes [15:09] never use a package from another ubuntu version [15:11] pragmaticenigma, skr , i did , dpkg --purge fontconfig2.13.deb , and now when i am doing apt-get install fontconfig . i am getting this long list of packages and some unmet dependencies error [15:11] do you know any way to allow ubuntu to access this public folder? i cannot see any option on /etc/samba/smb.conf [15:11] skr, true, i am too foolish to do that, wont repeat that again [15:11] skr, but i was facing this bug of cpu usage and everyone is saying fontconfig is to be blamed [15:12] maybe "Map to Guest = Bad User" [15:12] skr, i am getting unmet dependencies error , when i am trying to install fontconfig [15:13] paste to pastebin.com === Videonauth_ is now known as Videonauth [15:13] poor_user: that is a samba server setting, not a client [15:13] k [15:14] jackhum, out of curiosity, now that fontconfig is gone, how is cpu usage? [15:15] We have around 1k stations running 16.04 and I've not seen any issues related to fontconfig [15:18] skr, I agree with you, but wanted to know if the cpu usage actually reduced as a result of removing fontconfig [15:18] skr: I have seen fontconfig issues come up when too many font libraries have been installed to the system. DOn't recall the exact number off the top of my head, but it was more than any one user would use or encounter in their lifetime [15:19] interesting , wonder what safe limit is before issues! [15:19] executing smbclient -L IPofTarget it shows all folders :( [15:20] skr, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SFKN2TTd9c/plain/ [15:21] pragmaticenigma, idk, this bug has been eating my cpu usage alive , its some firefox + electron related bug , i cant use vscode because of this [15:21] poor_user: I have since moved to password protecting all my Samba/Windows file shares. For those that I want easy access to, I setup entries in fstab to mount the file share with the credentials saved locally. [15:22] i did it manually and looks to work [15:23] user Anonymous pass xxxx [15:23]